Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

I guess I would ask why they want faster ethernet radios. Has their data grown that much or just their ego requirements? Regardless, I think you took the right approach. If he wants you to consult, get paid about 10 times what you are really worth just like the rest of them, and offer a written opi

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

If they have to have the data throughput then I'd tell them to go with 4.9 and leave the unlicensed guys alone. But, do they really need it? Is this like using a backhoe to dig a fence post hole? On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Make sure the big ‘ol wall people want e

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

4.9 is not a good option due to existing public safety links on both sides of border.The new PLCs from Allen Bradley are IP based as well other gear they are now using. Also heard they are considering cameras at Wells not just boosters and wastewater. On Jun 9, 2016 7:43 AM, "Cameron Crum" wro

Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for telemarketers and unsolicited sales calls

Nice. I might just have to do this. From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 12:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for telemarketers and unsolicited sales calls We used to have one that went like this: Press 1 to speak with sales. Press 2 to speak with

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Maybe 4.9 GHz LOS links between towers, and Cambium PMP450i and PTP450i in 900 MHz for the NLOS links? As long as they stick with cameras that have reasonable BW requirements. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:52 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] If it was you... 4.9

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

I would recommend 11GHz for ptp...I would test the Cambium and Ubiquiti 900 since antennas are in place...but I am thinking of LTE MuMimo solutions as well.. with all the tanks they have I would reduce long links to closest one...right now most shoot to one tankthe original 1993 design is obso

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Really, if its subsidized, depending on the actual current and realistic near term future bandwidth demands, a primarily bulk cellular data with on demand ptp and ptmp solution for gap fillers might be well worth looking into. Review the entire infrastructure and build some data banking locations t

[AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

Is there a good (affordable) way to backup large datasets? I'm talking about like picture or video libraries. A large NVR can have 6-12tb of storage. I just ran into an issue where a 12tb NVR just blew the raid, and lost all the recordings. (4 6tb drives in a RAID10, The Controller dropped

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

Rsync it to a JBOD? I quite like Synology. I have an RS214. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Is there a good (affordable) way to backup large datasets? I'm talking > about like

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

For over 600 Wells, 50 pump stations, 15 boosters, 25 storm systems, 400 lift stations and 8 wastewater plants? On Jun 9, 2016 9:13 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Really, if its subsidized, depending on the actual current and realistic > near term future bandwidth demands, a primarily bulk

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Check out Xetawave (http://www.xetawave.com/Products/Overview.shtml) 57Kbps in a 12.5KHz channel. They are ethernet based. On Jun 8, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > While working at Storm Water site today, one of the water Co. SCADA guys came > by... he discussed that they are lookin

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Thats why I said subsidized. For that volume of subsidized cellular data nodes the cost per unit (hardware, and service) can be negotiated. Use ptp, ptmp to interconnect the low hanging fruit, cellular to handle the problem children(where service exists), data bank to offset extended consumption.

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

They don't like to hand over ownership On Jun 9, 2016 10:00 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Thats why I said subsidized. For that volume of subsidized cellular data > nodes the cost per unit (hardware, and service) can be negotiated. Use ptp, > ptmp to interconnect the low hanging fruit, cel

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

They have 24/7/365 monitoring...they have generators and UPS back up up the wazoo. Key folks have cell and two way radio communication. Some sites have cellular routers as back up in case radio links fail. They are looking at fiber network electric Co has to possibly piggyback. On Jun 9, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

we have build up a 320 Wimax Network with the 12 Beams antennas in IRAQ works great and at this time we also installed them with PMP100 perfect.. If you need a contact, i will help you 2016-06-09 6:08 GMT+02:00 Rory Conaway : > Interesting. I didn’t think about the things you can’t do with it.

