[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-08 Thread rawdogalways
your ALL a bunch of idiots for thinking anybody is paying any attention to you on this message board...it takes more than 8 people to make a difference. most of you dont even live in asbury...U R all a friggin JOKE!!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-08 Thread charlie
your ALL a bunch of idiots for thinking anybody is paying any attention to you on this message board...it takes more than 8 people to make a difference. most of you dont even live in asbury...U R all a friggin JOKE!!! The yahoo group was created for people to talk about things going on in

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-08 Thread Hinge
Chuck...trust meignore him. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your ALL a bunch of idiots for thinking anybody is paying any attention to you on this message board...it takes more than 8 people to make a difference. most of you dont even live in

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread rawdogalways
i dont mind listening to people with intelligence about asbury park, you gary are just not one of them... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 5, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Hinge wrote: Gary, I give you permission to ignore the jackass who feels it's

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread Hinge
I don't know who this person is, but I can't understand why he/she feels the need to bash Gary here. Whoever you are, we don't care about your opinion, so make your attacks private, ok? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont mind listening to people

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread rawdogalways
oh ok ole high and mighty hinge, u r the KING complainer. y dont ya just move back to keansburg. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know who this person is, but I can't understand why he/she feels the need to bash Gary here. Whoever you are, we don't

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread Hinge
Sorry Dan, but i'm gonna stick my finger in the monkee cage for a moment. Forgive me. First off, you are obviously somebody who hasn't been here for awhile. You used to come here, but now you are back with a new name. Welcome. Secondly, I don't come from Keansburg. And i'm not the king complainer

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread rawdogalways
listen hingy, i cant help it if gary's product is horrible and he is even a worse writer, and dude u r the king complaineru r on here everyday complaining about something, don't you get tired of being so negative? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Dan,

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-07 Thread Hinge
Rant away rolemover I've said what I wanted to say and now i'm going to ignore you, just as everybody else will. I must say though, I like your new screen name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: listen hingy, i cant help it if gary's product is horrible

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-06 Thread Gary Wien
On Jun 5, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Hinge wrote: Gary, I give you permission to ignore the jackass who feels it's important to put you down here. I have a feeling it's somebody we know using a different name... The person felt so strong about this that he sent me a personal email where he says

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The person felt so strong about this that he sent me a personal email He is obviously off his meds again (I assume he will be emailing me too now). What I don't understand is what is the fascination that Asbury Park

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-06 Thread Gary Wien
Let's just say that it's under a new email address... as to be expected. On Jun 6, 2007, at 3:16 PM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The person felt so strong about this that he sent me a personal email He is obviously off his meds

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread rawdogalways
You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park...Did you ever attend The Warped Tour? How about the WNEW shows? Ever see Bruce in the 80's at the Pony? You have proven over and over again that you are not qualified to publish a magazine. The writing is HORRIBLE!!! The layout has gotten

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park.. maybe im wrong, wont be the first time but i got this funny feeling HES BACK On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, rawdogalways wrote: The Warped Tour in

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread Gary Wien
Charlie, his post stated: I guess it comes from inflated distribution numbers... that was an intended dig at the magazine although a ridiculous one as we've never inflated our numbers. We have no reason to. On Jun 5, 2007, at 1:31 AM, charlie wrote: Why is it that when people here

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread Hinge
Gary, I give you permission to ignore the jackass who feels it's important to put you down here. I have a feeling it's somebody we know using a different name... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park...Did you

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways rawdogalways@ wrote: You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park.. maybe im wrong, wont be the first time but i got this funny feeling HES BACK

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread charlie
all right rawdog, i dont think we need to bad mouth anyone here. I'm not part of that just for the record. I just poinetd out i didn't see any mention of the magazine being bad. I guess maybe i missed a post. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread charlie
all right rawdog, i dont think we need to bad mouth anyone here. I'm not part of that just for the record. I just poinetd out i didn't see any mention of the magazine being bad. I guess maybe i missed a post. - Choose the right car based on your needs.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread charlie
all right rawdog, i dont think we need to bad mouth anyone here. I'm not part of that just for the record. I just poinetd out i didn't see any mention of the magazine being bad. I guess maybe i missed a post. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo!

