Hi Steve
Thanks for your interest, you're unaware, but you've already helped
immensely with my assignment on conversion. The Cornell stuff was great.
Firstly I must correct you, I am not actually taking them through
certification. It has been through my conversations and assignment that
managemen
Thanks SS
Will begin to organise the preps and should be in time before budbreak.
Muchly appreciated.
L&L
Liz
on 24/7/03 8:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/24/03 4:53:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Any BD
> experience with these would be a
Thanks Tony and SS
Have been through all of Gliessman & Pritts' work, found Steve's links very
helpful as usual. Took on a conventional berry farm (community run for
mentally disabled) for certification in an Organics assignment, and now have
them interested in many aspects. Working not only wit
Title: Re: Strawberry plants
Hi storch
I'm also intersted to know what you use for mulches, and if you or anyone else on the list
has used living mulches for strawberries or raspberries. Also how long do you leave your
plants in for, and what rotation do you use with strawberries?
Thanks
L&
Thanks Markess
Although it's not what I witnessed I found the site very interesting.
L&L
Liz
on 14/7/03 10:15 PM, Turtle Bend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is this useful?
> http://spaceweather.com/
> info on sky phen's
>
> L*L
> Markess
> ___
> BDN
Hi all
Here's details of what's coming up in Orange.
L&L
Liz
UPCOMING ECOLOGICAL AGRICULTURE EVENTS AT
UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY
ORANGE
JULY 25 & 26, FRI & SAT
INTRODUCTION TO BIODYNAMIC FARMING
With TERRY FOREMAN
A TWO DAY WORKSHOP INTRODUCING BIODYNAMIC FARMING, MAKING A COMPOST HEAP AND
TOURIN
Eric, Lloyd,James et al.
Although I originated from your neck of the woods Eric, home is in
Australia. 3 hours east of Sydney, near Orange (wine country), a colder
climate than most of Oz at an elevation of around 900 mts. Witnessed the
arch on friday june 27, one the Irish would describe as a f
Hi all
Was wondering if any of you knows of, or has seen a white arch in the sky?
Very much like a rainbow with only white. It was not as large as the arches
witnessed in Calgary when the Chinooks blow in, but it was large enough that
many neighbours also witnessed it. It took place about 8 am o
Hi James, Lloyd, Roger and others
I know the energy you speak of in the snow country, just never felt it
through the Monaro. The positive ions could be the reason, or that almost
every time I've driven through, there has been very little if any
vegetation. As for the energy of the Snowy River,
Hi Eric
A grey, wet, cold day for solstice had me wonder if any would turn up for
the celebrations. A thick heavy fog rolled in around 4pm and no calls to
verify if celebrations were still happening. As darkness began to fall many
people, at least 50 arrived to light the fire and celebrate the
Hi all
Finally have heard word that Alex Podolinsky will be talking at the uni in
Orange on the first weekend of August. Unsure of the details but will post
these when confirmed. I'd be happy to put questions to him on behalf of
others. Keeping in mind what Hamish has written; I can't help but
Thanks Peter, I appreciate your experience and words of support. I've read
a few articles on the peppering work on brush tailed possums in NZ, and it
always intrigues me. Will be in touch for any words of wisdom you may be
willing to pass on. Thanks again
L&L
Liz
on 18/6/03 8:57 PM, Peter Michae
Hi Roger, James, Lloyd et al
You wizards always get me thinking. Firstly the energy of the Manaro
plains, do you think the energy is caused from what Lloyd said about
overgrazing? I've driven through that country several times and it is very
depleted, a draining energy and often barren, yet that
Title: Re: OZ product legals
Sorry Glen forgot to give the contact. apvma.gov.au/registration/registering.shtml
on 9/6/03 6:00 AM, Liz Davis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Glen
Did a quick search around and the best I can come up with is Australian Pest and Vet Medicine Australia (APVM
Title: Re: OZ product legals
Hi Glen
Did a quick search around and the best I can come up with is Australian Pest and Vet Medicine Australia (APVM). They do refer to standards, products and residues. Maybe from here you may find what you are looking for?
L&L
Liz
on 8/6/03 7:53 AM, Garuda
Title: Re: Introduction
Sarah, have you had any experience with these meditations?
