Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
Soulkeeper;686061 Wrote: > It was OK when mcr was the only one. But now it seems he's brought his > friends/followers/sockpuppets/whatever (e.g. insisting that tweaking > the thread priorities of the LMS computer will affect the sound quality > of the Squeezebox, and demanding evidence from those

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-24 Thread Soulkeeper
It was OK when mcr was the only one. But now it seems he's brought his friends/followers/sockpuppets/whatever (e.g. insisting that tweaking the thread priorities of the LMS computer will affect the sound quality of the Squeezebox, and demanding evidence from those who try to explain reality in wor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-24 Thread jfo
magiccarpetride;686024 Wrote: > You guys are clueless. You think that a theatre performance only works > if attendees somehow get convinced that what's happening on the stage > is for real? > > You call me sophisticated but I can't help but call you dull. blah, blah, blah. Then why don't you ju

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Mnyb
chill;686023 Wrote: > This is what I admire about him. His responses are very cleverly > crafted to sound plausible. He gives the genuine impression that he > believes all this stuff himself. A troll for sure, but a highly > sophisticated troll who knows how to get the best out of his audience

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread MichaelJ
magiccarpetride;686024 Wrote: > You guys are clueless. You think that a theatre performance only works > if attendees somehow get convinced that what's happening on the stage > is for real? > > You call me sophisticated but I can't help but call you dull. "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
chill;686023 Wrote: > This is what I admire about him. His responses are very cleverly > crafted to sound plausible. He gives the genuine impression that he > believes all this stuff himself. A troll for sure, but a highly > sophisticated troll who knows how to get the best out of his audience

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread chill
darrell;686020 Wrote: > Oh, I think I realised this. I've been following other threads... But > some of it is just about plausible enough to confuse sufferers of > "audiophilia nervosa" This is what I admire about him. His responses are very cleverly crafted to sound plausible. He gives the ge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread darrell
TheOctavist;686015 Wrote: > gobshite foominded rubbish.cant make a difference. period... > > funny tho. mcr is clever, pisstake artiste > Oh, I think I realised this. I've been following other threads... But some of it is just about plausible enough to confuse sufferers of "audiophilia nervosa"

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread adamdea
TheOctavist;686015 Wrote: > > funny tho. mcr is clever, pisstake artiste > ] Has been clear for ages. But still people fall for it. -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread TheOctavist
gobshite foominded rubbish.cant make a difference. period... funny tho. mcr is clever, pisstake artiste www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/410900-does-semi-high-end-power-cable-make-difference-poll.html -- TheOctavist Vortexbox>SBT(TT 3.0)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Humme

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Mnyb
darrell;686007 Wrote: > > In theory, as a species who has deconstructed the human genome, > analysing and then replicating chemically a bottle of wine, or anything > else, is trivial. The practicalities are of course different. > But in the case of an electrical conductor, where there are only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
darrell;686007 Wrote: > You have confirmed my point - for you, it still works even though you > know it's a lie! Perhaps, to be fair to people who come after us on > what is, after all, a public forum, you should put the above quote in > your signature. Please tell me what else should I do? I've

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread darrell
magiccarpetride;685996 Wrote: > I am aware that Tiger balm is just a pile of superstition, but hey, it > works for me despite the fact that I'm fully aware of the sham. > You have confirmed my point - for you, it still works even though you know it's a lie! Perhaps, to be fair to people who come

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
Mnyb;686003 Wrote: > These products are a fraud as simple as that. There, there. Feel better now? -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Mnyb
Yes there is real engineering and there is high end cable " engineering " most of the technobable of those companies is invented in thier marketing departments, the mere concept of designing 1000$ power cables or similar proves that you simply don't understand how things work. The market dept on t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
darrell;685993 Wrote: > I'm not talking about measurements here. Blind testing is not about > measurements, it's about confirming (or not) that the effect is still > (subjectively) detectable, once as much as is humanly possible is done > to remove possible sources of bias. > > I find this disc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread darrell
magiccarpetride;685974 Wrote: > But you miss my point. I am not a machine, and to me 'objective' > measurements mean dick. Placebo is what I'm after. Let me put it this > way: suppose I'm in pain, and some placebo pill makes the pain go away. > At the same time, some non-placebo pill, containing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
Mnyb;685972 Wrote: > Hmm in a credibility contest I think Bryston thrumps shunyata whatever > vested interest they may have ;) > > It is one the really well engineered brands left , and they have the > curage to build voodoo free products. Maybe if Shunyata started building amplifiers it wouldn

