sounds like a brother needs to quit whining considering he's doing a
fabric mix:
http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/metro-area-mix-fabric/#When:13:34:00Z
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:28 AM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not really the fans' fault. The internet has forced a drastic
As a small business we just don't have the luxury of taking a stand on
the issue nor would I realistically- Serato is a great tool and I've
nothing against Digital DJ's on principle - there's 3 other store in
walking distance of ours that sell it and about 60 odd mail order
companies who'd supply
It depends- I've definitetly mumbled some stuff to a couple of peepz
about labels not being around in 5 years time to release music but
it's not really the time and place to have a long discussion on the
subject unfortunately!
2008/9/29 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Do you ever take this as a
Hey Frank- I didn't take it as a judgement so no worries there.
There's a long and interesting story about Rubadub's development from
a 100% vinyl shop to our current incarnation but I just ain't got the
time to write it all out I'm afraid!
We still get repeat business from most of our Serato
Hmm, good point JT.
2008/9/29 JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody who lives on a budget will take pride in getting something for
nothing. That is how it works.
I should add to this -- digital theft is not a concept that
A very quick interjection from me!
We're a record retailer but we also sell DJ and Studio equipment- we
currently sell around 10 Serato systems a week and the number has been
growing steadily over the last 2 years. Almost without fail the
customer will tell us with a big grin on their faces that
interestingly this hasn't stopped you from selling serato.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very quick interjection from me!
We're a record retailer but we also sell DJ and Studio equipment- we
currently sell around 10 Serato systems a week and the
Why should it? One might advocate taking the choice of whether to break the
law out of the hands of the individual with technology
when it came to say, gun control. But in this case when there's a perfectly
legit way to use such gear why should a shop then have
to stop selling it because some
Do you ever take this as a 'teaching moment' and tell them why that is
a horrible way to view things?
Of course, this just goes to show what everyone's probably noticed:
99% of DJs are complete wankers.
Present company excepted off course.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah I think refraining from selling your wares would not be
reasonable but I think you could take the opportunity to say your
piece about stealing music. Even making a PSA might be frustrating
though.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:27 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you ever take this
Ah, see, my point has nothing to do with morals nor ethics. In my
understanding the OP works for a music shop, rubadub if i'm not
mistaken, a shop that most likely relies on repeat business by paying
customers of music media, not just music gear. Sure, there are going
to be people who use it
to 'the scene', rightly or wrongly.
Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
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Hatch Desk x1088
VT Library Users' Guide
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2008 14:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist
Anybody who lives on a budget will take pride in getting something for
nothing. That is how it works.
Of course R-a-D will keep selling Serato. It's a good product.
Refusing to sell it would be like refusing to sell blank cd's because
people use them to burn bootlegs. Please! And R-a-D, like any
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody who lives on a budget will take pride in getting something for
nothing. That is how it works.
I should add to this -- digital theft is not a concept that is readily
understood by the masses yet. I highly doubt many
morality involved. The idea of consequences from the clicks you make
while sitting in your home in your underwear and a beer is not a
Yep I get in my undies and sit in my beer.now that's livin..
Oof I'm done
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:15 AM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Policing the internet seems like an impossible task,
I think it's impossible to exhaustively police the Internet, but an
hour or two a week spent with google and the torrent search sites
would at least give you some places to
. It's
just a total mess, but I imagine that digital theft will be
increasingly policed, and increasingly more ably policed, and the idea
of digital theft will be a much more broadly understood crime by the
mainstream in the not-too-distant future. It's inevitable.
They are already writing the
Changed the subject line.
That is a reason why the RIAA and MPAA
are using scare tactic lawsuits. But they're late, and it amounts to
punishing essentially innocent people for their own lateness. It's
just a total mess, but I imagine that digital theft will be
increasingly policed, and
Well, sorta. Wave goodbye to DJ Mixes that haven't gone through
proper channels. It sucks I know. It's sort of a replay of the
record industry's response to cassette tapes when they came into
popular usage in the early 80's...they really hated mix tapes and
tried to kill home cassette recorders.
