They all do...
It depends on which holes you use for the bolts.
From: Lincs_chel
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Basic Tower Mount 6 Inch - 800-M-TOW-6
Hi Chuck;
Which one is correct or which one would be received if ordered
and it doesn't *always* just use that one for a variety of reasons.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Thursday, January
Move one of the bolts to the curved slot?
From: AF On Behalf Of Lincs_chel
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Basic Tower Mount 6 Inch - 800-M-TOW-6
Hi Chuck;
Which one is correct or which one would be received if ordered with
Hi Chuck;
Which one is correct or which one would be received if ordered with this
P/N: 800-M-TOW-6?
* https://www.mccowntech.com/product/basic-tower-mount-6-inch/
o
o This one appears not to have any down/up tile capability. Though
the specs says that it does.
*
Some vendors (esp with LTE) allow you to type in a frequency rather than
pick from a list. It was up to the operator to stay compliant. In an
unlicensed (or lightly licensed) band the temptation will always be
there to avoid interference by moving to one of those nice quiet
channels that
Hi Matt;
Curious as to why purchase and then 'discard' a bunch of the ePMP 3000
units? In particular, this Cambium series. Just seems odd that
Cambium have not been able to assist and provide a reasonable working
solution (until a permanent fix I guess) can be done. I have found
I would imagine so... I wonder how long Hughes and Viasat will be able to
survive...
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 7:25 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> I would bet that the lion's share of SpaceX's internet business will be at
> their expense as well. No doubt a few percent
I would bet that the lion's share of SpaceX's internet business will be at
their expense as well. No doubt a few percent is a lot of money, I just
don't believe it will have a major impact on a majority of providers'
customer bases.
On Thursday, January 23, 2020, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Hughes
According to the Notice of Violation, they were found to be operating on
3723 - 3732 MHz which is a clear violation of 1.903 and you’re right that
this is how they got caught. No question that had they not interfered with
the ground station, this wouldn’t have come up. Once the FCC finds one
Hughes and Viasat are minor players and they still make billions. Just
sayin.
On 1/23/2020 8:11 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I think we're saying similar things differently. Taking the human
species to space / interplanetary is his real goal, not serving a
small percentage of internet customers
I think we're saying similar things differently. Taking the human species
to space / interplanetary is his real goal, not serving a small percentage
of internet customers who either have some niche use or are too rural to
have options other than satellite or slow and/or expensive terrestrial
There seem to be 2 issues, one is unregistered locations which seems kind of
petty, the other is transmitting above 3.7 GHz. I’m going to assume the second
one got them in trouble and led to finding the first one?
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:43 PM
The 320 you could go to at least 3695 on 10mhz. Plus the oob so if it was
low 3700. But jerkoffs like that that don't even make a cursory check for
earth stations you never know what they've done.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 5:03 PM wrote:
> Jamming C band CATV...
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:*
They want 5 to 10 Gbps of peak traffic to your ASN before they will give
you a box. Matt, I know you are too small to have a Netflix cache on your
network so you must be referencing your upstream provider has one.
You're correct that the IP's shouldn't change often from the box but there
is still
I think they don't like providing them anymore due to maintenance and
hardware costs. We have one in SLC due to no Netflix peering available,
most major cities they are on the local IX or you can get a PNI with them.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office:
Jamming C band CATV...
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement actions - unauthorized operation in 3650 -
3700 MHz band
It's interesting that the signal they were interfering with was in the
I dunno, we got one years ago. Just asked for it.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
You need enough traffic to justify it, they are not easy to get. You would be
better off going to an IX where
It's interesting that the signal they were interfering with was in the
3700-4200mhz band. I wonder what they were doing...
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:24 PM Steve Jones
wrote:
> Isnt that the first 3ghz one?
>
> I wish that more people had been nailed, its said other "license" holders
> had no
You need enough traffic to justify it, they are not easy to get. You would
be better off going to an IX where they exist.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:47 PM wrote:
> Can't you get a netflix box from netflix?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020
Exactly. And then you always know the IP of Netflix traffic on your network.
> On Jan 23, 2020, at 5:47 PM, wrote:
>
> Can't you get a netflix box from netflix?
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Can't you get a netflix box from netflix?
-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Darin Steffl
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
We have a Netflix CDN... I'm literally trying to get a MikroTik
consultant who
We have a Netflix CDN... I'm literally trying to get a MikroTik
consultant who can write a simple queue.
I'm finally just giving up on a consultant and just need to find the
time to do it myself.
