Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus of Ponta Delgada?

2015-05-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, Sao Mateus is same as Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Post the record where you saw this. Thanks! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help please

2015-05-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
It says she's natural of N. Senhora da Piedade but baptized in this parish of Nossa Senhora do Rosario and gives the dates mentioned above. According to this she wouldn't be showing up in Rio's records. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help please

2015-05-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
it shows 1777. The pages are all consecutively numbered. But if you go down to the last line you should be able to read that they couldn't find the original record by sentence of the Rev. Vicar Joao Bento Pacheco presented by the baptised because the original record cannot be found. So Joana

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A letter to the reader - in a baptism book!

2015-05-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
That note was made as a result of the records audit starts saying: of the reviewed 174 birth records in this book I note that the record numbers 6-7-8-9 etc. ... do not conform with article 6 of the decree of 2 April 1862 and he goes on to site the problems against certain lines

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A letter to the reader - in a baptism book!

2015-05-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: That note was made as a result of the records audit starts saying: of the reviewed 174 birth records in this book I note that the record numbers 6-7-8-9 etc. ... do not conform with article 6

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help please - Rabo de Peixe

2015-05-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
19-May-1914 Francisco Gomes de Sequeira son of Manuel Gomes Xapado (Chapado) and Apolonia de Sequeira with Maria da Costa daughter of Antam (Antao) da Costa Columbreiro and Maria ? Sorry I just can't quite make out the surname of the bride's Mother.I'll have another look in the morning.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unknown Phrase

2015-04-28 Thread Margaret Vicente
Walt, it's not just that all interpretations only make sense based on their respective timelines. When houses were first built, none of them were numbered. When Parishes grew bigger later on came the numbering system. Dano, you stand correct if the word was written with an e enumerado (a) but

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown Phrase

2015-04-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Walt, you should post the link so we can be sure but the word should be inumerada it means a unnumbered house or house without number. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:27 PM, akatex aka...@earthlink.net wrote: Can anyone help me with a phrase that I have not seen until looking at some recent obitis

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry guys but carneiro and cordeiro are both sheep. Cordeiro is a sheep under 1 year old (young lamb) never-the-less it is a Lamb Carneiro being an adult sheep is a lamb just the same... :) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: George, To my knowledge, the two

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thank you, Walter! Margaret On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, thanks so much Walt! This is a great help to all of us. As you know from your searching different priests use different abbreviations for the same names and sometimes it takes years

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Lee, Do some more research. Chapado is a Spanish surname and no surprise it turns up in S.Miguel for Portugal was under Spanish rule for almost a century. I did a search at the Biblioteca Genalogica de Lisboa and it shows up in Rodrigo Rodrigues. If it were a nick (alcunha) RR would have

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello there Cousin Pat. Sorry I was thinking you were the person Cheri was referring to on the initial email. Margaret On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pat, Don't be shy next time. This is my family on my paternal/maternal side

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Pat, Don't be shy next time. This is my family on my paternal/maternal side and perhaps I could have saved you some time had you posted your question. I'm not sure what you're looking at but do not confuse Zeferino with Jose Zeferino. Zeferino born in 1794 is the father of Jose Zeferino who

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby

2015-04-21 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, This is Zeferino's birth record. The priest wrote (Josef.ro). joseferino Cheers, Margaret On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you Cheri, I did not see it before as well. I believe it was added there a few minutes later, for

[AZORES-Genealogy] MR. CORREIA

2015-04-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello One and All. Does anyone in the group manage the kit for a Mr. Correia? My Dad's Ydna shows a match at a genetic distance 2. My 5th GF was an exposto in S. Pedro, Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel and I would appreciate anyone's help in tracing it. Thank you, -- Margaret M Vicente -- For

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Ribeirinha marriage of Thome Pacheco and Joanna Ignacia

2015-04-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, It is Bibiana Faleira. Margaret On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Looking again the second letter is an “a” which does not fit with Perreira or Ferreira. Could it be Fareia (Faria)?* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel*

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

2015-04-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
.The date is as entered by Rickson of Pedro Goncalves and his wife (name is a guess of my part but it may be Maria Carvalho) residing in Sao Pedro, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande.with Maria de Teves daughter of Joao de Teves and his wife Maria Ferreira. Margaret Vicente On Wed, Apr 1, 2015

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A baptism sub conditione...

