Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

Skype: wout.de.natris denatriscons...@hotmail.nl<mailto:denatriscons...@hotmail.nl> http://www.denatrisconsult.nl Blog http://woutdenatris.wordpress.com From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of anti-abuse-w

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 145, Issue 7

to you as the Dynamic Coalition's coordinator. Thank you again, as your comments are very valuable to us. Kind regards, Wout de Natris IS3C: Making the Internet more secure and safer From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Tuesday

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg post from h...@interall.co.il requires approval

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Webinar 25 January 2023

Sorry! There was a typo in my message! The webinar will begin at 9:00 UTC (10:00 CET). Regards, Gerardo Viviers RIPE NCC Learning & Development > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Gerardo Viviers > Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Webinar 25 January 2023 > Date: 2 Ja

[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Webinar 25 January 2023

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call

, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet Sent

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call

Hi, I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you. Cheers, Alun On 12 Aug 2022, at 12:19, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > Brian et al >   > I like the content, but I

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call

Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg > wrote: > > Brian et al > > I like the content, but I don’t see how this could be delivered in one hour. > There are 55 slides. > That’s roughly 1 slide per minute. > > Michele > > > -- > Mr Michele Neylo

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call

From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet Date: Friday, 12 August 2022 at 09:30 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. Colleagues, As

[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Final? Draft Slides & Zoom Call

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[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training - Next iteration of goals and design

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Steve Atkins Sent: Tuesday 19 October 2021 10:47 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

On Sat 23/Oct/2021 01:38:56 +0200 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message <26f1df33-b958-bed4-f748-f82324d0b...@tana.it>, Alessandro Vesely wrote: Shouldn't there be a standard for automatically forwarding messages destined to abuse-c following a path similar to that of RFC 2317 delegations?

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

On Fri 22/Oct/2021 23:26:23 +0200 Ángel González Berdasco wrote: Hello all Shouldn't there be a standard for automatically forwarding messages destined to abuse-c following a path similar to that of RFC 2317 delegations? I'd love if AA training encouraged such behavior. I don't think the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

In message <26f1df33-b958-bed4-f748-f82324d0b...@tana.it>, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >Shouldn't there be a standard for automatically forwarding messages destined >to abuse-c following a path similar to that of RFC 2317 delegations? I'd love >if AA training encouraged such behavior. Although

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

Hello all > Shouldn't there be a standard for automatically forwarding messages > destined to abuse-c following a path similar to that of RFC 2317 > delegations? I'd love if AA training encouraged such behavior. I don't think the standard should be for automatically forwarding messages. You

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

Hi all, On Mon 18/Oct/2021 18:40:06 +0200 Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote: 3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of interest? A lot of hosting providers aren’t LIRs, but are getting IP space from LIRs. Maybe providing materials

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

> On 19 Oct 2021, at 10:14, Erik Bais wrote: > > Hi Brian & AA-WG, > > I think that an AA automation training would be very helpful for the members. > > For what I had in mind is to get attendees experience with tools like Netbox > (for address management among other things..), and 1 or

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

training on this subject. Regards, Erik Bais On 15/10/2021, 11:15, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet" wrote: Colleagues, As you may remember the WG Co-Chairs have been talking to the NCC about some possible Anti-Abuse training in March of this year. This

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

d,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845 *From: *anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet *Date: *Friday, 15 October 2021 at 10:15 *To: *anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net *Subject: *[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution whe

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

Hi, On 15-10-2021 11:14, Brian Nisbet wrote: 1) Would training, as described, be of interest to you? Yes, we (AS12859) would be interested. I hope it will help new colleagues in getting a good understanding of the issues. 2) Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

Hi, On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 04:40:06PM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > 1. Would training, as described, be of interest to you? > Potentially for new staff if the materials were available ie. As a resource Indeed, that would be helpful. (And I'm not volunt

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

ttps://ceo.hosting/ --- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Brian Nisbet Date: Friday, 15 October 2021 at 10:15 To: anti-abus