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread charlie
Charlie, his post stated: I guess it comes from inflated distribution numbers... that was an intended dig at the magazine although a ridiculous one as we've never inflated our numbers. We have no reason to. Oh all right. I get it now.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-05 Thread charlie
all right rawdog, i dont think we need to bad mouth anyone here. I'm not part of that just for the record. I just poinetd out i didn't see any mention of the magazine being bad. I guess maybe i missed a post. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Places like The Wonder Bar and the Stone pony attrack a lot of cars on certain nights. These buildings are sitting in the mist of a changing enviorment. Reminds me of a story I just heard from a cousin who is a Dept of

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread oakdorf
law-abiding and grandfathered commercial uses, there is going to be conflict. Answer? Don;t buy there. Like when I was around 14, someone bought a house next to Colt Field, the amazing little league field in OT. They started to complain about the lights at night an noise. The field was built

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Saturday night looked like another winner. I drove around 10 minutes before I parked along the lake. And old Man raffs hasn't opened yet, nor has a sole moved into the Steinbach building Forget first saturday

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: First Saturday night looked like another winner. I drove around 10 minutes before I parked along the lake. And old Man raffs hasn't opened yet, nor has a sole

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread oakdorf
I have big driveway and yard. I think I'll start a valet parking biz to pay for my range rover. I took (actually she drove) to Wildwood for her first drive south. We parked in the private lot by their CH. I like the old guy there. Sits in his beach chair. It was pretty quite there so it $5

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread Hinge
I noticed that people were using the lot next to Asbury Lanes as a parking lot yesterday. I'm surprised nobody capitalized on that and set up a chair and sign to make some $. Hmmm... sounds like a good idea. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that people were using the lot next to Asbury Lanes as a parking lot yesterday. I'm surprised nobody capitalized on that and set up a chair and sign to make some $. Hmmm... sounds like a good idea. I'll be your

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread rawdogalways
The Warped Tour in Asbury Park was sold out at 13,000. Where do you get your numbers Gary? I guess it comes from inflated distribution numbers... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town. Was this festival near

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread Gary Wien
Inflated distribution numbers? LOL. We print and distribute 20,000 copies. We're moving to 25,000 this summer. And roughly 160,000 readers online... Feel free to call our printer if you're interested. Maybe I was wrong about the Warped Tour numbers, I don't know. I can't find the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-04 Thread charlie
Why is it that when people here respond, they generally have to attack people personally? Where in my original post did my magazine come into play? Or are you just jealous at the amount of copies we distribute? Maybe i missed a post before, but from the last one he sent, regarding

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread Hinge
Werner, The buffer zone on Ocean Ave. is terrible. Yesterday, I was riding my bike on it, and a car tailgated me and kept honking his horn in an attempt to get me out of the way. Ridiculous. Also, the parking in the city is ridiculous today. I just went out for a snack with my girlfriend, and

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, The buffer zone on Ocean Ave. is terrible. Yesterday, I was riding my bike on it, and a car tailgated me and kept honking his horn in an attempt to get me out of the way. Ridiculous. Also, the parking in the city

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread charlie
There appears to be no movement toward correcting such obvious mistakes. If there is, it being done out of public view which is even more problematic. Werner I agree. Ocean ave. appears to be a parking/driving mess! The buffer zone is too wide, giving the illusion that it is a

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There appears to be no movement toward correcting such obvious mistakes. If there is, it being done out of public view which is even more problematic. Werner I agree. Ocean ave. appears to be a

[AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. Ocean ave. appears to be a parking/driving mess! The buffer zone is too wide, giving the illusion that it is a driving lane or bike path. Perhaps the plan is not to have such events. Could

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread charlie
The Plan was not created with attracting visitors in mind. Tourism, events, etc were notconsidered or accounted for. The Beach and commercial components are to be for the use of the condo dwellers. I agree, i think a lot of the boardwalk stores, food, and other attractions are aimed

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Perfect Example of Bad Planning

2007-06-03 Thread Gary Wien
The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town. Was this festival near those levels? I agree with Werner. This plan was absolutely 100% against the idea of tourism. It's amazing that a town with a beach, a boardwalk, and history would abandon such features that other towns could only