Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-25 Thread Matt Wilson
> > I'm at home now, will check monday, but as far as I remember it says > > "last, failsafe, default, gnome". > I am certainly late, but just coming back from holidays :-) > > Why don't you use default session ? It will make gdm run your ~/.xsession and > nothing else. > I haven't run gdm since

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-25 Thread Bertrand Duret
Le Samedi 13 Juillet 2002 10:31, Marco Fioretti a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 10:04:54 at 10:04:54AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > What sessions are available for selection in the menus of the GDM screen, > > or are there any? > > I'm at home now, will check monday, but as far as I remembe

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was Re: blackbox nls updates needed)

2002-07-21 Thread John Kennison
On Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:52 PM Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> next year I would like to hand over some little things to someone >else. I'm looking for: >* a new Dutch NLS maintainer >* a new Blackbox Manpage maintainer! >please email me personally after around Aug. 1st 2002, because I

Re: Blackbox on GNOME PC and FrameMaker

2002-07-15 Thread Marco Fioretti
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:16:13 +0200 > Although I don't use it anymore, I did need to use FrameMaker > at my former job. The symptom that you describe was duplicated because > Frame on Solaris could not support 16-bit color (in my case). > At higher (or lower) color depth it was ok.

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-14 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 02:10:44 at 02:10:44AM +0200, Gerrit Hoetzel wrote: > > > > What happens if you try to kill X with CTL+ALT+BKSP > > or similar methods ? > > Marco seems to be using gdm which (by default) restarts the X server. > > I dont't see a way of killing gdm (which runs as root). >

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Gerrit Hoetzel
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 03:54:04PM +0200 Marco Fioretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 > and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be > changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them >

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Gerrit Hoetzel
On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 06:08:43PM -0400 Scott Furt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Keep in mind that I don't need GNOME at all, I just got it with the PC, > > and, again, requests to change the "default" install, i.e. to mess with > > gdm or such, are going to be ignored, for the more or les

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 18:08:43 at 06:08:43PM -0400, Scott Furt wrote: > > What happens if you try to kill X with CTL+ALT+BKSP > or similar methods ? > Ach, I didn't think about it at all... :-( I'll try it monday, it would really solve it for good! Ciao, Marco Fioretti

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Scott Furt
Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, > > here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 > and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be > changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them > here. Also, I have no root password. > > The problem: the PC

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread paul
Marco Fioretti declaimed: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 14:14:12 at 02:14:12PM -0700, paul wrote: > > > Here's what I do on the RedHat/Gnome system at school: > > - Log into to Failsafe Xterm mode. This gives me an xterm with no window > > frame, but if I move the mouse over it, I can enter commands

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Jansens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 13 July 2002 4:06 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I didn't know about openbox. In the office I have stock RH 7.2, which > > doesn't have gnome 2 has it? I'll try it at home, though. > > openbox is a fork of blackbox 0.62.1. For the re

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread D. Olson
On Saturday 13 July 2002 05:06 am, you wrote: > So basically if you want a specific feature not in blackbox and going over > to fluxbox scares you then openbox may be then solution until blackbox > acquires your feature. Just out of curiousity, why would Fluxbox scare anyone? -- D. Olson The Ma

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > I didn't know about openbox. In the office I have stock RH 7.2, which > doesn't have gnome 2 has it? I'll try it at home, though. > openbox is a fork of blackbox 0.62.1. They basically did a lot of the same work as the 0.65 series (STL, cleanups) as well as new stuff -- netwm, wheel mouse,

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 10:04:54 at 10:04:54AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > What sessions are available for selection in the menus of the GDM screen, > or are there any? I'm at home now, will check monday, but as far as I remember it says "last, failsafe, default, gnome". I tried yesterday t

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 14:14:12 at 02:14:12PM -0700, paul wrote: > Here's what I do on the RedHat/Gnome system at school: > - Log into to Failsafe Xterm mode. This gives me an xterm with no window > frame, but if I move the mouse over it, I can enter commands. > - Run an executable script nam

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-13 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 23:08:34 at 11:08:34PM +, David Barr wrote: > hi, > > if you are using gnome2 you could use openbox ( > http://openbox.sunsite.dk/ ) which is net_wm /gnome complient, and > basically blackbox(+), plus it's pretty spiffy. if you are using > gnome1.x i don't know. > >