[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

due to enormous IPv6 address space and v6 spammers constantly changing their prefixes, it is not clear yet what are the best practices fighting IPv6 abuses. Despite the difficulties on defining anti-abuse, the WG considers that a training activity about anti-abuse could be of great help. Anti-a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Working Group Chair Selection - RIPE 82

s come and Brian's 3-year term as AA-WG Co-Chair will come to > an end at RIPE 82. > I would like to invite you for nominations, which could be done by > yourself or others via email before Friday 7th of May. > As explained here > https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/ant

[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Working Group Chair Selection - RIPE 82

-abuse/anti-abuse-wg-chair-selection-process The AA-WG chair selection process would be reached over consensus, but if consensus cannot be reached, there will be a procedure for voting. The selection process outcome will be announced during the AA-WG session on Wednesday 19th of May. Cheers

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 100, Issue 2

ail.nl> http://www.denatrisconsult.nl Blog http://woutdenatris.wordpress.com ____ From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:00 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 100, Issue 2 Send anti-abuse

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

On Thu 13/Feb/2020 05:26:10 +0100 Fi Shing wrote: > All OVH and DigitalOcean abuse reports must be submitted via the abuse > reporting forms on the website, or they won't be actioned: >   > https://www.ovh.com/world/abuse/ >   > https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/abuse/ I'm unable to

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

Tried that also, and doesn't work for OVH, for Digital Ocean some times. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 13/2/20 5:27, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Fi Shing" escribió: All OVH and DigitalOcean abuse reports must be submitted via the abuse reporting forms on t

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

All OVH and DigitalOcean abuse reports must be submitted via the abuse reporting forms on the website, or they won't be actioned: https://www.ovh.com/world/abuse/ https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/abuse/ - Original Message - Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

Hi, On Wed 12/Feb/2020 18:43:54 +0100 Alex de Joode wrote: > > The abuse notification below, is absolutely terrible: it only highlights the > OVH IP that was used, however it completely fails to identify the IP/hostname > that was "attacked", no action (other than forward the notice to the user

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

12/2/20 18:51, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Javier Martín" escribió: Hi all. This one of the abuse emails that cries out to heaven. There is an idiot who does not stop attacking us and does not answer the abuse email. Someone knows what to do in this cases? RIPE said that is not

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

​IPVolume/Incrediserv, are the new incantation of 'Ecatel'. 'Good luck' (try to peer with them and throttle the bw/ to 28k8 modem speed, lessens the impact somewhat).​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode On Wed, 12-02-2020 18h 50min, Javier Martín

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

Hi all. This one of the abuse emails that cries out to heaven. There is an idiot who does not stop attacking us and does not answer the abuse email. Someone knows what to do in this cases? RIPE said that is nothing to do because there is not a "return from their server" to our email. This

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

Alessandro, The abuse notification below, is absolutely terrible: it only highlights the OVH IP that was used, however it completely fails to identify the IP/hostname that was "attacked", no action (other than forward the notice to the user of the IP) can be taken.​ Please in the future

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

On Wed 12/Feb/2020 09:51:22 +0100 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > The RIPE WHOIS data base says that the abose contact for AS16276 is > ab...@ovh.net. > > It would appear thet the folks at OVH haven't yet quite figured how > this whole email thing works. > > Give them time. Another decade or two

[anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

The RIPE WHOIS data base says that the abose contact for AS16276 is ab...@ovh.net. It would appear thet the folks at OVH haven't yet quite figured how this whole email thing works. Give them time. Another decade or two and they should have it down pat. --- Forwarded Message Date:12

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse WG Draft RIPE 78 Agenda

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[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse WG Draft RIPE 78 Agenda

Colleagues, Here is the draft agenda for RIPE 78. Our meeting will be taking place at 09:00 GMT on Thursday 23rd May. If you have any additional items for the agenda, please contact aa-wg-ch...@ripe.net as soon as possible. A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Scribe, Jabber,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

In message <28f8ca64-f298-4a5b-99d0-411f96c56...@gmail.com>, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >Come to think of it, Philip and Geoff have been presenting their CIDR report >on aggregation for even longer than that. I haven't seen their list of >prefixes that could do with a ton of aggregation

