Andyoz Wrote:
There's also the serious issue of what type of RJ-45 connectors sound
best, the white ones or the clear ones?
Re. wireless networks, that's been discussed. They're up in arms about
RFI issues affecting the rest of their kit.
They're plastic so you can be sure they'll start
...and cryogenically treating them!
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CardinalFang Wrote:
When is that show? I haven't been to one for years! Out of interest,
what ancilliary gear do you use in shows? Is it something exotic and
mortgage-inducing to get that all-important audio-nut cred :-)
In the shows I have done recently in the US and CEDIA UK, we used
Jez Wrote:
That's not to say that if some manufacturer of high-end equipment wants
to loan us stuff we'd say no. In fact at CEDIA I had nice chat with
some of the guys from DALI and happened to mention we'd be very happy
to use their speakers for demos . . well you gotta wish . .
You should
CardinalFang Wrote:
You should be talking to high end DAC people like dCS as well, I'd love
to hear my SB through one of their units. I guess it could also go the
other way - are you planning to lend units to high end manufacturers? I
heard that some are already using iPods for demos.
When
For a simple, only-slightly-less-than-audiophile-quality setup, a
Squeezebox paired with Swan S200a powered speakers
(http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=256)
sounds (and looks) SWEET! Maybe Jon at www.theaudioinsider.com would
be interested in hooking up with Slimdevices for demo
CardinalFang Wrote:
When is that show? I haven't been to one for years!
I think it is this one: www.whathifishow.co.uk
November in Hammersmith.
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mikerob Wrote:
I think it is this one: www.whathifishow.co.uk
November in Hammersmith.
Excellent - I sometimes park there when I go into London, just off the
flyover and across the road from the tube station and the old
Hammersmith Odeon. That reminds me, I saw Frank Zappa and the Tubes at
Jez Wrote:
I know what you mean. I think it all boils down to a feeling that, for
me at least, my music collection really matters and is very personal.
Having a physical aspect to represent its importance to me is . .
reassuring.
Absolutely, each LP holds a memory of when I bought it and
An very old banner on an advertising poster springs to mind.
They say that Naim's entry into digital jukeboxes will legitamise the
market... The bastards say 'Welcome!'
(Originally by Data General about IBM's entry into the minicomputer
market)
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blueranger
If audio is going to move to stealth systems with low box counts, I
assume we will be seeing speaker manufacturers starting to push the
active speaker concept.
There are a few out there at the moment but you are really into looking
at pro-audio offerings, many of which look a bit shitty.
I
I'm currently in the UK having attended the CEDIA show with the guys at
Progressive and we've seen the NAIM system and several others.
One interesting thing that came to light with NaimNet is it's lack of
Internet Radio support. It may well be less relevant for their
customers or it may just be
Jez Wrote:
A lot of people talked about sticking SB's in rack with amps, etc and
running cable out to each room. We're happy for them to do that, but
they couldn't seem to get their heads around having the SB in the
listening room rather than the wiring closet.
It's a bit of a worry that
Andyoz Wrote:
It's a bit of a worry that some experts are thinking that way re. the
Squeezebox. Completely missing the point.
The whole reason I stayed away from central server systems for so long
were the sound degradation issues inherent in long cable runs. Before
the Squeezebox, I
Jez wrote:
I'm currently in the UK having attended the CEDIA show with the guys at
Progressive and we've seen the NAIM system and several others.
Hey Jez,
Who's here, and where are you? Would like to get to meet you guys
eventually...
R.
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Robin Bowes Wrote:
Jez wrote:
I'm currently in the UK having attended the CEDIA show with the guys
at
Progressive and we've seen the NAIM system and several others.
Hey Jez,
Who's here, and where are you? Would like to get to meet you guys
eventually...
R.
Myself and patrick
Jez Wrote:
A lot of these guys feel if they are not laying miles of cables and
other 'obvious legwork' customers will no longer hire custom install
companies.
Bingo. Most whole-house systems consist of a homerun closet full of
gear and miles of wire. The main skills of the custom houses
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
Bingo. Most whole-house systems consist of a homerun closet full of
gear and miles of wire. The main skills of the custom houses are in
hiding all the wires and configuring a complex control system. The SB
sweeps away the need for most of that.
Very apt initial point
Jez Wrote:
However, it's looking very likely that at least i will be back for the
What Hi-Fi show later in the year . . . in fact it might be worth us
looking at at some sort squeezebox owners group meeting in or around
the show. This is completely off the top of my head so I'm not making
GeeZa Wrote:
I'd like to see Slim perhaps do more co-marketing with the likes of
Meridian and ATC.
I think someone needs to really push the active speaker concept into
the mainstream. The more domestic friendly versions of active
speaker out there, the better.
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GeeZa Wrote:
Very apt initial point by Jez and I think he is accurate in his
assessment of that industry segment. Traditional audiophiles like
tangibles like boxes and cables and wiring etc. and do probably have a
hard time with concepts like wireless data. Not being condescending, I
just
Andyoz wrote:
I think someone needs to really push the active speaker concept into
the mainstream. The more domestic friendly versions of active
speaker out there, the better.
Yeah, I wish Paradigm would bring out a new edition of their Studio Actives.
--rt
GeeZa Wrote:
Very apt initial point by Jez and I think he is accurate in his
assessment of that industry segment. Traditional audiophiles like
tangibles like boxes and cables and wiring etc. and do probably have a
hard time with concepts like wireless data. Not being condescending, I
just
CardinalFang Wrote:
That's very true - I still like having something physical when I buy
music and I still hanker after the old gatefold album sleeves - my
mint copy of Roxy Music's first Album still makes e feel all warm and
fuzzy.
