Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Mnyb
Muele;617598 Wrote: Resist the temptation, don't feed the troll. Don't now if the trollscore goes this low, but I would rate it 0/10 Forgot that it is a 0/10 -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Transporter compatible with CAT6 cabling?

2011-03-14 Thread bits
Cat5e is capable of gigabit. I would say cat5 on 50m or less would be very capable of gigabit depending on your hardware. It is now unlikely cat6 will ever have consumer applications that cat5e wasn't capable of. Cat6a and cat7 is for 10gig which is still many years away from consumer level when

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread soundcheck
@bluegaspode. Thx for the hints. Hmmh. logconf.lua was not the place where the actual UI settings are kept. I figured that there is another variable volume. This can go up to 100. It reflects the actual UI settings. That one also seems to get mapped to the array index somewhere. Since the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks is at it again

2011-03-14 Thread mascotguy
magiccarpetride;617286 Wrote: HDTracks is a sham. I agree with you ... 'dvdrippingsoftware' (http://dvdrippingsoftwares.com/) -- mascotguy mascotguy's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;617272 Wrote: You don't need to see Inguz under Extras on the Touch for Inguz to work (just as well as I can't get it to appear there!). I have a problem. I can't see to find item [2] of my earlier and am fairly sure inguz is not working. I have tried setting the LR balance to -9dB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Robin Bowes
On 13/03/11 23:20, konut wrote: My perceived preference is probably not scientifically measurable. Can someone invent a pleasure meter? If your preference is not scientifically measurable then it almost certainly exists only in your mind. R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;617864 Wrote: I have a problem. I can't see to find item [2] of my earlier and am fairly sure inguz is not working. I have tried setting the LR balance to -9dB but sounds which are supposed to be in the centre are still in the centre. This makes me feel that nothing is happening. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;617867 Wrote: On 13/03/11 23:20, konut wrote: My perceived preference is probably not scientifically measurable. Can someone invent a pleasure meter? If your preference is not scientifically measurable then it almost certainly exists only in your mind. R. -- Feed that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;617875 Wrote: Adam - just do a search for log.txt - you should find it. No, server.log won't help. One way to check is to open Task Manager while a track is playing... you should see a process called inguzdsp.exe running. If you can't see that task, inguz is NOT properly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Robin Bowes
On 14/03/11 12:42, Phil Leigh wrote: Robin Bowes;617867 Wrote: On 13/03/11 23:20, konut wrote: My perceived preference is probably not scientifically measurable. Can someone invent a pleasure meter? If your preference is not scientifically measurable then it almost certainly exists only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Absinth
Hi I'm not quite sure that this is the correct forum for this thread, so my apologies if not. I run SqueezeboxServer from an Asus Eee, but consider upgrading to something more powerful as I would like to experiment with Inguz, but I still want something compact, silent and power efficient. I am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Absinth;617930 Wrote: Hi I'm not quite sure that this is the correct forum for this thread, so my apologies if not. I run SqueezeboxServer from an Asus Eee, but consider upgrading to something more powerful as I would like to experiment with Inguz, but I still want something compact,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread konut
Robin Bowes;617867 Wrote: On 13/03/11 23:20, konut wrote: My perceived preference is probably not scientifically measurable. Can someone invent a pleasure meter? If your preference is not scientifically measurable then it almost certainly exists only in your mind. R. -- Feed that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread iPhone
Speaker cables DO make a difference! The question really is, at what point does it make no sense to spend more money on exotic material and outrageous prices? IE at what point is it good enough to get the job done and above that one can't hear anymore difference or improvement. Speaker cables

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Absinth
Thanks for your reply. As I understand it, the weak point of SPDIF is output from the source. Certainly a lot seems to be attempted in order to minimize jitter on the Touch. So if the V-link performs as advertised, buying one would certainly be cheaper than adding another modifyed Touch. Wether

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Pat Farrell
On 03/14/2011 12:34 PM, Absinth wrote: As I understand it, the weak point of SPDIF is output from the source. No. There are many weak points with SPDIF. It is fundamentally flawed. It was designed as a cheap consumer mass market connection. It works fairly well at that. It was never designed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Eriko
If ones system is to bright, this can be tamed just by choosing the proper ICs and speaker cable to even out the effect. [/QUOTE Wrote: If one wants to tame, brighten, get fuller sound, get rid of bass bumps or increase etc etc...you simply use the Inguz Eq plug-in and a RS sound level

