Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Jason McKemie
It would be nice if they had at least made it like a 2 port RB260GS in an outdoor case, although as far as I can tell, those don't have DOM capabilities either. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I really wasn't trying to be condescending, it would

[AFMUG] CPE Grounding

2016-04-05 Thread Jason McKemie
Those of you that are grounding their CPE/SM/etc, what are you using for wire / lugs / miscellaneous other hardware? Most of the stuff I can find is intended for indoor use and won't last for crap outside. Also, always grounding back to the main house ground? Is a grounding clamp on the meter

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I really wasn't trying to be condescending, it would actually be a useful thing to have a media converter that understood optic DOM and could be monitored... Even if it only had a maximum of three or four OIDs to poll, for link status, Rx power, link speed on the copper port. But by the time one

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Stefan Englhardt
:-) The good thing of FTC is that it could be poe powered with passive 24v and it is outdoor mountable. So there are some additional applications to a normal media converter.  Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: George Skorup Datum: 06.04.2016 06:43

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
Fuck, I don't know. First time I heard about it. Didn't know if it was MikroTik's attempt at a "media converter" that's basically a two-port switch. That's why I asked. God damn, I asked a question and got an answer, but thank you for the condescending commentary. On 4/5/2016 11:28 PM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Robert
Only one Fear and Loathing On 4/5/16 9:30 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive..." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive..." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It's a media converter, over what IP data connection is it supposed to speak SNMP or report DOM data from the optic? On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 9:04 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I was hoping it was managed so that we can monitor Rx power levels. Oh > well. > > > On 4/5/2016 10:54

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
I was hoping it was managed so that we can monitor Rx power levels. Oh well. On 4/5/2016 10:54 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: Cheap and works. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: George Skorup Datum: 06.04.2016 03:52 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Cheap and works. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: George Skorup Datum: 06.04.2016 03:52 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

2016-04-05 Thread Bill Prince
Around here it's difficult to swing a cat without hitting a Tesla. bp On 4/1/2016 12:56 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Nah…. Not enough places to plug in and charge around here…. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
I changed our corporate domain name once (really long to a new really short one) so I went in and started editing POC records. They though the corp/org was changing ownership. I had to explain that it was simply the domain name and not the organization changing. Then they were cool with it.

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Erich Kaiser
I would actually say the opposite. It took me 5 years to do a name transfer (The original company had been dissolved for several years), I had all of the appropriate info and they would still not do it, finally I started making a big fuss about it and then it was done within 24 hours. I have

Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Increased border security via whatever means (wall), good. Blocking money transfers, stupid. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal

Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ

2016-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm afraid I'm not a member so can't read your WSJ article. I have read a different article recently which theorized that he could make good on his promise to build a wall and "Make Mexico pay for it" by /confiscating/ money transfers from US to Mexico. Not simply blocking them. Supposedly

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm on a few ARIN mailing lists. They really seem to go out of their way (more than they probably should) to help people. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof"

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
Damn. Well that's lame. On 4/5/2016 7:41 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: dumb Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: George Skorup Datum: 06.04.2016 02:29 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Jeremy
I've been studying drugs since high school and I still can't pass these tests. On Apr 5, 2016 1:15 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > They were installed and subsequently removed from some school bathroom too. > . > > On 4/5/2016 3:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I remember

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread Stefan Englhardt
dumb Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: George Skorup Datum: 06.04.2016 02:29 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

[AFMUG] MikroTik FTC

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
This MikroTik media converter thingamajig. Is it dumb or managed?

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Steve Utick
We have three siklu links up here. Two 1200TL and one 1200FX. They have been rock solid since we put them up. Very happy here. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Hey all. > Looking to get a school hooked up with 600+mbps FDD. Distance 0.82 miles > LOS.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Matt
> Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? Turns out you pull power for a second then restore it quickly. Log into 169.254.1.1 within 30 seconds and select default mode.

[AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ

2016-04-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
What a fucking idiot ideafrom a fucking idiot did I say fucking idiot..oh yes I did http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237

Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams

2016-04-05 Thread Paul Stewart
The android based boxes are everywhere here in Canada now … people buying them up like crazy – basically preloaded Android boxes with Kodi and lots of “addons” that allow folks to get lots of questionable content … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Greg Osborn Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams

2016-04-05 Thread Paul Stewart
What’s the “header” look like or how can it be identified easily? I’ll check as curious .. :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 9:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams I’m not sure if you run into

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Sean Heskett
Nope but it's probably in the manual ;) -Sean On Tuesday, April 5, 2016, Matt wrote: > Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? >

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe I'm confusing them with the government. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 3:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN Ken, Short answer is yes, we did something similar.. The best advice I can offer you is to

Re: [AFMUG] US Embraces Gigabit, Still Averages 14 Megs | Light Reading

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
In related news, US embraces Tesla, still drives Prius. Which candidate will promise a gigabit in every pot? You’d think it would be Sanders, but he seems hung up on free college. How about Vermin Supreme? Nope, just ponies. And Cruz probably wants to take us back to before there was an

[AFMUG] US Embraces Gigabit, Still Averages 14 Megs | Light Reading

2016-04-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.lightreading.com/gigabit/gigabit-cities/us-embraces-gigabit-still-averages-14-megs/d/d-id/722391?f_src=lightreading_editorspicks_rss_latest

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Siklu and Bridgewave...along with Ubiquiti 3.65 stuffbut mostly Sikluone Bridgewave replacedsupport contract ends in August... On Apr 5, 2016 3:07 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > Jaime, > > Siklu or IgniteNet's? > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Keefe John
not ignitenet if it was last summer On 4/5/2016 4:07 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: Jaime, Siklu or IgniteNet's? On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: I installed about 30 links last summer at Fort Bliss and 6 in

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Sam Lambie
Jaime, Siklu or IgniteNet's? On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I installed about 30 links last summer at Fort Bliss and 6 in Artesia. > Not a single call back > On Apr 5, 2016 2:50 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > >> Hey all. >>

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
I installed about 30 links last summer at Fort Bliss and 6 in Artesia. Not a single call back On Apr 5, 2016 2:50 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > Hey all. > Looking to get a school hooked up with 600+mbps FDD. Distance 0.82 miles > LOS. > > Have any of you used Siklu or have any

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Ignitenet Metrolinq 60ghz ? may fit your needs :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Sam Lambie" > To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 132 (VLAN)

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
well crumbs, as best a can tell, nether this phone system, fortiswitch model, or fortigate model will do the lldp response On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Sovereen, David A < david.sover...@mercury.net> wrote: > Correct. > > Your switch will send out an LLDP packet that will advertise that VLAN

[AFMUG] Siklu Gear

2016-04-05 Thread Sam Lambie
Hey all. Looking to get a school hooked up with 600+mbps FDD. Distance 0.82 miles LOS. Have any of you used Siklu or have any other suggestion on a single radio Link? Trying to stay away from 24 ghz as we are using it quite a bit at our NOC. thanks Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Ken, Short answer is yes, we did something similar.. The best advice I can offer you is to call ARIN and speak to one of their folks. You will be pleasantly surprised. Their mission is to make things work for you, as specified by the framework of ARIN as an organization. They are not the

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 450 Cacti

2016-04-05 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I found the latest MIB for 14.1.1 supports adaptRate for high or low priority. It appears to work and provides an integer output. adaptRateLowPri = 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.2.128 adaptRateHighPri = 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.2.129 You make a good point about uplink rate adapt from the SM only. Would

Re: [AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Keefe John
They can do a "resource consolidation" but they'll probably charge for it. On 4/5/2016 2:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Has anyone ever done a company name change on your ARIN account? Any chance that could end badly? I'm actually not talking a name change, more like consolidating 2 companies.

