Re: [AFMUG] Ciena 3930 with DC psu

2016-01-14 Thread Paul Stewart
170-0041-900 but make sure you confirm that … pulling that off of really old information Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 5:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Ciena 3930 with DC psu Anyone have a 3900 type chas

[AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Last night walking from hotel to pizza hut I decided to walk in snow piled up on side of parking lot with my cool boots.. whoosh went I.elbow and butt broke fall...hands in pocket. Shoulder sore and ego bruised.

Re: [AFMUG] Terminating cable at the base of the tower

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh nice!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 14, 2016 1:57 AM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > http://www.popnwork.com > > On Wednesday, January 13, 2016, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Link to the tent? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Cruel taunting... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:31 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio Chicano Cook out.marinate steaks in soy sauce and beermesquite firewood... cold beer...clean onion cut in 4 pieces...butter and cover in foil... cook slowly in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Ty Featherling
That is the kind of day I had yesterday; pinched my finger in a gate, banged my elbow on a door frame trying to get out of my jacket, banged my shin on the trailer hitch on my truck, slipped off a wrench and about broke a bone on the back of my hand, then got home and tripped over a box at home (we

Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio

2016-01-14 Thread Simon Westlake
Maybe we need to change the state for the next AF! On 1/14/2016 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Party at Jaime’s I can bring some Tecate, but I will probably bring some O’Douels for myself. *From:* Simon Westlake *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:37 PM *To:* af@a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hope you don’t get bursitis from whacking your elbow. Butts have better padding. Certain famous people more than others. From: Ty Featherling Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie That is the kind of day I had yesterday; pinched my finge

Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Party at Jaime’s I can bring some Tecate, but I will probably bring some O’Douels for myself. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio It's on my bucket list, hopefully I find my way down there before I need to fulfill it! I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Don’t go breaking the internet on us... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie Hope you don’t get bursitis from whacking your elbow. Butts have better padding. Certain famous people more than others. From: Ty Featherling

Re: [AFMUG] Gige Sync Injector CMM sync type?

2016-01-14 Thread Brian Sullivan
We see watchdog resets increasing with this latest cold snap. Not all AP's either. How often are your AP's watchdog resetting? On 1/13/2016 9:02 PM, George Skorup wrote: I run into this with the 450's goddamn on-board GPS all the time. Because watchdog resets. And then 9 times out of 10, Auto

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Look into VRF. On Jan 14, 2016 10:52 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > We have a customer who has two connections to us > Their firewall eth0 connects to ether4 with a /29 and their eth1 connects > to ether5 > They have a 3rd party 10mb fiber circuit on ether1 that terminates in our > NOC for

[AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We have a customer who has two connections to us Their firewall eth0 connects to ether4 with a /29 and their eth1 connects to ether5 They have a 3rd party 10mb fiber circuit on ether1 that terminates in our NOC for the /29 traffic and the ether2 connects to our wireless network for their /30 the /

[AFMUG] 900 450i power

2016-01-14 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Just got my 900 450i stuff in for testing. This is going into a DC only site with both 12v and 24v supply. I'm thinking the tycon TP-DCDC-2448GD-HP should work being it put out 56v 802.3at. Just want to get a second or third opinion. -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@ma

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ehhh correction. I think you could do what you wanted with VRF, but you actually could likely get by with policy based routing (PBR) so the routing table was aware of both interfaces. As ugly as PBR is in most cases, it might be a bit cleaner here. On Jan 14, 2016 11:00 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 900 450i power

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
That should work and preserve gigabit capability. I assume you don't need sync-over-power. Remember, 450i does not have internal GPS. -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:00 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] 900 450i power Just

Re: [AFMUG] Gige Sync Injector CMM sync type?