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

It sounds like there's plenty of money to play with, so I'd definitely do 11ghz wherever you can... but NLOS links running on 5 watt 900mhz radios could be difficult to replace (unless that's way over kill for what's actually needed). On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > They

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

The existing antennas though are single pol, if they are wanting to go broadband with new radios, I would think dual pol. I would not recommend any frequency converted (900 and 3650 MHz) Ubiquiti radios, they seem to have a variety of problems, also unlikely to have any development thrown at th

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

Thanks Daniel. Did you do any comparison of range with any other antennas? Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Gerlach Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas we have build

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Yes...I considered that...this is in nascent stage.I am not going to offer ideas or suggestions unless I am hired to consult.The current SCADA boss might be leaving to Western Refinery...so things are on hold On Jun 9, 2016 11:10 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: The existing antennas though ar

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Yep current design has 6 MAS base stations with a few unlicensed 900 are repeater linksone site has two base stationsanother has 4.now with so many elevated tanks, we would make small cells to improve link budgets and coordinate spectrum usage.Right now if one of those two main si

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Need to talk to Google or Facebook about getting a balloon or drone over the area. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 12:15 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] If it was you... Yep current design has 6 MAS base stations with a few unlicensed 900 are repeater linksone

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

It sounds like it would be a fun project. Well, fun to design a new system... putting it up just sounds like a lot of work. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yep current design has 6 MAS base stations with a few unlicensed 900 are > repeater linksone site has two base

[AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.. So I’d have to use all three SFPs, and one copper gig to get it? Other notes: it appears they’re keying it up.. so you get to pay extra to unlock capacity to 1100Mbps and a

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

Yesit would be a feather in my Stetson if I got design gig On Jun 9, 2016 11:30 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > It sounds like it would be a fun project. Well, fun to design a new > system... putting it up just sounds like a lot of work. > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Jaime Solorza >

[AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Anyone else seeing problems getting eBay to load today? Seems to die far down the chain for me, very intermittent service. C:\Users\Sterling>tracert ebay.com Tracing route to ebay.com [66.211.160.86] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.25.25.1 2 1 ms 1 ms

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Fine this morning. Fine right now. I thought fiber was supposed to be fast? My wireless has no problems using eBay. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Anyone else seeing pr

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Yeah, it’s back to speedy now. Looks like their provider access through telia.net got temporarily swamped or something. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow? Fine this morning. F

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

I wonder if this thread on the Outages list is related. https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2016-June/009122.html On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Anyone else seeing problems getting eBay to load today? > > Seems to die far down the chain for me, very intermittent

[AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

Anyone have info on this? i.e what sort of trade in credit they are giving, is it only 430 APs and not SMs? Can you trade in multiple 430 APs for credit on a single 450i? etc http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/news-events/450i-trade-up/

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

It’s for PMP 450 and PMP 430 Access Points only. You trade in an AP for $400 credit toward purchase of a 450i AP. You cannot stack them (i.e. trade in multiple APs to combine the credit toward a single 450i AP). Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thurs

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

Do these 430 APs have to be functional? Vlad On 6/9/2016 3:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: It’s for PMP 450 and PMP 430 Access Points only. You trade in an AP for $400 credit toward purchase of a 450i AP. You cannot stack them (i.e. trade in multiple APs to combine the credit toward a single

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

It's not working at all for me now... well, parts of it are, but not the parts I need. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Andrew Haninger wrote: > I wonder if this thread on the Outages list is related. > > https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2016-June/009122.html > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

So, what you're saying is... box it up, drop it off the top of a tower, and then blame it on UPS? On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > "It was working when I shipped it" > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 4537

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

No, I'm saying it was working when I shipped it. If it's not working there I don't know what happened. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > So, what you're saying is... box it up,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

"It was working when I shipped it" Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > Do these 430 APs have to be functional? > > > Vlad > > > On 6/9/2016 3:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: > > It’s fo

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

I'm still seeing ebay issues. Had an earlier issue with management tunnels between our MD and FL networks with 400ms and lots of dropped packets at telia's edge On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > It's not working at all for me now... well, parts of it are, but not the > par