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
darrell;685968 Wrote: > No, a blind test will establish whether you *really* hear a difference > between different power cords - you may have fallen victim to the > placebo effect, or some variant thereof. Of course, if you are able to > distinguish between them under blind conditions, you can th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Mnyb
Hmm in a credibility contest I think Bryston thrumps shunyata whatever vested interest they may have ;) It is one the really well engineered brands left , and they have the curage to build voodoo free products. -- Mnyb Main

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread darrell
magiccarpetride;685954 Wrote: > Good points. Regarding point #1, we've already discussed elsewhere how > difficult it gets to match the wine with the meal. Different > connoisseurs will have different experiences when pairing different > wines/meals. Same goes for power cables. On my system, whic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread vett93
Let me share the cheapest tweak I have implemented in this area. I first found this info from audiogon and it costs about $3. You can find the product in a nearby hardware store too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPI_ByD0Q0 -- vett93 Main system: Source: Transporter, modded by ModWright:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
vett93;685953 Wrote: > I had a few Shunyata Venum power cords in my main system a few years > back. Since then, I have retired them to my HDTV and 2nd audio system. > My 65" HDTV looks better now than when I bought it years ago. Using it > on HDTV would be a quick and easy test to see the effect.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread vett93
I had a few Shunyata Venum power cords in my main system a few years back. Since then, I have retired them to my HDTV and 2nd audio system. My 65" HDTV looks better now than when I bought it years ago. Using it on HDTV would be a quick and easy test to see the effect. -- vett93 Main system: So

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
darrell;685944 Wrote: > Admirable scepticism, albeit a little intemperately expresssed. But > shouldn't the same be applied to the people who have sold you 3x$99 > power cables over the past few days (in the absence of blind testing, > etc)? > > I also wonder why Bryston would cripple the sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread darrell
magiccarpetride;685935 Wrote: > OK, let's get real for a moment: first off, anyone can fabricate an > 'official' email that he has received from some representative (and if > not fabricate, then at least doctor that email). So I wouldn't put too > much stock into the quoted email. > > Secondly,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread vett93
It is conflict of interest to ask audio equipment manufacturers if changing power cords would improve sound. If they say yes, it implies that their designs are not sufficient. IMO, beside room treatment and speaker placement, power treatment (power supply design, noise filtering, wire material)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
Jeff Flowerday;685903 Wrote: > If you really want to have fun, create this exact thread in the > 2-Channel forum on www.avsforum.com > > > It'll be fun, trust me. :) OK, you have my permission to do that. -- magiccarpetride ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
chill;685898 Wrote: > Thank you MCR - this place was dying a death without you. > > So is your power conditioner still in warranty? I've acquired a nasty habit of buying, whenever possible, second hand equipment. I'm cheap that way. -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
Ron Olsen;685915 Wrote: > See > http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8225947#post8225947: > > Quote: > How's about what Chris Russell of Bryston has to say when I emailed him > some time back? > > Quote: > Thanks for your interesting inquiry re power cords. I can answer fully > with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Hofstede
I work at a factory which has it's own power generation plant. Maybe I should connect my audio equipment directly to the generator system of the gasturbine. That should give some perfect sound At least my co-workers would have a good laugh. -- Hofstede --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Ron Olsen
See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8225947#post8225947: Quote: How's about what Chris Russell of Bryston has to say when I emailed him some time back? Quote: Thanks for your interesting inquiry re power cords. I can answer fully with normal engineering considerations and simple

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread vett93
Been there, done that years ago though :-) -- vett93 Main system: Source: Transporter, modded by ModWright: http://www.modwright.com/modifications/transporter-truth-mods.php Preamp: Dude from Tube Research Labs: http://www.tuberesearchlabs.com/products/dude.html Amp: NP100 Platinum from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread Jeff Flowerday
If you really want to have fun, create this exact thread in the 2-Channel forum on www.avsforum.com It'll be fun, trust me. :) -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread chill
Thank you MCR - this place was dying a death without you. So is your power conditioner still in warranty? -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.sli

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My third Shunyata power cable

2012-01-23 Thread magiccarpetride
There are people who believe that replacing stock power cables on audio components with high quality power cables improves the sound quality. Those people may be crazy, or they may be correct in their beliefs, the jury is still out. There are, on the other hand, people who, upon learning that som