Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter - Volume Problems With Amps

2007-04-08 Thread opaqueice
Sword1;193342 Wrote: Well, the problem is resolved. Somehow, a pair of 2 meter interconnects that had been loaned to me were the cause of it (I had none of sufficient length at the moment). When I swapped them out, after moving the unit closer to the amplifiers, and used my existing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread jhm731
crooner;193380 Wrote: Hi guys, Been dreaming this in my head for the last few days. I'm going to build a Super Squeezebox rivaling the Transporter in overall performance with looks to match. For his purpose, I've just purchased a SB2 via eBay that will be modded and then transplanted

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread tyler_durden
You need to use a box made by hand from exotic woods and finished with violin lacquer to get the best sound. Aluminum is cheap, that's why it is used in all the mass market junk. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
LOL! The Condor supply was $25 in NOS condition from eBay so, what do I have to lose? hehehe The front panel would closely replicate the look of my current Audio Research gear. There's also a guy making custom enclosures for the Tripath Class D amps. The box is very attractive with shiny mirror

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter - Volume Problems With Amps

2007-04-08 Thread Phil Leigh
They might have attenuators fitted? -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34148

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter - Volume Problems With Amps

2007-04-08 Thread chinablues
I had this problem with the interconnects too, and then I realized I'd plugged them in the wrong way around. Electrons were not going in the direction of the arrows on the cables. Dumb or what ;) Dan -- chinablues

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx
crooner;193392 Wrote: LOL, very true. I might go cheap and make an enclosure out of hard maple, using parts from a Boos butcher block or something. I know it works wonders for my VPI turntable!! The maple blocks work wonders under my 2 TPs. I use one for each channel for better separation.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody Hacked SB3 External Clock?

2007-04-08 Thread tingtong5
Mark Lanctot;193293 Wrote: The WAF must be through the roof on that mod! :-) Did something about that today. The new box also contains the 5V regulated power supply. +---+ |Filename: DSC02566.jpg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter - Volume Problems With Amps

2007-04-08 Thread DLORDE
chinablues;193414 Wrote: I had this problem with the interconnects too, and then I realized I'd plugged them in the wrong way around. Electrons were not going in the direction of the arrows on the cables. Dumb or what ;)Dan ROFL! On my system the electrons get confused by the arrows and go

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody Hacked SB3 External Clock?

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
Ah, the case-to-prevent-fall-apart. Very nice! I wasn't criticizing, BTW. I have no WAF to contend with. Right now I have computer parts strewn all over the hallway... -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter - Volume Problems With Amps

2007-04-08 Thread opaqueice
chinablues;193414 Wrote: I had this problem with the interconnects too, and then I realized I'd plugged them in the wrong way around. Electrons were not going in the direction of the arrows on the cables. Dumb or what ;) Dan I always loved the idea of those arrows, especially

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
Seriously though, the Super SB will just be a natural progression of the SB2/3 into a more conventional form factor. Perhaps filling a void between the SB and Transporter. I could have simply transferred the guts to a larger case and be done with it. But I figure it would be far more interesting

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx
crooner;193458 Wrote: Seriously though, the Super SB will just be a natural progression of the SB2/3 into a more conventional form factor. Perhaps filling a void between the SB and Transporter. I could have simply transferred the guts to a larger case and be done with it. But I figure it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
crooner wrote: This also needs to be cost effective, because otherwise I would simply shell out the 2 grand and buy the Transporter... No, it does not need to be cost effective, this is the audiophiles list It is interesting to look at the progression of other hobbies. In the late 50s, if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread chinablues
It's late here, but last time I did the equation, AC at 50, or even 60Hz had a wavelength of several kilometers. ie you needed an ariel of that kind of distance to pick up anything via electromagnetic coupling. I have transformers, and a pile of power wires behind my system. I have never heard

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
You are right. Most mods on a vintage Mustang would cost far more than the modest original MSRP of the car. In the case of the SB, it makes more sense to tweak this platform instead of the TP. Pat Farrell;193463 Wrote: crooner wrote: This also needs to be cost effective, because otherwise