2015-03-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
in the church but you would not see the words sub conditione. This is my understanding of the process, others may wish to chime in. Hope this helps clarify your question. Margaret Vicente On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: On left side the 3 one down

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

2015-03-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
) and his wife Isabel de Nabais (Novais), both deceased. Take care, Margaret Vicente On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM, brownat68 browna...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Can someone translate the last records on the right for me? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me, Jacinto da Costa and Anna de Jesus. Below certificate is what I have.Please scroll below CHERI

2015-03-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, A little confusing but I'm seeing multiple requests for the same subject line. Aaron and I have already aided the answer in a different email. Cheers, Margaret On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:21 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: I just copy the url from the address bar and paste it to the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

2015-03-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: It is written donina on my phone looked like domino an his other children Theresa in 1700, Joseph 1703, João 1704 the alcunha and neither is on his marriage On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me, Jacinto da Costa and Anna de Jesus. Below certificate is what I have.Please scroll below

2015-03-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Ana de Jesus, daughter (filha) de Joao Pereira and Catarina de Oliveira widower of Brizida (Brigida) Maria natural of Vila Nova do Topo of this island or of this said island where he was baptised. Date is correct On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 9:44 PM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: [image: 0121

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

2015-03-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but for all it's worth the word is clearly not domino which would have an accent grave over the letter o.unless the priest made a mistake what he wrote was donina. I would try finding other records

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

2015-03-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Eliseu, I think you just looked at one such document but, if you want more proof try googling it. Below are some examples https://pt-br.facebook.com/donina.eunice http://www.kidspot.co.nz/babynamefinder/Donina+F+spanish+baby-name.htm http://www.bookdepository.com/author/Umberto-Donina Josefa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

2015-03-28 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry but for all it's worth the word is clearly not domino which would have an accent grave over the letter o.unless the priest made a mistake what he wrote was donina. I would try finding other records to confirm one way or the other... Margaret Vicente On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with grooms mothers name in Faial da Terra, SM marriage record`

2015-03-19 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Lee, It's Maria Teixeira. The other is Catharina (Catarina). All else is correct. Margaret On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote: With the help of JR who pointed me in the right direction; I finally found the marriage record of my elusive Manoel Rapozo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Child's given name

2015-03-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Paul, The Name is Niculao (Nicolau). Check out the Godfather's name, it's the same. Margaret On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: The priest that wrote this record has a way of writing the letter a. I found a sibling to my 5X great grandmother Joanna da Silva

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What surname is this?

2015-03-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Eliseu, that's it Perico. Andy now has the right answer. Thanks, Margaret Vicente On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com wrote: Margaret J You got a point there! I looked at Rodrigo Rodrigues and it is said there that the name is PERICO (I keep

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What surname is this?

2015-03-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Andrew, on the 2nd link it is visible to me Ricaço Watch for the , underneath the last c. Margaret On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:08 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: Hi Andrew, It certainly is a tricky one. I don't think it's an R because the down stroke are pretty evident and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What surname is this?

2015-03-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
record same priest writes two forms of Pachequo and Pacheco. Cheers, Margaret Vicente On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Eliseu, after seeing the original document, it is Pexeco, the old way of Pacheco. Isabella Baltar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with parents names

2015-03-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, Groom, Manuel Pacheco. Parents are Manuel Pacheco Velho and Isabel Dias de Almada Bride Maria Magalhois (Magalhaes). Parents: Manuel Gomes de Braga and Ana de Magalhois (Magalhaes). If you take a look at the previous page, mid record, you will note the bride's brothe, Manuel Lourecor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with parents names

2015-03-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
typo correction: brother, Manuel Lourenco. On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Groom, Manuel Pacheco. Parents are Manuel Pacheco Velho and Isabel Dias de Almada Bride Maria Magalhois (Magalhaes). Parents: Manuel Gomes de Braga and Ana

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Both mother's surnames on casamentos for Joao Marianna

2015-03-12 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Paul, You've got the Teixeira right. His Mother is Rosa de Andrade and the bride's is Margarida de Almada. You're welcome Margaret On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: I am trying to figure out the the surnames for both the grooms brides mother's. The

