Re: [AFMUG] married-male seeking internet service

2016-03-01 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
There was a WHOLE LOT more to it than that Bill. It's a long and rather ugly story. The great part is, out of the Part-15 ashes, we got WISPA! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:27 PM, Bill Pr

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Um, yeah.. let me get some of these! On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > The new version J0 syncinjectors which will be available shortly after > wispamerica (and may end up with a slightly different name to reflect their > more 'univ

Re: [AFMUG] PMP100 Advantage Codes

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Once Advantage came out, weren't non-Advantage APs anything deployed before then? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 29

[AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Daniel White
I’m sure I’ll get a cease and desist letter from Mike, but for those interested… The above e-mail was sent at 8:29am (MST) on July 7th, 2008. List went dark at 2:03pm. It came back the next morning… all was kinda okay at that point (as I recall server outages happened once in a while) but it w

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't think this is to much of a hijack. I just ordered 13 Ubiquiti camera that are of the 24 volt UVC variety. Does anyone know Of a midspan deal, either wall or rack mount, that will prevent me from having a huge gaggle of individual power inserters for these? On Tue, Mar 1, 2016, 6:47 AM Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik VPLS Problem?

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I wish Telco System's web site was better. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:11:10 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Do you already have a switch? If not, you could use any variety of a PoE switch. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I don't think this is to much of a hijack. I just ordered 13 Ubiquiti > camera that are of the 24 volt UVC variety. Does anyone know > Of a midspan deal, eithe

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
heh I didn't do anything with AFMUG until a couple years ago. (mainly because I didn't have anything to do with Canopy). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Daniel White" To: af@afmu

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org - I QUIT

2016-03-01 Thread Paul McCall
Just thinking… if its anybody’s turn to say “I quit!”, it probably is mine ☺ Seriously, it’s a joy to keep the listing going for Chuck and the rest of you. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 8:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
I do have a POE switch but the docs list the UVC cameras as 24 volt and not 802.3AF or AT compliant. I know the pro version is 48 volt AF compliant but I didn't order any of those, only the regular UVC version. I hope I didn't screw up. Are most people using the pro version? On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org - I QUIT

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
You had me for a second... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 1, 2016 8:30 AM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > Just thinking… if its anybody’s turn to say “I quit!”, it probably is mine > J > > > > Seriously, it’s a joy to keep the listin

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik VPLS Problem?

2016-03-01 Thread Gino Villarini
what info do you need? Sent from Outlook Mobile On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:09 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" wrote: I wish Telco System's web site was better. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Gino Villarini" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik VPLS Problem?

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
It's just hard to learn about their products in the current setup. Do they have a box that's an order of magnitude bigger? 4x40G or 4x100G and 8x10G? Hopefully in 1U or 2U. Hopefully light on power. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Broth

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was going for 6k a link, wow! Looking back.. it does look like the AF24 is still 3k per link, which I for some reason thought the AF24HD would be more cost competitive. Mimosa's links are in a great spot... I think the promise was sometime this month. On Mon, Fe

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait another few inches on the dish and they doubled the price??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was going for 6k a link, wow! Looking > back..

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah, the price tag on the 'HD' is steeep. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was going for 6k a link, wow! Looking > back.. it does look like the AF24 is still 3k per link, which I for some > reason thought the AF24HD would be more cost co

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Steve Utick
However, the HD is also gigabit full duplex as well, whereas the 24 is only 700 Meg full duplex. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Yeah, the price tag on the 'HD' is steeep. > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > >> Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably added another modulation on top. Old one was kind of crap, wasn't it? 64QAM? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Steve Utick wrote: > However, the HD is also gigabit full duplex as well, where

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL I wouldn't have said "kind of crap", but sure, the AF24 is 64QAM. The AF24HD is 256QAM. On Mar 1, 2016 8:27 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Probably added another modulation on top. Old one was kind of crap, > wasn't it? 64QAM? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 >