L&L
Liz
on 30/5/03 11:22 PM, Sarah Cherry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever used Steiner's growth and decay meditations to qualify the impulse within a plant?
_
Welcome Arjen
So many interesting things you are involved in, will check out the emerson
site. Hoping my BD lecturer doesn't ask the same question you did, at least
not in my first semester of BD.
Thanks for the book tip.
L&L
Liz
on 30/5/03 5:29 AM, Arjen Huese at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hel
Thank you Peter
What & how you've explained this info, has helped me to understand much
more.
L&L
Liz
on 27/5/03 12:27 PM, Peter Michael Bacchus at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Liz Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is an area that has intrigued me since I started study. Majority of
the alternative farmers we met last year on tours switched due to health
reasons. Stories of passing out after using round up, in bed for days due
to close proximity of seeds and whatever pesticides were on them. In a way
t
Hi Eric & others
A group of farmers are travelling around Australia informing rural
communities on gmo, with the aid of some Canadian farmers. The word is
spreading, now to make the consumers aware.
We need fanatics Eric.
L&L
Liz
on 17/3/03 12:50 PM, Eric Myren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
Lloyd, Peter & Cheyl,
Thankyou all for the suggestions, I like all of them except for catching
another snake in Nov. I'll start experimenting and read lecture #3.
Will go over the Albury notes again, I knew I had seen it somewhere.
Thanks again and will let you know how it all goes.
L&L
Liz
Morning all,
With the rain has come the cooler temps, but still it is March and many
snakes are on the move for a mate. Have managed to obtain a copperhead
snake which my wonderful dog killed, before it headed into the laundry.
Have spent some time thinking about the right time to catch a snake,
Hi Allan
After growing up with over 50 TV stations at my finger tips in Canada, here
in Oz I have 5. I can safely say I get a more realistic picture of the
entire planet, especially from our SBS, then I have ever seen in North
America. Our isolation and location have us take in more of the globe,
on 20/2/03 11:49 PM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone fill us in on this past weekend's events?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Allan
>
>
Hi Allan & all
It was a great weekend, which was made even better through the connections
made on this link. Meeting Lloyd, Roger, Barbara, Tobias a
on 6/2/03 10:31 PM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, robin and I are driving down on the 15th after the Canberra Peace
> Rally, we're staying at the Albury Georgian Motor Inn in town. Looking
> forward to the workshop. Be a busy week, I've got a landcare conference
> in Braidwood 13/1
on 28/1/03 1:09 PM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> John Buckley wrote>
> .> No need to be divisive here. I can't believe that hitting the delete
> key takes "hours". > If you don't like it, skip/delete it. I, for one,
> want the option. I'm here to learn, not >
>> argue.
> Jus
on 22/1/03 9:57 AM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
> Yes, Liz, I will take the photos to Albury.
Thanks Roger
snip
> Without going far into what I said and didn't say ('burnt' was not in my
> message and is now not in my vocabulary at all),
Sorry Roger, burnt is my inadequate word fr
I've had the same thoughts as yours above myself a couple of times.
>
Cheers
> Lloyd Charles
With you 2 on this one. Far more interested in looking at preps for bush
regeneration.
Is the Lovegrass the first test of this kind. I would be very interested in
working and learning more abou
on 21/1/03 2:09 PM, manfred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Liz: 4"? ...at what relative distance?
> Next time you feel a sneeze coming on, be looking up into the sky,sneeze,
> and tell what you seemanfred
>
Manfred, it's a distance of about 25 ft, and whether it makes any difference
I'm about
Am visualizing orgone-like squiggles as best
> as I can recall SteveStorch's description of them some time back.
>
Thanks for bringing this up Lily, I've been wanting to ask sstorch about
these. For months I have been witnessing squiggles, only in the early
morning. They have not been visible
Hi all
Understanding whole-heartedly what the Americans face, I'm in agreeance with
Frank, James, Barbara and Jane. When reading the posts on this topic,
duality is what keeps springing up. This to me emphasis the times we are in
and how the 2 sides are needing to be brought together. Unsure if
on 18/1/03 9:05 PM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> we need your prayers tonight very badly
>
Been with ya all day Roger, glad to see you're ok. The smoke and dust bad
here, but nothing like you are facing. The winds have died slightly, hoping
that's the case there.
