Re: Early Neutering Linked to Osteosarcoma

2003-03-01 Thread Marion Brown
***particularly as I understand osteosarcoma is not a big problem in our breed overall *** According to Dr Padgett in a study of 848 tumours the percentage of osteosarcomas found was 1.7%. Within the Rottweiler breed I would surmise from personal experience that osteo is significant as it caused

Re: To Berner or not to Berner??

2003-03-01 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:10:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess I'm seeking advice or reassurance that my home and lifestyle will accomidate a Berner. Hi Kenny, I think Liz answered many of your specific questions very well so I'll just offer a bit of the

Gratitude

2003-03-01 Thread Lisa D Allen
The breeder of my first two Berners and I have always agreed on everything but not so with me and the breeders of my third and 4th Berners; I realize that it is human nature not to agree with everyone, even a parent, sibling, or spouse 100% of the time. I let all my dogs' breeders know via

Do they Shed?

2003-03-01 Thread Lisa D Allen
Yes, they shed, big-time; prepare to find fur in places you never even considered. The shedding does not bother me at all but I realize it is an issue for some people. I notice you did not ask about health issues in the breed. Perhaps you are already well-educated in this regard? Lisa Allen

Esta- Umbilical hernias

2003-03-01 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Esta, Umbilical hernias are very common in Bernese and can sometimes be caused during birth by excessive tugging on the cord. Your breeder was right to think that the hernia might self correct, most of them do. What happens is the little hole behind the hernia oftentimes heals over but there

RE: Early Neutering Linked to Osteosarcoma

2003-03-01 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Vicky, There are many things to consider in a study such as this. Before we alarm everybody about the horrors of osteosarcoma in neutered males lets consider the fact that this cancer is prevalent in Rotties and that one has to take into consideration the pedigrees of all the dogs in the study.

RE: Looking for Trainer in Aurora, IL Area

2003-03-01 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Terri, Here's a few suggestions for you. Walk her when she is hungry, before breakfast and before supper. When you get home you take the time to settle yourself and let her have a short rest, time for a cup of tea and then feed her and let her rest afterwards. Loose leash, don't ever get into

RE: Food

2003-03-01 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Karen, If Thor is being fed a premium maintenance food your lab/terrier puppy will do fine on it. No need to give extra vitamins or minerals. It is quite normal for puppies to want to eat from the older dog's dish and he would probably allow that for a while, they usually tell the puppy to get

RE: Collars

2003-03-01 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi, A friend used to breed field trial beagles and when these dogs are running the bunny in trial they wear ID collars. These look like the old style ID bracelets with an engraved plate and the flat link chain are fastened tightly around the beagles neck to avoid getting tangled in the brush. They

Madchen is ill

2003-03-01 Thread CartingDogs
Hi everyone My Madchen turns seven today! Her birthday, however, comes with a recent diagnosis of Malignant Histiocytosis. On Friday, February 14, Madchen began fussing about the food she would eat. On Sunday, February 16, I took her to the ER vets after she vomited a bit of bile mixed with

Re: To Berner or not to Berner??

2003-03-01 Thread Eileen Morgan
-- - Original Message - From: Kenneth L Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shedding/ Get a new vacum. Maybe two. is my home large enough/ Size is less of an issue than clutter (think of that tail--it is a coffee table sweeper). And a bored Berner is a destructive dog; I am not walking my crew

Hello,darling

2003-03-01 Thread cosi
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Digest 4102

2003-03-01 Thread mzebley
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RE: Early Neutering Linked to Osteosarcoma

2003-03-01 Thread Molly Bass
can I throw in an exception to the rule - I have an 11 year old INTACT male who is alive and well, his dad was intact when he was hit by a car at 11y3m.. and his mom was still intact at 12.5 when she died... I know - this could be an exception but something to consider. I know two

Re: To Berner or not to Berner??