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Steve Utick
Yes, the 24 is 64QAM, and the HD is 256QAM. the 24 will do 64QAM at -66, but the HD requires a -60 to do 256QAM. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Probably added another modulation on top. Old one was kind of crap, > wasn't it? 64QAM? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I want to say the old Blackberries could do 64QAM (802.11n)? AF5x can do 1024QAM - that's just AMAZING!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > LOL I wouldn't have said "kind of cra

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hilarious. Yeah Charles, pay your damn bill! ;) That guy could run as Trump's VP. On Mar 1, 2016 7:05 AM, "Daniel White" wrote: > I’m sure I’ll get a cease and desist letter from Mike, but for those > interested… > > > > The above e-mail was sent at 8:29am (MST) on July 7th, 2008. List went >

Re: [AFMUG] married-male seeking internet service

2016-03-01 Thread Bill Prince
Oh I know a lot of the story, but maybe not all of it. I was trying to give the Reader's Digest version... I think Daniel posted something more about it elsewhere... bp On 3/1/2016 4:23 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: There was a WHOLE LOT more to it than that Bill. It's a long and rather

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
I remember checking my email and all of a sudden I am on AfmugI emailed Chuck and he told me I could play with you guys... it's a fun ride ...not getting knocked off list as before like when I took on Brett Glass for dissing Unger and Larsen... his favorite line was ad hominem attacks on my p

Re: [AFMUG] married-male seeking internet service

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
That is a whole other dimension. There were hard feelings between Mike and some of the WISPA founders. One of the original WISPA guys was unhappy because Mike didn’t give him that big copper coin you are supposed to get as part of part15. I remember WISPA guys trying cause Mike grief over

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Ahh Brett Glass, the father of all WISPs lol John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:21am To: "Animal Farm" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org I remember checking my email and all of

Re: [AFMUG] hahahaha - omg, how have i missed this

2016-03-01 Thread Bill Prince
Maybe funnier. bp On 2/27/2016 8:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I guess i fast forward through too many commercials? This is great!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Yes. Under very good conditions 1024 QAM is possible with AF5X. With Back2Back Sync we’ve to play with power levels of the remote sides to keep modulations up. AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho. And it takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600. The SW i

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
And “patron saint of bikeshedding”. From: John Woodfield Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org Ahh Brett Glass, the father of all WISPs lol John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- Fro

Re: [AFMUG] hahahaha - omg, how have i missed this

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Drumpf. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/drumpfinator/hcimhbfpiofdihhdnofbdlhjcmjopilp From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hahahaha - omg, how have i missed this Maybe funnier. bp On 2/27/2016 8:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller w

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
>Every change gives a reboot. I was spoiled with Mikrotik having every config change done instantly, believe me I know how you feel. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > Yes. U

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Mimosa is quite good about this too. I don't see why nearly *everything* requires a reboot on UBNT. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >Every change gives a reboot. > > I was spoiled with Mikrotik having every config change done instantly, > believe me I know how you feel. >

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread Christopher Tyler
Our rail cutter was only $5 from harbor-freight. It's called a hacksaw. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:21:27 PM Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Rick Harnish
Oh wow, the days of the “Wild West” early WISP days! Thanks for the chuckle Jaime! Respectfully, Rick Harnish Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst 260-307-4000 cell Skype: rick.harnish.​ Twitter: @rharnish From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] hahahaha - omg, how have i missed this

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i cant believe that zealot cruz would fund something with the word damn in it On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Drumpf. > > https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/drumpfinator/hcimhbfpiofdihhdnofbdlhjcmjopilp > > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:31

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Nearly everything? What doesn't require a reboot??? I'm pretty sure every config change requires it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Mimosa is quite good about this too. I don

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
My Harbor Freight DIN cutter was a bit more expensive ($60), but requires less elbow grease. We use a metal chop saw. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Christopher Tyler wrote: > Our rail cutter was only $5 from harbor-freight. > It's called a hacksaw. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTC

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
You are probably right. I said "nearly" because I wasn't 100% sure. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Nearly everything? What doesn't require a reboot??? I'm pretty sure > every config change requires it. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you guys paid for membership back then...old skool stuff right there On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: > Oh wow, the days of the “Wild West” early WISP days! Thanks for the > chuckle Jaime! > > > > Respectfully, > > > > *Rick Harnish* > > Broadband Consultant & Industry Analys