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
A cable can't create information, so DSP isn't the answer. The best you can hope for is that it doesn't lose any. Some amplifiers are horrifically sensitive to speaker cables - Naim amps, for example, go unstable (which is certainly measurable!) unless they have a couple of metres or so of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Absinth;617946 Wrote: Thanks for your reply. As I understand it, the weak point of SPDIF is output from the source. Certainly a lot seems to be attempted in order to minimize jitter on the Touch. So if the V-link performs as advertised, buying one would certainly be cheaper than adding

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks is at it again

2011-03-14 Thread pantapei
Rolling Stones Hd mono=Cd Cd http://www.cieri.net/temp/RollingStones/CD-logfr.jpg Hd http://www.cieri.net/temp/RollingStones/HD-logfr.jpg http://www.videohifi.com/FORUM/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=165291whichpage=2ARCHIVE=#top -- pantapei

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Fukinagashi
The only matter that counts IMO is resistance, capacitance and inductance... -- Fukinagashi Fukinagashi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42922 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Eriko
JezA;617955 Wrote: A cable can't create information, so using DSP instead isn't the answer. I don´t understand that statement and don´t know what one has to do with the other. IMO, no cable that fulfills general requirements for its purpose, can be the weakest link. I did state, given that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Absinth
Well, I'm no electronic engineer, so the finer technical points are lost on me, but as I understand it the asyncronus transfer on the V-link isolates the clock signal from the PC, which is the normal problem with USB. This means that it's input signal is no better or worse than that of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread cliveb
magiccarpetride;617078 Wrote: Open that photo in Safari. Then open the same photo in Firefox. Now position both browsers side-by-side (you may have to do some resizing of each browser window), and compare the two renditions of the same photo. Yes, it's the same zeros and ones, but these two

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread TiredLegs
Back in the 1970s, my stereo system's sound seemed to gradually get garbled. I assumed it was the electronics going bad, but I eventually discovered the culprit was massive corrosion on the copper strands of the zip cord I was using as speaker wires. (Now all the copper speaker wire is OFC, so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread magiccarpetride
iPhone;617945 Wrote: Speaker cables DO make a difference! The question really is, at what point does it make no sense to spend more money on exotic material and outrageous prices? IE at what point is it good enough to get the job done and above that one can't hear anymore difference or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread magiccarpetride
cliveb;617965 Wrote: I just tried this on Windows - Firefox and Safari displaying the same photo side-by-side. I was expecting to see no difference. But b*gger me they did look different - the Safari rendition seemed to be slightly darker. I was so surprised by this that I then tried with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
Eriko;617959 Wrote: I don´t understand that statement and don´t know what one has to do with the other. IMO, no cable that fulfills general requirements for its purpose, can be the weakest link. I did state, given that one has a transparent system (meaning having all the information there),

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Curt962
I've never known an audiophile that was happy with the achieved result. If they were, they'd be called Musicphiles. What makes one feel warm and fuzzy today...is a source of angst in the months to come. As soon as ONE reviewer hears something wrong, the quest begins anew. -- Curt962

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread cliveb
magiccarpetride;617974 Wrote: Let me solve the mystery for you: the reason why a photo looks better on Safari then on Firefox is due to the fact that I'm using a pirated version of Firefox on my Mac. That's the version I've downloaded from an illegal Chinese (or was it Russian, I forgot)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread garym
cliveb;617980 Wrote: Pardon me for being completely bemused, but why would anyone choose to run a dubious pirate version of a program when the official release is free? +1 I'm anxiously awaiting the answer to this myselfits gotta be good! -- garym

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Griffin
Absinth;617963 Wrote: The jitter in the V-links output signal might be better than that of the Touch, since it doesn't have to deal with ethernet packages, touch screens, wifi, internal servers and such. If the V-link is implemented right (and Musical Fidelity seems to know their stuff)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Eriko
JezA;617975 Wrote: If a cable loses information DSP can't create it. You are thinking about hi-fi in terms of tonal balance. There's a lot more to it than that. Could you DSP me into Eric Clapton? Doesn´t look like you´re reading carefully enough what I´m saying or responding too. My first

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
garym;617983 Wrote: +1 I'm anxiously awaiting the answer to this myselfits gotta be good! It's a typo ... Photoshop, Not Firefox :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do things sound the way they do?