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
Same. Not all APs. Happens on 5GHz, 3.6GHz and the one 2.4GHz AP we have up. Some once or twice a week, others every day or two. On 1/14/2016 10:52 AM, Brian Sullivan wrote: We see watchdog resets increasing with this latest cold snap. Not all AP's either. How often are your AP's watchdog res

Re: [AFMUG] 900 450i power

2016-01-14 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Ken, good point forgot I was going to hook this up to a packet flux and I just need to supply power to the packet flux. So now all I need is a simple 24v to 48v or 56v DC/DC. May have one of those around here already. That's why I asked for a second opinion. -- Best regards, Mark

[AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
I've had this 13.7 mile link running v2.5, 5.1 band, 20MHz, non-GPS radios for 110 days without any issues. I switched the slave scan to include 40MHz and then moved the master to 40MHz width the other day. Since then it appears the slave has been rebooting. However this morning, the link wasn'

Re: [AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Put the firmware on it anyway IMO. Is the slave side losing uptime or just losing association? Other gear on the tower staying powered? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 14, 2016 12:49 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I've had thi

Re: [AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread Sam Lambie
Are you sure its a clean 40 mhz channel? Sounds like interference to me... Maybe the distance is too great for the 40mhz band and it freaking out the radios. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Put the firmware on it anyway IMO. > > Is the slave side losing uptime or just los

Re: [AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait you're in 2.5? I think you may be seeing the bug I had. Fixed for me now... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 14, 2016 12:49 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I've had this 13.7 mile link running v2.5, 5.1 band, 20MHz, non-GPS

Re: [AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
Well, I'm not sure what happened this morning. Just up and quit passing traffic and monitoring reported the slave down. My AP/master graph shows 1 registered SM during that window. Then about two hours later it just came back up with no intervention. This is not what normally happens though. A

Re: [AFMUG] ePTP slave crashing

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
Yes, it was on 2.5. 20MHz worked fine. Only started doing this after I switched the link to 40MHz. Just put 2.6 on both ends a 1/2hr ago. I hope that's all it is because I need the throughput. On 1/14/2016 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wait you're in 2.5? I think you may be seeing the bug I

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Peter Kranz
>> Does that include transport costs or local loop? These are priced from an on-net data center.. you would be responsible for transport. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
^ This. With transport (they installed a brand new Fujitsu wave demarc for us) I think we are at ~$6,800/mo on one of our 10Gbps feeds, which includes transport. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: >>> Does that include transport costs or local loop? > > These are priced from an

Re: [AFMUG] Terminating cable at the base of the tower

2016-01-14 Thread David
This is a good way also. We use them on rhon towers especially. On 01/13/2016 01:00 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I would just get those rubber cable entry grommets that clamp onto a piece of conduit. I'm afraid I don't know the proper name of it. If you want to undo a cable gland in a tight place

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Sam Lambie
How come you are on an island and can provide such cheap bandwidth while we being in the USA (NM) can't do the same? Such a backasswards country we live in sometimes. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > hi guys! spent most of the weekend doing a website for our new mdu proj

[AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Christopher Gray
If I take over a network that has some 3.65 backhauls, can I transfer the 3.65 license, or will I need to replace those links with something else? Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Less distance to meet the fiber. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Sam Lambie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:13:31 PM Subject

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Jay Weekley
What Faisal said. We talked to him Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hit me off-list, and I will be happy to share on how to possibly reduce cost of IP Transit when in a Rural Area. :) Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Adam Moffett
PR has more people than New Mexico by far, and it's 1/50th the size. Plus you don't have Gino in NM. On 1/14/2016 2:28 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Less distance to meet the fiber. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
probably not worth it to transfer, just get your own and reregister, On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > If I take over a network that has some 3.65 backhauls, can I transfer the > 3.65 license, or will I need to replace those links with someth

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Matt
> With transport (they installed a brand new Fujitsu wave demarc for us) > I think we are at ~$6,800/mo on one of our 10Gbps feeds, which > includes transport. Who are you getting transport from?

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Then he loses grandfather status on those links... On Jan 14, 2016 1:33 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > probably not worth it to transfer, just get your own and reregister, > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Christopher Gray < > cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > >> If I take over a netw

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Jay Weekley
He may be buying a lot of it as well. Mike Hammett wrote: Less distance to meet the fiber. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Transport is via CenturyLink for Cogent, and Bluebird for HE. On Jan 14, 2016 1:33 PM, "Matt" wrote: > > With transport (they installed a brand new Fujitsu wave demarc for us) > > I think we are at ~$6,800/mo on one of our 10Gbps feeds, which > > includes transport. > > Who are you getting transp

[AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Anything at all? I'd love to hear any information on any testing, experimenting or deployment done out in the field. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Glen Waldrop
and as I understand it means that 3.65 has to come down at that point. Wish they’d get that stuff settled. I need more capacity. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License? Then he loses grandfather status on thos

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Mike Hammett
That's going to b entirely dependent on who's in your area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:

Re: [AFMUG] Ciena 3930 with DC psu

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Are you just using these for customer demarc + performance assurance? What is the advantage of using these over other solutions, like a Calix E5, Juniper SRX 100, etc? How is the pricing? On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:52 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > Anyone have a 3900 type chassis with DC power supplies?