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Not very clean cuts, though. I just order 16" pieces from eBay for a couple bucks, the stuff is CHEAP on there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Christopher Tyler wrote: > Our rail cutter was only $

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
You had my hopes up =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > You are probably right. I said "nearly" because I wasn't 100% sure. > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Josh Luthman > w

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>From a programmer perspective it is simple to understand. You’ve just one >function doing the setup and if s.th. changed you always call the same function doing always the same. Less code. For the operator it is very bad. With CAC a simple change takes >100s until the link is back. Which is

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
metal chop say and bench grinder brush. still takes the trained monkeys two hours to cut two rails, i think theyre manually turning the wheels though On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Jeremy wrote: > My Harbor Freight DIN cutter was a bit more expensive ($60), but requires > less elbow grease. We

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread Adam Moffett
Used to use the saws-all. I use the cordless angle grinder these days. Cut and de-burr with same tool. On 3/1/2016 10:51 AM, Jeremy wrote: My Harbor Freight DIN cutter was a bit more expensive ($60), but requires less elbow grease. We use a metal chop saw. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:45 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
and the PTP600 was what, ten years old when the AF5x came out? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Stefan Englhardt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:34:21 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Rick Harnish
I think I joined Part 15 one year. Some of us got pretty frustrated early and began putting together WISPA in 2004. Of course, I’d been in the business since 1997 without joining anything. I think Part15 started in 2001. At least that was the first WISPCON I remember going to (Chicago). In

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
yup..he claimed to be first and I told him about Rafael Chayres from Internet Online in Chihuahua,Chihuahua having installed 3 900MHz links to hospital and doctor's office for Internet two years before his...1992/93 time framewonder if he still wears turtlenecks? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
POE On 3/1/2016 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You want the POE? Or the SS? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:06

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
You want the POE? Or the SS? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > I'm sure it works, but

[AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
I'm sure it works, but I thought I better ask, can you use the GIGE-APC to power a FSK AP (With a sync pipe parasitic inline)? I've used them with EPMP radios, but those are Gigabit Ethernet ports. Obviously set the jumpers so power is only on 45/78. But does the power injection chip mess wi

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Chris Wright
And sometime last month, and the month before that… Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range? Apologi

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
It would definitely power them, if you put the power on the correct pins. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Oh, I realized the confusion. GIGE-POE-(APC) that's what I'm asking about. > > > On 3/1/2016 10:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > POE > > On 3/1/2016 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman w

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to have a matching gigabit chip on the other end. On 3/1/2016 10:17 AM, Jeremy wrote: It would definitely power them, if you put the power on the correct pins. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
Oh, I realized the confusion. GIGE-POE-(APC) that's what I'm asking about. On 3/1/2016 10:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote: POE On 3/1/2016 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You want the POE? Or the SS? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/ Josh L

[AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
instead of derailing the af24 thread any further... what conditions do I need to hit to make the af5x play at 10x? I'm playing with my 6.5 mile link just seeing what is possible.. it appears to be 'well hidden' on ubiquiti's website because I can't find it. I appear to have it bouncing in and ou

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
My 19 mile shot isn't hitting it either. Can you believe it?? Seriously though, I have no idea what SNR is required for 10x. All of my links are sitting at 8x. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > instead of derailing the af24 thread any further... > > what conditions do I need

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
I have powered non-gigabit UBNT with them. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need > to have a matching gigabit chip on the other end. > > On 3/1/2016 10:17 AM, Jeremy wrote: > > It would definitely power them,

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Yes. This was a great radio. - GENIAS INTERNET -- www.genias.net -- Stefan Englhardt Email: s...@genias.net Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051 Regensburg Tel: +49 941 942798-0Fax: +49 941 942798-9 Von: Af [mailto:af-bou

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Just make sure to leave the jumpers off the data pins. 1&2 3&6 Put the jumpers on 4&5 and 7&8 From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to ha

