For Bryston users : Just came over this :
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_4_3/bryston3b5b.html
this is an old article, but maybe its still true, I dont know.
Seems that maybe an NOS dac would be the way to go for Bryston users,
or ?
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Hi Folks;
I don't know diddily about Dacs, but I'd like to suggest another forum
that seems to.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
I'm not post savvy enough to make that a real link, unless its done
automatically. Most of those posts are about outboard Dac's with a
final goal
Looks like it worked out very nicely. My home isn't as old, but I had
experienced dimming of the lights at an older home when I was much
younger and I used to blast my old Yamaha M85 285 W/C amp. The tweak
that I'm considering is getting a good power cord along with a new
receptacle for my amp to
Dimmers are a no-no in audiodisconnect them.
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Pacific valve has a great deal on the DIYEDEN Great March2.
I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to audition this or other
similar Chinese DACs.
it uses the PCM1798 chip and the DAC60, a tube DAC uses the PCM1704
chip.
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Ben,
I've thought of repacing the existing receptacles with Cu/Au Furutech
outlets, but wonder if I'll notice any difference in my system. I'd
like to ask how old your house is just to get an idea if I should
consider replacing my wires as well.
TIA,
Z
Ben Diss;181175 Wrote:
The single
Bob Bressler;181533 Wrote:
This is an interesting question. Over about a 6 week period, I have
tried a few different configurations, did a lot of listening and asked
all my friends for their preferences. The configurations were:
CD (AudioNote CDT Two) - DAC (AudioNote DAC5) - Preamp
Did not really compare via the speakers, did it via headphones only. I
will try some different music later.
Yes, the Philips is really good, for the money.
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If you don't hear a difference over headphones, you're extremely
unlikely to through speakers. If you move your listening position
slightly you will hear a different frequency response from speakers due
to room nodes etc. If you hear a difference through speakers but not
through headphones it's
opaqueice;181953 Wrote:
If you don't hear a difference over headphones, you're extremely
unlikely to through speakers. If you move your listening position
slightly you will hear a different frequency response from speakers due
to room nodes etc. If you hear a difference through speakers
P Floding;181966 Wrote:
Calling that a truth is a bit rich.
Have you ABX:ed enough source components to make such a statement?
Personally, no, but many others have. Anyway the blanket statement
that all DACs sound the same under all circumstances is certainly not
true. What does seem to be
opaqueice;181979 Wrote:
Personally, no, but many others have. Anyway the blanket statement that
all DACs sound the same under all circumstances is certainly not true.
What does seem to be true is that modern, well-designed DACs operating
under fair circumstances (like no big impedence
P Floding;181966 Wrote:
Have you ABX:ed enough source components to make such a statement?
That's cute ;)
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System:
SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step
Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch
jdbaker;181977 Wrote:
Anne,
My SB3 feeding the B-100 with the DAC and PSB Platinum T6 speakers is
my dream system. If you go that way I would love to hear how that
sounds. In my home office system I have my SB3 analog to my Arcam A32
using very nice Z squared copper interconnects and
Well, the Arcam cd72 is a very respectable cd player isnt it ?
I am a bit surpriced that you find the SB3 better, but well, its about
personal taste.
I wrote my comment because I was a bit embarrassed, in the beginning I
was overjoyed by the SB3, thought it sounded much better than my 963SA,
I
Anne;182089 Wrote:
Well, the Arcam cd72 is a very respectable cd player isnt it ?
I am a bit surpriced that you find the SB3 better, but well, its about
personal taste.
I wrote my comment because I was a bit embarrassed, in the beginning I
was overjoyed by the SB3, thought it sounded much
jdbaker;182127 Wrote:
Anne;182089 Wrote:
Well, the Arcam cd72 is a very respectable cd player isnt it ?
I am a bit surpriced that you find the SB3 better, but well, its about
personal taste.
I wrote my comment because I was a bit embarrassed, in the beginning I
was overjoyed by
happy;182141 Wrote:
jdbaker;182127 Wrote:
Just out of curiosity Is you SB modded or and what power supply do you
use?
Stock SB3 and power supply.
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Ben Diss;181175 Wrote:
The single biggest improvement I made to my system was running a
dedicated, clean, new power line from the breaker box to the wall
behind my rig. Knocked my socks off. Night vs. Day. That single
stroke started my audiophilia mania because I finally believed that I
adrianh1960;181368 Wrote:
I have the Bel Canto DAC 2 which sounds good with my unmodded SB3 until,
that is I compare with my Audio Synthesis CD Transport through same.
With the CD transport while the sound very similar the CD transport is
somehow less coarse in midrange (Piano, Vocals,
I am using Scott Nixon's TubeDAC+ with my SB3 and love it.
