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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Bader rjb1166@... wrote:
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Really now - to put it real real simple, what a fuc-ing joke.
The state gives $100 million to a system that is so out of control so they can
do what - sue the people that give you the money.
I wanted a banana bike, I got a 5 speed sears.
If anyone wants to chip in on an ad, I think I'm at the
Unbelievable.
You haven't been around long enough Dan.
This is really believable.
this will rack up another $1m in legal fees for the boe, paid for by the state
(ok, claim your 3% as a city property owner). The state pays both ends of the
legal bills.
I think the state should have to
I still haven't been able to read the whole article.
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Judge Mark Apostolou is resigning end of June as AP Muni judge.
Only in AP did I sit there in amazement as he more or less let some people I
would have tossed in jail instead of rehab programs. I guess he attempts to
give people a chance at getting better.
When the weather is bad outside,
not twice.
Walking the BW last night my friend and I were down to 7th ave.
These 2 younger cute girls approach this soon to be 50 year old -
excuse me...do you have $5.00 - we were on the beach today and someone took
our wallet and we have no money to get back to verona...
I told them I had
There were quite a few people milling around around 8:30 last night.
I saw around 4 cops on the BW.
It would of been nice if they stopped the kids on the 4 seater bicycle trying
to mow people down.
He just watched them go buy.
Are those snow plows allowed on the boardwalk or not? Does the
At least they doubled up on some of them.
they were working on them last night around 7pm when I rode past on my bike.
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residents. Bergh, forget about it, and there's no way I'll park at night
on Bergh between AP Ave and 1st because it's a high break-in area. What
value do I then get to give the city $30 basically for nothing?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
Good
A guy in Ocean Twp had his yard sale this am.
Of all the crap he had for sale, there was a big dumpster. So i stick my nose
in and came up with a box filled of Asbury PArk Sunday Evening Press and other
AP related goodies - scrapbook from AP HIGH 1950's with a couple varsity A
etc., class
Instead of working parking meters, have signs that say FREE PARKING - Courtesy
of Asbury Park Police and Mayor and Council plastered across the pay stations.
so instead of addressing the functioning of the broken meters, give up tens
of thousands of dollars in revenue.
If the old ones were so
I don't think anyone noticed now or will really notice when it doubles.
Nice weather, things to do and parking is still CHEAP for a tourist parking
spot and 1 minute walk.
I didn't see any merchants handing me a free ice cream or free drink before I
REALLY get into summer mode.
The city needs
If you lose $1.5 million income, I wouldn't go bragging about it.
As I said before, many many places I go where I have to pay for parking, the
merchant(s) usually stamp your receipt and on your way out of the parking lot
you show your validated receipt.
I haven't been to point in years nor
Do the math.
how many parking spaces?
how many hours?
forget the turn of spaces.
Outsource it.
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Good question.
1. You should have a resident sticker / resident parking on each block. (BLue
sticker, blue zone parking, red sticker, red zone parking etc )
2. there was never enough residential parking for single family homes in
today's world. So that would make sense that when you take s
ps... at $30 per , the city will probably lose money printing and other admin
costs.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote:
Good question.
1. You should have a resident sticker / resident parking on each block. (BLue
sticker, blue zone parking, red sticker, red
True in a downtown area where you need turnover. Not true within the bea
hfront area. Why have beachfees. You can have free parking then raise the
commercial tax rate. How much is the city collecting in tax revenues from
boardwalk buildings. Whose to pay for police and the rest? Ho.eowners
This part is in the article below, but worth reading twice...maybe 10
times.
ASBURY gets to continue to be a billion dollar district with the highest per
student cost in the state. If you really tied to cost to graduation rate - the
cost is probably $100,000 per kid.
For example, that
Has anyone received a traffic ticket for running a traffic signal 7th and
Kingsley?
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well if you speak to a lawyer, they say just plead guilty (or my son should,
since you bribe down the ticket if you haven't had 2 in the last 5
but if you do that, you're being lazy or guilty. Clever system to speed up the
system and collect $.
Then since most people are lazy or guilty or
The parking sticker being sold with the ticket is the smart thing to do.
Will you be driving to the event?
No _
Yes_
If yes, then tack on parking fee of $5 per car. The lot next to the pony can
and should be used for their preferred event parking. Every major venue now
does this.