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread paul
Marco Fioretti declaimed: > Hello, > > here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 > and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be > changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them > here. Also, I have no root password. > > The problem: the

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, Jul12,02 16:10, Marco Fioretti wrote: > > > Well... you COULD try to press ALT+F(2-6) to see if they've configured GDM > > to run on all the terminals (Since this tends to be quite tricky, there's > > high probability that they haven't), in which circumstance you should just > > be able t

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Marco Fioretti
> Well... you COULD try to press ALT+F(2-6) to see if they've configured GDM > to run on all the terminals (Since this tends to be quite tricky, there's > high probability that they haven't), in which circumstance you should just > be able to login via text console, then run startx as per nor

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-12 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, Jul12,02 15:54, Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, > > here at work I've been finally given a PC with Linux Red Hat 7.2 > and blackbox-0.61.1-2. Distro and/or blackbox version cannot be > changed because of company policies too shameful to discuss them > here. Also, I have no root password. >

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-10 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:14:18 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wilbert, since I am not on the sylpheed list please be sure this makes > it to them. I've forwarded the message to the Sylpheed list. -- Jamin W. Collins

RE: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
>> >> but the window will also be moved down and right (exactly the borderwidths >> of title bar and left border). When calling sylpheed repeatedly, its >> window moves down all along. >> >> I think it's a bug in the sylpheed code, but maybe related to blackbox. >> > Sylpheed is sending us a

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-10 Thread paul
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry declaimed: > On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: > > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > > Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and > > the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar > > documentation) already in the works. Is there one

OT - ML Responses (was Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour)

2002-07-09 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:34:26 -0400 "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ,[ excerpt from my ~/.muttrc ] > | > | set followup_to > | set honor_followup_to=yes > | subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > ` > > So, when replying all I need to do is hit "L". Right, but that configuration wi

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Jan Schaumann
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Semi-PS: how difficult would it be to get the list software to add to > change the X-Loop: header to the submission address or add another > commonly used list header with the submission address? ,[ excerpt from my ~/.muttrc ] | | set followu

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Scott Furt
Es Bee Ex wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:42:12 -0400 > Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Below find the complete Blackbox-HOWTO. It contains all the information >>anybody might need to know to use BB: >>1. How do I have other applications start up when I start blackbox? >> >>Enter the

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sam Halliday
> nah, today is my 25th b'day -- all fingers point my way! happy birthday, and hopefully all the pints will also be spilling your way later! Sam -- Great minds run in great circles.

RE: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Hi all, > > using blackbox-0.65-beta1 and sylpheed-claws 0.7.8 a little strange thing > happens: > > - open sylpheed. > - open sylpheed again (this wil raise the previously started sylpheed) > > but the window will also be moved down and right (exactly

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sam Halliday
> Semi-PS: how difficult would it be to get the list software to add to > change the X-Loop: header to the submission address or add another > commonly used list header with the submission address? i'm with you, i always have to "reply all" to get a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my "To:" field Sam -- Thr

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:10:31 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sounds like a gravity handling bug. Anyone up for some finger pointing? Only if the fingers can be pointed at me. =) Semi-PS: how difficult would it be to get the list software to add to change the X-Lo

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sam Halliday
> using blackbox-0.65-beta1 and sylpheed-claws 0.7.8 a little strange > thing happens: i use sylpheed-claws 0.78 and no problems at all, but admittedly it is somewhat different to plain 'ol sylpheed Sam -- Adults die young.

Re: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hoi Dave, Op Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:25:10 -0600 schreef Dave Serls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:00:32 +0200 > Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > using blackbox-0.65-beta1 and sylpheed-claws 0.7.8 a little strange > > thing happens: > > > > - open sy

RE: blackbox + sylpheed behaviour

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Hi all, > > using blackbox-0.65-beta1 and sylpheed-claws 0.7.8 a little strange thing > happens: > > - open sylpheed. > - open sylpheed again (this wil raise the previously started sylpheed) > > but the window will also be moved down and right (exactly

RE: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and > the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar > documentation) already in the works. Is there one already > available somewhere? Does anyo

