Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

They can be PTP as well. On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Thanks!!! > > Jaime Solorza > > On Nov 29, 2017 4:44 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: >> >> The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations >> etc) >> >> They come connectorized or integrated. >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Thanks!!! Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2017 4:44 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations > etc) > > They come connectorized or integrated. > > -Sean > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM Bill Prince wrote: > >> Yes. The i is (I think)

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

The i is for industrial (it’s rated to be installed in hazardous locations etc) They come connectorized or integrated. -Sean On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Yes. The i is (I think) for integrated > > -bp > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes. The i is (I think) for integrated -bp -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Are these ptmp? > > > > Jaime Solorza >

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Are these ptmp? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

tps://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

erswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Steve Jones" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:31:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? On Apr 20, 201

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > wrote: I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem free vs the new and more

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Why do cambiumnetworks emails get flagged in gmail on the list? On Apr 20, 2017 8:55 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem > free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases > though. > > Jon Langeler > Michwav

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I was mostly referring to the previous case that was basically problem free vs the new and more expensive case. I like the new standard SM cases though. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 8:54 PM, David Milholen wrote: > > I dont want cheap.. I want security,relia

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I dont want cheap.. I want security,reliability mil spec design so I can sleep at night. Keeps others in my area from popping up with some cheap "WifI' stuff put lightly and raising the noise floor and baffling with BS. I should DUCK! On 4/20/2017 3:03 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: I'm not sure

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

.. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out of warranty products. i think it may

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I'm not sure why cambium moves to a more expensive design when everyone wants it to be cheaper. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Dave wrote: > > I have 2 in route to them for inspection.. > > >> On 04/19/2017 07:11 PM, George Skorup wrote: >> I woul

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

linenw.com onlinenw.com <http://onlinenw.com> On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

<http://onlinenw.com> On 4/20/2017 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yeah, well, that is why AFMUG exists... From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I constantly bitch about cambium not being forthright about a product flaw, but they do tend to ultimately make things right, even on out of

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

in" > To: "afmug" > Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. > it was in warranty, > at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't > weatherseal the connec

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

ot; To: "afmug" Sent: 4/20/2017 10:55:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. it was in warranty, at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal the connectors). after a bit of complaining they did

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too. it was in warranty, at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal the connectors). after a bit of complaining they did cover it.   Roland       > We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water. We took it apart and d

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Oh wow. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, we will have to inspect the ones we have in our office. Tushar > On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: > > We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one > day it was just offline without any warning. W

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

> Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? Turns out you pull power for a second then restore it quickly. Log into 169.254.1.1 within 30 seconds and select default mode.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

Nope but it's probably in the manual ;) -Sean On Tuesday, April 5, 2016, Matt wrote: > Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i? >

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i Default Codeplug

Anyone know how to do a default codeplug on PMP450i and PTP450i?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes but I don’t know anyone making agile filters for this freq. I did it at 450MHz 30 years ago with a stepper on a duplexer. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Could a filter have a mechanical lever or switch to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

invented a good front end filter that is not mechanical and somewhat fixed. Hard to do that with software. *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Seriously!

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yet invented a good front end filter that is not mechanical and somewhat fixed. Hard to do that with software. *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Serio

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

.@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Dude, there's interference everywhere in the 900 band. Cordless phones, baby monitors, security systems, smart meters, SCADA.. and the list goes on.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Dude, there's interference everywhere i

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

day, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > Dude, there's interference everywhere in the 900 band. Cordless phones, > baby monitors, security systems, smart meters, SCADA.. and the list goes on. > > On 3/24/2016 11:23 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Unless Yogi Bear is monitoring BooBoo with a baby monitor, in this particular location, I think I’m okay. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Dude, there's interfe

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

think I’ll have interference issues from other sources. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

lf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere to go > when one or two sectors is experiencing interference. Or you ha

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere to go when one or two sectors is experiencing interference. Or you have to drop down to 5MHz channel bandwidth which sucks. This is why we do 4x90 clusters. Two channels with wiggle room. Of course that&#x

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ght now I’m interested in throughput per antenna and what kind of throughput to expect with GPS. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

learnin’ to do. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:08 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Well, if you want small... there's these, I'm not sure I'd want to try doing channel re-use with them t

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 degree. Straight from the horse’s mouth is the 65 and the 90 are the same antenna. Just more rol

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Well, if you want small... there's these, I'm not sure I'd want to try doing channel re-use with them though. http://itelite.net/en/Katalog/900-MHz//SEC-XL0911DP.html<http://itelite.net/en/Katalog/900-MHz/SEC-XL0911DP.html> On Wed, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

t;> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i >> >> >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

> > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 d

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 degree. Straight from the horse’s mouth is the 65 and the 90 are the same antenna. Just more role off to achieve the 90. I have tested it outside of the 65 degree but within the 90. I was not happy with the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 degree. Straight from the horse’s mouth is the 65 and the 90 are the same antenna. Just more role off to achieve the 90. I have tested it outside of the 65 degree but within the 90. I was not happ