I can assure you that as long as I am breathing I will be making
unauthorized freely shared promotional DJ mixes with media that I have
paid for.
When mixtapes are outlawed, only outlaws will make mixtapes.
For my archive of such mixes since 1996 please visit
http://www.deejaycountzero.com
On
Me too.
I only mention it because BPI shut 'a friend' down for providing mixes
once.
robin...
On 29 Sep 2008, at 18:12, Frank Glazer wrote:
I can assure you that as long as I am breathing I will be making
unauthorized freely shared promotional DJ mixes with media that I have
paid for.
Listening to music isn't an event anymore unless it's live. No one sits
down and just listens. I think entertaining yourself on the go is turning
into a huge problem. It's like yogurt tubes versus nice Greek yogurt with
honey drizzled on it.
-Morgan Geist
By my reading of this, he's not
He should take a break:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=960
robin...
robin wrote:
He should take a break:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=96
Oh I don't know Robin, it's a good interview that reflects the times and
where his head is at - much better than some pointless back-story PR BS.
Here's another one from Mick Harris:
On 26 Sep 2008, at 10:02, Martin Dust wrote:
robin wrote:
He should take a break:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=96
Oh I don't know Robin, it's a good interview that reflects the times
and where his head is at - much better than some pointless back-
story PR BS.
Yeah I really enjoyed that interview with Geist. Ace hair cut as well.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:02 AM
To: robin
Cc: 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
robin wrote:
He should take a break:
http
I get a better feel for where he's coming from in this interview:
http://trickydiscobristol.blogspot.com/2008/09/td-interviews-morgan-geist.html
robin...
On 26 Sep 2008, at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Yeah I really enjoyed that interview with Geist. Ace hair cut as well.
Oh yeah. I agree. Don't get me wrong, the honesty in there is
refreshing. The problem, as I see it, for people making a living from
music is that it's hard to take that break unless you're very
(financially) successful.
I guess they are going to have to accept that it's no longer a business
that can only be a good thing if you like innovative music
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From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
Oh yeah. I agree. Don't
6:03 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
Oh yeah. I agree. Don't get me wrong, the honesty in there is
refreshing. The problem, as I see it, for people making a living
from music is that it's hard to take that break unless you're very
(financially) successful.
I guess
Apparently we were only into it for a laugh anyway, so why miss it now?
-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:51 AM
To: /0
Cc: Martin Dust; robin; 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
Innovative music
] wrote:
Apparently we were only into it for a laugh anyway, so why miss it now?
-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:51 AM
To: /0
Cc: Martin Dust; robin; 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
Innovative
Reason it's not a business is because his fans won't let him make a
living at it. You read what he said about people complimenting him on a
record that isn't even released yet.
That sucks. I've talked to struggling musicians who's so-called fans say
straight to their face that they really enjoy
That mother comment is priceless!
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:17 AM, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the interview is fantastic. i hung out with him last december in his
studio and we talked about a lot of this stuff...it helps to know that
even while he talks about this stuff he is a
On 26 Sep 2008, at 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reason it's not a business is because his fans won't let him make a
living at it. You read what he said about people complimenting him
on a
record that isn't even released yet.
That sucks. I've talked to struggling musicians who's
His stuff is also on Beatport.com and Boomkat.com. Friends don't let
friends use ITunes.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:17 AM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect this is especially annoying as MG has made his stuff available on
iTunes. I mean you can't get any easier to buy than that.
It's not really the fans' fault. The internet has forced a drastic
re-configuration of the music business, that so far has not found any
balance, it hasn't really re-configured in a sustainable way yet. MG
was right about iPods and the fact that nobody really _listens_ to
music anymore. The mp3
) Morgan Geist interview
It's not really the fans' fault. The internet has forced a drastic
re-configuration of the music business, that so far has not found any
balance, it hasn't really re-configured in a sustainable way yet. MG was
right about iPods and the fact that nobody really _listens_
His stuff is also on Beatport.com and Boomkat.com. Friends don't let
friends use ITunes.