2011-03-14 Thread magiccarpetride
cliveb;617980 Wrote: Pardon me for being completely bemused, but why would anyone choose to run a dubious pirate version of a program when the official release is free? Free as in free speech? -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
Absinth;617963 Wrote: Well, I'm no electronic engineer, so the finer technical points are lost on me, but as I understand it the asyncronus transfer on the V-link isolates the clock signal from the PC, which is the normal problem with USB. This means that it's input signal is no better

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread darrenyeats
As has been said SPDIF is brain dead. Having said that you can buy a DAC that deals with input jitter. I'm happy with my Benchmark DAC1 HDR. It includes analogue volume, 5 digital inputs, 1 analogue input, balanced output and a good headphone amp. Expensive but I don't need all this jitter gear

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
Curt962;617979 Wrote: I've never known an audiophile that was happy with the achieved result. If they were, they'd be called Musicphiles. What makes one feel warm and fuzzy today...is a source of angst in the months to come. As soon as ONE reviewer hears something wrong, the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread alZmtbr
What I would like to try is to use the mini as a server, yes, but have the SB connected with a cross-over cable. And then be able to communicate via wireless to control the server. Is this feasible? Thanks, Allan -- alZmtbr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Daverz
JezA;617955 Wrote: If you can't hear differences between cables it may mean that your equipment isn't sensitive to them or it may mean that you aren't. So either way don't worry. But if your mind is closed to the possibility that some cables may have an audible effect on some systems, then

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;617875 Wrote: Adam - just do a search for log.txt - you should find it. No, server.log won't help. One way to check is to open Task Manager while a track is playing... you should see a process called inguzdsp.exe running. If you can't see that task, inguz is NOT properly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
Daverz;618002 Wrote: Except that differences between cables is the dogma, with no scientific support for it. As long as we specify a minimum gauge for a given length of wire (and 16AWG is probably adequate in most cases). Why do you say 16AWG is adequate? What scientific support do you have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
Eriko;617988 Wrote: Doesn´t look like you´re reading carefully enough what I´m saying or responding too. My first reply, was to the statement using a cable to tame a bright system., which has indeed to do with tonal balance. I also said, given a cable that meets all general requirements

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread bburroughs
magiccarpetride;617712 Wrote: Imagine if someone were to offer you to choose, for free, between a pair of Cardas or Nordost speaker cables. Would you consider it a toss-off, thinking that basically it's the same difference, or would you first spend some time auditioning these two cables, in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Daverz
JezA;618022 Wrote: Why do you say 16AWG is adequate? What scientific support do you have for that claim? It's based on electrical properties of copper. You can find various tables like this one: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable which is based on the resistance of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread soundcheck
I just stepped over something which seems a little odd to me: The range of the Touch volume slider is 0-100!!! The variable volume gets values from 0 to 100 assigned. At least that's what I verified in /etc/squeezeplay/userpath/settings/Playback.lua. It's not what bluegaspode mentioned

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread JezA
Why 5%? Why not 3.6%? Or 6.2%? Where are the double-blind peer reviewed published studies to support such a claim? Nowhere. It's just another opinion dressed up with a few graphs, some woefully incomplete electronics and plenty of gratuitous insults. -- JezA

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Absinth
darrenyeats;617997 Wrote: As has been said SPDIF is brain dead. Having said that you can buy a DAC that deals with input jitter. I'm happy with my Benchmark DAC1 HDR. Darren Yes, I have tried DacMagic and Benchmark, that rejects jitter quite well, but my Audio Note DAC plays music, not sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread bluegaspode
soundcheck;618051 Wrote: I just stepped over something which seems a little odd to me why so complicated? what values is the log outputting for you? 0-65536 = fine! Even if the range of the slider is 0-100 - it is send directly to the server, which converts it to the range of 0-65536 and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread darrenyeats
Absinth, Well, each to their own. But there are more than a couple of DACs out there that will reject jitter. Regards, Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-14 Thread Absinth
alZmtbr;618000 Wrote: What I would like to try is to use the mini as a server, yes, but have the SB connected with a cross-over cable. And then be able to communicate via wireless to control the server. Is this feasible? Thanks, Allan Sure, but I seriously doubt that you will gain much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Daverz
JezA;618052 Wrote: Why 5%? Why not 3.6%? Or 6.2%? Where are the double-blind peer reviewed published studies to support such a claim? Nowhere. It's just another opinion dressed up with a few graphs, some woefully incomplete electronics and plenty of gratuitous insults. These numbers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread soundcheck
You need to keep indexes and values of that array in sync resp. consistant between all controls. That at least would be my understanding. VC control on the Touch is controlled via the index and not via the value AFAIK. That index gets mapped to the curve. There is no index 100 in that array

