Words simply can't express how happy I am to see this list finally
discussing some hardcore honky-tonk. Now, if only I could steer the
discussion on the 661 list -- that's Bakersfield, y'all -- around to the new
Kirk Degiorgio Soul of Science mix!
Shake definitely played it at Movement -- about halfway through his set,
just before he went into Daft Punk's Harder Faster Stronger and This Is
Radio Clash. Probably my fave new track of the weekend...so it's Krikor?
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Yep, 1995 is right.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=12:27:26|PMsql=Akt6qoauauijn
Titonton Duvante - Selections For Intercourse - ON CD
Yep, this one does exist -- I got mine at the Record Time tent right after
Titonton's performance at DEMF 2001...haven't seen it since though, so maybe
it never hit the *stores* ??
John
anyone on this list work with All Music Guide?
explain please
Man, I was picturing a photo of Johnny Mathis on Rob Hood's page before
*ever* expecting to see a tidbit like that!!
There are quite a few joke pages on AMG, if you know where to look -- it
never hurts to plug into the search
I almost gagged the other day when
I heard a progressive mix of this on TV.
Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but
don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what
was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on
I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this
record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ...
I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember
hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British
were starting to come down in the
, 2002 11:23 AM
To: John Bush; Dan Sicko; Tristan Watkins
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex
patterson drop E2-E4.
also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the track is like 45
minutes long
I don't know which tracks you're talking about, but his Clear LP from 1997
(The Driving Memoirs) is an absolute masterpiece in my book, though very
much in the minimalist, jazzy vein described (dismissed? ; ) below. There
are so many great ideas on that album, at least three or four per track,
or it would be a cybotron .. liek clear ...
or a numer of names - sharivari
both ยด82
Alleys of Your Mind came out in '81...
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM
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Anybody have a link to a supplier of
sleeves and jackets for 12 records?
Otherwise check http:\\www.bagsunlimited.com ... they carry sleeves,
jackets, mailers, cases, etc.
Mayhap he harks back to those glorious days of yore (I mean, RS) ??
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:53 PM
To: DJ HEAT; DETROIT
Subject: RE: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance
what the hell are you talking
Apologies in advance for two short commments.
No there probably won't be any collaborations but this
makes me think why is sex so bad in the eyes of Christians?
I'm not sure which Christians you're referring to here, but the reason why
many unreligious people think this about Christians is the
Can anyone point me out to a decent biography of these guys.
I'm biased but All Music Guide has a good section on yrs majesty, YMO.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=Baq6atr69kl7x
And can anyone describe there role
in the develpment of electronical music?
Did what Kraftwerk did,
| Where is cameo a.k.a. Larry Blackmon from?
| New York? Detroit? Philly?
I would've guessed Philly myself, but he grew up in Harlem, and that's where
Cameo started as well...
Blackmon and Nathan Leftenant appear on a track from the new (DJ) Cam album
Soulshine, but it's not good...lame Roy
yeah - saw them live a few times and totally mesmeric.
Wow, when/where? Were they still performing behind curtains?
These guys were so good and got so little recognition -- Record of Breaks is
a masterpiece, definitely several years ahead of its time. I'd love to hear
the reaction if it came
massive attackprotection
Uggh -- so sappy! ; Give me Unfinished Sympathy any day...
John
Speaking of making you cry...
--
NP: Larry Levan - Live at the Paradise Garage
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:39 AM
To: Ian Cheshire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] non techno
hurray!! c'mon England!
I'll be rooting as hard as anyone once I finally get a chance to watch
This is the first time I've seen dixon, and he reminded me in
appearance and behavior of Prince during his Dirty Mind stage
Makes me wonder what he was getting up to behind the blue tarp during his
live set at Planet E last year!
I have to admit, I was pretty close to the front during this
Whenever I need a second opinion, I check out Weather Underground
(wunderground.co). Based right here in Ann Arbor too; they're putting a
positive spin on it all...well, at least for Monday...
FRIDAY (Angry cloud faces blowing...)
Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning.
I was there the first year and didn't have any problems -- it's a 15-minute
walk up Jefferson and has a nice diner. I seem to remember some lowrider
activity on the street in back, but loud systems aren't much of a concern at
DEMF... ;
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From: shower_blue
i always thought the strings had been
lifted frm somewhere but im not sure
that it was definately this as it sounded
reasonably recent - any one know the score?
Looks like they credit a conductor for the Blue Lines album (if you're
talking about Unfinished Sympathy). That doesn't quite
ah that'llbe Craig Armstrong..
