You two are off the hook! Seems as though this subject is
regurgitating again!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Then we need to send our City Mgr. to a NY seminar on how they do
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU NOVEMBER 15, 2008
ok.
F'em.
Madison Marquette also does not want paid parking in the evening
hours next summer.
WHY?? So they can
How about this gem;
For 10 to 12 weeks, the city's allowed to charge for parking, and the entire
rest of the
year, we're not, Reidy said. That allows Madison Marquette to control our
destiny.
Control our destiny, such as designing the bandshell right out of the
redevelopment...
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about this gem;
Did I say this
F'EM?
1. Let People Pay for parking.
a) they pay for food.
b) they pay for drinks.
c) they tip
d) they have a good time
e) they feel safe, or they wouldn't come
f) they feel they have
What about the whole concept of the cities investment in the parking meter
equipment?
It's pretty obvious that people don't really have a hard time paying to park,
since they are
still doing it, even though it's currently free.
I sincerely doubt that the rather tiny cost of parking is going to
Sounds like Gary Mottolla agrees with me on the issue.
Give people every reason to come to AP.
We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to
come with parking meters.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Developer gets stay on
Yeah, but what about the money the city invested in meters?
Seems to me that except when there is a big musical event at the boardwalk on
the off
season, the boardwalk is still a ghost town.
High end retail on the boardwalk is going to tank...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like Gary Mottolla agrees with me on the issue.
Give people every reason to come to AP.
We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to
come with parking meters.
And where do you draw
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where do you draw that insane conclusion?
AP was packed Sat night. There was a reason. Shit was happening.
Sure Oak - have a concert and draw a crowd.
What about the other 300+ days a year?
People will factor into
I'm 100% certain that the masses that came to the city on Saturday for a
concert would've
happily paid to park. It comes with the territory of going to see a show.
If you are going to MSG for a concert, you'll pay for parking. Same thing in
Newark and so
on.
The city lost an opportunity this
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Sure Oak - have a concert and draw a crowd.
What about the other 300+ days a year?
The typical season was 110 days.
And with that, you hoped and prayed for nice weather. YOu were on
your own with no backing.
And once again, the success of a musical weekend in AP proves, once again, that
music is
pretty much the number one draw that's going to bring people to the boardwalk.
And this is where the redevelopment has made a wrong turn. High end retail,
year round,
on the boardwalk is totally wrong.
If
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm 100% certain that the masses that came to the city on Saturday
for a concert would've
happily paid to park. It comes with the territory of going to see a
show.
well said.
Train (20 plus) to MSG or parking at
What about the concept of the City stepping up to the plate and having the balls
to show MM who the boss is?
Obviously, MM thinks they are. I had pretty good evidence of that when I saw
Mottolla
playing cop on the boardwalk by telling a women, who was walking her dog on the
deserted boardwalk
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a major developer and retailer asking for and getting a break
on .50 hour parking fees.
How do you construct retail with NO parking. every major developer
HAS to provide parking as per any town regulation. So
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
Here's a major developer and retailer asking for and getting a
break
on .50 hour parking fees.
I can get dragged up to C21 Department stores in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lay 'em on the table and call it.
I suspect (hope) the city will stand pat. I counseled so last year
with regard to the Wesley Grove purchase and the city got its money.
It takes two to tango. We have a right to have metered
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Sounds like Gary Mottolla agrees with me on the issue.
Give people every reason to come to AP.
We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to
come with parking meters.
What I said 5 years
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Sounds like Gary Mottolla agrees with me on the issue.
Give people every reason to come to AP.
We aren't popular enough yet to start
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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You still haven't grasped the Tao of the Clamdigger.
Bad enough I get charged to walk near the water. Now I have to be
charged to park near it too?
Who's looking for clamdiggers - no free lunch
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Bad enough I get charged to walk near the water. Now I have to be
charged to park near it too?
No. Park and walk or sit out west there and play in one of those mud-
holes or come and enjoy the ocean.
There's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
You still haven't grasped the Tao of the Clamdigger.
Bad enough I get charged to walk near the water. Now I have to be
charged to park near
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bad enough I get charged to walk near the water. Now I have to
be
charged to park near it too?
Come up with another immediate revenue generating mechanism in AP
that are really, in the Internet world,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
Bad enough I get charged to walk near the water. Now I have
to
be
charged to park near it too?
Come up with another immediate revenue
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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As soon as they started charging to park in AP we went elsewhere.
Came back when they stopped.
Same will be true next year.
And for everyone that decided not to come because of the meters, three
others took their
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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If people don't come because of them then what good are they?
Cheapskates ;) like you stayed away. We don't need cheapskates. We
need people to spend money.
You missed the crowds this summer Tom. All they wanted was
I probably have enough change in my change jar to pay for an entire summer of
beach
parking.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
If people don't come because of them then what
If I'm replaced by 3 tourists then good for Asbury Park Boarkwalk
vendors!
I'm just willing to bet there would be 4 of us with free parking.
Not one tourist is coming BECAUSE there is metered parking.
Some (like me) will stay away because of it.
Remember, when I don't pay 50 cents to park, I
You can justify it any way you want.
Staying away from AP because of a tiny parking charge as a principle makes no
sense at
all.
The only justification is that;
A) you are cheap
B) you are broke and those 50 cents is all that stands between you and
starvation
C) You're cheap, broke and we don't
Well Jack as I made clear in my last post, I don't fault the City
for the meters if they make more money from them than from those who
will stay away because of them.
Financailly I have no choice but to say it's a good move on their
part, if that's the case.
Not sure then why that would raise
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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If that's the case, then no one can complain. Me in particular.
It's a smart move on the City's part if they make more money from it.
Query though why the developer opposses it?
And in the same vein, why not make
How does the rest of the tourism world survive without beach fees?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
If that's the case, then no one can complain. Me in
particular.
It's a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Well Jack as I made clear in my last post, I don't fault the City
for the meters if they make more money from them than from those who
will stay away because of them.
1st 6 weeks of meters = $56K City revenue
Free
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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How does the rest of the tourism world survive without beach fees?
You're from Jersey, I am not. We have free beaches in NY.
Yahoo! Groups Links
* To visit your group on the
Pick one Saturday next year (one of the same Saturdays we had
metered parking this year).
Advertise for a couple of weeks around the state that that Saturday
will be free parking.
Then compare the revenue for daily beach badges.
If you have about $1,000 more, the meteres aren't worth it.
Not
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
How does the rest of the tourism world survive without beach fees?
You're from Jersey, I am not. We have free beaches in NY.
Then we
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Then we need to send our City Mgr. to a NY seminar on how they do that
up there.
They charge a lot for parking. In NY we know that parking is NEVER free.
There is ALWAYS a cost for parking.
The city has costs to
In North Carolina, they do it by not having Lifeguards or boardwalks
in most places.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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How does the rest of the tourism world survive without beach fees?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've paid parking tickets in plenty of states and in AP.
Hollywood Florida in their redevelopment area, Miami, NYC more then
once...wildwood, cape may...
downtown tix are $54 cause I couldn't figure out to read a sign
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and tommy you can't expect henry V to plow the snow (it does happen
along the ocean) or springsteen or the state to step in forever or is
that the overall plan?
Sooner or later you have to have a plan to survive on your own. I keep
telling my daughter that.
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