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This looks like a great deal as well...would love to know how it
compares with the DAC-60
http://www.pacificvalve.us/DIYEDEDNGM2.html
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I like the styling of that one. The Xilink chip is a nice touch as well.
I'm no fan of Delta Sigma DACs, so I won't comment on their BB chip
choice.
It does have a single conventional transformer instead of dual R core
units as in the DAC60.
Also, the analog RCA jacks appear to be of low
Ron Olsen;181176 Wrote:
Dunno, Ben; I bet the single biggest improvement was getting those
exceptional BW 803d's!
You would think so, but it didn't happen that way. I was running
Energy C6's and they had always sounded like crap; muddy, boomy, etc.
Started hanging out on the various forums
sonofcolin;180663 Wrote:
Bel Canto e.one DAC3 is a very impressive DAC to my ears (but not
cheap). I use it with USB from itunes/powerbook and SB3 (Bolder mod)
and is by far the best digital I have ever heard in my system.
I have the Bel Canto DAC 2 which sounds good with my unmodded SB3
jmourik;180695 Wrote:
I'll post my findings. I'm very curious to find out how the dac60
compares to these...
Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read
(including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the
benchmark.
I'me VERY curious to get other opinions
mmg_fan;181022 Wrote:
I'me VERY curious to get other opinions over how it compares with the
DAC-60
Me too, I just noticed though the order status is Back Ordered, No
Shipment Set :-( I'm not too happy with that site, they are slow. And
I haven't received any email updates either telling me it
mmg_fan;181022 Wrote:
Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read
(including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the
benchmark.
I'me VERY curious to get other opinions over how it compares with the
DAC-60
The problem is that over 80% of user's opinions
325xi wrote:
mmg_fan;181022 Wrote:
Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read
(including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the
benchmark.
The problem is that over 80% of user's opinions for benchmark are
negative... :(
Well, let me push that down to
Pat Farrell;181034 Wrote:
325xi wrote:
mmg_fan;181022 Wrote:
Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read
(including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the
benchmark.
The problem is that over 80% of user's opinions for benchmark are
negative...
ezkcdude;181059 Wrote:
Benchmark got great reviews from users until it got to be old news. Just
go look at any of the zillion Benchmark threads on head-fi. As soon as
something newer and shinier came along (Stello, Lavry, Bel Canto, etc),
everyone move on from the Benchmark. And all the
ditto...more info please!
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325xi;181072 Wrote:
and masses were praising Lavry.
One of the few commercial DAC's worthy of praise from a design
perspective.
325xi;181072 Wrote:
only mention on-chip PLL, which I wouldn't try to sell as especially
advanced feature.
I totally agree with you on this one, and I've even
sonofcolin;180663 Wrote:
Bel Canto e.one DAC3 is a very impressive DAC to my ears (but not
cheap). I use it with USB from itunes/powerbook and SB3 (Bolder mod)
and is by far the best digital I have ever heard in my system.
Sonofcolin,
I'd be curious what other Dacs you've used as I am
Pat Farrell;181034 Wrote:
325xi wrote:
mmg_fan;181022 Wrote:
Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read
(including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the
benchmark.
The problem is that over 80% of user's opinions for benchmark are
negative...
mr_bill;181098 Wrote:
The Benchmark is a great Dac! I think the higher resolving, the better
the Dac1 sounds. I used to think that is had a bit of hardness to it,
but that was a function of the amps I was using.
Sound quality differences among our various amp/speaker combos are
greater
Well, after a few hours in my audio only system (SB3, Bryston BP25
preamp, Bryston 3B Amp, and 20 yr old Energy 22 Connie's, I can't
hear to much of a difference between the Benchmark DAC1 and the SB3
DAC. Flicking back and forth is a chore however, the BP25 remote does
not allow for changing
sfraser;181151 Wrote:
Well, after a few hours in my audio only system (SB3, Bryston BP25
preamp, Bryston 3B Amp, and 20 yr old Energy 22 Connie's, I can't
hear to much of a difference between the Benchmark DAC1 and the SB3 DAC
Here's a quote from the Audio Critic that I think is pertinent:
Ron Olsen;181158 Wrote:
Here's a quote from the Audio Critic that I think is pertinent:
The loudspeaker will determine how your music system sounds. Not the
amplifier, not the preamplifier, not the CD or DVD player, nothing but
the loudspeaker. Speakers, even the finest, are far less
Ron Olsen;181158 Wrote:
Here's a quote from the Audio Critic that I think is pertinent:
The loudspeaker will determine how your music system sounds. Not the
amplifier, not the preamplifier, not the CD or DVD player, nothing but
the loudspeaker. Speakers, even the finest, are far less
The whole system needs to be balanced, the whole chain. Great
loudspeakers alone, crucial as they are, *can* be limited by the
amplifier driving them. To me the critical aspect in a system is
balance. One does not have to spend a lot of money these days to get
very good sound. And spening a lot
sfraser;181164 Wrote:
I agree, loudspeakers are the biggest factor and after that is
loudspeaker positioning in the room.