According to allmusic, it's Will Malone, but we've been wrong before... ;
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I think he gave in far too quickly and easily to make a pop album --
sounds like he took notes while listening to a few Depeche/Moroder records
and presto, he's got a pop record...
As for the vocals, I think he could've done much better too. At his best
Ricky Aloof sounds like a second-rate Jason
Tough! I've been looking for a few years myself, and still haven't seen
it...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:52 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] BLAZE - 25 Years Later
Hiya all,
Back in 1992 Motown
While money may be the easiest problem to
shake your fist at, the marketing forces
that determine the economics are guided by
history - a history of bigotry and conservativism
that refuses to acredit African-Amercians with
anything outside of popular stereotypes.
Don't forget hillbillies!
Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then -- I'm leaving
Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I did just
see Derrick last month). If there are any other intriguing shows happening
anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about them
:BDP - lol for black dog -
:
:but BDP was big b4 black dog :D
Did anyone else confuse BOC for Blue Oyster Cult like I did? It took me a
week to realize people were talking about Boards of Canada!
John
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who hasn't released anything
remotley touching the original
Black Dog Productions stuff
Sure, his solo LP doesn't sound like the stuff BDP was doing seven years
earlier, but it's still excellent...especially recommended for those into
Byrne/Eno Fourth World-type collage.
John
i might be wrong, but i remember it coming
out in the days when jeff mills, laurent
garnier and dave clarke were still selling
out friday nights at Club UK.
Looks like early '97...
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=A331150
If your are looking for info Richie Hawtin,
Derrick May or f*cking Moby, it's all in there,
obviously, but also names you (me) wouldn't expect
like Michael James, Frank de Groodt Astralasia.
Yes, there's a reason we didn't call it the All Music Guide to Techno... ;
There *are* hundreds of
It is entirely up to the editor, who is
influenced by the publisher and their
concerns about the market they are targeting.
I'd never presume about your experiences, so *please* don't presume about
ours. AMG has never received any type of suggestion, concerning direction
or inclusions, from
turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than
the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered
a few techno records round about 1993)
That's stretching the truth -- nobody spun a hardcore/drum'n'bass set with
just Bug in the Bassbin and a few KMS records... There were a lot of great
Sorry, no British number one smashes for Associates -- they barely even hit
the Top Ten (once with Party Fears Two from early '82). Two others in the
Top 40: Club Country (mid-'82) and Love Hangover/18 Carat Love Affair (late
'82).
John
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There's info at allmusic:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=Bqn09kett7q7m
Slightly poppier than I'd like to hear, but I still think they were very
brilliant -- just listen to, well, Music for Listening To.
John
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And they get a *lot* of shout-outs! Definitely the most fun on Detroit
radio I've heard in years -- even better than Magic 105.1... ; Let's hear
it for community radio!
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From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:01 AM
To:
Steve Dahl. A friend just told me that the on-air buddy on his show was
black *and* homosexual *and* a friend of Steve's -- so no more using him as
the stick to beat up on the anti-disco movement (at least for the usual
black/homosexual reasons). Maybe he really *did* dislike the music!
John
Anyone heard his new full-length?
Comparisons to Maddkatt Courtship's I Know Elektrikboy?
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Hi Everyone,
You're all welcome to stop by the Borders in downtown AA tonight for a
presentation/book-signing for the All Music Guide to Electronica. It's at
7pm, and the basic set-up is me playing a few of my favorite tracks, then
talking about the progression of electronic music from the '60s
the third big war will begin
when the big city is burning.
A really bad one too -- most of those Nostradamus hoaxes at least get the
Medieval syntax/word-choice correct...
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Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
the community as well.
If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
community of Americans who'd decry any attempt to link a
for me its a little bit less then i
excpected. But its just enough to hear
sumner again. crystal is perfect.
And dig that video! I could've sworn it was Travis or Starsailor or Blur or
one of those half-pint Britpop twats... ;
John
PS: Right on with Sumner and Hook -- they sound better than
I caught the kraftwork reference as well.
Not to say she wasn't down with Kraftwerk/Bambaataa back in the day, but
this may have come courtesy of Jacques lu Cont from Les Rythmes Digitales --
who's in her backing band I believe...
.john.
http://www.dj-i-robot.com/
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: (Mark and Gez have since parted company - Mark
: remaining as LFO and Gez recording solely as G Man.