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Es Bee Ex
On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:37:29 -0500 Ben Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Es Bee Ex wrote: > >2. Then how do I ? > >RTFM > Um.. isn't this meant to *be* the manual? :P RTOFM -- Joseph Applegate (SB-X) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Well, I was thinking of starting out by putting what's already out there > together into one doc. Namely, the information from the man page and the > information from that FAQ (I think it was a Jeremy or someone like that. > He'll pipe up at some point, I'm hoping.), and then adding info on h

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Rachel Collins
On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 07:51:40 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: > > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > > Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and > > the bb homepage and didn't see one (or s

RE: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Jul-2002 Rachel Collins wrote: > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and > the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar > documentation) already in the works. Is there one already > available somewhere? Does anyo

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Ben Jansens
Es Bee Ex wrote: >On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:42:12 -0400 >Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Below find the complete Blackbox-HOWTO. It contains all the information >>anybody might need to know to use BB: >>1. How do I have other applications start up when I start blackbox? >> >>Enter t

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Sam Halliday
> 2. Then how do I ? > RTFM 3. Where do i find the manual? RTFM

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Es Bee Ex
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:42:12 -0400 Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Below find the complete Blackbox-HOWTO. It contains all the information > anybody might need to know to use BB: > 1. How do I have other applications start up when I start blackbox? > > Enter them into you ~/.xsession (

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Chris Grossmann
You forgot one: --- snip --- 2. How do I make blackbox display my icons on the desktop instead of swallowing them into the menu? You don't. --- snip --- Jan Schaumann wrote: > Rachel Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > > Docum

Re: Blackbox-HOWTO

2002-07-09 Thread Jan Schaumann
Rachel Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking of starting a Blackbox-HOWTO for The Linux > Documentation Project. I looked around on sourceforge and > the bb homepage and didn't see one (or similar > documentation) already in the works. Is there one already > available somewhere? Does

Re: blackbox 0.65.0beta1 released, let the testing begin

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> >> Also, if you speak a language other than English, please look at the NLS >> support for your language. > Ok, and if one has suggestions/changes to a translation > already there? > mail this list, possibly also cc the person listed in AUTHORS for that language.

Re: blackbox 0.65.0beta1 released, let the testing begin

2002-06-25 Thread Martin Egholm Nielsen
Hi there, > Yep, the beta series has begun. Great! Let's get this baby in the air -- looking forward to the 0.70 series with real sticky'ness :-) > Also, if you speak a language other than English, please look at the NLS > support for your language. Ok, and if one has suggestions/changes to a t

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 05:25:49PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > What is *guaranteed* to crash things here is lopster. > > > > lopster? Lopster is an openNap client that one of my housemates is addicted to. You can't leave it running for long periods of time on a workspace other t

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > What is *guaranteed* to crash things here is lopster. > lopster?

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 04:56:22PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > Just a gut reaction, but I would guess that it's probably Gaim. I use > Mozilla (Debian testing's 0.9.9) on a fairly regular basis (as I suspect a > few other here do also). Gaim seems to be the wild card. Again, just a > gut r

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jun-2002 Ryan Harris wrote: > On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 18:07, Øyvind Stegard wrote: > >> Yeah, makes sense, gaim opens windows on many different workspaces (if >> someone sends you a message, the window pops up in the workspace you are >> currently in), and generally use many windows, on man

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Ryan Harris
On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 18:07, Øyvind Stegard wrote: > Yeah, makes sense, gaim opens windows on many different workspaces (if > someone sends you a message, the window pops up in the workspace you are > currently in), and generally use many windows, on many different > workspaces. Also, GAIM see

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Jamin W. Collins wrote: >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:34:45 +0200 >"Øyvind Stegard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>OK, it is confirmed that TIME is NOT an issue here, like you said. It >> >> >(snip) > > >>some more factors: Mozilla and Gaim were the only two apps running now. >>One of the

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:34:45 +0200 "Øyvind Stegard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, it is confirmed that TIME is NOT an issue here, like you said. It (snip) > some more factors: Mozilla and Gaim were the only two apps running now. > One of them is triggering something, when switching desktops.