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread Eriko
adamdea;618017 Wrote: 1. I really can't find log.txt . There is no file of that name on my PC 2. I am playing a track but there is no process called Inguz.dsp in Task Manager Is there any way of working out what is going wrong? Looks like Inguz isn´t properly installed to me. If you paste

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Eriko;618068 Wrote: Looks like Inguz isn´t properly installed to me. If you paste the following in Windows search by clicking on start for XP or the logo at the bottom left for Vista): For XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\InguzEQ Vista: C:\ProgramData\InguzEQ\

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread bluegaspode
soundcheck;618065 Wrote: You need to keep indexes and values of that array in sync resp. consistant between all controls. That at least would be my understanding. Why? These are totally independent scales. a) scale of the Touch volume slider: 0-100 = is sent to the server b) internal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;618017 Wrote: 1. I really can't find log.txt . There is no file of that name on my PC 2. I am playing a track but there is no process called Inguz.dsp in Task Manager Is there any way of working out what is going wrong? OK - so Inguz (or at least INGUZDSP.EXE) is not installed or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
JezA;618025 Wrote: If a cable changes the tonal balance of a system it must be losing information. In particular, information about the tonal balance of the recording! You can only say this if you KNOW what the tonal balance of the recording actually is... Fortunately, this is easy to check

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread Phil Leigh
JezA;618022 Wrote: Why do you say 16AWG is adequate? What scientific support do you have for that claim? It certainly isn't sufficient for a Naim amp for example. Like I said, if you can't hear the differences don't worry about it. Yes... Naim in their infinite wisdom decided they could

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-14 Thread JohnSwenson
soundcheck;617858 Wrote: @bluegaspode. One more Q: Does anybody know what decode is actually doing in terms of binary algebra with the handed over gain value? Cheers The actual gain computations happen inside jive_alsa, I know exactly where, I'll take a look at it tonight.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
I tried to attach custom-convert.conf [C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ] but was told that it was an invalid file type funnily enough that path itself contains a folder InguzEQ with all the files same except custom-convert.conf in it no sign of inguzdsp.exe -- adamdea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;618075 Wrote: OK - so Inguz (or at least INGUZDSP.EXE) is not installed or is not being invoked. Inguzdsp.exe is the program that actually changes the sound. It is not being invoked, so you are not hearing any changes to the sound. First thing to check is that inguzdsp.exe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-14 Thread krzys
Is the MAC address 00:04:20:1e:01:7c in your custom-convert.conf the address of your actual player? Oh I see that you have another player too 00:04:20:22:01:8e. Are they your players (SB units) or do you have copied the custom-convert file from this tread? Chris -- krzys

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread pski
Howard Turkster;617824 Wrote: Switching from standard 12 AWG cable to Chord Co. Rumour cable was one of the better upgrades I've made to my sytem, after upgrading the RCA interconnects. And as good as those was replacing the A/C outlets with some respectable Porter Port outlets for $36

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread pski
Which speaker maker has a cable the size of a garden hose connecting the terminals to the individual drivers? Hands up. Point to websites. Over and out. -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread pski
JezA;618022 Wrote: Why do you say 16AWG is adequate? What scientific support do you have for that claim? It certainly isn't sufficient for a Naim amp for example. Like I said, if you can't hear the differences don't worry about it. fing moron -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-14 Thread pski
eriko;617951 Wrote: if one wants to tame, brighten, get fuller sound, get rid of bass bumps or increase etc etc...you simply use the inguz eq plug-in and a rs sound level meter. No wire can get the increase/decrease in the amount and the preferred frequency range like inguz. If someone