Don't forget Gez's several releases as himself: Presents Tony Montana on !K7
and the just-released Bayou Paradis. Unfortunately, the black hole known as
Force Inc has claimed yet another
Errr? Gez has been quite prolific over the past several years.
.Or am I just missing the context of the comment?
Not that he hasn't done a lot of great tracks, just that he's doing that
sound for that label. Sounding a little old to my ears, that's all --
chalk it up to Monday morning if
Which is hopefully not just a cash in printed version
of the website entries like all the other AMG books?
Cash in? I suppose you're right -- companies like to make money, and the
people who work for companies appreciate being paid for their effort... In
that sense, the book is a total
So is Detroit City Airport closed down?
Well, not closed down -- just without service from a professional airline.
That still leaves thousands of private pilots free to land, taxi, take off,
whatever they want, whenever they please...
.john.
What the h#ll are Focus-themed activities ???
Just like Duff Man from The Simpsons -- they're activities meant to promote
awareness of the Ford Focus!
.john.
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Why, on earth, would a major company,
fire the head guy, a notorious artist
no less, 2 weeks prior to the event?
Maybe she wouldn't have an excuse after volume two became a roaring
success?...
There's an article on the cover of today's Detroit News too...
I think it's been mentioned here a few times in the past, but after four
years of working and waiting, we're finally ready to publish the All Music
Guide to Electronic(a). Anyone who's spent time on the allmusic.com site
knows we take care of a *lot* of records (plus a lot of Detroit records) and
but then he puts them on a side stage
read: yeah I couldn't be doing what I'm
doing today with out these pioneers, so we'll
put em on the side stage while I'm on the main.
I sure don't want to defend Moby (though he's good at what he does), but
even though he's the frontman of this whole
They have a great marketing plan with
sponsoring the DEMF and Moby tour.
Definitely better than those awful Focus commercials shot in front of the
State Theater (?), with a scary-makeup'ed, middle-aged pitchwoman
interpreting all the cool things that kids are saying about the car...
One of the
RE: two-step garage, not all of it is commercial
or obvious and it's a shame that the hype is
impacting on perceptions of the music as a whole.
I don't think anyone would knock Masters at Work for sounding commercial, so
it's hard to see why anyone could knock 2-step for the same reasons
Does anyone have any more info on
this book? Looks like great reading.
It is a great read, though Detroiters will have to laugh at the transcripts
of Michigan place names -- apparently Juan studied at Wotshenaw Community
College in Ipsonati or somesuch blather. It's pretty formulaic too (each
Wednesday February 7th, 2001
Solar 3rd Year Anniversary
Featuring
Comin From Tha D: BluePrint Tour
with
DJ Assault
Detroit Grand Pubahs (Live)
Sean Deason
Ectomorph (Live)
DJ Godfather
Keith Tucker
@Blind Pig - 208 S. First Street, Ann Arbor MI
Doors: 9:30 pm
Ages: 18 + with ID
Price: $10
A lot of the Body and Soul folk are
using cds these days: Danny Krivit, if
I remember correctly, does. FWIW, I can
only picture myself using something that
has some kind of creative incentive.
The difference comes with your approach to DJing... For hip-hop or techno
DJs, turntables make
Any 313-types in or around Barcelona? I'll be there the first week of
March, and I'd love to get the low-down on what's happening in Spain's
grooviest city. So if you live there/lived there/been there and can help
out, it'd be much appreciated... Any
.john.
http://www.recordcollectorinc.com
I can definitely vouch for this store -- I've got friends in IC, and the
first time I went out there in '94, I was surprised by how many great
records they had (guess I didn't expect it from Iowa). I don't remember too
much in specific (only been back twice),
if you consider a spot on t.r.l. @mtv
helping thats just a combitnation
of pop music tatics (self promotion)
and a painfully evident lack of knowledge
concerning what underground is ,
I've got so many great memories of being exposed to outrageous musical
novelties -- Pac Jam,
(incidentally, steve hurley claims he wrote 'love
can't turn around' and that farley stole it from him).
