RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-05 Thread Odeluga, Ken
t;> 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats. > >> > >> 3. Is Prince pop or electro? Roger & Zapp? Dr. Dre sampling Roger > >> & Zapp? ... what about Snoop here? > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc > >> > >> is that electro? Pop?

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2007-12-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
had 4-4 beats. > >> > >> 3. Is Prince pop or electro? Roger & Zapp? Dr. Dre sampling Roger > >> & Zapp? ... what about Snoop here? > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc > >> > >> is that electro? Pop? R&B?

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
probably not but I heard that they do keep bananas preserved under their stage for an after show snack MEK "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 07:47:14 PM: > What I really wonder is if you can sharpen razor blades by aligning > them to magnetic north under their pyramid.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Luis-Manuel Garcia
?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap? - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KiDD*e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:25:58 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electr

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread kent williams
make it > 'electro'? or maybe they just invented "electro-house"? > > > - Original Message > From: Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 1:43:52 PM > Subject: Re: (313)

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Rob G
--- Original Message From: Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 1:43:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to confuse the arguments as much as poss

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
? ... what about Snoop here? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc > > is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap? > > > > > - Original Message > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: KiDD*e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 4:43 PM, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to > confuse the > arguments as much as possible. > > 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown influenced. > > 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Rob G
.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:25:58 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro LOL! Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder. MEK "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM: > I've given up to get all worked up everytime i h

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
PROTECTED]> > To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Benoît Pueyo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:57 PM > Subject: RE: (313) Electro vs Electro > > > > N

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2007-12-03 Thread KiDD*e
rted voice). If he doesn't get it, i say goodbye. - K* - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Benoît Pueyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, De

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
George Clinton said it best "Everything is on the 1" MEK Michael Pujos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/02/2007 03:40:31 PM: > kent williams a écrit : > > I don't think anything is gained by being purist about a term like > > 'Electro.' Though if you're talking to a Detroit Techno fan it does >

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
ed and perhaps in future, start to be forgotten. > > What do we want electro to mean? > > Kraftwerk+Parliament? > > Or > > Fischerspooner+Tiga? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Michael.Elliot- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Problem is - Electro has always gotten the short end of the stick. It's the forgotten brother/sister of hip-hop. Scratch that - Electro is Hip-Hop! After the 80s barely anyone paid any attention to it - from techno to house to mainstream music. Hell, it barely got any recognition within hip-hop.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 11:19 AM, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you define Pop? I would say that Daft Punk's overt manipulation of > image and how > they present both their music and themselves is up in the higher echelons of > pop music > alongside Kraftwerk, Sparks et al. In fact it's

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 December 2007 16:17 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro > > > On Dec 3, 2007 11:11 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Homework is less pop than their subsequent albums. Imo Daft Punk as pop as

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Toby Frith
sona to another level - in that they don't actually play at their own gigs. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2007 16:17 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro On Dec 3, 2007 11:11 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 11:11 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Homework is less pop than their subsequent albums. Imo Daft Punk as pop as > Chemical Brothers, Moby, Prodigy, etc. are pop their last album was very techno, it sucked, but it wasnt really pop at all. its funny that "one more time" is a pop s

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
AIL PROTECTED]> > cc: 313 > Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> > 03/12/07 15:40 Subject: Re: > (313) Electro vs Electro > > > > > > > Fck that - just because a huge majority

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Gil Yaker
Hey, two songs off of Homework were nominated for grammys, how much more pop can you get? I kid... :) - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 10:59:16 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Ele

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 10:51 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you classify 'Homework' as pop music ?? > > How about 'Rock n Roll' off that album ? Doesn't sound very 'pop' to me. > > Maybe their subsequent albums, but Homework is an all time classic in my > opinion. homework is an excellent house

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Odeluga, Ken
, start to be forgotten. What do we want electro to mean? Kraftwerk+Parliament? Or Fischerspooner+Tiga? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2007 15:40 To: Benoît Pueyo Cc: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

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2007-12-03 Thread Gary . Girard
Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: Benoît Pueyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313 Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> 03/12/07 15:40

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Fck that - just because a huge majority of people call anything with a "dance beat" and synths "techno" doesn't mean that we should start calling Paul Oakenfold sound "techno music". Electro = Electronic Funk as in Egyptian Lover, Aux 88, Whodini, UTFO - it's the in early roots of hip-hop, it's F

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Frank Glazer
nonsense. On Dec 2, 2007 4:44 PM, Michael Pujos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > if it has > > a 4-on-the-floor rhythm, i don't call it electro. > > > > > It might be electro-techno though :) > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Pujos
if it has a 4-on-the-floor rhythm, i don't call it electro. It might be electro-techno though :)

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Pujos
kent williams a écrit : I don't think anything is gained by being purist about a term like 'Electro.' Though if you're talking to a Detroit Techno fan it does have a very specific meaning. Daft Punk aint it. Though Electro is by no means an exclusively Detroit phenomenon. It describes a partic

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread kent williams
I don't think anything is gained by being purist about a term like 'Electro.' Though if you're talking to a Detroit Techno fan it does have a very specific meaning. Daft Punk aint it. Though Electro is by no means an exclusively Detroit phenomenon. It describes a particular beat pattern and emph

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 2, 2007 1:50 PM, Benoît Pueyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To reply to Tom, you have to know that here all major medias going from > mass audience TV to promoters (even in the finest clubs such as Rex) use > 'Electro' for a very wide spectrum of electronic music. So sadly the > Me.De and Au

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Frank Glazer
i've always thought of electro as an extremely limiting (in a good way) genre term including only music with heavy 808 style drum patterns. electro is all about the rhythm, in my opinion. if it has a 4-on-the-floor rhythm, i don't call it electro. ten classic examples of electro: ice-t and chri

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Benoît Pueyo
Pretty good description of what's happening here in France. Did you know I was French, eh ? To reply to Tom, you have to know that here all major medias going from mass audience TV to promoters (even in the finest clubs such as Rex) use 'Electro' for a very wide spectrum of electronic music. S

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Luis-Manuel Garcia
"Electro" has different meanings from place to place, as well. When I was living in Paris, "electro" was used as a rather broad genre label that usually contrasted with "minimal(e)". "Electro" included tracks that filled the mid-frequency range with distortion and/or synths, vocals, and a

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 2, 2007 7:51 AM, Benoît Pueyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To me, we have to accept to call that music 'Electro' simply becasue a > huge majority of people do that nah. tom

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-02 Thread Benoît Pueyo
I think Daft Punk cannot be qualified as Electro, simply house or dance music to me. But I see what u wanted to mean : most people call that new kindof dance music filled with medium distorted synths 'Electro'. A good example : John Dahlback 'Blink'. To me, we have to accept to call that mus

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-01 Thread Michael Kuszynski
Daft Punk is succeeding in the post 2001-death-of-massive-raves merger of indie, acoustic hipster, genre bender, post idm, rock friendly, disco cum techno / house universe we live in, after having made some pretty forward thinking, synth heavy, greatly engineered and arranged fat disco house 10 yea

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-01 Thread Frank Glazer
daft punk has never been electro. the aux 88 i've heard is definitely electro. On Dec 1, 2007 8:40 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are Daft Punk and Aux 88 both Electro? Either? Neither? > > m50 > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com

(313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-01 Thread m50
Are Daft Punk and Aux 88 both Electro? Either? Neither? m50