L&L
Liz
on 20/12/02 12:29 PM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Have heard that AP will be giving a lecture some time next year at the
>> Orange campus, uni of Sydney. Will post details when I get them.
>>
>> L&L
>> Liz
>
> Thanks, Liz. Let's get a tape, too, ok? -Allan
>
>
No worries All
on 20/12/02 8:59 AM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:12 AM
> Subject: It's a Big Country: but where's AP?
>
>
>> Friends -
>>
>> I'm still trying
on 10/12/02 7:43 AM, Fred & Rose Lieberman at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I'm looking forward to reading some of the real biodynamic books that
> include the spiritual approach. Thanks for the heads-up, Allan.
>
> Also, has anyone read the Findhorn material? How does that fit into
> Steiner's wo
Dear Allan
I shuddered when reading about small pox immunisation being brought back in.
Having been part of the mandatory immunisation in Canada in the 60's I still
remember vividly how ill I became after the small pox jab. My mother vowed
never to immunise any of her children after I spent 9 mon
on 30/11/02 6:23 AM, Merla Barberie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just need to start from square one and learn how to
> douse. Those of us who are neophytes need to start at square one to
> understand
> what Gil and Hugh and many others know by experience.
>
> There are so many things to learn
Hi Lloyd,
Please tell me more, where, when & how much.
Thanks
L&L
Liz
on 28/11/02 1:14 PM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aussie farmers have just been given the opportunity to attend Hugh Lovels
> Atmospheric workshop in February 2003, thanks to the efforts of Cheryl
> Kemp, Hamis
Allan,
I would like to say thankyou for all your time, energy and effort you put in
to make this link a reality. You do make a difference.
Sending healing energy to you and your foot.
Thank you Allan
L&L
Liz
Hi Teresa
Try the uni's web site at www.oac.usyd.edu.au/
if you can't find what you are looking for there, let me know and I'll
personally chase up your queries. The course leader is Kerry Cochrane.
L&L
Liz
on 22/11/02 10:34 PM, Teresa Seed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Me too, if you'd be so
on 20/11/02 8:32 PM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Liz Davis wrote:
>
>> The course is Ecological Agriculture, Orange Campus of University of Sydney.
>> (3 hrs west of Sydney) A very small and intimate campus where lecturers know
>> your name.
>>
&g
on 20/11/02 4:25 AM, Merla Barberie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Liz,
>
> Your course program sounds wonderful. What is name of it and where are you
> taking it? What all have you done?
>
> Best,
>
> Merla
>
Hi Merla.
The course is Ecological Agriculture, Orange Campus of University of Sydn
Hi all
Have finally lifted my head from finals and presentations. How I went is
still unsure, the soils paper was 3 hours and no easy task, especially the
nutrition programs. I'd like to say thanks to all of you, this link has
been a large part of my learning, and a wonderful connection through
Hi all,
Was wondering if any of you may take the time and make comments towards my
interpretation of soil tests. (Testing myself for the exam)
Wanting to see if I'm getting the hang and where I'm not making links.
There is no physical assessment of the soil, just the data to work from.
(I've alre
Hi Gil & Garp/NH
Noticed this past winter that the uni of Sydney runs sheep in their vineyard
through the winter. Also Garp, there was something earlier this year on
this link, that referred to buckwheat as a cover crop in vineyards. Used
because it establishes and flowers quickly.
Gil, when you
Hi Manfred:
I am also interested in receiving a copy of this research, for 2 reasons. I
grew up in the area studied and also for my study with eco ag. If postage
required please let me know. Thanks
L&L
Liz
on 29/10/02 11:36 AM, manfred palmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Nelson:
> Las
one of the few areas not declared drought stricken.
How's it at your place?
L&L
Liz
on 19/10/02 10:22 AM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Liz Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sa
Hi Gil, Lloyd and Tony
It sounds too intersting to miss, will do my best to get there in Nov.
Will also get Alanna's book for my summer reading.
Your work sounds very interesting Gil, no doubt I'll have some questions for
you after I attend the stoneage farming course.
We'll have to compare learn
, sounds interesting.
Feeding 620 tonight so I'm off to the kitchen now.
L&L
Liz
on 19/10/02 4:47 AM, Rambler Flowers LTD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Liz Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Hi all
Was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for some info
needed for an exam. It's a soil exam and I'm s tired of costing out
their NPK, understandable they want their land managers to know how to
calculate amounts, but their fertilisers are not something I want to wo
ED]> being Evergreen pleaded for her to come there. We
miss her.