And Hurley stole the bassline from Let No Man Put Asunder by First Choice
for his own Jack Your Body. It's all kind of moot, though -- they're both
great producers (Hurley especially).
wo!! that was one of the best nights at motor i've ever had.
swayzak was great. even though there was possibly
too much bass with too much volume at times (possibly
they wanted it to sound like the speakers were blown)
Agreed, that was a great night. Swayzak blew my head off to start
but what i don't understand is that the
material they play live is so superior
to the stuff they release on vinyl.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night -- if they recorded their
sets and put the best one out as their next album, it would completely
*smoke* records along the same
Is this still going on at Motor tonight? I'm assuming so, but I sure
haven't seen much mention of it here... Not that we haven't had a full
plate this summer, but the next few days are incredibly packed:
Tonight:
Juan/Swayzak @ Motor
Thursday:
BT/Terrence Parker @ State Theatre -- one for the
Is anybody here familiar
with Russel's serious work?
It's not quite serious work, but there's a compilation on Polygram called
Another Thought that's still in print. It's not really classical *or*
electronic, closer to pop than anything else, but still so screwed up that
most anyone can get
any comments on how this guy pioneered the
art of dj'ing, moved on to be the first
dj/producer and then released the seminal,
stripped-down classic set it off'?
Check http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B182862 for a Walter Gibbons
bio...
.John.
Whoa. Poetry reading? Who had that? Over a DJ set??
About three-quarters of the way through May's set, Umar Bin Hassan from the
Last Poets came on and did a spoken-word reading (no accompaniment from the
decks). It was well-done, but it confused quite a few people --
unfortunately, he sounded
add rob hood in the mix too!!!
definitely ... The fact that he's
at Motor this weekend nearly slipped
past me with all the DEMF hub-bub! :)
Wait, Rob Hood's at Motor? I'm there if so, but I just checked Motor's site
and it doesn't list him -- unless it's on Sunday?...
.John.
Hey, does anyone know of an online map with the specific layout for Hart
Plaza? A friend and I are trying to agree on a good meeting spot... There
is a fountain in the middle though, right? Maybe we'll just meet there...
Can't believe I'm going to miss the entire first day's lineup plus the
Section 25's Looking From The Hilltops still a fav of mine.
I don't think they're out on LP, but all the Section 25 albums have been
reissued on CD with bonus tracks. The reissue of From The Hip has two
remixes of Looking from a Hilltop plus six mixes of other songs.
.John.
http://www.skinny.com/music/artist/manparrish/man.html or
http://www.users.interport.net/~hotstuff/
Try http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B19127 too...
.John.
Prompted by the coming release of the movie Groove, today's New York Times
has a comparatively well-done article on electronic music, with separate
pages explaining the differences between techno, house, drum'n'bass, trance,
and big beat. Admittedly, nobody here's going to learn *too* much --
BUT this brings up the fine topic of
why Mr. Hawtin is mentioned as the pioneer.
you know, wouldn't Carl Craig or Mad
Mike be a more appropriate choice?
Spot-on. Carl Craig would be the natural choice from all angles: as a
musical pioneer, as someone with underground cred, as someone
I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with
an 'e' like it's meant to be spelled.
Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush.
Okay, now who's messing around with names?... ;)
.John.
(who never wants to be known as The Bushman or Bushy-tale ever again...)
(and no George W. jokes
for the YMO fans out there:
which releases from this band
(vinyl LPs and 12s, not interested in cds)
are considered essential; looking to beef
up my YMO collection here,
but money's tight so would
like some opinions before i buy
more. thanks. andrew duke :)
As far as the albums go, I'd
i was reading through the Smallfish web site and they
had a quick interwiew with dan bell, he gave a top 10
and the first track was Lil Louis Journey with the
Lonely'...can anyone tell me more info on this...
i cant find any info on it...
Nice and (fairly) intimate second album from Mr.
could be. i've got a bad headache
as i type this (and typed that :))
'can you party' was the tod terry track that sampled
'can you feel' by larry heard. there is a vocal and a
instrumental version (not on the same disk) both
have been re-released by trax recently.
Funny, I've got a
Does anyone know the name of that wicked
house track that he played, which had a
really uplifting vocal which went I feel alright,
the world is good! (or something similar)?
Could be a few different ones, but it sounds like It's Alright, I Feel It
from NuYorican Soul (aka Masters at Work).
What the hell is Lavelle smoking anyway?
Is he even at Mo' Wax anymore? I'm pretty sure he was on his way out, but
maybe some of the releases he supervised are still trickling out. I think
he went to XL Recordings or to a new label, leaving Mo' Wax basically a
corporate shill...
.John.
It was pretty fabulous. I know Kenny Carl aren't thought of primarily as
DJs, but they had the place rocking! Carl had a pretty intense look on his
face most of the night, but Kenny was really enjoying himself -- pumping his
fist in the air every now and then, really getting the crowd into it.
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