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 132 (VLAN)

2016-04-05 Thread Sovereen, David A
Correct. Your switch will send out an LLDP packet that will advertise that VLAN 200 is available on this port and is the Voice VLAN and the phones will then boot up and operate on that VLAN. Cisco switches, by default, send out LLDP packets every 30 seconds (I think) and some phones only

[AFMUG] changing company name with ARIN

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Has anyone ever done a company name change on your ARIN account? Any chance that could end badly? I'm actually not talking a name change, more like consolidating 2 companies. Years ago I formed a second corporation to acquire another ISP (in case there were skeletons in the closet). The

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

2016-04-05 Thread Matt
Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i?

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do like Congresspeople and hold a fundraiser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylomy1Aw9Hk From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers you might be able to work out a deal testing

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you might be able to work out a deal testing john keefes drugs for him to earn some extra money On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > +1 Ken. > > > > Thanks everyone for your input. I will go to my fallback plan, which is > raising extra $$ being a Chipendale

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
They were installed and subsequently removed from some school bathroom too. . On 4/5/2016 3:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I remember hearing on the news a few years back that the city of Madison had to remove those in their buildings because the homeless people were drinking it... On Tue, Apr

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
+1 Ken. Thanks everyone for your input. I will go to my fallback plan, which is raising extra $$ being a Chipendale dancer in the evening. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Mathew Howard
I remember hearing on the news a few years back that the city of Madison had to remove those in their buildings because the homeless people were drinking it... On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > They have those free Purell dispensers all over. > 120 proof. >

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 450 Cacti

2016-04-05 Thread George Skorup
Yup. It would be nice if they could give us something like 0=QPSK MIMO-A, 1=QPSK MIMO-B, 2=16QAM MIMO-A, etc. But really, if you graph SNR for both polarities and signal strength ratio on the SM, then you can get an idea of the downlink rate. And the other issue with tracking rates is that

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
They have those free Purell dispensers all over. 120 proof. What could go wrong? From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing The hospital my mom was in will provide beer to patients if you are an alcoholic.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
I just don’t know how you explain this without sounding like Chipotle adding a “Special No E. Coli In Your Food Assessment”. Or your kids wanting to be paid to clean their room. You could maybe get away with a one time charge to rebuild after a natural disaster. Or if upgrading equipment for

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 132 (VLAN)

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
These are Fortigate phones with native support for that option. but I can see the issue if other devices also have it enabled The phones do not defaultly have CDP enabled, so that is not an option LLDP is Enabled by default, however I have historically only looked at LLDP ad a hand packet to look

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The hospital my mom was in will provide beer to patients if you are an alcoholic. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > There was a time when our local hospital sold cigarettes. > > Simon Westlake wrote: > >> That's very true, I often grab a quick beer

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Jay Weekley
There was a time when our local hospital sold cigarettes. Simon Westlake wrote: That's very true, I often grab a quick beer at the gas station as I'm driving to the grocery store to pick up beer, before I go out to the bar for a few beers. All they really need to do is starting selling beer

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Sure, but sometimes it helps to point things out. Myself I'd be terrified of losing credibility with my customers if I started charging them fees for upgrading my equipment. Now if you increase the monthly rates by a couple of bucks...that is better for you in the long run and they wouldn't mind

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I imagine Paul McCall has been in business long enough to do that level of math without our help. I agree with whoever suggested take an average and build it into your monthly price. On 4/5/2016 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Well say your repair bill is $10k/mo. If you spend this $95k you

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 132 (VLAN)

2016-04-05 Thread Sovereen, David A
DHCP option 132 support is sketchy and will vary a lot from manufacturer to manufacturer, and even model to model within a manufacturer. The more common approach to this is CDP and/or LLDP support, where a VLAN is announced as the Voice VLAN. Most (maybe 75% of handsets out there) will see

Re: [AFMUG] malicious activity reports

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Everyone that's not going BCP38 or it's successors needs hit themselves in the face with a Mack truck. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To:

Re: [AFMUG] malicious activity reports

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/ http://www.team-cymru.org/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
I get your point Josh. However, its not a linear $$ proposition. Remember, PDMNet can repair most of the gear. The economics are nowhere near that short time on a return. I am not trying to justify the cost and whether we should do it. I do indeed like to sleep at night. The question was