2003-03-01 Thread Karen McFarlane
Dear Kenny, I am a very novice Berner parent so my note will be not nearly as informative as others. The only advice that I can give you is to listen intently to the experts on this List. They are indeed a wealth of knowledge, love and support for Berner admirers and adoptees. Without them I would

Nuschi's puppies

2003-03-01 Thread Molly Bass
I am pleased to announce after a week of digging to China under the deck, porch, and both sets of stairs, Nuschi has finally whelped her beautiful litter of 4 - hammer, Santa, blue bear, and duck. Not only has she whelped this colorful litter that all make a different noise, she has done so on

thank you

2003-03-01 Thread James and Karen Gross
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RE: Early Neutering Linked to Osteosarcoma

2003-03-01 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Molly, (And I know you already know this - I'm just giving the numbers we have for everyone who hasn't seen them yet!) With anything that is expressed in terms of an overall average, there will be many above and many below that average. So taking the statistics on males from the health survey,

Re: Nuschi's puppies

2003-03-01 Thread jane heggen
Too funny, Molly! At first read, my mind immediately went to how the heck did she come up with those names? Still not getting it I was amazed to read she had whelped on your bed and you were still sleeping in it! Good grief, I am a little slow today vbg That's what happens when I run out of

Swissy Puppy

2003-03-01 Thread Coral and David Denis
I have passed the message on regarding a Swiss puppy to some folks in the :Swissy World. Your friends have made a good choice. We are so pleased up here in the North West. We opened up our draft test in April to include Miscellaneous Breeds (per the CKC) and we have a Swissy entered. I know he

RE: Long Lived Lines

2003-03-01 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Bobbie, It's wonderful to hear that you'll be doing some Search and Rescue work, we'll all want to hear more about that as the training continues! Excellent! You make the statement that the Lacey x Jackson lines has produced some of the most long lived Bernese. I'd sure love to know more about

Where Did You Get Your Dog

2003-03-01 Thread Peg McQueary
Bobbie, thank you for your wonderful insight into what we (all) should do and say to those that gave us our start in the berner world. Bobbie gave my family and I the most wonderful gifts of all. She gave us Branson Zorro. And, it comes with a story of heart-break, love, friendship and

Happy Birthday Fargo

2003-03-01 Thread Shadowbrook
Happy 6th Birthday Fargo.! Fargo moved in with us 4 years ago, rehomed by his breeder. We are so happy she chose us to adopt him. He is an incredible boy and has taught my husband to LOVE dogs. Today we will pick up Fargo's new van and then off to get burgers some fries to celebrate. Thanks

Re: Where Did You Get Your Dog

2003-03-01 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Thank you Peggy, I'm sure that Bobbie, Kim, Candy, April will all agree with me in that we are very proud to have our girl belong to your family where we KNOW she is getting the best of everything, and all the love her little heart can hold! We are very grateful to you, in return, and value your

where did you get your dog?

2003-03-01 Thread Sue German
We got our very first berner from Cathy Burlile, who trusted as newbies to the breed, to purchase a show quality male from her. That was 10 years ago this August. Not quite one year later, she trusted us to take Codi's sister Shelby, who had canine hip dysplasia after she had a TPO, triple

I'm SOLD!!!!!!!!!

2003-03-01 Thread Kenneth L Babcock
Thanks to All for the Great responses!! I think I can deal with the hair (fur) issues? Hopefully the consciensous breeder will help avoid serious health issues? I noticed the poop eating issues in the mailing (YUK-YUK-YUK-YUK) gotta break that habit!!! Cost is an issue as well and hopefully my

shedding/home big enough?

2003-03-01 Thread lydia myhree
Shedding/is my home large enough/temperment/barking/and will the breed fitinto my lifestyle?Kenny -- of COURSE you'd love to have a BMD!!! Who in their right mindwouldn't. There. Now that that's out of the way...1.) Shedding - yes! Be prepared. We brush our dogs almost every day, butI'll still see

Re: To Berner or not to Berner??

2003-03-01 Thread Radha Iyengar
Dear Kenny, I also live in a townhouse and backyard isn't even fenced. We have put up a dog run but that is barely sufficient. My dog, Smokey, is now 11 months (closing in on a year in just a few weeks) and he is pretty well adjusted to the situation. Something important to consider is that you

Longlease Updates

2003-03-01 Thread jean cheesman
Many thanks to you all for your kind messages, has been a very sad day! Thankfully, the antibiotics from the vet eased her breathing and Hops went quietly into her last sleep. She was very weak and we suspect it was actually a cancer as she had been losing weight rapidly the last few days. But she

Re: Where did you get your dog?

2003-03-01 Thread Karyn Beyer
I have to admit that I find this thread potentially fraught with problems. While I am happy for all of you that were fortunate enough to get dogs from breeders that are conscientious and involved, not all of us have been that fortunate. In fact, some of us have had very different experiences with

RE: where did you get your dog?