Indeed. A good vendor:
http://www.whatpeopleplay.com/ (the Word and Sound people)
Apple have enough cash. (Wasn't my point really but not to worry).
Actually for people who want to use digital files
Wait a second...
how is it _not_ the fans fault for Geist not getting paid for his music
when people download via P2P before it's even out?
you can't blame the technology - it takes someone to drive that car to get
it from A to B
P2P/blogs/etc. sites aren't breaking into people's houses and
This isn't the place to debate it, obviously, but the fact is that
high-bitrate MP3s can't be distinguished from CDs in blind listening
tests. You can argue that vinyl is superior to both those formats, but
in the majority of listening situations the difference in sound
between the formats is
26, 2008 5:09 PM
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
This isn't the place to debate it, obviously, but the fact is that
high-bitrate MP3s can't be distinguished from CDs in blind listening
tests. You can argue that vinyl is superior to both those formats, but
in the majority
You know, as much as I absolutely love Morgan Geist's music and
respect him as an artist, I don't see him as a total victim in his
anxiety stroll.
A mutual friend of ours in Chicago told me about how he just wants to
record music (not play shows) and how he's considering quitting music
This is all true if you are looking at the problem and not the cause.
But if you look at the roots of the problem, it is the same issue that
has plagued the music business since it's inception. Intellectual
property, what it is, and how you market it. That is the music
business. Focusing on
It's a tough discussion, and I'm still wrestling with my opinions.
On one hand, I respect anyone trying to make a living making music.
It's a tough road (especially for electronic music), and having your
property stolen (downloaded for free) when you need it to pay bills is
a bitter pill to deal
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:09 AM
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview
This isn't the place to debate it, obviously, but the fact is that
high-bitrate MP3s can't be distinguished from CDs in blind listening tests.
You can argue that vinyl is superior to both those formats
Scorn has been one of my faves through the years and I've loved how much
the music has changed over time, yet the essence of it persists.
The sound in the video unfortunately was singular and one-dimensional.
You couldn't really hear the backing sounds, which is where his magic
lies. The
Subject
(313) morgan geist interview
my favourite quote:
Is your record collection disproportionately vintage?
I don’t buy any new shit.
You know what?
I have ENOUGH mates like this.
I think they're all backwards. Yeah, I like to dig for my old tracks as
much as the next man, and sometimes I have trouble keeping up with them,
but
btw, that unclassics cd is dope - I got it for my brithday, I really like
it...
and, oww, whens that cover of magnifique coming?
my mate wanted kylie to do magnifique you know!
_
- End of message text
Hopefully Morgan was joking.
yeah, he probably was.. Or was he??
but, thing is, I have at least three mates who aren't joking at all.
and DO NOT buy any new records what-so-ever.
and I just can't get on it, it seems way way too backward to me.
totally agree with you, alex.
there's always good music, each era has it.
e.g. metro area in our days, rite? :)
morgan geist's position just reminds me of herbert and his dogma.
maybe you just can't stand electronic, sampling music after producing it
for so many years, you get tired of it.
Oh god.
Why do I feel this is going to backfire on me big time?
He just said I don't buy any new records at the minute or something, and
I just thought that was a kinda funny lil comment!
So, I just thought I'd poke a lil fun and say what, not even yours
Morgan?
in a kinda joking way.
I take
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
btw, that unclassics cd is dope - I got it for my brithday, I
really like
it...
it got reviewed in rolling stone this month, got 4 stars. they
also mentioned it in the staff picks thing on the back page.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 November 2004 15:25
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) morgan geist interview
Hopefully Morgan was joking.
yeah, he probably was.. Or was he??
but, thing is, I have at least three mates who
Subject
Re: (313) morgan geist interview
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1360
thanks,
aidan
This is one of the best artist interviews I've read in a long time, I
thoroughly enjoyed it! Thanks so much for posting.
Leslie
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From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:36 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) morgan geist
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