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Telia is joining the ranks of HE and Cogent. Great for a lot of things, but not a top notch network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Which is hilarious because just last night I was talking to a friend who's been at HE for about 15 years now. He was saying that Telia is really good :) On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Telia is joining the ranks of HE and Cogent. Great for a lot of things, > but not a top n

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Race to the bottom in price will do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:02:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Yeah, I think we're getting what we're demanding for price, eh? Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

I'm pretty sure they're using two radios to get 4Gbps, so I guess you'd probably be using two SFP's on each one. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model > appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2.5Gbps SFP, not sure why they did not go 10G Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > So I’m checking out the n

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber channel storage array applications (example: Cisco MDS9000) but you will not see them used in ethernet speaking routers/switches. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

This is what i have been looking at. Looks affordable and has a 10G interface. https://www.qnap.com/i/useng/product/model.php?II=202&event=2 Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Josh Luthman wr

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Just telling you what he told me at the showI did bitch about it right away :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber ch

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Hello and thanks for the questions. The StrataPro does have one 2.5 Gbps SFP cage (along with 3 other GigE ports), but so far we have not qualified a suitable 2.5 Gbps SFP. That is something we are working on. The Xi model is capable of 2 Gbps FDD (4 Gbps aggregate) so that currently requires usi

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Diversify your networks. Buy from more networks and only accept customer routes from the cheaper ones that won't peer with you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jesse DuPont" To: af

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is incredibly rare in layer 3 IP network deployments. If it had an SFP+ interface it would be tri

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

If the total storage capacity is 12TB and it's a video recording system, rsync over a 1000BaseT-to-1000BaseT cat5e patch cable between two systems could work fine. Rsync will only transfer the files that have changed. Set it up on a nightly cron job to run at 0200 in the morning, you might see less

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

what's the cost of these radios? On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is incredibly rare

[AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on Climate Science

As Sheldon says, "like trying teach evolution to creationists".lol Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/after-the-deluge-texas-an_b_10367522.html

[AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

I laughed my ass off https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/4ncaqe/tifuaround_age_10/

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

crickets... bp On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: what's the cost of these radios? On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps SFP cage instead of SFP+? I do not have a single router in any network I support capable of

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > crickets... > > > bp > > > > On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: > > what's the cost of these radios? > > On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Can I ask what was the reason for the decisio

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY bp On 6/9/2016 3:28 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince > wrote: crickets... bp On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

The cost on that is insane. I specs out two oldish Dell storage boxes last week that were ~18TB usable storage for 5k total. Use zfs and sync between the two. On Jun 9, 2016 10:32 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Rsync it to a JBOD? > > I quite like Synology. I have an RS214. > > > Josh Luthman > Off

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

I meant on synology as a whole btw, not that specific small 2u On Jun 9, 2016 6:03 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > The cost on that is insane. I specs out two oldish Dell storage boxes last > week that were ~18TB usable storage for 5k total. Use zfs and sync between > the two. > On Jun 9, 2016 10:32

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

Will they verify it is actually a 430 ? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program "It was working when I shipped it" Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 4537

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Is it just me, every time I see this company name I think Celery... (Sorry Jesse). From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow? Yeah, I think we're getting what we're demanding for price, eh? Jesse DuPont Network Architect email

Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

Where's the peanut butter? On 6/9/2016 6:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Is it just me, every time I see this company name I think Celery... (Sorry Jesse). *From:* Jesse DuPont *Sent:* Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *S

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

I could have written this. Change stump to "home made cannon aka pipe bomb" Change pyrodex to "home made black powder". Change flaming arrow to crappy homemade fuse. My daylight turned amber... Those were the days!!! -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

This thread reminded me that I needed to check into these... it's probably best to just email John and get a price, but they're actually pretty reasonable, in my opinion. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > crickets... > > > bp > > > > On 6/9/2016 2:57 PM, Keefe John wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

How about filling a garbage bag full of acetylene like a balloon? That's good for a mushroom cloud and a few hours of tinnitus if you were close when it went off. My welder/mechanic friends were setting those off as pranks at one point to wake up napping truck drivers. After one buddy burned him

Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...