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
It's only in 5.1 from what the notes said. I don't know why, maybe some sort of CPU horse power thing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jeremy wrote: > My 19 mile shot isn't hitting it either. Can

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
He's probably a member of this group and we've talked him up. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:05am To: "Animal Farm" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org yup..he claimed to be f

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
No CPU, it's an FPGA. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > It's only in 5.1 from what the notes said. I don't know why, maybe some > sort of CPU horse power thing. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
ClaudeSS on the UBNT forum made a chart somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. It's a very narrow window, something between like -47 and -53 or -54, 25-30SNR. Shortish range, very picky. 1024QAM is hard in unlicensed space. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Jeremy wrote: > My 19 mile shot isn't h

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
There was a thread at UBNT Forum. There is a sweet spot regarding Signal/ Frequency and max TX-Power. So you might need a bigger antenna, go to lower frequencies and turn power down to reduce radio noise. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Joe Novak Gesendet: Dienstag, 1

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
You can also use the last mile gear CTM2 -Sean On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that > supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally > hot-swappable. I don’t really want a switch like the ne

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
s/CPU/FPGA Some sort of FPGA thing Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > No CPU, it's an FPGA. > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > It's only in 5.1 from

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
12.8+ bits/hz too! :) On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > s/CPU/FPGA > > Some sort of FPGA thing > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> No CP

[AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
Yes you can use the GIGE-POE-APC with FSK. Only thing you can't use it with is the 320 and 430 because they use split pair power. -Sean On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Nate Burke > wrote: > Oh, I realized the confusion. GIGE-POE-(APC) that's what I'm asking about. > > On 3/1/2016 10:09 AM, Nate B

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Good luck. I have a sub 1mile link I can't get it to work on. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Josh Reynolds" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:27am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation 12.8+ bits/hz too!

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t think there is any chip. Unless you mean the transformers. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to have a matching gigabit chip

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, it is small torrid transformers inside a chip case. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios I don’t think there is any chip. Unless you mean the transformers. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
10 bits I believe. Not sure about 12.8... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 1, 2016 11:27 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > 12.8+ bits/hz too! :) > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > s/CPU/FPGA > > > > Som

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the 24volt syncinjectors will do that i believe, youll still have 4 power supplies but better than 13, or just do a bigger 24 volt On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > You can also use the last mile gear CTM2 > > -Sean > > > On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
I was just interested in trying it out, it's in a fairly quite part of the network so nothing to lose really. I was able to force the link to operate at 10x at that distance at 42 EIRP in 20mhz. Capacity dropped 15mbit to 120mbit - instead of 135mbit. I'm sure the error rate was off the charts. Bac

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sorry, 11.76 :) http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/AF5X-Early-Test-Track-Report-588-Mbps-with-1024QAM-afterburners/cns-p/1199057 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 10 bits I believe. Not sure about 12.8... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Your best bet would probably be something like one of the Netonix switches. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I do have a POE switch but the docs list the UVC cameras as 24 volt and > not 802.3AF or AT compliant. I know the pro version is 48 volt AF compliant > but I didn't

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ahh, the good ol days. - Original Message - From: Daniel White To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 7:05 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org I'm sure I'll get a cease and desist letter from Mike, but for those interested. The above e-mail was sent at 8

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
so i'm probably about to throw one of these bad boys up. what speeds do i get at 8x? since apparently i'd be dreaming at 10x... lol - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:16 AM Subject: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation inst

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread James Howard
There you go with those ad hominem attacks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org yup..he claimed to be first and I told him about Rafael Chayres from Internet Online in Chihu

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
Jay, 4.5 mile, AF5 23db dishes, -56, 30mhz, 8x, 50/50 split, 133mbit/133mbit. 6.5 miles, 30db ubnt dish with RF armor, -50, 20mhz, 8x, 75/25 split, 138mbit/35mbit. not fully aware of 'real world speeds' but mikrotik's btest does 130/130 udp / 100/100 tcp over the 4.5 mile link. If you have not

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Thanks! - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation Jay, 4.5 mile, AF5 23db dishes, -56, 30mhz, 8x, 50/50 split, 133mbit/133mbit. 6.5 miles, 30db ubnt dish with RF armor

Re: [AFMUG] Supercharged Raspberry Pi 3 adds Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and more speed, but still costs $35 | PCWorld

2016-03-01 Thread Bruce Robertson
I do exactly that too. Works like a champ. On 02/29/2016 08:36 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Raspberry pi is cool. Almost a year ago I set up an older model pi (model B I think) to run our weather station. It runs headless; no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse. It's only connection is a USB for power,

[AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
What is the deal with Force 180? Is Cambium even making them? Nobody has had them in stock for months now.