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >On 10-Jun-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Just posting a "little" issue I have with BlackBox, just to see if >>anyone else is having similar problems. >> >>It concerns version 0.65alpha8: >>After about 30-35 hours of operation (samme X session), BlackBox

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous us

2002-06-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jun-2002 Øyvind Stegard wrote: > Hi, > > Just posting a "little" issue I have with BlackBox, just to see if > anyone else is having similar problems. > > It concerns version 0.65alpha8: > After about 30-35 hours of operation (samme X session), BlackBox > suddenly dies for no obvious reas

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous usage

2002-06-10 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hoi Derek, Op Mon, 10 Jun 2002 15:09:19 -0400 schreef Derek Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Jun10,02 20:58, Øyvind Stegard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > If someone has any debug tips or anything, I will certainly try those, > > > > if it helps. > > > Recommendation: > > Don't let yo

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous usage

2002-06-10 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Derek Cunningham wrote: >On Mon, Jun10,02 20:58, Øyvind Stegard wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >> >> > > > >>If someone has any debug tips or anything, I will certainly try those, >>if it helps. >> >> > > >Recommendation: > >Don't let your blackbox session kill your work. I have this in my .x

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous usage

2002-06-10 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:58:50 +0200 "Øyvind Stegard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It concerns version 0.65alpha8: > After about 30-35 hours of operation (samme X session), BlackBox > suddenly dies for no obvious reason, and thus X exits => I lose unsaved > work etc etc etc. Hmmm. I leave my

Re: BlackBox 0.65alpha8 death after 30-35 hours of continuous usage

2002-06-10 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Mon, Jun10,02 20:58, Øyvind Stegard wrote: > Hi, > > If someone has any debug tips or anything, I will certainly try those, > if it helps. Recommendation: Don't let your blackbox session kill your work. I have this in my .xinitrc: blackbox & xterm This way, if blackbox exit

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-06-08 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Just letting you know I'm still following the issue. I had to move to a new box and I will see how and if this pops up again, in which case I'll produce some strace output. I just hope this bug will manifest itself again, the old box is not gonna be around much more (not running Linux, anyway). C

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jun-2002 xOr wrote: > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. > seems not to be the case :| It does it perfecetly consistantly on my > machine if I follow the right steps. > > This is, of course, wit

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-06 Thread xOr
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 12:00:08AM -0500, xOr wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:50:56PM -0500, xOr wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:28:10PM -0500, xOr wrote: > > > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > > > > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near i

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-06 Thread Matt Wilson
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 16:50, xOr wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:28:10PM -0500, xOr wrote: > > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. > > seems not to be the case :| It does it perfecetly consistan

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-06 Thread xOr
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:50:56PM -0500, xOr wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:28:10PM -0500, xOr wrote: > > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. > > seems not to be the case :| It does it perfece

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-06 Thread Matt Wilson
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 16:28, xOr wrote: > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. > seems not to be the case :| It does it perfecetly consistantly on my > machine if I follow the right steps. > > This is,

Re: blackbox blocks in select()

2002-06-06 Thread xOr
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:28:10PM -0500, xOr wrote: > Found a way to make blackbox block in its select() call. > > Theres a comment above it say this is possible but near impossible.. > seems not to be the case :| It does it perfecetly consistantly on my > machine if I follow the right steps. >

Re: Blackbox alpha8

2002-06-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-Jun-2002 Martin Ehmsen wrote: > Hi. > > Would someone correct this problem: > alpha8 identifies itself as alpha7. It took me 15min to track the > problem down, to the blackbox binary file: >#./blackbox-0.65.0alpha8/src/blackbox --help > Blackbox 0.65.0alpha7 : (c) 2001 - 2002 Sean 'Shaleh'

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-06-01 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 31 May 2002 23:02:16 -0400 "Adam Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dunno if it's any help, but on my Windows box (at work! I wouldn't dream > of running it at home!) Mozilla does what I think might be the same > thing. Sometimes all the boxes simply don't let me > type anything in, an

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-31 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
This happens to me on FreeBSD with XiGraphics X servers. What is really weird is that if I shade then unshade the window it will work again. It happens under windowmaker, blackbox and twm so I don't think it is a blackbox. --BY --- Adam Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dunno if it's any help

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-31 Thread Kolbe Kegel
i have that trouble on my linux machine, too... has something to do with focus, i never even considered that it might be a wm bug. basically what i do to fix it is give focus to another application and then back to mozilla a few times, and just click like an idiot around the mozilla interface.