L*L Markess
From: Liz Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 06:17:03 +1000 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:
Re: grasses
I've just glanced over a book called "Agro
I've just glanced over a book called "Agroecosystem Sustainability"
Developing Practical Srategies, by Stephen R Gliessman, there is one study
by a Martha E. Rosemeyer from Wisconsin, 'Improving Agroecosystem
Sustainability Using Organic (Plant-Based) Mulch'. The eddress offered
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 7/10/02 8:13 PM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:43 PM
> Subject: Rivers of Time
>
>
>>
>> Evening in September, spring in an Australian temperate z
with just
> contact me off line.
> I would like to get a sample of the soil to test and see what I can come up
> with. As you probably know I come from Running Stream which is not very far
> from you.
>
> Regards
> James
>
> Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis
> Radion
Selenium is a trace mineral (hence the organic) that has synergistic action
with Vit E. It is/was used to treat angina. Also used to remove heavy
metals such as amalgam from the body, remember taking it during the removal
of my amalgam fillings. If my memory serves me correct I think the Chines
D] wrote:
>
> - Original Message ----- From: Liz Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:23 AM Subject: soil
> test
>
> Hi Liz You've got me stumped this time!! If its wet and the soil has not had
> much (or any) cultivat
Hi Lloyd, Gil & David;
Pleased to hear from you guys. You described the soil almost to a 'T' Lloyd
it is a heavy waterlogged soil, that seems to never dry. The aggregates
have not slaked or dispersed. (is that the Mg causing that and or lack of
clay?)
It's an area of about 6 acres, so they are
d incorporate a thin
> layer in the top soil. This method has been showed to produce excellent
> vegetable crops. It provides a good substrate and source of C/N for soil
> microorganisms.
>
> Regard
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
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Greetings All,
A friend of mine (not on the net) is wanting to start BD on her 10 acres of
native trees and raspberries. The soil in the tree paddock is like nothing
the Perry lab has seen. Although I've learnt about soils, I do not have the
BD knowledge yet to help her with this difficult soil.
More wasp stories - around the mud house I live in the wasps are aplenty.
Within the crevices they lay their larvae and stuff the hole with insects
and then seal with mud. In one round sprinkler that wouldn't work last
summer, I broke the seal of mud and counted 74 spiders packed in the 3"
circle
Hi Gil, James et al,
The work you are doing sounds very interesting Gil. I've been asked by my
local landcare group to follow up the lack of success of direct drilling
native tree seeds into paddocks. Realising there could be a # of reasons
for failure, almost feel as though I do not know where
on 2/9/02 10:00 AM, Louise Berry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am at Little hartley west of the Blue Mountains in New South Wales,
> Australia.. an area of approximately 40 acres
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday,
Robin, Lloyd, Roger & Gil
Have thoroughly enjoyed all of your comments and knowledge on this topic.
Most of which have lead to further questions for myself.
Gil I would be interested to know how you are going about your research in
this area.
My thinking is not using sawmill waste, but more foc
Hey old Rebel and Roger, Knew you wouldn't be able to resist the native veg.
topic Lloyd.
Unsure if it is because I come from Canada, or just the beauty and
uniqueness of Australian flora, but I find it very difficult to plant
anything but native flora. Just can't beat the yellow wattle, the red
Hugh & LLoyd;
Thank you both for your time & explanations of CEC, you've helped me to get
a better picture of the way it works. I'll work on it a bit more and see if
I can't pose some questions to you both to see if I do have the basics ofthe
processes involved.
Thanks again
L&L
Liz
Hi Robin
I am interested in reading more about this. I could be way off track here,
but can't help but wonder if it may be a solution, or part of, to a large
problem we face in Australia. native tree regeneration is having a
difficult time, as the trees will not establish in some areas due to t
on 30/8/02 3:14 AM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It finally started to rain last night. The last rain was a few hours and did
>> not even cut the dust, that was a month ago. This will be the first real
>> meaningful rain of the summer of 2002. I go a nice bc spray in late last
on 29/8/02 8:40 AM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Trem, Chris wrote:
>
>> Will try Charles Wilber's method of growing tomatoes next year, my cages
>> won't be more than 8 feet tall though.