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
There is no definitive blood concentration that equates to intoxication like with alcohol, probably because its a fat soluble chemical so concentrations can be present even without intoxication On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Blood tests

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Blood tests aren't possible? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Daniel White wrote: > Nope. That is the biggest problem with driving while impaired convictions > in Colorado... you

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Daniel White
Nope. That is the biggest problem with driving while impaired convictions in Colorado... you really can't prove it. The Police in Colorado would love to have a reliable test that tells if your impaired from Mary Jane or something else. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Well say your repair bill is $10k/mo. If you spend this $95k you save money after 9.5 months. Any money you don't spend on repairs in the future is also saved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Paul

[AFMUG] DHCP option 132 (VLAN)

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im setting up a new VOIP system for a contract customer. We are putting the PBX and handsets on vlan 200 say. The phone supports option 132 natively, it seems to pull the initial address from the primary scope, apply the VLAN then pull from the secondary scope. These have a secondary gigabit

Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

2016-04-05 Thread Harold Bledsoe
We are getting it into production ASAP. I hope to have some good news soon! For any broken mounts, we will replace it. Just ping support with shipping info. We can also update it to the 80mm pole size bracket (standard going forward). On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:39 PM Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
Not that! ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers And your monthly repair bill? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
Woohoo! Smart move! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA I took my profits. 19.3% -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Bruce Robertson
No need to hope - they are. On 04/05/2016 10:30 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: It is inside a 401K so I am hoping the gains are part of the tax deferred mechanism. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
And your monthly repair bill? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > And Josh, improvements to all the pieces / parts I have described are > right at $ 95K (all

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
And Josh, improvements to all the pieces / parts I have described are right at $ 95K (all outgoing), so it’s a big deal. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:19 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
And, I would do that, but we just did our 1st price increase on our “standard” tier plan (10% increase) only 8 months ago. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
That part was in the plan for the land owner part. Exactly as you stated. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers You could ask the land owner

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown
It is inside a 401K so I am hoping the gains are part of the tax deferred mechanism. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA Good call. How long did you own the stock? If it was less than a year,

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Only a few months... -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA Good call. How long did you own the stock? If it was less than a year, remember the 40% capital gains tax on your profits. :( Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Robert Andrews
I do believe they now have a test for pot in testing. Able to be administered road-side... http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/12/02/pot-breathalyzer-may-be-coming-soon-to-police-near-you On 04/05/2016 10:06 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: This is the primary hindrance to

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
This is the primary hindrance to decriminalization and/or legalization, there is no test for intoxication. Back in my NORML days, that used to be a huge topic of discussion on progressing the movement. Its come out of favor since the medical marijuana loopholes came up. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Good call. How long did you own the stock? If it was less than a year, remember the 40% capital gains tax on your profits. :( Travis On 4/5/2016 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I took my profits. 19.3% -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 9:56 AM

Re: [AFMUG] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
You need to start building out here, the site we brought online recently, the property owner wanted to know things like how much he would need to pay us extra for our equipment being on his bin, and how much it would cost him for us to just run the electric to our enclosure instead of hiring an

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
I cringe when I see a guy with pajamas under his coat at the gas station buying a 24-pack. People, put on pants before going on a beer run. Even if you’re just going back to your parents basement to play Xbox Live. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:34 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Just be happy they at least took the trouble to put pajamas on... On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I cringe when I see a guy with pajamas under his coat at the gas station > buying a 24-pack. People, put on pants before going on a beer run. Even > if

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Ask them if they want a snack -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing Is there a way to test an employee to see if they are currently high on pot versus simply having "residue" from the

Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

2016-04-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Any idea when the upgraded mount is going to be available? I think I'm going to need them to get our link to work... and it doesn't help that I broke one... On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: > It makes fine tuning longer links easier. > > On Mon, Apr 4,