It's really not that hard... you know the IPs for your Netflix CDN... it
doesn't change. You
Pretty sure some of them are playing magic cards.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam
You have to be CPI certified to input CBRS data into the SAS. Basically says
youre liable for inaccurate
You have to be CPI certified to input CBRS data into the SAS. Basically
says youre liable for inaccurate parameters. there are like 12 primary
parameters that have to be put in. Then the sas administrators run it
through radio mobile after hours and compare notes to decide whether you
are
Isnt that the first 3ghz one?
I wish that more people had been nailed, its said other "license" holders
had no recourse, it took a fixed station to be interfered with
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:35 PM Tim Hardy wrote:
> BREVARD WIRELESS, INC. DBA FLORIDA HIGH SPEED INTERNET, LICENSEE OF
>
Certified Professional Installer
On 1/23/2020 5:11 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
OK, I just gotta ask: this CPI of which you speak must not be
Customer Proprietary Information...
?
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:04 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*
OK, I just gotta ask: this CPI of which you speak must not be Customer
Proprietary Information...
?
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam
I just took the commsearch exam through proctoru. Its
I just took the commsearch exam through proctoru. Its pretty easy exam, i
missed one, it takes like ten minutes
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 8:24 PM Eric Nielsen wrote:
> Online is easier. You can study at your leisure, but all exams are
> proctored.
> Comsearch is still pushing their promotion,
Matt,
Caching is something from the 90's unless it's with a direct CDN provider
like Akamai or Netflix. If you're trying to do this yourself without having
an appliance or server farm from a CDN, you're dreaming. This is why you
won't find a Mikrotik consultant that can do the job for you.
Gone
that would be the racket, be a sales guy for an equipment vendor, sell the
crap out of cbrs gear to overlapping competitors to get them good and
stuck. then turn up your PAL and offer to lease it to them so they dont
lose customers
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:35 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> I don't
I will have to go look at the final rules to see what happened, I forget
exactly. The original proposal required a new auction every three years.
O’Rielly hated that and managed to get his way with 10 year terms and wanted
substantial service requirements. WISPA pushed back hard on what
You lose the filtering, but you gain 256QAM, and theoretically, a bit of a
performance gain. We've mostly been using them to upgrade 1000/2000 Lite
APs that are near capacity, since they don't cost much more than an upgrade
license (assuming we're working on the tower anyway, obviously).
On Thu,
I don't see why you would even need to install equipment to squat on the
spectrum. What's to stop you from buying the PAL and sitting on it until
there's enough congestion in GAA that somebody wants it? it doesn't matter
if somebody is already using it as GAA... once you turn on your stuff using
you have to log into the netflix account and set it off auto for each sub
account
ours was 512k max. maybe resolution on a tv would have been pixelated we
did our verifications from PC
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:25 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> On 1/23/2020 4:23 PM, Matt Hoppes
BREVARD WIRELESS, INC. DBA FLORIDA HIGH SPEED INTERNET, LICENSEE OF STATION
WQMJ660. Brevard Wireless, Inc. dba Florida High Speed Internet agrees to
$16,000 settlement and compliance plan resolving investigation into
unauthorized operation in the 3650-3700MHz band . Action by: Deputy Chief,
we arent doing the Ls because as best I can tell theyre pretty much a 2k AP
without intelligent filtering. seemed like a net loss to me
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> Probably. and I suppose the reason for not supporting both, like the 1000
> was cost.
>
> On Thu, Jan
Interesting.
On 1/23/2020 4:23 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
The cell carriers have caching servers installed so they can
manipulate the traffic. We are working on doing something similar...
but so far every MikroTik consultant I've hired has screwed me on this.
On 1/23/20 4:21 PM, Adam Moffett
Probably. and I suppose the reason for not supporting both, like the 1000
was cost.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:18 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> With the 3000L at 29V you can power it from an SM with an Aux port. I'm
> guessing that's the underlying reason.
>
>
> On 1/23/2020 4:12 PM, Mathew Howard
The cell carriers have caching servers installed so they can manipulate
the traffic. We are working on doing something similar... but so far
every MikroTik consultant I've hired has screwed me on this.
On 1/23/20 4:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
If I recall correctly, they have lower quality
If I recall correctly, they have lower quality levels for mobile users
on 4G. I wonder how they know you're mobile and whether you can trick
the system into counting your user as mobile.
On 1/23/2020 4:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, last I looked that's what they said the lowest quality
Agreed...