Jack
most businesses love the crowds that come.
But who is supposed to pay for them? the businesses that take in some of that
extra cash maybe should pay?
You bring in crowds of people charge $20 bucks to park $6 for a dog and $4 for
a slice $6 for a beer...
Pay $5 for a glowy thing.
some
the best RB fireworks I ever went to was a guy i knew who had a house in Locust
on the Navesink.. all catered.
Tag along.
But nothing better then sitting on the beach.
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Beach fee dan...?
Keep them low so no one can ser without paying
Add a fourth of july fee to every bar tab.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
I already paid to see fireworks, with 4yrs and 10months in the Marine Corps
Pay to see fireworks? What a joke
Sent
nice to see someone called back from AP. I'd rather someone from the PD instead
of some large parking authority.
as for the NY PD, they were nice as well when I had to schlep to brooklyn tow
yard to get my daughters car out. All the people working there were
handicapped. Very nice dealing
Maybe we just don't know all the facts. Then again the letter starts like
thus...Dear governor ;
The children of Asbury Park need your help as do the taxpayers of nj who fund
nearly the entire school budget...
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fyi...
got a call back from the AP PD about my question on where the employees may
park.
As of now, they are going to be able to park on Kingsley and west. The PD is
supposed to be handing out brochures or something letting everyone know. He
didn't seem 100% sure about Employee parking on
Well, I know my daughter has NO intention of parking that far west.
I had to drop her off today as her car was in for repairs... ...look dad,
THATS where they where we would have to park if we go for free...
...do you know what that is like at 11:30 at night...scary as shit...you have
to walk
Does anyone have any idea where the Employee Zones are?? I called the APPU
got an answering machine. Website doesn't have the zones and city website has
to be updated
Whatever happened to Istar making their empty lots into parking lots?
Did anyone bother to TEST the new pay stations?
they don't have that role model in Asbury.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
dan...I don't believe in closing the schools. Just address fairly:
As was in the press
dan...I don't believe in closing the schools. Just address fairly:
As was in the press:
a) The state auditor's report, which covers the period July 2009 to December
2010, The Asbury Park School District continues to
In a small district like asbury park with little voting taking place to begin
with its fairly easy to figure out to get people elected. Not just asbury but
any little town that has more of one party vs another.
It blows the mindfrom what you read in the paper the circus on the school board.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
I think charging boardwalk employee's $100 a year to park is absolutely
ridiculous.
Well if my kids go to work 5 days per week x 12 weeks - that's 60 parking days.
I guess it's cheaper then parking in the lots all parking in
If my kids work those 12 weeks..june july august...at the same rate that's 60
days. That's about $1.66 per day they work. If I were running the city I
would not let them occuppy a space that can make MORE money per day.
If you ever tipped after eating or drinking on the bw I don't feel bad.
Technology is real neat.
Nice you can print beach tickets from the meters - and probably anything you
want to have programmed in. I'd leave it real SIMPLE since most people can't
figure it out. Leave the pay station for parking. MAYBE on the BW put in a few
machines to do both.
It comes down to this:
1. Property owners aren't paying their fair share in AP. While someone might
scream they are paying $10k in property taxes - they aren't paying school
taxes.
2. Property owners, like those in Wesley and N Beach pay how much in taxes over
the next how many years?
3.
My kids BOTH work on the BW and have for over a year and two years, as do some
of their friends.
They try to get scheduled together so it's one car.
Last year, when they parked free - they got lucky had a couple tickets -
which I told them to go to court for but out of being lazy didn't
You are entitled to your own opinion. No doubt about that. Too many things
have been free around here. And to Oak, close the AP schools. They don't
work. End the free lunches in AP.
Thanks Dan...
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$100 - why it is free
in the past year, she worked avg four days week - every weekend fri, sat, sun.
Call it 200 days.
Under $1 PER DAY to park.
Don't buy a pack of smokes.
Live longer.
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when it comes down to what the employees can afford to pay... if it's minimum
wage (which it's not)...
1. Get another job
2. Work harder
3. Please graduate college. Not that today - that makes a world of difference.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@... wrote:
I'm
another opportunity to be in AP muni court today - here'a a few notes:
1. Some guy walking through a metal detector was checking his own pockets -
realizes he had something in there and the officer suggested he take it outside
or in his car. The guy took the advice, walked outside the door to
It's not his fault. Its the system. He's hard working. With two kids that drive
I've been so lucky to be the good dad who goes with his kids and stood before
him as he lectured themin deal. In eatontown and now as asbury park
residents by way of working hard...on asbury park.