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
They are not issuing any new NN licenses, but there should be a way to transfer the existing one, if you are buying the company. Probably just a name change on the license, same as any Part 101 licenses they might have. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:36 PM To: af@afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Rick Harnish
I saw some 3.65 license transfers in the FCC Public Notice today. It can be done. Whether you need a telecom attorney to do it or not, I’m unsure about. I did find a 3.65 license for another operator to purchase recently. He does not get any grandfathering with it, but at least he has one no

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Works fine. We've used it on APs and CPE. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Anything at all? I'd love to hear any information on any testing, > experimenting or deployment done out in the field. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you share any details? What APs/CPEs? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Works fine. We've used it on APs and CPE. > > On Thu, Jan 14

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Ubnt Rockets, Nanobridge and Nanostations. No issues. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Can you share any details? What APs/CPEs? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:43

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Were the Ubnt devices acting as the AP or STA? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:03 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Ubnt Rockets, Nanobridge and Nanostations. No issues. >

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Jay Weekley
Is that to migrate from Ubiquiti to ePMP? Josh Luthman wrote: Were the Ubnt devices acting as the AP or STA? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:03 PM, can...@believewireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
That's the end goal, yes. In my experience, ePMP AP WiFi mode doesn't work at all. I haven't tried doing ePMP CPE on a WiFi device as I'd have to turn off Airmax, which I don't think I want to do even short term. At this point I'm running both the old and new APs in parallel moving customers slo

[AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Adam Moffett
I hate the assembly process on the Force110 dish. Did they make a replacement model at some point or did I only imagine it?

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Baird
The 5ghz Force 200 should be shipping at the end of this month. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I hate the assembly process on the Force110 dish. Did they make a > replacement model at some point or did I only imagine it? >

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Send me all your dishes, I have no problem assembling them =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I hate the assembly process on the Force110 dish. Did they make a > replacement m

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Adam Moffett
I just don't like the amount of force required to push the feed into the dish. I feel like I'm going to break it every time. I'm not too fond of those little clips that hold on the subreflector either. On 1/14/2016 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Send me all your dishes, I have no problem assem

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
My experience is that it works fine with NanoBridges... but it's completely non-functional with PowerBeams (5ghz - I haven't tried it at all with 2.4ghz). On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's the end goal, yes. In my experience, ePMP AP WiFi mode doesn't > work at all.

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I just give it a tap with a rubber hammer... seems to work fine, and I haven't broken any yet. They really aren't that bad to assemble after you've done a few, I timed myself awhile back, and I was able to assemble them in 5 minutes. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I just

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I had some issues with some production issues with some Force radios a while back. I sure let them know about it. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ad

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
Yes, some force is required to assemble the Force. :) On 1/14/2016 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I just give it a tap with a rubber hammer... seems to work fine, and I haven't broken any yet. They really aren't that bad to assemble after you've done a few, I timed myself awhile back, and I was

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Just use the Force. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:28 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Yes, some force is required to assemble the Force. :) > > On 1/14/2016 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I just give it a tap with a rubber hammer... seems to work fine, and I > haven't broken any yet. They really aren't

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread George Skorup
I hear you go to prison for that. On 1/14/2016 4:29 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Just use the Force. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:28 PM, George Skorup > wrote: Yes, some force is required to assemble the Force. :) On 1/14/2016 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I j

[AFMUG] CTM-Express quick question

2016-01-14 Thread Steve D
Is there any management of these devices? Got one in a corner of our network that's been running fine for years, but it appears to have a canopy POE going to it to power it I guess? Field tech is asking if we should patch a cable from the POE to our switch or just leave it. Only one of these in

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
What’s it cost? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:36 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel Fresh from China :) I tested it at two different customer's houses, and signal levels were consistently within 1db of the Cambium yagis. Not quite as c

Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Not if you use Quaaludes first. From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 assembly I hear you go to prison for that. On 1/14/2016 4:29 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Just use the Force. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Georg