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-31 Thread Adam Hooper
Dunno if it's any help, but on my Windows box (at work! I wouldn't dream of running it at home!) Mozilla does what I think might be the same thing. Sometimes all the boxes simply don't let me type anything in, and the address bar won't let me type stuff in. However, I still get the context menu

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-31 Thread Rachel Collins
On Fri, 31 May 2002 07:46:08 -0500 "Art Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me see if I can get the Debian mozilla along with its > dependencies and see how that runs here. Thanks for > looking into this. A quick warning on that: I have Debian Mozilla rc3, and mine isn't stable, either. It's

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-31 Thread Art Haas
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:06:14PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 31-May-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone else seen this? I'm running on linux, > >> with glibc-2.2.5 and compiling with gcc-3.1.1 > >> (again from CVS). > > > > I am not seeing this with rc2, apt is r

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> >> Has anyone else seen this? I'm running on linux, >> with glibc-2.2.5 and compiling with gcc-3.1.1 >> (again from CVS). > > I am not seeing this with rc2, apt is retrieving rc3 as I type this mail. Ok, have rc3 now. I type in about a dozen urls an

Re: blackbox and mozilla

2002-05-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Has anyone else seen this? I'm running on linux, > with glibc-2.2.5 and compiling with gcc-3.1.1 > (again from CVS). I am not seeing this with rc2, apt is retrieving rc3 as I type this mail. Bah, again with the mozilla bugs (-: It seems all the Blackbox bugs are mozilla issues.

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-27 Thread xOr
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:11:04AM +0200, Ciprian Popovici wrote: > Quoting Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have been running this code off and on since Saturday morning and it > > is still behaving. I need more help tracking this down. > > If you have any suggestions I would be g

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-27 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Quoting Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have been running this code off and on since Saturday morning and it > is still behaving. I need more help tracking this down. If you have any suggestions I would be glad to try them. Maybe a way to cause a core dump? Ciprian Popovici

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-27 Thread ciprian
Quoting "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I believe Shaleh asked this a while ago, but why are you killing and > restarting BB? No particular reason. I did it, so I thought it would be worth mentioning. Ciprian Popovici

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-May-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: > On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 07:41, Ciprian Popovici wrote: >> I've posted bug 560114 on SF this week. Here's what it's about: > > I get exactly the same thing normally (ie not vnc) - after a while BB is > maxing CPU usage. > > Matt. I have been running this code of

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-26 Thread Matt Wilson
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 07:41, Ciprian Popovici wrote: > I've posted bug 560114 on SF this week. Here's what it's about: I get exactly the same thing normally (ie not vnc) - after a while BB is maxing CPU usage. Matt.

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-26 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Sun, 26 May 2002 16:36:19 -0500 "xOr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 04:04:15PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > I believe Shaleh asked this a while ago, but why are you killing and > > restarting BB? > > It still should break like that tho :) I assume you mean "shoul

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-26 Thread xOr
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 04:04:15PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:09 +0300 > "Ciprian Popovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Idea: could it have something to do with the fact that > > while I am in the vncclient I launch a terminal and do > > a "killall blackbox

Re: BlackBox eats 99% CPU after runing a while under VNC

2002-05-26 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:09 +0300 "Ciprian Popovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Idea: could it have something to do with the fact that > while I am in the vncclient I launch a terminal and do > a "killall blackbox && blackbox &" ? I believe Shaleh asked this a while ago, but why are you kil

Re: blackbox 0.65.a7 hangs

2002-05-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-May-2002 Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > Blackbox 0.65.a7 hangs and returns to the console when I use kppp: when the > program connects and auto minimizes, blackbox exits (kppp still running). > Otherwise a great window manager. Can anyone point out a solution or a > substitution for kppp?

Re: blackbox 0.65.a7 hangs

2002-05-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-May-2002 Adriano Varoli Piazza wrote: > Blackbox 0.65.a7 hangs and returns to the console when I use kppp: when the > program connects and auto minimizes, blackbox exits (kppp still running). > Otherwise a great window manager. Can anyone point out a solution or a > substitution for kppp?

Re: Blackbox @ SF, good or bad?