On 1/23/20 4:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, last I looked that's what they said the lowest quality needed. A
few years back I did some testing with various speeds, and I think I got
down to somewhere around 500k before Netflix would break. But even then,
the picture quality was
Yeah, last I looked that's what they said the lowest quality needed. A few
years back I did some testing with various speeds, and I think I got down
to somewhere around 500k before Netflix would break. But even then, the
picture quality was getting pretty ugly.
But seriously... if Netflix
With the 3000L at 29V you can power it from an SM with an Aux port. I'm
guessing that's the underlying reason.
On 1/23/2020 4:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That must've been an early spec sheet... it also say 802.3at
compliant, which is also not so... but both of those things are true
for the
I'm pretty sure the lowest quality level on Netflix needs 0.7 mbps. If
your rule ended up giving them 256k+512k then it would have worked.
On 1/23/2020 4:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Way back in the day, when powercode had the old type queue, we built
our basic one to buffer at 512 long enough
That must've been an early spec sheet... it also say 802.3at compliant,
which is also not so... but both of those things are true for the 3000.
Yeah, 24v is nice sometimes, but it would've been a lot nicer if it just
worked on 22-56v, like the ePMP 1000. It's also annoying that the 3000 is
48v
Yup.
On 1/23/2020 4:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Back in the dial up days my kids would “stream” aka buffer aka
download movies for days and days in order to get them.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:57 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
Way back in the day, when powercode had the old type queue, we built our
basic one to buffer at 512 long enough to maintain a 2 hour sd stream at
256k with periodic 512k bucket refills. so really it was 512k effectively.
It may very vell be that expectations of "standard" definition were
different
Back in the dial up days my kids would “stream” aka buffer aka download movies
for days and days in order to get them.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:57 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future
I don’t remember ever being able to stream
I don’t remember ever being able to stream Netflix on 256K. 1M maybe, and 1.5M
still gives you decent SD. You’re going to need at least 2.5M though for HD.
So that’s one part of the answer is HD. Some streaming services, like DirecTV
On Demand, don’t have adaptive video quality and want a
Adam,
Yes, I would be scared away too if it was $1 to $6 per month for the
management but it's much nicer than that at $0.51 per month on average.
Josh, You may feel like a white knight by not raising prices but you're
leaving money on the table, guaranteed. If you were a business person, you
I would hope there is something prohibiting an operator from using the
WISP/Small operator credit to bid on 4 PAL, then turn around and lease it
all to a cellco
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:40 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
>
If there were more spectrum, that would make sense. but I watch the
communications in the industry. people planning around having massive
channel size available in a market saturated with free CAF funds and
overbuilds. Im afraid for some of these guys, dumping massive amounts of
debt into their
AnnualI must have misunderstood the Calix pricing.
On 1/23/2020 3:13 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Guys, raise your prices. Calix Cloud for us is $6.15 per sub annually
for the management platform. Very affordable. Preseem is $0.50 per
month and Azotel is $1.25 per month. So about $2.50 per
There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
equipment just so they can demonstrate that they're using it while they
find a buyer. They paid for much more expensive equipment than a 3.5ghz AP.
Maybe someone squats all the PAL's in a market until Select Spectrum
we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I started 15 or so
years ago, we were just moving off a handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb
circuit backhauling that was nothing. Now we have two gig circuits on
separate parts of our network, and we are a tiny WISP in podunk USA.. We
dont
https://youtu.be/98PqA_v54Mw
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 11:55 AM Robert wrote:
> Yeah, feeding the addiction, but more importantly, as the youtuber says
> at the end, youtube is trying to go the netflix way, when, IMNSHO, the
> real value and future of reality tv is real youtubers.. So we should
>
While I agree with the services, I'm not sure I agree with doing a price
increase on customers. We can proudly say we have not increased our prices
since 2006.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:14 PM Darin
Guys, raise your prices. Calix Cloud for us is $6.15 per sub annually for
the management platform. Very affordable. Preseem is $0.50 per month and
Azotel is $1.25 per month. So about $2.50 per month and we have killer
tools that save us time and money. We make way more more money than what
these
If you buy it but don’t operate in it then the spectrum stays as GAA which
anyone can use.
I don’t see it as being a good speculative investment play given that it
returns to GAA unless you are actually using it. In a metro area it might make
sense from an investment perspective but in a
FWIW my GPON ONT is an 844G. It's the GPON interface, wired interface
(remember those?), and WiFi all in one part. You can use their managed
services, too, but I'm not that far along myself.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu,
There seems to be a trend for the router manufacturers to build in an automatic
speed test, and then customers call with no problem to report except their
router says their Internet sucks. I think someone already posted the next step
is for the router to robocall the ISP and open a ticket.