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Steve D
Oh... very nice... good day to be checking the list... Care to share any details as to who makes it and how the cost compares to the yagi? Any testing dual slant vs h/v to see if the cambium was applying the same secret sauce that let's them do that with the 3.65 450i sm? (Not sure if this was b

Re: [AFMUG] The perfect antenna for your new 900 MHz 450

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, you can use two yagis. Not a huge spacing issue due to being opposite polarizations. I would make sure there is at least 12 inches between them. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 5:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The perfect antenna for your new 900 MHz

Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hopefully today goes smoothly... doing start ups for Wells in Borger 2 down 5 to go my part is 5 x 5 so far. On Jan 14, 2016 10:29 AM, losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Sore still and cold breeze not helping but pain subsiding On Jan 14, 2016 9:34 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Don’t go breaki

Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie

2016-01-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sore still and cold breeze not helping but pain subsiding On Jan 14, 2016 9:34 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Don’t go breaking the internet on us... > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:26 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Humble Pie > > Hope you don’t ge

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Are the short links? Looks like antenna is low On Jan 14, 2016 4:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > What’s it cost? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:36 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel > > Fresh from China :) > > I teste

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
This is the antenna: http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT915D12C-DP.htm The antennas themselves are pretty cheap - they charged me $41.61/each, but shipping was quite expensive (they sent them DHL - there are obviously cheaper ways). I suspect that if you ordered a large enough quantity to get a decent shi

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I think that link is only about a half mile... but it still probably should've been mounted higher - I didn't install it though, I had to just put it where the old antenna was. I'm guessing it was one of those customers that didn't want us touching his roof... On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 5:40 PM

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
...and how the link is quoted, priced, negotiated etc. I have seen quotes between $10,000 to $3500 for the same exact link, from the same provider, via two different 'sales' arms of the entity... Go Figure ! It is what can be best descried as a 'Fish Market' !. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread can...@believewireless.net
It's worked with us as both AP and CPE. ePMP connecting to Rocket M5 and Nanostation and Nanobridge connecting to ePMP AP. We are moving Ubnt to ePMP. Make sure you have the latest firmware. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > My experience is that it works fine with NanoBri

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I would have to have a large commitment to meet that price for a slip on stinger version. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:58 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel This is the antenna: http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT915D12C-DP.htm The ante

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Slip on stinger would be way faster. Could you match the price? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 14, 2016 8:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I would have to have a large commitment to meet that price for a slip on > stinger vers

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes... a slip on stinger would be much nicer. On Jan 14, 2016 7:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Slip on stinger would be way faster. Could you match the price? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jan 14, 2016 8:31 PM, "

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Possibly. I have the mold for the cover. Back would be aluminum. Just need a nice pocket that slips over and interfaces with the radio. Does the radio come with cables? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with du

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone done ANY WiFi mode with ePMP???

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
As far as I can tell, it works fine with the ubnt XM radios, but I couldn't get it to work at all with any of the XW radios... they connected to the AP, but I couldn't get them to pass any data. I didn't try connecting an ePMP client to an XW AP though. On Jan 14, 2016 7:30 PM, "can...@believewirel

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
No, they don't come with cables - those are permanently attached to the Cambium yagis. On Jan 14, 2016 7:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Possibly. I have the mold for the cover. Back would be aluminum. Just > need a nice pocket that slips over and interfaces with the radio. Does > the radio c

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Cables and connectors are not cheap when manufacturing. PITA. Hmmm. SMA on the radio? Did the chinese antenna come with cables? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:44 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel No, they don't come with cables - t

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Would it be cheaper to have N connectors or jumpers? Keep in mind the N are on top of the SM. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 14, 2016 8:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Possibly. I have the mold for the cover. Back would be

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, SMA on the radio. No, those antennas didn't come with cables, I'm guessing they can supply cables, but I didn't think to ask... the antennas appear to be intended to use with ubnt Rockets (they have a holder for one built on), which would use the same connectors. On Jan 14, 2016 7:50 PM, "Chu

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
If it is SMA on the radio, I could have flying leads coming out of the back of the antenna thereby dispensing with a couple of connectors. How much did the cables cost you? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:56 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual po

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
SMA on top of SM. Also, how is slip-on going to work, unless you have a way of slipping onto the SMA connectors inside the “pocket” and not needing cables? The old slip-on 900 Stingers worked with an SM that had pigtails coming out the bottom, not SMA on the top. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Th

