***particularly as I understand osteosarcoma is not a big problem in our
breed overall ***
According to Dr Padgett in a study of 848 tumours the percentage of
osteosarcomas found was 1.7%.
Within the Rottweiler breed I would surmise from personal experience that
osteo is significant as it caused
In a message dated 2/28/2003 10:10:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess I'm seeking advice or reassurance that my home and lifestyle will
accomidate a Berner.
Hi Kenny,
I think Liz answered many of your specific questions very well so I'll just
offer a bit of the
The breeder of my first two Berners and I have always agreed on everything
but not so with me and the breeders of my third and 4th Berners; I realize
that it is human nature not to agree with everyone, even a parent, sibling,
or spouse 100% of the time. I let all my dogs' breeders know via
Yes, they shed, big-time; prepare to find fur in places you never even
considered. The shedding does not bother me at all but I realize it is an
issue for some people.
I notice you did not ask about health issues in the breed. Perhaps you are
already well-educated in this regard?
Lisa Allen
Hi Esta,
Umbilical hernias are very common in Bernese and can sometimes be caused
during birth by excessive tugging on the cord. Your breeder was right to
think that the hernia might self correct, most of them do. What happens
is the little hole behind the hernia oftentimes heals over but there
Hi Vicky,
There are many things to consider in a study such as this. Before we alarm
everybody about the horrors of osteosarcoma in neutered males lets consider
the fact that this cancer is prevalent in Rotties and that one has to take
into consideration the pedigrees of all the dogs in the study.
Hi Terri,
Here's a few suggestions for you.
Walk her when she is hungry, before breakfast and before supper. When you
get home you take the time to settle yourself and let her have a short
rest, time for a cup of tea and then feed her and let her rest afterwards.
Loose leash, don't ever get into
Hi Karen,
If Thor is being fed a premium maintenance food your lab/terrier puppy will
do fine on it. No need to give extra vitamins or minerals. It is quite
normal for puppies to want to eat from the older dog's dish and he would
probably allow that for a while, they usually tell the puppy to get
Hi,
A friend used to breed field trial beagles and when these dogs are running
the bunny in trial they wear ID collars. These look like the old style ID
bracelets with an engraved plate and the flat link chain are fastened
tightly around the beagles neck to avoid getting tangled in the brush. They
Hi everyone
My Madchen turns seven today! Her birthday, however, comes with a recent
diagnosis of Malignant Histiocytosis.
On Friday, February 14, Madchen began fussing about the food she would eat.
On Sunday, February 16, I took her to the ER vets after she vomited a bit of
bile mixed with
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Shedding/
Get a new vacum. Maybe two.
is my home large enough/
Size is less of an issue than clutter (think of that tail--it is a coffee
table sweeper). And a bored Berner is a destructive dog; I am not walking my
crew
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can I throw in an exception to the rule - I have an 11 year old INTACT male
who is alive and well, his dad was intact when he was hit by a car at
11y3m.. and his mom was still intact at 12.5 when she died... I
know - this could be an exception but something to consider. I know two
Dear Kenny,
I am a very novice Berner parent so my note will be not nearly as
informative as others. The only advice that I can give you is to listen
intently to the experts on this List. They are indeed a wealth of knowledge,
love and support for Berner admirers and adoptees. Without them I would
I am pleased to announce after a week of digging to China under the deck,
porch, and both sets of stairs, Nuschi has finally whelped her beautiful
litter of 4 - hammer, Santa, blue bear, and duck. Not only has she whelped
this colorful litter that all make a different noise, she has done so on
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Molly,
(And I know you already know this - I'm just giving the numbers we have
for everyone who hasn't seen them yet!) With anything that is expressed
in terms of an overall average, there will be many above and many below
that average. So taking the statistics on males from the health survey,
Too funny, Molly! At first read, my mind immediately went to how the heck
did she come up with those names? Still not getting it I was amazed to
read she had whelped on your bed and you were still sleeping in it!
Good grief, I am a little slow today vbg That's what happens when I run
out of
I have passed the message on regarding a Swiss puppy to some folks in the
:Swissy World. Your friends have made a good choice. We are so pleased
up here in the North West. We opened up our draft test in April to include
Miscellaneous Breeds (per the CKC) and we have a Swissy entered. I know he
Bobbie,
It's wonderful to hear that you'll be doing some Search and Rescue work,
we'll all want to hear more about that as the training continues!
Excellent!
You make the statement that the Lacey x Jackson lines has produced some
of the most long lived Bernese. I'd sure love to know more about
Bobbie, thank you for your wonderful insight into
what we (all) should do and say to those that gave us our start in the
berner world.
Bobbie gave my family and I the most wonderful gifts of all. She gave us
Branson Zorro. And, it comes with a story of heart-break, love, friendship
and
Happy 6th Birthday Fargo.!
Fargo moved in with us 4 years ago, rehomed by his breeder. We are so
happy she chose us to adopt him. He is an incredible boy and has taught
my husband to LOVE dogs.
Today we will pick up Fargo's new van and then off to get burgers some
fries to celebrate.
