Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-26 Thread Phil Meyer
The abort scan feature _must_ be fixed. You cannot require users to delete the cache folder or kill a scanner process to recover from a botched scan. You must be able to get back to a place where you can at least launch a full scan from scratch. For what it's worth, I thought that Abort scan was

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-26 Thread erland
Philip Meyer;643119 Wrote: The abort scan feature _must_ be fixed. You cannot require users to delete the cache folder or kill a scanner process to recover from a botched scan. You must be able to get back to a place where you can at least launch a full scan from scratch. For what it's

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-26 Thread erland
Philip Meyer;643119 Wrote: I wonder how many 3rd party plugins still require updates? There doesn't appear to be a nice way of telling which ones are incompatible. It's not that easy to handle this because: 1. We don't have any well defined API, so it's hard to say when something is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-26 Thread MeSue
MeSue;643088 Wrote: It pretended to finish the scan, but something is still not right because it is only showing the 1200 songs from my last scan. I give up... going to try 7.5.6. For the record, I installed 7.5.6 last night, and had a successful full scan that took 3:30. The scheduled new

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
This was the initial scan that started automatically after installing 7.6. After 9 hours of scanning I stopped it before bed. It had been stuck on that one playlist for several hours. I deleted a bunch of playlists, including some large ones that might have had missing files in them. Then I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread slate
Hmm sounds like a missing database index or something... anything in the logfiles? Based on my own experience I would have thought that it would take 40-45 min for a complete rescan. Are you game on trying a clear and full rescan?! -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) - Beresford Caiman+

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
It stalled again so I aborted, did cleanup, and started over with a clear and rescan. Seems to be progressing normally this time--so far. -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.5 | iPod Touch w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Herger
It stalled again so I aborted, did cleanup, and started over with a clear and rescan. Seems to be progressing normally this time--so far. I guess it's too late to ask, but did you enable all the scan.* debugging? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
mherger;643009 Wrote: I guess it's too late to ask, but did you enable all the scan.* debugging? No, didn't think of it, but I will if it fails again. It's about half-way through the second step (scanning new files). -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
You should be able to just abort the scan again, set new logging settings and start over. Keep in mind that in 7.6 (with SQLite) the server and library are completely usable during a full clear rescan, unlike in past. -- JJZolx

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
Now almost 4 hours later it appears to be finished, but it is not showing the scanning complete message. The MusicIP import finished about a half an hour ago and the status screen is just sitting there. Scanner.exe is still showing activity on the server. Waiting, waiting, waiting... I'm really

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
MeSue;643046 Wrote: How? When I browse artists, albums, etc. they are all blank. When doing a full clear rescan, 7.6 now builds a whole new library database on the side, while keeping the current one in place. After the scan is finished the new one is swapped in. Try disabling the MusicIP

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
Keep in mind that in 7.6 (with SQLite) the server and library are completely usable during a full clear rescan, unlike in past. What do you mean by that? I never had a problem with pre-7.6 (MySQL) - what problems were there in the past? Do you mean that browsing was slow when scanning, or

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
How? When I browse artists, albums, etc. they are all blank. Yes, you now have to wait for the first scan to fully finish before any music can be played. I don't know what would happen if you tried to browse music folder whilst a scan is in progress - does this create content in the current DB

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
Now almost 4 hours later it appears to be finished, but it is not showing the scanning complete message. The MusicIP import finished about a half an hour ago and the status screen is just sitting there. Scanner.exe is still showing activity on the server. Waiting, waiting, waiting... This often

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
If that's not it, disable all plugins, run a full scan, then gradually add the plugins back in until you figure out which is trashing things. Could it be that CustomScan or Lazy Search is hooking into a new scanner event to process before it reports scan complete (in the past these would kick in

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
Philip Meyer;643049 Wrote: Yes, you now have to wait for the first scan to fully finish before any music can be played. True, but only during the initial scan. After you have a populated library it's usable while a full scan is in progress. -- JJZolx