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
I can very easily pick up a 60 Hz hum in my subwoofer interconnect if it should parallel a power line for more than a few inches. In fact the hum is strong enough to keep the subwoofer amp on (it's an auto-on, auto-off amp as sub amps usually are.) Perhaps I'm using a poor interconnect, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread jhm731
http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2668stc=1d=1176051254 HMSB.jpg Not very pretty, but here's a SB2 stuck into a TacT Audio case with a L-Clock. +---+ |Filename: HMSB.jpg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread tyler_durden
While adding a linear supply to the box might do some good, depending on who you ask, there is a good reason not to make it too big. A 12A supply used where only a 1A or so supply is required will be capable of destrying a PCB if something goes wrong in the SB. Industrial linear power supplies

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
jhm731;193472 Wrote: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2668stc=1d=1176051254 HMSB.jpg Not very pretty, but here's a SB2 stuck into a TacT Audio case with a L-Clock. Looks awesome man! I wonder where can I get an empty TacT case... -- crooner SB3 with Custom

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
The 12A supply was very cheap to let it pass. However, it doesn't seem to be too big. Just slightly larger than the 3A supply. Same open frame construction. Specs do not call for mandatory forced air cooling, so no fan is required. The most obvious differences being the slightly larger PS,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
You know what, I'm revising my budget and will go for performance over appearance. I'm choosing a 1RU or 2RU rack mount enclosure from Par Metal. Cost effective and should look nice stacked on the DAC60... -- crooner SB3 with Custom Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC VPI Scout

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread CardinalFang
crooner;193497 Wrote: I'm choosing a 1RU or 2RU rack mount enclosure from Par Metal. Cost effective and should look nice stacked on the DAC60... If you don't mind ordering from Italy, these guys do really nice enclosures - I rehoused my SB2 in one of their units with a 10mm front and included

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
That is very nice looking CardinalFang! Did they cut the faceplate or did you have it machined for the display? CardinalFang;193508 Wrote: If you don't mind ordering from Italy, these guys do really nice enclosures - I rehoused my SB2 in one of their units with a 10mm front and included a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
Here are some shots of the Par-Metal enclosures: They look a little industrial, but appear well finished. I particularly like the handles on the larger size 2RU. Perfect match to my Audio Research stuff. I was wondering if the 1RU would work. It's only 1.75 high...

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread adamslim
OK, my CD player sounds better than my Squeezebox/Shek Dac setup, but I listen to the SB more. The convenience and ease of browsing do it for me, and the wife loves it too. Ergo (slight logical jump) I need a better wireless streaming audio solution. Main options and issues: Transporter.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote: Ergo (slight logical jump) I need a better wireless streaming audio solution. Did you try the obvious and use it wired? Just for problem isolation, even if the WAF won't allow it. Transporter. Problem is that I can't listen to it before I buy, and there are none in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread adamslim
CardinalFang;193508 Wrote: http://www.hifi2000.it/ They don't even do wooden knobs... ;) Seriously, this looks like a fun project. However, how do you define the value benefit? I think you could spend £500 without necessarily addressing some of the key points sonically (without lots of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
Well... At first I just wanted an enclosure to match the rest of my stuff. Obviously the SB3 would not be an option because of the form factor. The SB2 lends itself quite easily to custom applications, so I got myself one. Now, even though my current setup is musically satisfying, I figured

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx
Adam, If flights are cheaper, come to Dallas. Or , better still, make a tour of the US TP owners so you can make a truly informed decision. Since you will have a pint at Pat's we'll have Mcallans 18 year here. Have a California cab while in Cali and I GAURANTEE you will like the TP a lot.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread chinablues
My sub interconnect is coiled around /piled on top of a 1500W transformer (220/110V). The sub (Velodyne) can output a frequency note from 20 to 160Hz which is picked up by a mike and displayed on the TV through the AVR. This to allow the sub to be blended in with the room/main speakers. There