Thanks
Thank you Peggy,
I'm sure that Bobbie, Kim, Candy, April will all agree with me in that we
are very proud to have our girl belong to your family where we KNOW she is
getting the best of everything, and all the love her little heart can hold!
We are very grateful to you, in return, and value your
We got our very first berner from Cathy Burlile, who trusted as newbies to
the breed, to purchase a show quality male from her. That was 10 years ago
this August. Not quite one year later, she trusted us to take Codi's sister
Shelby, who had canine hip dysplasia after she had a TPO, triple
Thanks to All for the Great responses!!
I think I can deal with the hair (fur) issues? Hopefully the consciensous
breeder will help avoid serious health issues?
I noticed the poop eating issues in the mailing (YUK-YUK-YUK-YUK) gotta
break that habit!!!
Cost is an issue as well and hopefully my
Shedding/is my home large
enough/temperment/barking/and will the breed fitinto
my lifestyle?Kenny -- of COURSE you'd love to have a
BMD!!! Who in their right mindwouldn't. There. Now
that that's out of the way...1.) Shedding - yes! Be
prepared. We brush our dogs almost every day, butI'll
still see
Dear Kenny,
I also live in a townhouse and backyard isn't even
fenced. We have put up a dog run but that is barely
sufficient. My dog, Smokey, is now 11 months (closing
in on a year in just a few weeks) and he is pretty
well adjusted to the situation. Something important
to consider is that you
Many thanks to you all for your kind messages, has been a very sad day!
Thankfully, the antibiotics from the vet eased her breathing and Hops went
quietly into her last sleep. She was very weak and we suspect it was
actually a cancer as she had been losing weight rapidly the last few days.
But she
I have to admit that I find this thread potentially fraught with problems.
While I am happy for all of you that were fortunate enough to get dogs from
breeders that are conscientious and involved, not all of us have been that
fortunate. In fact, some of us have had very different experiences with
I wanted to add a little to this topic.
Smokey is my first BMD. His breeder, Rui Rosa, was a
very, very kind man who not only trusted me with this
wonderful puppy but also trusted me given that I am
only 22 and was just starting out. I assured him that
I had the money, space, and love for a
On the barking:
Molly is delightfully social, and she loves nothing more than when the
neighbors two enormous dogs (a tall blond husky and a burly long-haired
shepherd mix of 110 pounds or so) come out to play. The Husky snarls and
the shepherd starts running along the fence barking his head
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I would like to thank Jackie Smith for trusting us with CH. Onyx Oh'so
Special V. Mt. Tops - Oh'so 1989 - 2002
and Raime Campbell for trusting us with our girl - CH. Blue Mt. Andi
Dasso's Swissmis - Andi 1991 - 2002
These were two very different, but equally spectacular, wonderful, loving
Anne wrote:
Hi...I've heard the comparison between Bernese and Goldens, too. (As
in, If you love Rottweilers, get a Swissy; if you love Goldens, get a
Berner.)Many current Bernese families seem to have started with
Goldens...
I try to take notes when I talk to PPO's about berners, and I believe
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I think that recently a Berner owner wrote to this list about her dog,
Oberon and that she felt she could or would not recover from his
passing. I just want to state that I can empathize with you;
Yoda(1992-2002) passed away from cancer a year ago and I still ache more
deeply than most can
Loki is a 7 month spayed female. We also have a 2 1/2 yo neutered
male,Griffin.
Here's our situation. Loki was seemingly potty trained as of about a
month ago. We had stopped crating her altogether and she and Griffin
seemed to be doing well together during the day. All of a sudden she
started
Kenny and others,
If price is a profound consideration in your decision to adopt a Berner,
then perhaps more thought on the matter is in order. It is known, in this
breed, that the purchase price can be a mere drop in the bucket compared
to the price of tending to an unwell Berner. By all
Weed Killer-Lymphoma Connection Found
Patt Wiegand, Newsletter Editor, HMBMD Club, Inc.
According to Sadhbh ONeill of Genetic Concern,
Oncologists Hardell and Erikson of Sweden have found
a clear link between Round Up, the most common and
biggest selling herbicide, and lymphoma. The study
was
Yes it is a small Berner world. I was at our local Pensacola, FL spring dog
show to see the Berners. One couple said they were from CO. We started
talking. I asked if they knew this person and that person. The woman said
sure I do. It turns out that I was talking to the couple who own the
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I love this list. Here's where I can root for Stevie, learn
about the health risks hiding behind pedigrees, find out about
all the work that people are doing to further the well being of
our dogs. I can hear about the triumphs and tribulations of
training puppies, managing teenage boys with
I would like to thank Edith Williams for trusting us with Cascade Echo's
Braveheart (Thor).
Thor is by far the greatest 'kid' that my husband and I have.
Thank you again Edith for such a wonderful and precious gift.
James and Karen Gross
Thor (100% Berner)
Hailey (lab/terrier mix)
Ryan (tabby)
Yesterday evening we experienced one of the horrors that we all dread.
Uschi (aka Houdini), the youngest girl, went missing at dinner time, but as
she often chases after hares and things we didn't worry as she always comes
home again, especially when she smells the dinner cooking! However, we
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