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 01:48:07PM +0100, Carlos Friaas wrote: Imho, that will also depend on this regulator's f-u-n-d-i-n-g model. Or are we supposed to see the uprising of a "FIR" (EU Federal Internet Registry), building on the NIR concept...? :-) That's exactly what I think *will* happen.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

Hi, On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: (...) And who would be doing that regulation? - some EC org (service region goes way beyond EU...) We will see this "EU Internet Regulator" within the term of the next EU Commission / EUPARL. The (probably) next commisssion president Manfred

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:23:12AM +0100, Carlos Friaas wrote: So you seem to prefer regulation over self-regulation? Not per se, just that I'd prefer governmental regulation over the kind of regulation 2019-03 envisions. And who would be doing that regulation? - some EC org (service region

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

Hi, Thanks Wolfgang and Suresh, That's something i have been probably saying in between the lines: it would be easier for anyone on the Internet to evaluate if an hijack took place if more people (or most people) would share their routing views. :-) Carlos On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Wolfgang

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

by other than policy based means. --srs On 05/04/19, 12:44 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Wolfgang Tremmel" wrote: Which is why services like RIPE RIS are so valuable to the community. If anybody would just send its full BGP table to RIS detecting hijacks (and late

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote: Yes, this is also my opinion. The community should do something against this abusive behavior. If it isn't done by the community there might be some regulation coming from

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 -- was about 2019-03

Hi, On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote: People generally hijack prefixes in order to make money. If hijacked prefixes are not generally visible in the internet, then the value of the hijacking is a good deal lower because the reach is smaller. It depends on the purpose, and if

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

Which is why services like RIPE RIS are so valuable to the community. If anybody would just send its full BGP table to RIS detecting hijacks (and later proofing that they happened) would be much easier. If you do not know what I am talking about, read:

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

On 04/04/2019 21:36, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote: Also I would to remind all the community that usually what happens to communities that cannot regulate themselves is that some outsider comes and regulated them... Yes, this is

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Nick Hilliard Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 3:19 AM To: Carlos Friaças Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net; Ronald F. Guilmette Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 04/04/2019 21:58: > On Thu, 4

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote: Yes, this is also my opinion. The community should do something against this abusive behavior. If it isn't done by the community there might be some regulation coming from outside, i.e. political entities. And I doubt that

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 04/04/2019 21:58: On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Wny have Tier 1 providers not stepped up and done a much better job of policing hijacks better than they have done? Not all hijacks reach the so-called DFZ. "Partial visibility&quo

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

Hi, On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message <20190404183631.gz97...@space.net>, Gert Doering wrote: Still targeting the wrong crowd. A few willing Tier1 ISPs would have way more effect than all policies we do in RIPE land against a rogue ISP that might not even *be* a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

In message <20190404183631.gz97...@space.net>, Gert Doering wrote: >Still targeting the wrong crowd. A few willing Tier1 ISPs would have way >more effect than all policies we do in RIPE land against a rogue ISP that >might not even *be* a RIPE member (or a member of any LIR). It is a fair

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

Hi, On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote: > > Also I would to remind all the community that usually what happens to > > communities that cannot regulate themselves is that some outsider comes > > and regulated them... > > Yes, this is also my opinion. The community

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

> Also I would to remind all the community that usually what happens to > communities that cannot regulate themselves is that some outsider comes > and regulated them... Yes, this is also my opinion. The community should do something against this abusive behavior. If it isn't done by the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 88, Issue 72

Sorry off topic. How Come I subscribed to digest yet getting multiple mails per day? Cheers/DP On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 22:53 wrote: > Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions to > anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >

[anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Working Group Co-Chair Election

Hello everybody, as "the other" co-chair of the Anti-Abuse Working Group I want to inform everybody here on the list, that Brians term is coming to an end and we'll have an election at the next RIPE Meeting in Marseille. Brian told me that he will be happy to serve another term if that'll be the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] *** Re: Abuse Police

"Some countries don't agree with a rule, therefore there should be no rules"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anarchy"Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose""Absence of any form of authority." Original Message -------- Subjec

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] *** Re: Abuse Police

ht think robbing banks is ok because the banks can > afford it. That doesn't mean laws aren't enacted because "not > everyone" agrees with it. > > > ---- Original Message > > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Police > > From: ox <an...@ox.