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Kranz
Here is my ideal solution: - Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just shuts down that port - The ability to enable/disable the power rail remotely to each port for hard resets -

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Super WISP
Josh, I have over 700 available. Hit me up off list or call me. Mark Chamerlik Strategic Account Manager-East Coast [cid:image001.jpg@01D14A33.56536AF0] 630-818-1004 OFFICE 815-822-4490 CELL ma...@wavonline.com www.wavonline.com For additio

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
+1 PacketFlux has the stuff right for sync, the CMM is a bad switch with sync. Let my Mikrotik do the Ethernet stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > Here is my ideal solution:

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
You just described the last mile gear CTM2 -Sean On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > Here is my ideal solution: > > > > - Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio > damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just shuts down > that port >

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Didn't Brett Glass used to call himself "Super WISP"   I jumped for a second lol       John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message-From: "Super WISP" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:00pmTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock? Josh, I

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Thanks for the replies, all. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:06 PM, John Woodfield wrote: > Didn't Brett Glass used to call himself "Super WISP" > > > > I jumped for a second lol > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > F

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Aren't the CTM2's like 2k/each? On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > You just described the last mile gear CTM2 > > -Sean > > > On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > >> Here is my ideal solution: >> >> >> >> - Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get c

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Do you want surge suppressors on each circuit? Do you want individually replaceable circuits or all on one board? How many ports? From: Peter Kranz Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power.. Here is my

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
I was using a sawzall on the steel rail and cleaning up with a flat file. A hacksaw cuts like butter through the aluminum rail and a couple swipes with a file cleans them up pretty quick. Just gotta be a little careful with the aluminum rail since it'll obviously bend easier. On 3/1/2016 9:55

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I was going to say, I thought I just bought a bunch from WAV not that long ago... On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Super WISP wrote: > Josh, > > > I have over 700 available. Hit me up off list or call me. > > > > *Mark Chamerlik* > > Strategic Account Manager-East Coast > > [image: cid:image001.

[AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Christopher Gray
I'm hoping to do some work in a steeple that has cell phone equipment. I understand there are currently 6 sectors, and will soon be 9 sectors for mobile phone service located behind the louvers. I would like to assess which work locations require disabling the mobile system (if any), and if there

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Buy a RF meter. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Christopher Gray" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:02pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems I'm hoping to do some work in a steeple

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Kranz
You are right, the CTM2 _is_ pretty damn close but: They are very pricey They only have 8 ports The AC power supplies are built into the unit and cannot be replaced without taking the device out of service... I guess DC power is a solution to this It has unwanted (by me) timing features

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This seems to be the curse of ubnt. Making changes to something like management IP or timezone, clock, whatever should not reboot a radio. It is somewhat forgiveable on a $499 radio buy not on a $6000 link. All proper part101 radios have the management interface separated from the traffic pipe.

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
+1. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:05 PM, John Woodfield wrote: > Buy a RF meter. > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Christopher Gray" > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:02pm > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Gino Villarini
ctm2 come in DC version  Sent from Outlook Mobile On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM -0800, "Peter Kranz" wrote: You are right, the CTM2 _is_ pretty damn close but:   They are very pricey They only have 8 ports The AC power supplies are built into the unit and cannot be replaced

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread David
I use a Cutoff wheel makes for easy work in seconds. I did several out of 10' stick. I use them for small switches as well. I am still looking for a good solution to the larger brick POE for ptp650 units. We usually just mount them on a board on the wall. On 03/01/2016 01:25 PM, George Skoru

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