>>
> I came across an idea in an Australian magazine (Grass Roots, I think)
> for growing tomato
We also experienced our first rain yesterday and last night. Heralding in
the Spring. The drought seems to have made it a mild winter, with my
dreaded willows only loosing their leaves for 5 weeks.
I'm trying to get my head around CEC, if you add Ca2+, Mg2+, Na+, K+, you
get the CEC. The remai
Firstly Roger, thank you for the story and also for your words on war. I
have been fortunate in life not to have lived through such horrors, and like
you and many others would not wish such a thing on anyone.
As Gil mentioned, Clivus Multrum, I have a friend who copied the plans and
made her own
Tony/Christine/David C:
Thank you all for info and contacts for ÉM. Slowly making my way through
the hundreds of emails that have gathered since my trip.
In reply to Allan E & black frost:
I live in Orange NSW and have been involved in growing acres of garlic for a
few years. Positioned 1000
No worries Lloyd.
University of Sydney, Orange Campus,
Course Leader: Kerry Cochrane 63605579 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Liz
Greetings all;
I've just returned from a trip to southern Ontario, and whilst there I
toured conventional and natural farms. Learnt a great deal from every farm
I went to, but was most inspired by Effective Micro-organism, natural
farming. Having only just started to learn about this method, I
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on 27/5/02 2:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subscribe BDNow
Hi Allan:
Take it I'm meant to resubscribe, seeing I haven't had any BDNow come through since the 31 - 5. Hopefully this will be all it takes to get me back on the list.
Cheers
Liz Davis
on 16/4/02 6:15 AM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, it's that time of year again.
>
> Warm rain last night, record highs. I thought it was a good day to go
> out and look for morels (like I have the time, you know) Then it
> dawned on me: a fungi s.b. blooming under the full m
on 17/3/02 11:45 PM, Wayne and Sharon McEachern at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Gil Robertson wrote:
>
>>
>> Would I be understating the bloody obvious, if I said that in the interest
>> of the environment in which we live, we have an obligation to get the
>> concepts of RS beyond the belie
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on 6/3/02 12:19 PM, Moen Creek at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sustainablity in the humor section.
L&L
Markess
Subject: Irony of the Rat Race
>A boat docked in a tiny Mexican village. An American tourist
>complimented the Mexican fisherman on the quality of hi
Hi all:
For years in Oz I have been a storyteller to young children, and have come
across many Koori (Aboriginals of Australia) Stories. To put it in
different words but with the same meaning as Gil's message, to know and
understand this culture is to know that the stories are not ours. As much
hi Cheryl;
Have tried the last few days to get in touch with you at BDFGAA, could you
please forward me the eddress.
Thanks
Liz
on 16/1/02 12:27 PM, Hugh Lovel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Thanks Hugh for you detailed explanation. I hav'nt seen a post from you that
>> wasn't well worth reading and filing. The work Elaine is doing and what we
>> are doing is on two different levels. In working with Steiners indications
>
when I am able to share my knowledge of BD, but
for now I would like to say thank you to all who do.
Liz Davis
on 9/1/02 4:12 PM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dear Cheryl:
>>
>> Having a few major snakes taking up my garden right now, I would really
>> appreciate any articles on peppering. It's an area I am very intrigued with
>> after working with Ho
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Dear Cheryl:
Having a few major snakes taking up my garden right now, I would really
appreciate any articles on peppering. It's an area I am very intrigued with
after working with Homoeopathics.
Thanks
Liz Davis
on 14/12/01 7:30 AM, Frank Teuton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Right place, Liz, we are just in a hatatonic daze right now...
>
> Frank---has been known to wear different hats on occasion
>
>>> I'm with you Tony, all depends on the day. I am new to this, and joined
> for
>> Biodynamic info, a
on 14/12/01 5:40 AM, Rambler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
> I am happy to see that folks realize that you cannot achieve results in
>> biodynamics with a stupid baseball cap. SStorch
>
> Dear Steve You have just solved the riddle. The NZ BDA has been selling
> baseball style hats for
on 13/12/01 12:50 PM, Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Someone unnamed wrote :
> "is there ANY way to prevent purely personal
> correspondence from cluttering up this discussion
> list? thanks for any effort to check the addressee
> before pressing the "send" button.
> I ha
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