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Not Abuse

On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:31:53 +0200 peter h wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 09.17, ox wrote: > > Hi All, > > Some spammers are now sending "verify your email account" spam > > abuse. > I would say that sending a single unsolicited "verify your email > account" IS SPAM The

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Not Abuse

On Tuesday 15 August 2017 09.17, ox wrote: > Hi All, > > Some spammers are now sending "verify your email account" spam abuse. I would say that sending a single unsolicited "verify your email account" IS SPAM The keyword here is "unsolicited" This is not the same as a mail sent as a respons

[anti-abuse-wg] Not Abuse

Hi All, Some spammers are now sending "verify your email account" spam abuse. When an email address is submitted and a vendor confirms that email address (prior to subscribing it to a bulk mail list, etc) : imho, sending a single (one) email to verify/confirm every 24 hour period - with a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2

list is. So children, are you rage? Take a little jump until France. The Pasteur Institute has a vaccine. I'm wrong? Well, post again my message ... Marilson From: anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:00 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 67

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

espect to civil society it is to defend and hire the services of people who should be arrested. Heil Coetzee! Marilson From: ox Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:21 AM To: Marilson Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists On Sat, 27 May 2017 21:26:42 -0300 "M

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

d one, what I need >is a user manual... The user manual of a crystal ball is a dishonest mind. Are you sure you need one? Marilson From: ox Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:39 AM To: Marilson Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists On Sat, 27 May 2017 21:42:11

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

rritating and extorting people. Denouncing is my duty as a citizen. If you continue to call your competitors from criminal companies someone will call you Pot. :) Marilson *From:* ox <mailto:an...@ox.co.za> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 6:38 AM *To:* Marilson <mailto:marilson.m...@gmail.com>

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

On Sat, 27 May 2017 21:42:11 -0300 "Marilson" wrote: > I did not know my English is so bad. I do not know spfbl.net and I do > not use information from anti-spam companies because my research is > more appropriate than yours. You are rambling and have a bad habit of >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

On Sat, 27 May 2017 21:26:42 -0300 "Marilson" wrote: > > If you continue to call your competitors from criminal companies > someone will call you Pot. :) > No, firstly, there is no competition between lists... All lists have different data and sometimes different

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

. :) Marilson From: ox Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:38 AM To: Marilson Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists On Fri, 26 May 2017 05:24:51 -0300 "Marilson" <marilson.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > look at the headers of this email, check my het

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

On Fri, 26 May 2017 05:24:51 -0300 "Marilson" wrote: > > look at the headers of this email, check my hetzner.de IP number > > and then do the same for other reporting systems... > BTW, your WordPress is outdated (under 4.7.5). Website outdated means > "high risk" and

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

On Fri, 26 May 2017 05:24:51 -0300 "Marilson" wrote: > > look at the headers of this email, check my hetzner.de IP number > > and then do the same for other reporting systems... > OMG, you are using Hetzner.de as a sender! An ISP with a dirty > history of repression of

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

. Marilson From: anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:00 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8 Send anti-abuse-wg mailing list submissions to anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https

[anti-abuse-wg] fake abuse lists

Hello, Can anyone share any experiences with: http://spfbl.net/en/dnsbl/ It seems that they list servers that are used to file complaints with Spamcop and other blacklists - as "spam" servers... They do not de-list these servers, ever, and it seems like a criminal enterprise or services

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2

y, by hook or by crook. Although I do not agree with your truth about spam, I must respect the way you expose your truth without hypocrisy, without subterfuge, with honesty. I can not say the same about your detractors in this group. Marilson From: anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Sunday, Apri

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 28

s (used for dissemination of malware, trojan downloaders, botnet controllers)." Which only includes netblocks allocated from RIR and NIR. Marilson From: anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:47 AM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking abuse/phishing/malware email content

> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > --- > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business > Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: > 370845 > > On 28/02/20

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 12

f course, manage your subscription: <https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg> Regards, Rob

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 12

nker Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:52 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net ; Marilson Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 12 trump is the president of the usa, not of the internet. btw. trump prefers to use 'twitter'. not 'email'. twitter does have the option to select wh