2002-04-09 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Wow, I hadn't heard all that. Too Bad. I had an interesting experience with VA last year. I had gotten a bid for a 32 Node P4 Cluster. The bid sat on my desk for all of 30 days during the discussions of which bid to take. We decided to go with VA, partially because of SourceForge. When I called

Re: Blackbox @ SF, good or bad?

2002-04-08 Thread mackstann
--- "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Recently, the project owners of another > piece of software I use > (Dillo) decided to remove itself from SF due to ... on a side note, anyone not familiar with dillo should definitely check it out. its not yet mature enough for daily surfi

Re: Blackbox @ SF, good or bad?

2002-04-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Apr-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: > Off and on, I'd heard rumors of undesirable policy changes happening at > SourceForge (believe there was a short lived discussion on it here a while > back). Recently, the project owners of another piece of software I use > (Dillo) decided to remove itself

Re: blackbox clock clipping

2002-04-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> >> Maybe a better solution would be specify a padding value. > > I can't see any way to determine a padding value that would always work, > given that the user can mess with the time format. It might be enough to > always suffix his time format with a space, I suppose. > I can see a user (l

Re: blackbox clock clipping

2002-04-07 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:15:43PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > Question... why can't it be resized when the timer fires? It does that > > once a minute anyway. > > > > I believe that would look odd. For the clock to grow it would have to enlarge > the toolbar so for a few hours

Re: blackbox clock clipping

2002-04-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Question... why can't it be resized when the timer fires? It does that > once a minute anyway. > I believe that would look odd. For the clock to grow it would have to enlarge the toolbar so for a few hours every day you have a 480 pixel wide toolbar and for a few hours you have a 485 pixe

Re: blackbox clock clipping

2002-04-07 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:02:01AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > se we still have a proportional font problem then, right? Well, we have the original problem we discussed last night. Since it calculates the size at reconfigure() time, if it grows later, then obviously it isn't going to fit

Re: Blackbox Session Management?

2002-04-06 Thread Paul Mackinney
Derek Cunningham declaimed: > No, this is not a feature request! :) > > I was checking out xtoolwait (as per a previous post to the bb mailing > list), which will load programs one after another, allowing each to load > completely before loading the next (thus putting docapps into the slit in > t

Re: blackbox-0.62.2 ?

2002-03-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Mar-2002 Alexander Volovics wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if we are going to see a blackbox-0.62.2 in the not > too distant future (containing all the recent patches mentioned > on this list). > > Or is all energy going into restructuring the internals? > (resulting in blackbox-0.63

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Mar-2002 Paul Tremblay wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:23:41AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >> >> gdb /path/to/blackbox /path/to/core >> >> you will then get a prompt. Type 'bt'. Save the output. > > I just looked at the man pages for gdb. It states (if I am not > mistaken)

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:23:41AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > gdb /path/to/blackbox /path/to/core > > you will then get a prompt. Type 'bt'. Save the output. I just looked at the man pages for gdb. It states (if I am not mistaken) that it is customary to use gdb with a specific ap

Re: blackbox library

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Mar-2002 Jason Willis wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I thought I heard a short while back that a library (like a toolkit for > creating a blackbox-like gui) was in the works. Is this is case? If so, > how far down the road is this library going to be released.I was just > wond

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > I'm not sure how to do gdb. (Probably I just type in the line as > it is written!) However, I think I'll try downloading the newest > version of blackbox first. > gdb /path/to/blackbox /path/to/core you will then get a prompt. Type 'bt'. Save the output.

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:34:25AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > this happens later. If blackbox actually loads and you get windows then the > style not existing is no big deal. If you would do 'ulimit -c unlimited' > BEFORE starting X, this will allow core files to be written. Then y

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Mar-2002 Paul Tremblay wrote: > I am experiencing frequent crashes on blackbox. > > I am using nedit to execute scripts. This somehow causes the > window manager to crash. > > I get this error message: > > Failed to open Catalogue, using default message > BS screen::Parsemenufile:[stylesd

Re: blackbox-0.62.1-custom_titlebar-fab.patch

2002-03-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Sat, Mar02,02 20:37, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 03-Mar-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: > > Ok, here's another one that shaleh says is never gonna make it into > > blackbox... > > > > actually, I am on the fence on this one. It may make it in .. yes vote here. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMA

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