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread erland
Philip Meyer;643051 Wrote: If that's not it, disable all plugins, run a full scan, then gradually add the plugins back in until you figure out which is trashing things. Could it be that CustomScan or Lazy Search is hooking into a new scanner event to process before it reports scan

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
I only have the default plug-ins at the moment. InstalledPlugins and DownloadedPlugins folders are both empty. I was waiting to finish a scan before adding plugins back. But, goodness, I sure didn't expect it to be a multi-day ordeal! Scanner.exe is is still in the task list, there is no crash

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
MeSue;643058 Wrote: I only have the default plug-ins at the moment. Disable the included plugins as well. MusicIP has been problematic in 7.6. You might want to point the server at some subset of your music library until you get this sorted out. Better yet, I recommend creating a small test

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
Also... There have been a lot of problems with 'Abort scan'. It may or may not be working correctly. After aborting make sure there's no scanner.exe process running. If there is, kill it. If you're having problems running the initial scan, then you may as well also shut down the server and

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread rbz5416
Sounds like you have a problem unrelated to 7.6. I have an EX490 server with 16,750 tracks, 7.5 would complete a full scan in approx. 20 mins 7.6 does it in 15 mins. My EX490 is only a 2.2GHz Celeron so not hugely more powerful than your EX470. As Slate suggested, I would have expected you to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
Disable the included plugins as well. MusicIP has been problematic in 7.6. I haven't had any problems with MusicIP. It's about the only thing I haven't had problems with! I have MusicIP set to retrieve mixable status only. ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
Okay, I found a few things and managed to get a successful scan on a sub-set of my library. 1) There were remnants of a Firefly Media Server service that kept trying to start on my server, several times per minute. It had thousands of entries in the event viewer. I haven't used this in ages and

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread slate
Seems like the clouds have started to clear... About 3) What build version are you running? Andy recently did a correction that might be related... Revision 32822 - Directory Listing Modified Sat Jul 23 02:46:01 2011 UTC (2 days, 20 hours ago) by agrundman TTP 20923, fix abort scan when doing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread MeSue
It pretended to finish the scan, but something is still not right because it is only showing the 1200 songs from my last scan. I give up... going to try 7.5.6. -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.5 | iPod Touch w/ iPeng

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
What a nightmare. The abort scan feature _must_ be fixed. You cannot require users to delete the cache folder or kill a scanner process to recover from a botched scan. You must be able to get back to a place where you can at least launch a full scan from scratch. I'm slowly losing hope that 7.6

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread bluegaspode
JJZolx;643090 Wrote: I'm slowly losing hope that 7.6 will ever be ready for public consumption. I don't know what it all means for LMS's chances, but it isn't good. Obviously someone at Logitech decided its ready for a the masses now. Lets see what happens. -- bluegaspode Did you

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-25 Thread JJZolx
bluegaspode;643104 Wrote: Obviously someone at Logitech decided its ready for a the masses now. Lets see what happens. I wonder if they actually think this. It's very difficult to believe. I'm more inclined to think that they've gotten to the point where throwing beta software out into public

[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-24 Thread MeSue
OMG, it is going to take almost as long to scan playlists as it took to scan the song files! Code: Discovering files (27688 of 27688) Complete 00:22:03 Scanning new files (25383 of 25383) Complete 02:40:54 Discovering playlists (49 of 49) Complete

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-24 Thread JJZolx
Scanning new files isn't exactly a barn burner either. - What are the specs of your server? - Are the files on a local hard drive or located elsewhere on a network share? - Are you using shortcuts/symlinks? - How large are these playlists? -- JJZolx

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanning playlists is soooo slow

2011-07-24 Thread erland
What type of rescan are you doing ? Is it a full rescan or just a rescan for changed files or changed playlists ? How large is your playlists ? (number of tracks) -- erland Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info)) (Developer of 'many plugins/applets'