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Mathew Howard
What?! you can't buy beer at hospitals?! I wonder what Wisconsin would look like on a map that showed everywhere you can buy beer... On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > That's very true, I often grab a quick beer at the gas station as I'm > driving to

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Jay Weekley
Is there a way to test an employee to see if they are currently high on pot versus simply having "residue" from the weekend? Jason McKemie wrote: This is my biggest issue with employer drug testing. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:03 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Simon Westlake
That's very true, I often grab a quick beer at the gas station as I'm driving to the grocery store to pick up beer, before I go out to the bar for a few beers. All they really need to do is starting selling beer at the hospital, and you'd be all set. On 4/5/2016 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Adam Moffett
My first thought is that every time something is wrong in the future you'll get some smartypants saying, "hey didn't I pay a fee to make it more reliable." Not saying it's a bad idea, I just have a habit of seeing the bad things. On 4/5/2016 12:14 PM, Paul McCall wrote: I was discussing

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Mathew Howard
There seems to me to be a flaw with that map... it shows the ratio of bars to grocery stores, but when's the last time you saw a grocery store in Wisconsin that didn't have an extensive selection of alcohol? ...not to mention every gas station... I don't think it does us justice :P On Tue, Apr 5,

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Jason McKemie
This is my biggest issue with employer drug testing. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:03 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wish there were better timeframe testing, A guy shouldnt get canned for > smoking a joint on a Saturday night 3 weeks ago, but if hes operating a >

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
We added those kind of costs into the monthly On Tue, Apr 5, 2016, 11:21 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > You could ask the land owner if they would like to participate in “adding” > surge suppression for their stuff at the same time you are doing yours. > Let them get in on a good

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown
You could ask the land owner if they would like to participate in “adding” surge suppression for their stuff at the same time you are doing yours. Let them get in on a good deal by sharing some of the expense. If they say no, just do it anyway. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 05,

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
There's a bunch of companies that have decades long history of paying 5% dividends with a habit of raising every year or even every quarter. Verizon is one, P, Johnson and Johnson is even better in that segment. I stopped owning stocks that don't pay dividends a fee years ago. I don't have the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Personally? Probably never. If you have competition then HELL no. I would strongly advise you look at your contracts to see if you can do that without getting sued. Look at it this way. You can a) spend $5k/mo on repairs or b) spend $15k once to prevent the monthly repair bills. Josh

[AFMUG] "Special Assesments" for customers

2016-04-05 Thread Paul McCall
I was discussing the massive tower upgrade/retrofits that we are doing with my V.P. right hand man. We are converting from 24vdc to 48vdc, fiber and DC up the tower, additional grounding at the tower, additional grounding at the service panel, adding panel surge protectors and adding a

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I got 41% =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I took my profits. 19.3% > > > -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, > 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
You're using logic and numbers to relate to stock prices...that's your problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Why would you buy and hold a stock that pays no

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck McCown
I took my profits. 19.3% -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 9:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA Why would you buy and hold a stock that pays no dividends? Wells Fargo (WFC) is a much better long term stock, paying 3.10% right

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I never understood opponents of drug testing. Its a good thing, best with companies who have a mitigation plan with a rehabilitation option, whether company paid or employee paid. Give them a chance to make amends, once. I wish there were better timeframe testing, A guy shouldnt get canned for

Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing

2016-04-05 Thread Simon Westlake
Keefe is in Wisconsin with me, so he better make sure not to include alcohol testing, or he won't have any employees.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/06/03/bars-vs-grocery-stores-mapping-americas-beer-belly/ On 4/4/2016 9:07 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Um we operate in

Re: [AFMUG] malicious activity reports

2016-04-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
What is the connection between not spoofing IP addresses and reports of malicious activity from your own IPs, other than setting a good example and hoping the rest of the world follows suit? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

2016-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Why would you buy and hold a stock that pays no dividends? Wells Fargo (WFC) is a much better long term stock, paying 3.10% right now. I think Tesla stock is going to take a dive very soon... the numbers just don't add up. With the current value at $246 per share, that puts them at a $32B

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