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

om] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i There's an OEM 90*... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 23, 2016 11:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" wr

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Rory, if you're talking about the 5GHz 450i with the integrated 90 degree sector.. Cambium, Matt specifically I believe, has said that you do not want to use that version of the AP in a typical cluster config. It does not have the F/B ratio that regular sector antennas have. That's more for the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

If I remember correctly, it's 65 at -3dB, so it's basically what is usually sold as a 90 degree these days (-6dB). On Mar 23, 2016 10:10 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > There's an OEM 90*... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

There's an OEM 90*... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 23, 2016 11:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > I looked at the 450i and noticed the sector antenna is 65 degrees. Does > that mean a typical tower installation uses 6 antennas

[AFMUG] Cambium 450i

I looked at the 450i and noticed the sector antenna is 65 degrees. Does that mean a typical tower installation uses 6 antennas? In that scenario, I'm assuming 10MHz channels if there is no interference. In that scenario, what is the available bandwidth per AP assuming most users get pretty go

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

t;>> laptops, tablets and many low to mid range android phones are 2.4 only. >>>> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid >>>>> 2.4GHz where p

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

s. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it helps a lot to choose the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

*To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

7:31 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > +1 Almost Steve Jones quality. :) > > On 2/17/2016 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Very poetic. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

o:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-234

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o:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

etic. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left > and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. > &g

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

+1 Almost Steve Jones quality. :) On 2/17/2016 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Very poetic. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mea

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

Very poetic. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 93

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

are 2.4 only. >>> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: >>> >>>> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid >>>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

day, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it helps a lot to choose the 2.4 GHz channel on the home WiFi AP for eac

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

a collaboration feature should make them play nice, not fight to the death. *From:* Rory Conaway <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I understand guys. I’ll

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

android phones are 2.4 only. >>> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: >>> >>>> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid >>>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

*Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other structures, it helps a lot to choose t

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

ay nice, not fight to the death. > > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are. > > > > Ro

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

make them play nice, not fight to the death. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

d >>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

avoid 2.4GHz where possible. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are around the same 3 1/4 inch length https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa so w

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

I understand guys. I’ll work it out when I figure out what my radios are. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Also trying to get a good signal in the far reaches

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

the houses. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an ohm meter, measure the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

Also trying to get a good signal in the far reaches of some houses can be a lot more challenging at 5 GHz than 2.4 GHz. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Until customers complain their stuff doesn't wo

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

gt;> Kuhnke >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >> >> >> >> I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame houses/other >> structures, it helps a lot to cho

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

ossible. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > I should add that in a typical enviro

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid 2.4GHz where possible. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I should add that in a typical

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

ot; wrote: > I may set up a test for this in couple weeks. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

I may set up a test for this in couple weeks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz 2.4 in 10 MHz channels goes through a decent amount of trees within 1-2 miles

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside >> the houses. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM &

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

to:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

es. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

> Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree

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So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside the houses. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz I have not measured one, but if someone

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absorbing foam on some of their surfaces that operate by similar principles. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa

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I like yagisand Miyagi as well On Feb 17, 2016 2:52 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Those are the worst for 900. > > *From:* Sam Lambie > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:45 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > Tho

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yet... stay tuned... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz There isn't a good antenna option that's any less gain than the 12dbi yagis at this point anyway... there are some 10db panels out there, but noth

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Those are the worst for 900. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Those look like ponderosa trees to me. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: How about compared to the legacy 900Mhz product

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:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > > those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are > very similar to the wave length

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t;>> The length of the needles matter. >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>> >>> >>> Realistically, what kind

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? >> >> The length of the needles matter. >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >> >> >> Realistically, what kind of distances do y

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ay, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ

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About 40W Eirp :) On 02/17/2016 01:51 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? *Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net

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I'd estimate .25-.5mi if your tower is 30ft above the tree line. 1 mile of your 100ft higher. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? > > > Rory Conaway •

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esday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of > trees? > > > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th

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Those look like ponderosa trees to me. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > How about compared to the legacy 900Mhz product how does it perform? > > Sean Heskett wrote: > >> those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are >> very similar to the wave len

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How about compared to the legacy 900Mhz product how does it perform? Sean Heskett wrote: those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are very similar to the wave length. i'd guess you could still go a mile or two if the noise floor is decent (pine trees will probably

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Good question. I’ll have to ask. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? The length of the needles matter. From: Rory Conaway<mailt

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Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? The length of the needles matter. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of trees? Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless

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Can’t go above, park land. A mile would actually be fine if that’s the case. Are Yagi’s necessary for that distance? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

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those are the worst kind of trees for 900Mhz because the pine needles are very similar to the wave length. i'd guess you could still go a mile or two if the noise floor is decent (pine trees will probably help the noise floor ;) if you can get up high above the trees then the path thru the trees

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

quot;af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:37 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Aaron, I know it's asking allot, but can the 450i be

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