The system
hope you all enjoyed it.
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Cookman continues to evolve -
Lazy Dog revamped from Harrisons..
Glad to see Dino around. For those that might not have been around ap in the
old days when it was - Dino began his career at his dad's on the BW -
Ducky's..
Sackman is going to town on the rehab of the 500 block...
Monroe
.
They also specialize in BBQ chicken. I had it last night. Very yummy.
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hope you all enjoyed it.
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1. Just listed a 12,000 sq ft mansion - 105 yr old in Long Branch. 3 stories
on 1.7 acres. 6 car garage, tennis court, heated pool etc. Wonderful property
and mostly original interior. First $4,600,000 takes it
2. OR enjoy Asbury Park and buy 1411 memorial drive classic old warehouse -
.
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Thanks.
I want to put together a dining guide for the rest of Asbury Park..
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
Here's my new breakfast and dining tip for AP. La Sierra, on Main between
1st and Asbury
While it may make Werner happy -
what's the story with the STREET LIGHTS?
Who's responsible for fixing them along ocean Ave, 1st ave etc.
Saturday night they weren't lit again when we went around 10pm to Cubacon..
some are out and missing along O Avenue and the rest of the streets.
Makes for
nothing, nothing in th world beats my mother's brisket.
yea, it's not cheap and the staff has to brush up on the menu.
I still wish a real diner would open on the bw with diner prices.
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Regards - Wb
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
While it may make Werner happy -
what's the story with the STREET LIGHTS?
Who's responsible for fixing them along ocean Ave, 1st ave etc.
Saturday night they weren't lit again when we went around 10pm
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
Remove AC's when were not home?
Ill hop right on that
So they push them in (your ac unit) and hop in. Old trick.
A bit tougher if you bracket them in instead of balancing them in the window
with a towel.
Like i said, at some
Should go to court as the VICTIM.
Ashame, the VICTIM can't afford to hire a lawyer but the suspect gets one
appointed.
The suspect gets all the help in the world - PTI, go see a counselor(s) (anger,
drugs, life, school, parenting...) while the VICTIM gets bored about the
process.
Go to court
In today's APP:
http://goo.gl/hWcgB
the developer wants to have 1.5 parking spaces per unit..
In my experience, most people in NEW JERSEY - when it's 2 people, have TWO
CARS. Or have a friend that has a car - or they have 2 cars - especially if
they are shelling out $500,000 for a 2 bedroom.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote:
...$12k in taxes ..
Imagine if you actually paid a fairer share of school taxes and didn't get a
$10 million handout plus
Good thing.
I was showing a 2 bedroom at Wesley G the other night. S tempting.
Dump my
I know first hand about NYC parking as well, thanks to my precious daughter.
Last friday, she was up in brooklyn for a photoshoot. Maybe something will come
up it...she be like gisele the model so she can repay me.
I call her up at 4pm to see how she's doing. She said she'll call me back in a
I used to collect quotes from forbes magazine.
the along came the internet.
Brainyquote.com is one.
He that would live in peace and at ease must not speak all he knows or all he
sees.
Benjamin Franklin
there's a million good ones.
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driving around yesterday, I did notice they extended the parking lines down
4th (i think that's where i was..) and yes, while the road needed some work
(potholes etc), whomever painted the lines did a good job, given the condition.
Dan should make AP his primary home and become mayor.
Kind
As more and more people use smartphones and become computer (tablet, pc, mac)
experienced, there are many many useful tools being developed.
Calling it Gov 2.0 (for the whole concept...)
I was reading WIRED magazine and came upon an updated story on tools used by
citizens of many towns/cities:
well what do you think Christie would say about AP's real financial condition -
let alone the school system?
maybe something like, It's broken, been broken and all the money spent on it
didn't do the job...
You need reform cause the there's no more piggy banks to crack open.
so traffic lines could be painted. My whole point was incredibly simple -
why not put up signs a few days before like virtually every other place does
concerning things like this.
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well what do you think Christie would say about
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote:
. since there's been a puddle there for about the past 6 years that
never fully goes away, and flood after a rainstorm.
