Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-04 Thread yussel
on thsi whole tiesto tip... i happen to be reviewing his new cd right now, and to my considerable suprise, track 2 definately sounds like somethign i can picture a lot of 313 DJs playing, sans the little breakdown in the middle. sean's track is coming up next. should be intersting. but if this i

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-04 Thread Michael Lees
hi again, certain american artists can only make like 2-300 bucks in Chicago while Adam Beyer, Surgeon come here to America and get paid 5000 bucks plus a 5 star plus business class airfare.. hmm, if we swap American/America - British/Britain and Adam Beyer - Rolando, Chicago- leeds, Nott

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-04 Thread Michael Lees
Hello 313, We all know who the only common enemy is in the USA. It's the UK crap trance dj's that have bled the USA dry. And why ? Because the sheep in the USA consume that crap. I think Fred sums it up best here, music isn't controlled by talent or originality it's publicity,exposure an

RE: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-04 Thread Ken Odeluga
> >SO if anyone happens to know MLWTTKC or Moroder, might want to drop them a >line. Seems like folks are getting straight ripped off. Or maybe these >fools have their heads so far up their own a**es that they don't know what >'written' means. > Please in all seriousness, if anyone knows em, do it

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think he's *everywhere* period. ;( > F**king Tiesto!!! > Pisses me off that he's everywhere in the US right now. MTV is crazy for him > apparently. I went to a bar last night and they had one of his videos on the > big screen. a couple months back I'm flipping through the TV channels and > come

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread marina pure sonik
P.S. Aww hold up...the real question is why you got to say you 'love black people"? As if you don't or sumthin'. = ) On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 05:54 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: p.s. "I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!" andythepo

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread marina pure sonik
ROFL I knew someone will say that. It was given to me, man. Its a pretty interesting dvd in terms of how the two scenes compare besides the same ole' "I hate Trance" mantra. Its not all bad, there was a couple high points in it. Tiesto played a couple good tracksI thought: Literon/Speedy J

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: marina pure sonik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Hey Sean, > >Funny you mention this because I got this dvd of a Tiesto concert and >it does have that 'Traffic' track you spoke about and it does give you >credit. I've been wanting to

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread marina pure sonik
Hey Sean, Funny you mention this because I got this dvd of a Tiesto concert and it does have that 'Traffic' track you spoke about and it does give you credit. I've been wanting to ask you about it but didn't for fear of flamebait! LOL = ) Its called Tiesto in Concert: May 10th 2003 at the

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread yussel
don't feel too bad sean. i was reviewing the new dj irene mix yesterday (and y'all though my job was nothing but fun) and i notice that her 'versions' of "Sex on Wheelz" and "Da Chase" are credited in the liner notes as 'written and produced by G.Cesteno' (Irenes production partner). WRITTEN!!??

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread SeanDeason©
F**king Tiesto!!! Pisses me off that he's everywhere in the US right now. MTV is crazy for him apparently. I went to a bar last night and they had one of his videos on the big screen. a couple months back I'm flipping through the TV channels and come across the Ultraschall (sp?) Pay Per View concer

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread Jason Brunton
Hey- most of those Trance guys are Dutch- ask KJ!!:) Jason On 2 Oct 2004, at 02:14, FRED giannelli wrote: guys, guys, guys stop the madness. We all know who the only common enemy is in the USA. It's the UK crap trance dj's that have bled the USA dry. And why ? Because the sheep in

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread atomly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > and dissing other foreign djs because of your own sour grapes (beyer > and surgeon) doesn't help your argument. especially considering that > both, in my professional experience, were very good to work with. Yeah, I really think the whole problem started because you picked two

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread yussel
i see your point fred, although i've accepted bad music as a fact of american life. boston is the same in LA, and also what i've seen in big clubs in SF, NYC and DC, that a major portion of the crowd is foreign anyways. they're just doing in the us what they grew up doing in europe, where djs are

RE: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread yussel
ok, so if mani had issues with the bahavior of some of his artists then he had every right to let them go. (did he? you make it sound like maybe not, which means he dropped his foreign roster because of what some other people did, i'm confused.) but dissing foreign djs because of this is inappropri

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread FRED giannelli
guys, guys, guys stop the madness. We all know who the only common enemy is in the USA. It's the UK crap trance dj's that have bled the USA dry. And why ? Because the sheep in the USA consume that crap. In Boston it's the Euro students that seem richer than any of the natives that have the

RE: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread Renegade808
Yea you are right josh he has droped a good chunk of his european roster...all but the Advent and Steve Rachmad...but he is no longer working on spending time w/ artist relationship like Rino Cerrone Mark Antonio Oxia Hardfloor and a few others but you see there is NO sour grapes anywhere. Mani s

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread yussel
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Renegade808 wrote: brother, i haven't even begun to attack you. > once again josh you never seem to disapointyou can have your opinions > all you want who cares so can everyone else but this is how mani chooses > to conduct his agency and he has the support of alot of p

RE: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread yussel
if Mani had a roster full of working European DJs and one day woke up and said, 'These guys don't need me, I'm going to put my efforts into bringing up some American talent' then i would respect that decision. But that doesn't seem to be what's he's done at all. He seems to be working basically the

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread Renegade808
once again josh you never seem to disapointyou can have your opinions all you want who cares so can everyone else but this is how mani chooses to conduct his agency and he has the support of alot of people (maybe not on this list). i think its funny you choose to attack me but if thats how you

RE: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
This is the feeling I got from it. He's acting with the best intent, and isn't explicitly anti-European, but wants to keep things at home in order to do right by the scenes that could use more American influence than they've had in the past. Thing is, it seems weird to single out just a couple of E

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-01 Thread David Powers
Michael, Thank you very much for this post. I think the 313 Europeans on here really misconstrued Mani's post and took it in the worst light possible. I feel you offered a very clear explanation of the situation, and the fact that this isn't a dis to Europeans at all. Our US scenes are defi

Re: (313) US vs. EU crap....

2004-10-01 Thread yussel
> > Basically what mani was expressing in his email to the list is that > Obs/Ear management has represented a good amount of techno artists from > Europe in past years as well as thrown a bunch of parties in Chicago, and > what he is saying is that he has made a mistake in the artist's he chose >