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande, S. Miguel island

2015-02-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com escreveu: Marcio, Both lines are my direct ancestors, Manuel da Costa Marecos (S. Miguel) and that of Raimundo Machado (Terceira). Braz Cardoso marriage date was on the 15th of Jan 1673. 2015-02-21 19:03 GMT-05:00 'Joao S. Lopes' via Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Baptista Cordeiro

2015-02-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Bill, The word is coroa CROWN. Our Lady of Miracles was invoked as the Godmother and they touched the baby's head with her crown. That was one of the practice's up to this day. Not very common but usually based on a faith promise e.g. if the baby is healthy and all goes well Our Lady will

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande, S. Miguel island

2015-02-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Marcio, Both lines are my direct ancestors, Manuel da Costa Marecos (S. Miguel) and that of Raimundo Machado (Terceira). Braz Cardoso marriage date was on the 15th of Jan 1673. 2015-02-21 19:03 GMT-05:00 'Joao S. Lopes' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com: *Gráfico Ahnentafel para

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of João Baptista Cordeiro, Urzelina, 1852

2015-02-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Bill, you got it right. That's how it was written unfortunately. You will have to find other children's records to see if one of them will state which parish they belonged to in S. Miguel. On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:51 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now having trouble with my wife's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria, The document reads as I have translated it above. They were cousins. The dispensation or permission to marry was allowed by the See Doctor Damaso Jose de Carvalho. There is nothing on it about an error. Cheers, On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Consaguinidad question on marriage record

2015-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria Elena, it says they were blood related and that they were given dispensation to marry as there were no other impediments. It does not sate the degree of that blood relation which could have been a clerical omission. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record for Domingos Pereira Areia and Ursula Marques...top left of page 13

2015-02-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Evee, the records is about Domingos marriagewith Ursula who was the widow of the late Antonio Nunes do Amaral On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Evee Silva Kiler ejki...@gmail.com wrote: This is the link to the marriage record for Domingos Pereira Areia and Ursula Marques...top left of page 13

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth record for Inacia Herminia de Sousa of Santo Amaro, Pico

2015-02-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Evee, Jose Maria de Bettencourt, married and a Customs Officer was the godfather by proxy and his Procurator was Padre (Father) Manuel Polycarpo Pereira da Terra, Cura of this church with Dona Ignacia (Inacia) .who was also represented via proxy by Sabina da Terra, single. On Wed, Feb 4,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo record for Jose de Andrade

2015-02-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Paul, The record does list the Mother's name as Antonia do Anjo (of the Angel) Please note and in my opinion if you are working within the right time frame this may very well be the right record. Women's religious names were variable during a certain time lines. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/baptism from Pedro Miguel, Horta, Faial

2015-02-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
but those margin notes really confuse me!! Thanks so much for helping. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Fawn, This person died in Pedro Miguel, Faial as per the side note. The year of death is half hidden, Apr 14

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/baptism from Pedro Miguel, Horta, Faial

2015-01-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
Fawn, This person died in Pedro Miguel, Faial as per the side note. The year of death is half hidden, Apr 14 1894? doc. no. 108 pg. ?54 . Since you found the passport, what age does it say he was and when was it issued? Was he single when he left? usually the parents names are listed for single

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help for Death Record

2015-01-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
Diane, The priest wrote multiple deaths in the same obit. I've seen it before in the case of accidents when they hall happened to die together but in this case the priest does not specify. Here's the gist of it: On January 23rd 1705 we buried Francisco De Utra Machado and Maria da Rosa wife of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2nd marriage for Bernardino Jose de Andrade 1849

2015-01-20 Thread Margaret Vicente
Paul, It says she was baptized in the Parish of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Ribeira Grande On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: Does the record state when/where Eufigenia was born or baptized? I see her fathers name is Joaquim Joze da? Mother is Claudina Roza.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Horta Passport

2015-01-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
The word is subdito means SubjectAmerican Subject. Margaret On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Eleanor You seem to have most of it. It is a bit of a stretch but SOBIT could be Sul da, with the da written after he had written Americano. The

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting record NS Estrela 1798

2015-01-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Not everything we read is quite the way we think especially almost 200 years ago, with a different culture and most especially when we don't keep it all in context. The birth record reads the Father appeared before the Priest on April 28th 1798 to say the baptized was his daughter and that he

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translating a document

2015-01-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Al, No machine assisted translator will be able to get the proper nuances, at least not yet. I've found Wordfast to work better then most. Wordfast Anywhere site *http://www.wordfast.net/ http://www.wordfast.net/* On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:31 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of child out of wedlock.