AF3X? On Jun 9, 2016 12:10 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > The existing antennas though are single pol, if they are wanting to go > broadband with new radios, I would think dual pol. > > I would not recommend any frequency converted (900 and 3650 MHz) Ubiquiti > radios, they seem to have a variety of p

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

I actually have the opposite problem. My 45 day clock to return the 430 APs for destruction is ticking down, but they are still on a tower in service. I haven’t done the swap due to crazy weather here plus some personal problems. I’m guessing Cambium isn’t going to be too rigid about the 45 d

Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast Syncdropswarning

F16 is a great, agile platform. Not quite as good as the F15 when it comes to maneuvering and raw power though - it's got some tricks! I do wish the F14 was still around. On Jun 8, 2016 4:43 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > They demo'd an F16 flying at an insane angle of attack one year at a > Moffet

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

You can't get more than $400 a piece for the NIB spares? On 6/9/2016 6:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I actually have the opposite problem. My 45 day clock to return the 430 APs for destruction is ticking down, but they are still on a tower in service. I haven’t done the swap due to crazy weather h

Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast Syncdropswarning

They still are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat#Iran All politics and embargos aside, it's amazing they've been able to keep them flying relying on a limited budget and black market / nonstandard / custom fabricated repair parts. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

Gotta make sure to put in mostly oxygen. If it is just pure acetylene it is just a big fireball. But the right amount of oxygen it is a true detonation. From: Steve D Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 5:37 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions How about filling

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

So ping pong ball with drano down gas tank not enough for you pyros On Jun 9, 2016 5:53 PM, wrote: > Gotta make sure to put in mostly oxygen. If it is just pure acetylene it > is just a big fireball. But the right amount of oxygen it is a true > detonation. > > *From:* Steve D > *Sent:* Thursd

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

If it does not make me deaf and cause tinnitus it was not good enough. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:00 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions So ping pong ball with drano down gas tank not enough for you pyros On Jun 9, 2016 5:5

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

Maybe. From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 6:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program You can't get more than $400 a piece for the NIB spares? On 6/9/2016 6:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I actually have the opposite problem. My 45 day clock to ret

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2.5 and 5 gig are up and comers for enterprise WiFi, but that's copper. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:35:22

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

Yeah, NBase-T uses the same modulation as 10GBaseT but at lower data rates to work on older cat5e/cat6 cables. Pretty much irrelevant for radios on rooftops and towers in my opinion, except maybe a future 802.11ac(wave2) public wifi AP on a roof deck of a condo. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, M

Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West CoastSyncdropswarning

Article today about replacement for the T38: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/politics/new-us-fighter-jet-trainer/index.html From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 6:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West CoastSyncdropswarning They still are: ht

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

The cost of convenience? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:06:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on Climate Science

I think this is s bit different. I happen to think the big fireball in the sky is most to blame. But who knows, science changes the answers to meet the data so maybe I will be deemed correct one day. I just love that Leonard Nemoy ice age special years ago. Now it is heat. But, if this is global w

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on Climate Science

Look up latest on Artic ice situation... On Jun 9, 2016 7:36 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I think this is s bit different. I happen to think the big fireball in the > sky is most to blame. But who knows, science changes the answers to meet > the data so maybe I will be deemed correct one day. I j

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

Old Mormon prophecy that the desert will “bloom as a rose” in the last days. I’m OK with that. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience I think this is s bit different. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on Climate Science

In the near term it doesn't really matter what the cause is. It is verifiable that the earth is getting warmer. Although local conditions are somewhat irrelevant, we haven't seen a hard freeze here since about 2000. That said, the question becomes what can we do to counter it, or maybe just C

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

or burn like a torch... bp On 6/9/2016 7:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Old Mormon prophecy that the desert will “bloom as a rose” in the last days. I’m OK with that. *From:* Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

That's fine. We can just invade Canada. On 6/9/2016 9:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: or burn like a torch... bp On 6/9/2016 7:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Old Mormon prophecy that the desert will “bloom as a rose” in the last days. I’m OK with that. *From:* Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

Their boreal forests are turning brown and their ice is melting. Will be interesting what it is like fifty or a hundred years from now. On Jun 9, 2016 9:59 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > That's fine. We can just invade Canada. > > On 6/9/2016 9:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > or burn like a torch...