I'd buy a duck.
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Just a failure of zoning planning and mostly the architect and the architectual
review. You should HAVE to use indoor parking
My 3 cents.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@... wrote:
Only $15 for resident parking? Wesley Grove and North Beach residents
are
they also have a great drink menu.
I'm a not a pork fan -so The Ropa Vieja is pefect. The whole menu is great. The
Empanadas are great as well.
While the menu and theme are new - still part of the Stella Marina family
It will be a fun place.
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that's the problem.
Can you buy / rent another indoor spot?
Bad planning. The requirements for pakring for condo units was defined.
Dan what is/was it? 1.5 spaces per 2 bed? Don't recall.
You can't have a requirement fo x spaces per unit, then turn around and then
charge a premium to the
All good things must come to an end - or be reexmained.
It's easy to spend $ but, according to the study it didn;t always work.
Unfortunately over the years, businesses probably came and went along with any
UEZ $ given.
Maybe AP has reached a point where it (marketing) can become self
that need to me addressed. But this
kind of under-the-table compensation is ridiculous.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
interested read about the council members and health insurance.
First of all, I'm sure the members put in more time then the just
And while the job is a thankless one, many people might opt to try it for the
health benefits. Makes you think.
For years as an independent consultant, I had to have my own small group.
Someone might say- you get to write off the costs as an expense... got so
pricey for small group didn't
interested read about the council members and health insurance.
First of all, I'm sure the members put in more time then the just being present
at the council meetings. Sure the idea is volunteer to the job to help
promote and run the city. Everyone else is getting paid, so why should they
Chicago's City Council has drawn a line in the sand when it comes to old,
uncompleted, or empty buildings: make it safe, or go to jail.
Alderman Balcer proposed the measure to send a message to landlords and
investors who procrastinate in bringing buildings up to standards or tearing
them
1. You don't want people getting permits then driving down to the ocean in
the am and then using their car for the rest of the day as a cabana
2. Yea, those kids who work on the bw, work late, have to pay to park in the
lit lots or get a police escort back to their car. Since I have two
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
Given the amount of crime that takes place at night (STILL) and the amount of
prostitutes working Kingsley, MM should be absolutely ASHAMED that they don't
provide safe parking for the BW employees
My kids don't work for MM.
The idea of building condos or multi units is that you the developer was
supposed to provide for 1.5 or 2 (or some variation) of parking spaces per
unit. Pretty fair to say a 2 bedroom should have 2 spaces, a 1 bedroom the 1.5
spaces etc. IT should average out. So you ahve a parking garage
steinbach residents also have to pay to park in their lot if they want to park
in a lot vs street. So they take street parking - taking away from business
customers. IF the city requires developers to provide parking - shouldn't be
allowed to charge for it. I know I know, those that don't have
Cubacan is opening where the boards were. Great menu and setting.
Totally different
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Cameras.
Smile time.
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I know most people don't want to spend money on cameras or are afraid they
might get seen doing something no one knows they do
One of our clients owns a number of strip centers and office buildings - you
don't realize the crap people do to make money
a) we lost about thirteen AC Units
Rather the pd doing that then pulling my kids over on the way to work onthe bw.
one for not using a blinked then the tints...the other for a yellow light. Not
saying they weren't guilty of something. Just going to municourt and you
realize how f'd the system is andhow many fourth chances people
In the year 1942(not 2011) (I like the description back then)
...
MR. JUSTICE FRANKFURTER delivered the opinion of the Court.
A New Jersey statute, adopted in 1931, authorized state control over insolvent
municipalities. By a supplementary law,
This one goes back to the 1950's and the Coleman House land. Involves parking
lots, valuable land, what the city thought should be developed, what the
developer thought should be developed, what the taxpayers wanted and what
vaccaro (not hv)wanted...
++
...he successful
...The protection of the public interest from favoritism, fraud or inadequacy
of price must come from good faith, conscientiousness and hard-headedness of
the governing body in the advance negotiations and in continued diligence after
the sale to assure that conditions and restrictions are
...The councilmen are required to display such intelligence and skill as they
are capable of in discharging the duties of their office, and to be diligent
and conscientious, Driscoll v. Burlington-Bristol Bridge Co., 8 N.J. 433
(1952). Since it is obvious to anyone reading the advertisement of
...Moreover, as plaintiff points out, the change in general economic
conditions affecting real estate development of this type might have reduced
the likelihood of the city obtaining as favorable a proposition on resale. Also
the figures in evidence pose the question of the corporation being
http://goo.gl/poH33
Seems that promo trinkets are on the short list in LB.