2015-01-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Any time, Bill. Take care! Margaret On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:05 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: Once again, thank you Margaret for being so informative, insightful, and gracious. Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of child out of wedlock.

2015-01-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Bill, as far as I know and if the person was married, the process was to adopt the children 'under' the marriage umbrella with the wife now being the legal mother. If the wife died in the interim the father could go through the process of perfilhacao which is more like adopting but not quite.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Devotional names

2015-01-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Bill, good work. With reference to changing names. Her name is Maria and you can verify that against the birth record. The 2nd name is an add on by the parents and family until Civil registry was implemented in 1911 for the general population. There's a couple of possibilities, in my opinion.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Devotional names

2015-01-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
sorry Bill, I also meant to say that your best source of information is her children's birth records for both marriages. They will show if the was a clerical error or if she indeed used one or the other. Cheers, On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obito for Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo

2015-01-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo married to Bernardinho Jose de Arruda, deceased on July 13 1848 and 28 years old. All else is about having received the Sacraments with burial on July 14 1848 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:49 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Paul,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Devotional names

2015-01-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Bill, on the 2nd page, top, the priest wrote Rosa da Conceicao known as Rosa dos Anjos as per her first marriage, whom I know to be the proper with all the current documentation.. He's 21, single, locksmith, natural of S. Pedro of this city, residing at rua dos Foros (Foros St.) of this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother

2015-01-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
It is Violante Augusta da Soledade. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, I have an extended family member and both her parents are from the Azores and her name is Viola and we call her Vi. E On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptismo for Maria Joesefa Corvello Pais Fransisco Corvelo e Isabel Fransisca

2015-01-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Anthony, That was a common occurrence when the situation was urgent and the child was weak some one with knowledge of the Sacrament of baptism would perform it.. The child was baptized in the church sub conditione under condition (term of the church) due to her having been baptized at home

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lomba do Loução

2015-01-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Paul, Records post 1905 were not uploaded for Povoacao, S. Miguel. If there's a particular record you're looking for you may wish to contact them.at drac@azores.gov.pt On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, No clue. Don't know what island you

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptismo for Maria Joesefa Corvello Pais Fransisco Corvelo e Isabel Fransisca

2015-01-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
No problem, Tony. Practice makes perfect :) Cheers, On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mara, That makes perfect sense. Much more than a second unrelated child showing up. Thank you for the assistance. Every time I think I am getting good

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dec 1668 Marriage in Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada

2014-12-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
HAPPY NEW YEAR! No parents names were being recorded at this time. Those are witnesses, Joseph Cabeceiras, Manuel da Camara de Araujo and others. On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I see date 3 Dec 1668, Manuel Oliveira and Maria

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dec 1668 Marriage in Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada

2014-12-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thanks for the correction Manoel. On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: The witness is not Joseph Cabedeiras. It's Jeffrey Cobbs, an english man, trader, living in Ponta Delgada at this time; he married Maria de Pimentel daughter of João Cordeiro da Cunha and Clara

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Bretanha Record 1769

2014-12-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rick, You didn't say which record but, having read both I'm presuming you want clarification on the record on the right page, Antonio Pavam (Pavao) and Maria Pavoa (Pavao)? It says he was baptized in the Parish mentioned above (Ajuda) and deobligated in the Parish of Santos da Corte in the city

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of word in obitos

2014-12-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rick, It can only be shown by example. Please have a look at this record and compare it to your link. What do you see different? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1799-1811/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1799-1811_item1/P113.html and now look at this one where the words

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of word in obitos

2014-12-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
it better. * *Thank you Margaret and I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:14 AM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of word in obitos

2014-12-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rick, that's a misinterpretation. Most adults are sui juris for it means in latin fully responsible. The one who possess full civil rights and is under no obligation with the law or parents and it also apply to married persons. In the 1800's the Church used it often to mean single/independent