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 10

the movie Miyazaki's Spirited Away. A dark tale where Chihiro has to satisfy a series of grotesque customers. And always working in the shadows under the cloak of "refined persons". Marilson -- From: anti-abu

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 8

ypocritical. Your concept of morality and good manners is unworthy and rotten. It is based on appearance and hypocrisy. If I had a time machine I would send you to your dear 50's America. With love from 1950s Marilson From: anti-abuse-wg-requ...@ripe.net Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 9:00 AM To: anti-ab

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 3

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 00:27:40 -0200 "Marilson" wrote: > Dear Andre, do not be so severe with my friend Olaf, the Prince of > Spam. He is not 'behaving like a spammer', he is a spammer and does > not hide it. 'Sending multiple emails, one after the other' is force > of

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 63, Issue 3

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33

. - From: HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:05 PM To: Marilson ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Cc: an...@ox.co.za Subject: Re: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33

Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:57 PM To: Marilson ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Cc: an...@ox.co.za Subject: Re: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33 the revenue on 'spam' is -nothing-. as the magical 'spammer that can pay the invoices you send him' does

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 28

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

Richard, We are in agreement about despots, thank you for adding semantics and details. In order to communicate the problem, I found that it is required to argue it in terms of "post-truth" otherwise, your pov will be rejected, outright or, at best, result in very long explanations (and being

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue 9

protecting criminals. As always, civil society will force its rulers to intervene in this catastrophe because politicians fear their constituents. Who will bring politicians to "into this" will be you guys who turned this anti-abuse-wg into a pro-abuse-wg. > Who defines waht is

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message , ox writes >The Bind software is the dominant DNS software on the planet. > >The IETF doc, relating to RPZ - is intended for Bind ops. Not really -- it's an attempt to document what Bind does in a way that will make it

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:43:33 +0100 Thomas Mechtersheimer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 12:04:19PM +0200, ox wrote: > >[...] > > But, you neglected to add - That is is not socially acceptable to > > define protocols for defrauding people, to tell lies, commit > > deception, >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 12:04:19PM +0200, ox wrote: >[...] > But, you neglected to add - That is is not socially acceptable to > define protocols for defrauding people, to tell lies, commit deception, Who defines waht is socially acceptable? btw: most phishing pages use HTTP; HTTP is used for

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 06:30:32 + Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > If you want to lodge your opposition with IETF about a potential > protocol / standard / $thing there are mechanisms to do so. However > you would need to get past your emotive arguments and focus on

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 16:43:44 + Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > Nobody is forcing anyone to use RPZ. There are thousands of IETF > documents covering a multitude of technologies, both real and > imagined (just look at the avian carriers series). > You are missing

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

Nobody is forcing anyone to use RPZ. There are thousands of IETF documents covering a multitude of technologies, both real and imagined (just look at the avian carriers series). Personally I used to have issues with the concept of RPZ when it was first raised years ago, but my views have

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

y inconvenient things the Big 5 Multinationals spin any way they like. Andre > --srs > > On 05/01/17, 3:34 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of ox" > <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net on behalf of an...@ox.co.za> wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:37:36 +1300 >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of ox" <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net on behalf of an...@ox.co.za> wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:37:36 +1300 Mark Foster <blak...@gmail.com> wrote: > Replying against my better judgement, as Andre appears to be Trolling

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:37:36 +1300 Mark Foster wrote: > Replying against my better judgement, as Andre appears to be Trolling > for all he's worth. > But on the off chance... > It seems, every time in post-truth, when positions are indefensible, the name calling starts?

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

Replying against my better judgement, as Andre appears to be Trolling for all he's worth. But on the off chance... On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:32 PM, ox wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:42:38 -0800 > "Luis E. Muñoz" wrote: > > > On 3 Jan 2017, at 2:30, ox

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] DNS Abuse, Abuse of Privacy & Legitimizing Criminal Activity

On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:42:38 -0800 "Luis E. Muñoz" wrote: > On 3 Jan 2017, at 2:30, ox wrote: > > When it becomes a "STANDARD" (ACCEPTABLE) and nefarious behavior is > > suddenly "the way things work" - then this is of serious concern. > > You seem to be assigning intent

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