I know what you mean. I think it all boils down to a
Andyoz Wrote:
If audio is going to move to stealth systems with low box counts, I
assume we will be seeing speaker manufacturers starting to push the
active speaker concept.
The one other thing that would be helpful would be to have a plugin for
Squeezebox that would enable you to play an
CardinalFang Wrote:
I still like having something physical when I buy music and I still
hanker after the old gatefold album sleeves - my mint copy of Roxy
Music's first Album still makes e feel all warm and fuzzy.
Totally agree, and a *lot* of indie labels are seeing a real upsurge in
vinyl
24-bit capable servers! Can't stop laughing!
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Looks like a nice end to end solution, but my god they look expensive!!
especially the music server with built in colour LCD display.
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If it's Naim it'll probably sound great, but it'll also probably be
*VERY* expensive! $$$
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You can bet on the expensive part. Naim's new CD555 integrated costs
£15,000 sounds, or $26500. And that is without the optional 555PS
external power supply, which cost another $8,000 or so.
And that's just for the top end CD player. They are known for their
amplifiers.
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agentsmith
That piece of news has coursed something of a stir on the audiophile
forums over here in the UK. It's great to watch all this unfolding.
One humurous contributor has already predicted heated discussions in
the future regarding which brand of Cat 5 cable sounds best. Don't
laugh, it will happen.
Andyoz Wrote:
That piece of news has coursed something of a stir on the audiophile
forums over here in the UK. It's great to watch all this unfolding.
One humurous contributor has already predicted heated discussions in
the future regarding which brand of Cat 5 cable sounds best. Don't
There's also the serious issue of what type of RJ-45 connectors to
terminate the Cat 5 cable.
Re. wireless networks, that's been discussed. They're up in arms about
RFI issues affecting the rest of the kit.
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I'm very much a Naim enthusiast, and am usually awed by what they
produce. But I'm shocked at what appears to be a very late-90s-esque
approach to this. NaimNet?!? Who came up with that name? I knew this
was in the works there, but hoped they'd have a more innovative
approach. I'm sure this is
michel Wrote:
24-bit capable servers! Can't stop laughing!
Hi,
Please do tell. I dont get the joke.
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@agentsmith
Servers are just computers. They handle files without regard to bit
depth (certain limits apply of course).
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Maybe 24bit refers to the DAC? All-in-all I don't think Slim Devices
have anything to worry about, just reading the Naim pdf brochure gave
me a migrane. Whether there is a market for this high-end server stuff
I don't know, most people who know what they're doing can achieve much
the same sort of
Is it just me or does this smack of desperation? (surely this horse left
town years ago...)
Why do Naim need to do this? Maybe the bottom is falling out of the
high-end CDP market... (chortle)
It'll cost squillions. Sure, it looks great, but...why why why?
Some people must have more money than
Andyoz Wrote:
One humurous contributor has already predicted heated discussions in the
future regarding which brand of Cat 5 cable sounds best. Don't laugh, it
will happen.
Who's taking bets? I'm guessing Belden 1874A will develop a
following.
Okay, the notion of the cable used for
Why indeed. This clearly wasn't conceived/developed by Naim's team
alone. They have their own little way of doing things, but it usually
seems to make sense, and is easily communicated.
With this, they have so many partners creating the different pieces
that it's doomed to feel disconnected and
I'm wondering if these guys and the audiodeck guys mentioned in another
thread are leveraging PlutoHome http://plutohome.com
Have any of you given PlutoHome a try (it apparently supports the
squeezebox)? I'm curious about how well it all works in the end. I've
been eyeing it lustfully for some
ModMike Wrote:
Why indeed. This clearly wasn't conceived/developed by Naim's team
alone. They have their own little way of doing things, but it usually
seems to make sense, and is easily communicated.
With this, they have so many partners creating the different pieces
that it's doomed to
Oh I think it looks and sounds a mess. Communication via a switchbox is
going to give you miles of CAT5. We're all Wifi now remember, who want
horrible cables. Yuk. A 16 page brochure and yet if you read it
carefully it doesn't offer much more functionality than a SB3. I
particularly liked:
Now
nelamvr6 Wrote:
What are they gonna do about Audiophile grade wireless networks? :D
That's easy - pump in an audiophile-approved air mix for the signal to
carry over. The pump is $7995, replacement tanks are $2495
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Whose selling those pumps and are they available in the UK?
I wonder how long before they try bi-wiring their Cat5 data cabling.
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Is using the number RS-232 on the network products some sort of joke by
the developers ?
RS-232 is the old modem standard 300-19.2k bit/sec.
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jbm0 Wrote:
Who's taking bets? I'm guessing Belden 1874A will develop a following.
And I forgot to mention: it goes to ELEVEN.
(It's not merely CAT5, it's CAT*6*).
Just the thing to make your listen to _Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You
Tonight_ even more compelling, if that's possible.
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bpa Wrote:
Is using the number RS-232 on the network products some sort of joke by
the developers ?
RS-232 is the old modem standard 300-19.2k bit/sec.
rs-232 is still the control standard for many devices. The naim system
will use controllers that will sit on the cat-5 network that will
It's not suprising. I think most audio companies will be rolling out
their own digital media systems, just like a few years ago when they
were forced to do home theater or wither away. I laughed at last
year's CES reports where the columnists endlessly gushed about 5-figure
jukebox systems and
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