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of word in obitos

2014-12-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
sorry, here's the link; http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/S/SuiJuris.aspx On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, that's a misinterpretation. Most adults are sui juris for it means in latin fully responsible. The one who possess full

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with names of places in a baptisim record

2014-12-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carolyn, Where are you researching? Is this in the Lisbon region? I need to know which Parish this is. after Maria do Carmo reads desta freguesia of this Parish On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Carolyn M carolynmoro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I need some help with the name of the place

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting baptism - people from Holland in Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel island

2014-12-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, It's the baptism of Joao de Freitas, adult, 25 years old, (more or less) and previosly of the Protestant faith who wished to become a catholic. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: The following record was called to my attention. Joao on the right

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with names of places in a baptisim record

2014-12-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carolyn, it now makes sense. the name of the place is Murça which is next to Carrazeda de Ansiaes and beside Mirandela. Cheers, Have a look at the link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Carrazeda_de_Ansi%C3%A3es_freguesias_2013.svg On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Cheri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Marriage

2014-12-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Herb, It's Rosa da Assuncao. Last name not given. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For whatever reason, the tool bar on top for the CCA records is gone. I can only enlarge one level. I can't tell the name of the mother of the bride because it's too

[AZORES-Genealogy] Santissima Trindade Parish, Vila das Lajes

2014-12-10 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, My ancestors marriage in Conceicao, Ribeira Grande reads that Raimundo Machado son of Paulo Machado Leonardo, natural of the Parish of Santissima Trindade, Township of Lages, Terceira. I can only find this Parish in Pico island. Would anyone researching the Western islands be able to point

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2nd pair of eyes: Baptism from Rosto do Cão - Sao Roque on Sao Miguel island

2014-12-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, Line 4 Jose de Sousa Simoes Line 6 Felicianna (Feliciana) Rosa. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Line 4 Jose de Sousa Siproes? (haven’t seen this one before)* *Line 6 Felicianna Rosa* *Rick* *Richard Francis

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

2014-11-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rick, I think I can help make that decision without your wasting a lot of time digging/comparing. As mentioned on my email at the time I provided the links I had only peaked through the records and did not study them, however and with George's input I went back for another look. The answer as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents name in marriage record - Matriz da Estrela, Ribeira Grande, SM

2014-11-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Lee, Manoel Pachequo (Pacheco) son of Francisco Machado and Catarina Paiva Maria de Paiva daughter of Manoel de Paiva and Maria de Monte Marriage occurred January 30th, 1677 Margaret Vicente On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote: I found the marriage re it'd

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

2014-11-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
-B-1742-1767_item1/P167.html Margaret Vicente On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see them in Rodrigos and I do not have *Bretanha in Canto Index not even sure it exist.* On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What does Moradores Carita Matriz mean?

2014-11-19 Thread Margaret Vicente
Fernando, I think you may be reading moradores na dita Matriz which translates too living/residing in the said/aforementioned Matrix Town Margaret Vicente On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando, I'm not sure what you mean. You say you have

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Twin girls

2014-11-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Herb, They were born 5 min apart on the 4th day February 1862 The margin note: Victoria passed away in this Parish yesterday. I can't make out the exact date but the year was 1938. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net wrote

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with phrase on Felicianno de Mello's obito

2014-11-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
The Priest wrote verterano catropa de linha Translation: veteran of the front line troops. Margaret Vicente On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:25 PM, IslandRoutes islandrou...@gmail.com wrote: I have found my 3rd great grandfather's obito in Maia, Ribeira Grande, 1884. It is image #7, #17

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage record help

2014-11-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
Aaron, Unfortunately the Priest neglected to enter his parents names on the marriage record. With reference to 1724, it says that he was dis-obligated in the past lent of 1724. It means he had met his obligations and paid his dues. On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Aaron Pereira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting Family Finder Match Didn't Expect This One DNA Never Fails to Surprise!

2014-10-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
up being someone from Korea, people travel. I have friends who are Asian descendents from the islands named above. Hope this helps. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 6:24 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Family Finder match with a man with whose surname is Pham his

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting Family Finder Match Didn't Expect This One DNA Never Fails to Surprise!