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, it would have to be some kind of C shaped claw attachment. This is one radio I don’t have so I can’t really brainstorm too much. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel SMA on top of SM. A

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't know off hand what the cables cost, those were some I already had. I think I've gotten them for $3-5 each in the past. On Jan 14, 2016 8:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > If it is SMA on the radio, I could have flying leads coming out of the > back of the antenna thereby dispensing with a

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im having a hard time grasping ospf filters Is there a way to announce the /29 out ether1 at a lower cost the i announce on ether2 and announce the /30 out ether2 at a lower cost than ether1? That way the rest of the network uses the preferred interface to route each in except in the case of fail

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
The blue Mikrotik ones are ~ $8, but those are SMA to SMA. And without the spark plug boots. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:20 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel I don't know off hand what the cables cost, those were some I already h

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Also to make a stinger work you will need a way to hang the SM and clamp it tight to a pole. Right now the only way to mount / hang an SM is to snap it onto the bracket on the yagi. Obviously with a panel like that we can come up with something to hang the SM but if the stinger is going to rely

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I found some N male to rpsma at Streakwave for $4. On Jan 14, 2016 9:05 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > The blue Mikrotik ones are ~ $8, but those are SMA to SMA. And without > the spark plug boots. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:20 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
It looks to me like you can use a hose clamp to mount the SM, but it will not be spaced away from the pole nearly as much as original Canopy. From: Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel Also to mak

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
It doesn’t seem like you could buy the materials to make such a cable for $4, then there’s the labor. How do they do it? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:17 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel I found some N male to rpsma at Streakwave

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
BFM On Jan 14, 2016 9:24 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > It doesn’t seem like you could buy the materials to make such a cable for > $4, then there’s the labor. How do they do it? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:17 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450

Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio

2016-01-14 Thread Sean Heskett
i vote for Colorado...right next door to Utah and it's really green ;-) oh and we have beer! -Sean On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Maybe we need to change the state for the next AF! > > > On 1/14/2016 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Party at Jaime’s > I can bring so

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

2016-01-14 Thread Jon Langeler
In China materials and labor are free. Just got to pay for shipping Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > It doesn’t seem like you could buy the materials to make such a cable for $4, > then there’s the labor. How do they do it? > >

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Use PBR http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/09/mikrotik-policy-routing-implementation-example/ On Jan 14, 2016 8:51 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Im having a hard time grasping ospf filters > > Is there a way to announce the /29 out ether1 at a lower cost the i > announce on ether2 and announ

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread Justin Wilson
+1 for policy based routing. It takes some scripts to utilize it in a redundant scenario. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman > On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:51 PM, That One Guy /sa

Re: [AFMUG] routing questions

2016-01-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Netwatch works well, or at least has for me in the past. Use a script to change path weight if an upstream IP becomes unreachable. On Jan 14, 2016 10:03 PM, "Justin Wilson" wrote: > +1 for policy based routing. It takes some scripts to utilize it in a > redundant scenario. > > Justin Wilson > j.

[AFMUG] Notes: Latest FreePBX+Asterisk on Debian Stretch (testing) amd64

2016-01-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For those with a lot of debian experience, many people have noticed that the "testing" branch is actually a lot more stable than described. Debian "stable" is very conservative and designed to have nothing break. I even know people who run their desktop workstation as 'sid'. If you're adventurous

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of Mikrotik for routers. There's a myriad of Cisco routers available with 12 to 20 SFP-based GbE interfacess (used/refurb) that are just as capable, if somewhat bigger and hotter, that run very stable versions of IOS. It's totally unaccep

Re: [AFMUG] Transfer 3.65 License?

2016-01-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Did you acquire the corporate entity that originally created and holds the licenses? If so, keep them as they are... On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > If I take over a network that has some 3.65 backhauls, can I transfer the > 3.65 license,

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-14 Thread Rory Conaway
I understand. However, we have determined this isn’t a Mikrotik issue. The Edgerouter we put in worked for 24 hours and then now has the same problem again. We have a group call tomorrow with Level 4 while onsite to do testing. It’s the dangest thing I’ve seen. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bou

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Reading again it sounds like a DOCSIS problem. Without logging into the CMTS and looking at all the parameters for the modem in question troubleshooting may be difficult or impossible. You may see the same results if you leave a Linux-based laptop, some old Thinkpad with a proper Intel chipset 1000

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