The single biggest improvement I made to my system was running a
dedicated, clean, new power line from the breaker box to the wall
behind my rig. Knocked my socks off.
Ben Diss;181175 Wrote:
The single biggest improvement I made to my system was running a
dedicated, clean, new power line from the breaker box to the wall
behind my rig. Knocked my socks off. Night vs. Day. That single
stroke started my audiophilia mania because I finally believed that I
No doubt important - but the good system needs to be in place.
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325xi;180582 Wrote:
Doesn't Stello have more connection options then DAC1?
But no analog volume control.
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NewBuyer wrote:
Please do consider the Mhdt Labs Paradisea in your list of DAC units to
pair with the SB3. It is a wonderful sounding DAC in my system, they
are hand-made and sold on Ebay (keep checking there, as Mhdt Labs
hand-builds them and sells them in batches). Usually goes for just
I'm using Musical Fidelity's X-DACv3, which is a huge improvement IMO.
Cheers,
/Johan
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Thanks..yes there are several threads dealing with this.
My first question is given my system (Magnepan MMG's, Jolida 100w/ch
hybrid) If I upgraded to either a Transporter or an external DAC, would
I be able to hear an audible impprovement?
Secondly, the general consensus is that there is
mmg_fan;180479 Wrote:
Secondly, the general consensus is that there is little or no audible
difference bewteen a good external DAC (I was thinking of the Lavery
Black at around $1200 Canadian) and the Transporter...I'm leaning
towards the former as an external DAC would allow me the
mmg_fan;180479 Wrote:
Thanks..yes there are several threads dealing with this.
My first question is given my system (Magnepan MMG's, Jolida 100w/ch
hybrid) If I upgraded to either a Transporter or an external DAC, would
I be able to hear an audible impprovement?
Secondly, the general
A good DAC greatly improves the SB, and in just the sort of ways that
your amp/speaker combination (can't sneer at any of the Maggies, even
the little ones) should be good at: rich, musical sound with the
digital harshness removed. I chose the Benchmark DAC1 over the Lavry
and the Stello DA220,
shyster;180528 Wrote:
I chose the Benchmark DAC1 over the Lavry and the Stello DA220, mostly
because it has good input/output flexibility...
Doesn't Stello have more connection options then DAC1?
I'm struggling to decide between Stello and Lavry. Lavry seems to be
engineered in more
Thanks for the DAC suggestions!
A previous post suggested looking at the Lite DAC-60...lots of godd
reviews and a pretty good price as well...under $600 us
Wonder how this compares with the Bencnhmark or Lavry and, since it is
tube based, if it might be a better match for my hybrid Jolida.
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mmg_fan;180594 Wrote:
A previous post suggested looking at the Lite DAC-60... Wonder how this
compares with the Bencnhmark or Lavry I ordered the Benchmark and the PS
Audio Digital Link III so I can
compare them against the Dac-60. I hope to have them by the end of the
week...
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jmourik
Bel Canto e.one DAC3 is a very impressive DAC to my ears (but not
cheap). I use it with USB from itunes/powerbook and SB3 (Bolder mod)
and is by far the best digital I have ever heard in my system.
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jmourik;180595 Wrote:
I ordered the Benchmark and the PS Audio Digital Link III so I can
compare them against the Dac-60. I hope to have them by the end of the
week...
Look forward to hearing your results. I have an eye on the Dac60.
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Nick77
Nick77;180684 Wrote:
Look forward to hearing your results. I have an eye on the Dac60.I'll post my
findings. I'm very curious to find out how the dac60
compares to these...
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Please do consider the Mhdt Labs Paradisea in your list of DAC units to
pair with the SB3. It is a wonderful sounding DAC in my system, they
are hand-made and sold on Ebay (keep checking there, as Mhdt Labs
hand-builds them and sells them in batches). Usually goes for just
under $500USD.
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Can anyone recommend an external DAC that would offer a noticeable
difference in audio quality for the sb?
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There are several threads dealing with this subject on these forums. If
you could give us an idea of your budget, and your system setup -
somebody might be able to point you towards the best options available
for your individual needs
Nikhil
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Check out the Lite Audio DAC-60. Around $470 from GR Research.
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Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC
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Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110
Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer.
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