2014-10-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Antonio, Thanks for the links. Enlightening affirmations of our gene pool. On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:06 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: I found a connection between Macau and Vietnam the Tanka that often married Portuguese men during the early Colonial history of Macau are also

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] side note for baptism

2014-10-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
Aaron, The side note is not related to Manuel's baptism. The priest is entering a record for a another child, Maria whom they may have neglected to record its initial registry and could not find it in the book. She's the daughter of Francisco Antonio and Eufrosina de Jesus. Best, Margaret

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help with one word - Pedro Miguel, Fayal, Surname: Luis

2014-08-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sam, Anna (Ana) Francisca. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:18 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Top Left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1806-1826/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1806-1826_item1/P88.html Need help with first name

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 1798, Luz on Graciosa

2014-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, See highlighted words: We've got he's the son of Maria Roza, and she's the daughter of Antonio da Cunha and his legitimate wife, already deacesed Maria de Jesus, living in this Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Luzin of Graciosa, residing in Faja do Campo of incognito Father. Got his

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difference between words Mariante, Maritimo

2014-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Barbara, There may be others in the group that may have a broader background in word etymology but here's my interpretation. Mariante and Maritimo are interchangeable words that can be given the same meaning at the times (era) they were being used to describe a profession but, the word mariante

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pimentel DNA

2014-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Pam, check this out :) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1752-1766/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1752-1766_item1/P159.html enjoy! Margaret Vicente On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Nancy who is your Pimentel's from

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Shipwreck

2014-08-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
have been all fishermen. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM, GS1138 gs1...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry, the previous e-mail was missing the attachment. The death record for my 6th great grandfather documents him and seven other men who on 20 October 1759, died in a shipwreck. I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

2014-08-21 Thread Margaret Vicente
Correia, also sui juris (single) being the executor. Margaret Vicente On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Fred Estrella festrella...@gmail.com wrote: I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the word

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria

2014-08-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rick, both records, Mother reads as Florinda Angelica Margaret On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I read the parents as Jose Silva and Florinda de Jesus. She is from NS Estrela.* *I believe the mothers name was actually

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria

2014-08-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
[mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:51 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Estrela, Casamentos 1839-1853 for Bernardino Jose de Andrade Escolstica Maria Rick, both records, Mother reads as Florinda Angelica

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores

2014-08-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Glad to be of some assistance, Bob. Stay well, Margaret On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: Margaret, Thanks for the additional information Bob On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:30:31 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: Adding to Sam's (somewhere in Indiana) :)

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Baptism 1689

2014-08-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, She was found abandoned in a field by Simao da Costa who because she seemed very week baptized by her. The Priest re-did it and she was given out to be raised by Maria Correia etc. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help with another marriage from Flamengos, Faial

2014-08-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
confirming Serafina Pereira. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Yes its April 4, 1728. yes Manuel Vieira defunto (deceased) and Serafina? Pereira. You are correct on Catharina's parents also. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Lee

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores

2014-08-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Adding to Sam's (somewhere in Indiana) :) Fazenda is a civil parish in the municipality of Lajes island of Flores. *Geralda (Giralda) de Jesus Coelho, without profression, (staying at home)native of this same Parish of which she is parishioner. * *Grandfather is Antonio Coelho Bacta.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name in Sao Sebastiao Record 1702

2014-08-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2014 10:39 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name in Sao Sebastiao Record 1702 Pam has it. Written as *dal meida*. It is written in its

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another Strange Name

2014-08-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
It's Ana Felizarda (Filizarda). On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Today must me weird name day. * *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P203.html

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is the first Name?

2014-08-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
It is Vanceslau (Vanceslao) On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *The first name of the groom is a new one to me. What is it? Thanks in advance.*

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is the first Name?

2014-08-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
for Wenceslas? Cheri On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: It is Vanceslau (Vanceslao) On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *The first name of the groom is a new one to me. What

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another Strange Name

2014-08-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
with.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:08 PM *To:* azores *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another Strange Name It's Ana Felizarda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with an Obios from Matriz da Horta, Faial

2014-08-11 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Lee, That gap would make me suspicious. Are you sure this is she? The Mother's name is different, Maria Vieira. The Parish is Santa Barbara and you wrote she was from S. Joao Batista which is a different freguesia. Note: she was the daughter of Joam d'Azevedo and Maria Vencenza(?)

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