Looks like he's trying to get across the message - think twice before you spend
it foolishly.
Maybe spend it like you have to justify the real value - as if it were your own
money instead thinking you just hit the
It will never change.
Over $1 billion dollars.
Especially if you add in the cost of legal fees.
I've said this before.
A school system has to be run by experienced professionals. Like it or not,
EDUCATION is a business. A VERY BIG BUSINESS.
It runs on a $100 million dollar budget (forget
if the development rights were upheld, part of those rights were/are to
take other's property. At least the last few rounds of purchases upheld by the
courts were pretty fair dollar wise. That is, if you really want to be forced
out. You're not talking 1980 dollars any more.
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NOt that I'm the world's best speller, but I'm only on page 7 of the this
propsosal and I have a hard time getting past spelling errors.
Since I did spend some time writing tech docs and system requriements along
with budget reports in past lives, I was told never to stick your name on it
I can see why the judge gave it over to arbitration.
The concept of a city plan is good. I don't really see how it differs from the
current plan.
Creates more options for development within various zones, allows exceptions to
the zones, makes no mention fo contributions to overall
...Lets' face it we are a target as far as the Governor sees
it
Good.
That's what i told my kids when they called me to tell me the ATM ate MY
discover card that they took to go snowboarding. They went, telling me they had
money to go from work - cause I'm done spending on them.
Kind of
School population decreased as did the number of school age children in AP...
today's APP:
http://tinyurl.com/4l22yug
SO WHAT DOES THIS REALLY MEAN??
Lowe said district enrollment dropped from 2,783 eight years ago to 2,063 in
October 2010 and
here's someone's brief analysis of the state of Education in AP:
http://njleftbehind.blogspot.com/2011/03/bleeding-in-asbury-park.html
Barack Obama Elementary's scores are so bad that the number of kids failing
gets replaced on the state data base with an asterisk
I say AP should
On the files section looks like I did this in 2003
Exactly what are the boundries you want to see.
To me an LLC is where it ends. YOu MIGHT be able to see some members or
managing members of an llc, but overall it's meaningless.
Don't know about you, but I a ton of work from everything I
Ok -
First file uploaded. 83 properties under Asbury Partners LLC
Go to files section
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shows 1601 and 1607 Ocean Ave
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then you have of course:
1. Stone Pony Partners
2. Talking Partners (216 Cookman)
3. WhiteFish Partners
4. Skyy6 Holdings (same Mail address as rest - 511 Ocean Ave (owing 1244
Washington Ave)
5. AP Fifteen (214 Cookman)
6. AP Five (201-203 Eigth Ave)
7. MF III Albion showing them as owners 105
Larry still showing:
304 4th ave unit 208 and 1501 Ocean Ave (N Beach) 2211
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The biggest asset which is one mile long is the beach.
The biggest building on the bw was pretty quiet on entertainment last year.
If mm also bought the rights to the phase two and three of wesleygriove how
come no one is yelling at them. And im sure someone may relook at the drawings
again.
...how to solve the problem?
Your last paragraph was excellent.
Start reducing funding for Abbott Districts. Kind of like what Christie wants
to do.
when taxpayers that live in a town pay taxes on their school, maybe things
would change.
I'd guess that if you figured it out, more renters
Werner,
I can export a report that does nothing other then summarize who owns what.
There's no real useful data.
I have no clue as to the true ownership or contracts made between the
parties, lenders, developers ,subdevelopers, city etc etc etc.
You don't know exactly what collateral
don't forget - eliminating funding means you, as a property owner have to step
up to the plate.
another thing christie should do - when a superintendent retires, or a police
chief or any dept head of a muni in NJ, there should be no one in line to jump
right in.
Instead, take 6 months to
Consolidation of muncipal work is a MUST, I'm a HUGE supporter of this.
Still surprised this hasn't caught on more yet
Why are you surprised?
A few decades ago, my first job was at Merrill. Being the guy that got to play
with the first pcs and harvard graphics, I got to hang around to
401 - 500 of 3407 matches
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