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
chinablues;193535 Wrote: My sub interconnect is coiled around /piled on top of a 1500W transformer (220/110V). The sub (Velodyne) can output a frequency note from 20 to 160Hz which is picked up by a mike and displayed on the TV through the AVR. This to allow the sub to be blended in with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread regalma1
subwoofers are notorious for grounding problems. Have you gone through the isolation steps. Putting in a cheater to eliminate the ground pin on the AC, connecting to different sockets and so on. -- regalma1 regalma1's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
regalma1;193548 Wrote: subwoofers are notorious for grounding problems. Have you gone through the isolation steps. Putting in a cheater to eliminate the ground pin on the AC, connecting to different sockets and so on. Not really, because fixing it is so easy - I just futz around with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best practices

2007-04-08 Thread Skunk
regalma1;193548 Wrote: Have you gone through the isolation steps. Putting in a cheater to eliminate the ground pin on the AC, connecting to different sockets and so on. A cheater plug may be a diagnostic tool, but shouldn't be left that way as the ground pin is there for a reason. Things

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread adamslim
Cheers guys The main issue seems to be the 30-day trial. AFAIK there is no such trial period in the UK. Irritating, deeply. Your US offers are generous, but I can do Zurich in a day return, and the TP is cheaper there that in the US (comments on international pricing welcome :) ) plus the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-08 Thread Ben Diss
In another thread, we discussed the merits of biwiring and I offered to do some experiments to determine the audibility of various configurations. I currently have DIY cables made with Carol 12/4 cable. These are terminated on the amp side with locking banana plugs soldered to the cable. On

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread GaryB
crooner;193530 Wrote: As for the value thing, I don't plan to spend tons of cash on this. The Par-metal enclosure is less than $80. Another company that makes cases that I like quite a bit is Lansing. You can find their website here: http://www.lansing-enclosures.com/ I've built a preamp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote: bit FLACs - wireless is not the problem, the SB3 quality is. Is the TP advantage over SB3/DAC-1 sonic or aesthetic, primarily? The sounds are both good, I don't have the ability to describe the difference. The idea reminds me of The Absolute Sound folks talking about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-08 Thread Ben Diss
To conduct the tests I first made a set of jumpers using 12 gauge speaker wire soldered to gold plated banana plugs. Test 1: For the first tests, I left the speaker cables attached and only used the jumpers. For test one, I jumpered the negative side only. Listening to my favorite test

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread crooner
Great looking DIY equipment Gary! I checked the Lansing site but it was a bit difficult to visualize the different options. But they sure look excellent. I wonder if they are able to machine the display window on the faceplate. If not, I'll have to find a local CNC shop to do this for me. The

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
adamslim;193554 Wrote: they have loads of drugs there... I ain't touching that one with a 10-foot pole... Also the thought of some poor Transporter being banged around on a checked luggage carousel makes me cringe! :-) -- Mark Lanctot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-08 Thread tyler_durden
That's why they call it buy-wiring. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34318

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-08 Thread haunyack
tyler_durden;193565 Wrote: That's why they call it buy-wiring. TD Hee hee ... buy why?-ring . -- haunyack Transporter - Bryston BP20 - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. haunyack's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-08 Thread empty99
Ben Diss;193556 Wrote: I had my wife alternate having the jumper in and listening without it. I could hear no difference. -Ben But my wife refused to help and immediately went shopping :^)! -- empty99 empty99's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread empty99
Just look at those knobs, they really put the words cranking up the volume to mean it! -- empty99 empty99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3488 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote: Your US offers are generous, but I can do Zurich in a day return, and the TP is cheaper there that in the US Just checked with British Air, they want £469 each way. (on short notice) You could do it in 'a day' but you'd spend a lot of time in the air. You can leave Heathrow

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx
British Airways has direct from Heathrow to Dallas sometimes as low as 200 pounds round trip, but you have to keep a lookout for prices like that. I thought there were EU consumer laws that allow you to return a product within a certain time period for a full refund. Wouldn't that apply to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Super Squeezebox Project

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx
Gary, Do you ever sell your DIY projects? Tom -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34291