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

Frozen again On Jun 9, 2016 10:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Their boreal forests are turning brown and their ice is melting. Will be > interesting what it is like fifty or a hundred years from now. > On Jun 9, 2016 9:59 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > >> That's fine. We can just invade Canada. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on ClimateScience

Time will tell On Jun 9, 2016 10:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Frozen again > On Jun 9, 2016 10:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > >> Their boreal forests are turning brown and their ice is melting. Will be >> interesting what it is like fifty or a hundred years from now. >> On Jun 9, 201

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split onClimateScience

That was pretty cool. I liked the bit that they estimated the process may take from hundreds to thousands of years and it happen in a couple of years. The whole CO2 problem may be a thing of the past assuming access to the proper underground geology. From: Lewis Bergman It doesn't matter any

Re: [AFMUG] Backing up large Datasets

Our synology boxes irritate me with all the pre-installed toy software. And smart is not on by default On Jun 9, 2016 7:29 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > The cost of convenience? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

College project from the guys who made the Moto and Cambium systems you're probably using? :) On Jun 8, 2016 4:26 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Based on what I've seen so far, the UBNT radios are coming with N > connectors, which puzzles me greatly. Must have been some college project > or something

[AFMUG] First ePMP AP

Hi Guys Setting up my first ePMP Ap I have over 100 Ubnt AP's but running out of capacity on them. For PTMP do you guys normally use TDD or ePTP Master (whatever that is) I notice on the sm you have to check specific frequencies, do you guys just tick every second one in case you need to

Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

ePTP is only for PTP so set the mode to TDD. On the SM, select the channel sizes to scan, then for each channel size the frequencies to scan. On 2.4 I usually select all frequencies for the channel sizes I'll use since it's just a few seconds to scan per channel size. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:19

Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

ePTP is for low latency. I typically see less than 3ms average. Does not support GPS sync. TDD PTP mode does support GPS sync. You can chose either 2.5 or 5ms framing. Obviously the 2.5 framing will get you lower latency, about the same as Canopy (7-14ms). The PTP modes buy you the higher EI

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

We have a done a Test with the orginal Antenna from the pmp 320 and it was the same db on 12 miles like the ETI 12 Beams. But we could use real ABABABABABAB in 90°. I´m sure we will get a Trial Kit for you, it depends which Freq you want to use? 2016-06-09 19:11 GMT+02:00 Rory Conaway : > Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split on Climate Science

Only if you compare it to the latest on the Antarctic ice situation... On 6/9/16 6:53 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Look up latest on Artic ice situation... On Jun 9, 2016 7:36 PM, "Lewis Bergman" > wrote: I think this is s bit different. I happen to think the

Re: [AFMUG] OT :After the Deluge: Texas and France Split onClimateScience

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/4ncobn/95_of_co2_injected_into_basaltic_rock_mineralizes/ Good comments. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > That was pretty cool. I liked the bit that they estimated the process may > take from hundreds to thousands of years and it

Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

Thanks very much guys To clarify, all unchecked will scan them all? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 2:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP ePTP is for low latency. I typically see less than 3ms aver

Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

Yes. It says so right on the scan selection list. Warning: SM will scan all frequencies for 10 MHz bandwith if no frequencies are selected I don't know why that's a warning. But OK. Would be a pretty good idea for the Canopy guys to do the same. So that when some idiot (me) clicks the "Clea

Re: [AFMUG] Has anyone used the ETI antennas

Thanks for the offer. I'm still developing the application but I will reach out when I get to that point. I need to review all their products in the meantime. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Gerlach Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:07 PM