I saw DJ Ken this weekend in Toronto. He rocked some hard tech-house and
the crowd really ate it up. Barbie looked a little too fucked up to
notice though. I heard she has a nasty crystal habit.
Kevin
You're all missing the obvious. :)
Maybe a little girl will be given a set of dolls and she will play with
them, let Barbie have a go on the decks, and grow up associating the decks
with her dolls and then, having reached her teens and fully discovered
music, decide to get onto the decks herself.
Right..!.. one of my babies shouted this out to me this AM:
His name is BLAINE the DJ and he kicks it with the Generation Girls!
... not yer mama's Barbie dolls...,
J. E. v. F-B. B.
As far as my comments a couple day ago on this stupid thread that wont go away ,
I was just stating that raves have become a part of youth culture and that's
why your seeing more advertisements like DJ Ken or Baby Pop Poppers.
Sadly, I still have to go to these youth gatherings to see the
I shouldn't be contributing to such a lame thread, but nobody seems to be
stating what hopefully most people would think if they saw this toy; who
cares?is everyone one this list this UPTIGHT all the time? I think DJ
Ken is pretty cool and a neat indicator of the times. I can picture the two
what bothers me about so much music journalism is how misguided and
generally stupid it is. it tries to force everything into a lame post-modern
perspective whereby EVERYTHING MUST BE categorized somehow and all
descriptions of x track are supposed to sum up the music perfectly by using
lots
Agreed. My primary complaint with most music journalism is that it's simply
boring, and generally poorly informed. For all the aspersions cast in his
direction by members of this list, I at least think Simon Reynolds is at
least interesting to read (even thoughe he is eminently disagreeable,
I personally am less troubled by the presence of turntables in a barbie
playset than by their presence in the band limp bizkit where they are used
almost solely for the pop appeal of the urban image to market to mall
children and to add a few needless and poorly placed scratches over a
distorted
Wow! Well you gotta positive view of the world! I'd hate to see when you get
ALL CYNICAL on us! What would that be like;)
But seriously, teenage is a hard time in life, everyone from little children
to adults truly hates teenagers and they also hate themselves, so could it
be any harder? So you
true. could be a lot worse though.
imagine if some company wanted to really cash in on the music/culture (and
at the same time, insult it in a major way) and they came out with a detroit
doll. the doll would be black, his favourite music would be techno, his
favourite hangout the ghettos of
It's funny cause I both agree and disagree with peoples bitterness towards the
'mainstreaming' of such a culture. Can you honestly say that you didn't expect
this shit to happen? And for most of us, the raves are not such a huge part
of our lives that something like young kids at a party
.
- Original Message -
From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Rave betty Barbie and DJ Ken
Go to a rave nowdayz and its just a bunch of kids with their baggy pants
and
baseball caps that are into trance-disco loops
In a message dated 4/14/00 1:40:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wear baggy pants and baseball caps and I listen to/spin techno. I have
only been spinning records for a year and a half. Does that mean I'm not
down with YOUR undergorund? Sorry I couldn't make it to parties in the
early 90's.
Many of us who came up in the early days listened, observed, paid attention,
respected the people who had been before us and learned about the music and
the scene. Sadly, that's not always the case when you go to a rave these
days.
I have a feeling that there were just as many people,
Yih guelph!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) i'm goin there to pick up a friend of mine
tonight. Anyways, I agree. I can't beleive this is still an ongoing argument in
here. Although I may be a hypocrite in some cases (i.e. my last tangent about
Phryl parties in Toronto) it comes down to the fact that it's
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Rave betty Barbie and DJ Ken
Many of us who came up in the early days listened, observed, paid
attention,
respected the people who had been
In a message dated 4/14/00 10:40:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Go to a rave nowdayz and its just a bunch of kids with their baggy pants
and
baseball caps that are into trance-disco loops-progressive
house-drumnbass, you
dont see people that were into the scene in
Oh, stop whining
Didn't mean for it to come off in a whining tone but... anyway.
it's how you present yourself.
Good point, i agree.
Many of us who came up in the early days listened, observed, paid
attention,
respected the people who had been before us and learned about the music
and
Jesus do we always have to have this whiny ass discussion. Let's make the
distinction please as to the difference between the Rave scene and this
mystical Utopian non-existant past that seems to fit so fondly in everyones
mind. Raves and the trendy (it's a fashion and drug culture not a music
I personally am less troubled by the presence of turntables in a barbie
playset than by their presence in the band limp bizkit where they are used
almost solely for the pop appeal of the urban image to market to mall
children and to add a few needless and poorly placed scratches over a
I WAS going to start reading your WAY too long response until I saw this:
(it's a fashion and drug culture not a music
culture stop deluding yourself-who the hell doesn't listen to music on
drugs!)
You're an idiot.
Rich.
Get Free
I WAS going to start reading your WAY too long response until I saw this:
(it's a fashion and drug culture not a music
culture stop deluding yourself-who the hell doesn't listen to music on
drugs!)
You're an idiot.
Rich.
Get Free
peter said:
Many of us who came up in the early days listened, observed, paid attention,
respected the people who had been before us and learned about the music and
the scene. Sadly, that's not always the case when you go to a rave these
days.
favorite quote i heard the one and only time i
I do think people look at the 'old days' with rose coloured specs. As I
recall it has always been the case that there were people on the scene who
were only in it for the most superficial reasons and who knew nothing about
the music, from 1988 (when I first discovered the music) right through 'til
okay-so we have been sitting tight in CA watching all these comments float in
and out of our mailbox concerning htis stupid toy-
we think the least we should do is not give it so much credit. Wouldn't we
rather see a toy than a complete rave enlightment on E! entertainment
television? E! now
oscillateX2 wrote
God's name were they advertising? A DJ Ken doll!!! Complete with a
turntable and mixer!!!
snip
As if all the DJ Wannabes from Oklahoma hanging around the Radisson pool at
WMC with their stripper girlfriends and their home-burned mix CD's wasn't
enough...
tsk tsk on a
So wot if it's a home burnt CD at least they are making music and trying.
Stripping is decent money, the notion of a living wage is an anethema in the
USA *spit* if you are talking about people more concerned with image than
music, say it.
you need to chillLIKE WHOA?!?!
occilate was
I totaly agree here, let's drop the egos that we have roaming around the
list and loosen up...
Emanuel
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, vidal vargas wrote:
So wot if it's a home burnt CD at least they are making music and trying.
Stripping is decent money, the notion of a living wage is an anethema in
Gee, thanks for the scolding, Miss Emma from Australia. Nice sentiment in
the second paragraph, but why don't you save the pseudo-spiritual
gobbledegook for someone who cares... I've earned my right to criticize.
For the record, my sarcastic comment was based around 1) the acceleration of
So I'm watching Batman Beyond this afternoon (working from home has its
advantages) and a commercial came on and I about fell over and died. What in
God's name were they advertising? A DJ Ken doll!!! Complete with a
turntable and mixer!!!
Yes, now your little sister's Barbie can get down
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