"Elon started it as a project to raise money, yes. Morgan Stanley is up
valuing it because they don't understand technology. This project is not
even close to spacex's purpose for existing. If it disappeared it would not
have any real effect on their overall mission."
This isn't really true.
I think I was told anywhere from $1-$5/sub depending on what options you
want on the management software. It does look pretty badass, but it's
tough to give every vendor a monthly cut.
CRM + Preseem + Calix + Etc. == Where's the money for me?
-Adam
On 1/23/2020 1:29 PM, Jason McKemie
Leave it to the FCC to screw it up for the little guys.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:42 PM Steve Jones
wrote:
> You can lease it out, so I doubt it
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there not going to be a requirement that the
You can lease it out, so I doubt it
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the
> spectrum actually utilize it? If not, that's dumb.
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steve
Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the
spectrum actually utilize it? If not, that's dumb.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steve Jones
wrote:
> Investors are who will be taking the spectrum. HUGE opportunity.
> Commscope is putting together a guidance
> I know
What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into some
options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty proud
of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense for
the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now.
I'm
The way I look at it, customer's think any wifi stuff is our problem
anyway, andwith managed wifi, at least we're getting paid something to deal
with it. Yeah, you can tell them that it's not your problem, but best case
you waste a bunch of time explaining why it isn't, and worst case, they
insist
Wi-Fi soup like interference??
We split the bands so customers have a 2G and 5G option and we tell them if
they want good wifi with fast speeds, connect their stuff to 5G. If the
signal is weak to their device, we tell them they need a mesh.
In most towns we serve, 2.4 is trashed so we're very
Managed Router: We do, but then the wifi soup becomes "my problem", how
do you handle that?
On 1/23/20 12:46 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Guys,
Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and
we include the first router free in all our plans.
Makes a huge difference.
Guys,
Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we
include the first router free in all our plans.
Makes a huge difference.
Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel
away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that
I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue.
WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's
so bad it's just not fixable.
I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our service,
use at your own risk"... but of course, I can't
Im poor, so I have to do above ground. I put the first one up about 6 or 7
years ago. I will tell you http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html is
your friend. Saltwater is substantially less maintenance, and less problems
with womens hair, sand filter is a must. Every couple years I have to dig a
Investors are who will be taking the spectrum. HUGE opportunity.
Commscope is putting together a guidance
I know we will get the credits toward the auction, but I simply dont see us
being able to outbid investors.
unless your in cook county
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:51 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
I did the commscope training yesterday, test is this afternoon. It was
astoundingly simple stuff. The Cambium CBRS class as more detailed than CPI
training. I think the commscope discount is expired as of jan 1, but you
could probably talk them into it. We currently are just certifying me at
cost,
Anybody know if the speedtest built into the Google and Nest WiFi mesh
routers use the same M-Lab speedtest as the one a Google search sends you
to? Their FAQ seems to indicate it is different and tests to Youtube
servers.
Apparently they have a feature where customers can set it up to
They have a lot of antennas that are the tri-sector-in-a-can (some with up
to 18 connectors on the bottom.. how?!?) so I'd imagine that it's an array
of patches with good design.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:18 AM wrote:
> Interesting antenna. Wish someone would open one up and show me what is
>
I have one of their 3.65 omnis and while expensive and a bit of a beast, it
seems to perform well, at least empirically.
We’ve never been happy with the 5 GHz omnis on the market, seems like a lot of
variation with azimuth, and H not matching V, I think several vendors resell
the same
Interesting antenna. Wish someone would open one up and show me what is in
there. The H pattern is very circular so it is not an array of patches I don’t
think. I dunno, maybe it is.
I had an array of patches wrapped around a foam core for doing this about 10
years ago. Don’t recall why
FYI There are more of these available.
-- Forwarded message -
From: Colin Stanners
Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 6:12 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Limited run of AW3464 900mhz dual-slant omnis actually
available
To:
For those who can fit some in their network/business plan, a limited run
EP S16 can also supply 48V. We use it to power ePMP 2K sectors @ 48V on
lots of sites.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:45 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> And yes the 3000L is made for 24V power supplies. This turns out to be
> convenient if you want to power them with a Ubiquiti Edgepoint S16. Which
> I
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