2003-03-01 Thread Radha Iyengar
I wanted to add a little to this topic. Smokey is my first BMD. His breeder, Rui Rosa, was a very, very kind man who not only trusted me with this wonderful puppy but also trusted me given that I am only 22 and was just starting out. I assured him that I had the money, space, and love for a

Re: To Berner or not to Berner??

2003-03-01 Thread Martha Hoverson
On the barking: Molly is delightfully social, and she loves nothing more than when the neighbors two enormous dogs (a tall blond husky and a burly long-haired shepherd mix of 110 pounds or so) come out to play. The Husky snarls and the shepherd starts running along the fence barking his head

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2003-03-01 Thread KelseyDawg
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Re: Where did you get your dog?

2003-03-01 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
I would like to thank Jackie Smith for trusting us with CH. Onyx Oh'so Special V. Mt. Tops - Oh'so 1989 - 2002 and Raime Campbell for trusting us with our girl - CH. Blue Mt. Andi Dasso's Swissmis - Andi 1991 - 2002 These were two very different, but equally spectacular, wonderful, loving

Re: To Berner or not to Berner?? Or Bernese and Goldens

2003-03-01 Thread Mary Shaver
Anne wrote: Hi...I've heard the comparison between Bernese and Goldens, too. (As in, If you love Rottweilers, get a Swissy; if you love Goldens, get a Berner.)Many current Bernese families seem to have started with Goldens... I try to take notes when I talk to PPO's about berners, and I believe

Re: To Berner or not to Berner?

2003-03-01 Thread Dawn Kjeldsen Freeland
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Yoda, Bobbie, Fargo, Oberon(s)

2003-03-01 Thread Lisa D Allen
I think that recently a Berner owner wrote to this list about her dog, Oberon and that she felt she could or would not recover from his passing. I just want to state that I can empathize with you; Yoda(1992-2002) passed away from cancer a year ago and I still ache more deeply than most can

Help!

2003-03-01 Thread Melissa Chan
Loki is a 7 month spayed female. We also have a 2 1/2 yo neutered male,Griffin. Here's our situation. Loki was seemingly potty trained as of about a month ago. We had stopped crating her altogether and she and Griffin seemed to be doing well together during the day. All of a sudden she started

Kenny's choice

2003-03-01 Thread Lisa D Allen
Kenny and others, If price is a profound consideration in your decision to adopt a Berner, then perhaps more thought on the matter is in order. It is known, in this breed, that the purchase price can be a mere drop in the bucket compared to the price of tending to an unwell Berner. By all

upcoming article in HMBMDC newsletter

2003-03-01 Thread Sweattees
Weed Killer-Lymphoma Connection Found Patt Wiegand, Newsletter Editor, HMBMD Club, Inc. According to Sadhbh ONeill of Genetic Concern, Oncologists Hardell and Erikson of Sweden have found a clear link between Round Up, the most common and biggest selling herbicide, and lymphoma. The study was

Talk About a Small Berner World

2003-03-01 Thread Karen Alexander
Yes it is a small Berner world. I was at our local Pensacola, FL spring dog show to see the Berners. One couple said they were from CO. We started talking. I asked if they knew this person and that person. The woman said sure I do. It turns out that I was talking to the couple who own the

AND THE WINNER IS.........(Lobby Fund raffle for black and white sketch)

2003-03-01 Thread TERRY ZIMMERMAN
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Hello

2003-03-01 Thread Bernesemoutain2
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This list

2003-03-01 Thread Marjie
I love this list. Here's where I can root for Stevie, learn about the health risks hiding behind pedigrees, find out about all the work that people are doing to further the well being of our dogs. I can hear about the triumphs and tribulations of training puppies, managing teenage boys with

Where did you get your dog?

2003-03-01 Thread James and Karen Gross
I would like to thank Edith Williams for trusting us with Cascade Echo's Braveheart (Thor). Thor is by far the greatest 'kid' that my husband and I have. Thank you again Edith for such a wonderful and precious gift. James and Karen Gross Thor (100% Berner) Hailey (lab/terrier mix) Ryan (tabby)

Uschi goes missing

2003-03-01 Thread Marion Brown
Yesterday evening we experienced one of the horrors that we all dread. Uschi (aka Houdini), the youngest girl, went missing at dinner time, but as she often chases after hares and things we didn't worry as she always comes home again, especially when she smells the dinner cooking! However, we