Re: Xorg7 sub sections

2006-05-19 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS CITP
Bruce Dubbs wrote: TheOldFellow wrote: No, it's a lot of applications that together provide a windowing system. It certainly isn't ONE application, since you can miss lots of it out and still have functionality. I disagree. It is a lot of *programs* and *libraries* that together compose one

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS CITP
Archaic wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:15:15PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: >> Is that wise? As it stands LFS is out of date. Old gcc, old glibc, old >> kernel headers. As soon as trunk moves to a newer toolchain everyone >> will start using that. Why waste effort releasing a book that's alre

Re: slrn S-Lang2 fixes - patch or development snapshot?

2006-04-05 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS CITP
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 4/4/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 16:58 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: >> >>> Assuming the patch works as advertised, how should the change be >>> implemented? If the patch is deemed too large, we can always use the >>> development sn

Re: Supports Total Healthy Lifestyles

2006-04-03 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS CITP
Leila Downing wrote: > Diet Pill Breakthrough!!! > > What if you could actually shed 10, 15 or even 25 pounds > quickly and safely in less then 30 days? Actually, cutting your head off works quite as well in practice - you can do it in under a second with a professionally built French ex-governme

Re: [BLFS Trac] #1847: There is no UTF-8 aware console newsreader in the book

2006-03-21 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> In a fit of 'I can't stand another moment of thunderbird !' a few days >> ago I built both slrn-cvs (slang-2) and tin. I have to say how good >> thunderbird and pan are. If I had to run a system

Re: [BLFS Trac] #1847: There is no UTF-8 aware console newsreader in the book

2006-03-19 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > There is a proposal to replace slrn with tin in the book. In a fit of 'I can't stand another moment of thunderbird !' a few days ago I built both slrn-cvs (slang-2) and tin. I have to say how good thunderbird and pan are. If I had to run a system without X, then I might jus

Re: K3b Installation

2006-03-15 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 03/15/06 11:09 CST: > >> There appear to be at least three kinds of so called KDE applications: >> >> 1) Those that use QT, but don't depend on KDE at all. >> 2) Those that use KDE libs, but

Re: GPhoto2

2006-03-04 Thread Richard A Downing
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: > >> On 3/3/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Richard A Downing wrote these words on 03/03/06 11:49 CST: >>>> >>>> What is suggested? >>> >>> I woul

Re: `backticks` or $(command) syntax

2006-03-01 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about perhaps replacing the backticks (`) in the > configure commands of the GNOME packages to $(command) syntax, but > it occurred to me that $(command) might be a bashism and other shells > (zsh, csh, etc.) might not understand them. > > Does a

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-28 Thread Richard A Downing
The first complete version of these instructions can be found on the wiki at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/InstallQcad. As suggested by Alexander Patrakov, I have linked it via: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/BlfsNotes I decided that it could (just) be construed as an Ind

Re: New BLFS Editor

2006-02-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I would like to announce that Dan Nicholson has been appointed as the > newest BLFS Editor. Please help me in welcoming him to the project. > > -- Bruce Oh dear, another lamb to the slaughter... Dan - Be afraid, be very afraid. (but Good Luck). R. -- http://linuxfroms

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Yes. I've been wanting to do the whole book, but I haven't made time > for it. I want links in the book to the wiki and internal links within > the wiki. > I was very pleased how well the wiki formatting lines up with Manuel's style for the current book too. Sufficiently d

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/InstallQcad > > Thanks. A few notes: > > 1) A package installed in /opt is not allowed to have files outside /opt > and /etc/opt > > 2) It would be nice t

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Richard A Downing wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Richard A Downing wrote: >>> I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making >>> projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format >>> drawings. >>> &

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: >> I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making >> projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format >> drawings. >> >> http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html >

Re: QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 2/25/06, Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making >> projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format >> drawings. >> >>

QCAD 2D Drawing Package.

2006-02-25 Thread Richard A Downing
I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format drawings. http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html If there is interest I'll write up (as a hint or patch) the somewhat complicated process by which it can be b

Re: A cautionary tale

2006-02-19 Thread Richard A Downing
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Hi folks, > > No doubt you'll all be aware of the flamewar that recently hit the lists > regarding trac and bugzilla. Whilst disagreements are expected on this > list, personal attacks are not appreciated by anyone involved. > > As Bruce and I cannot condone such action,

Re: Does anybody use text mail/news clients?

2006-02-12 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was going to report two issues in the current BLFS, but when expanding > OTOH, I have used nail on occasion, but certainly not regularly. It is > most useful in sending messages from scripts, so that package should stay. > > Oth

nss instructions and Domainname nitpick.

2006-02-04 Thread Richard A Downing
It's not so much a valid domain name that needs to be inserted as a domain name such that host.domainname will result in a valid DNS lookup. I, for instance, have a local DNS server that recognises 109bean.org.uk (which is valid, registered, responds to whois etc..) and my host, rad1, looks up fin

Dependency Viewing

2006-02-01 Thread Richard A Downing
It was pointed out on Greg's DIY-Linux list that make can be used to print a dependency list - not nearly so beautifully as Nico's dependency graph, but as a useful list. I think it should be possible to generate the makefile directly from the BLFS Book XML, but I'm not competent to do this myself

Re: Placement of Links to the Wiki in BLFS

2006-02-01 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:02:06 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some discussion of where to place a link to User Notes > on BLFS pages. After reviewing the messages, I want to get the > opinion one more time from the members of this list so we can > standardize. > > Th

Re: A2PS installation

2006-01-31 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:38:47 +0500 "Alexander E. Patrakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > The make_fonts_map.sh script uses "sort -0 +1" construction that > doesn't work with Coreutils-5.93. Please adjust this script before > installation: > > sed -i 's/+0 -1/-k 1,2/' make_fonts_map.sh

Re: GNOME IDE for Other Programming Tools

2006-01-31 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:16:25 -0800 Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, I'm betting Alexander knows where some solid > documentation for UTF-8 and udev are. But it's probably UTF-8 encoded - and in Russian! :-) R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FA

Re: Automated package building

2006-01-30 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:49:21 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please, all, tear > it apart and let me know where it needs fixing. I like it. Apart from the personal touches, of course. Does 'Cool, huh?' translate into Russian, Chinese, English? Perhaps 'Impressive, don't you th

Re: BLFS Wiki

2006-01-28 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:19:41 + Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just for info, although I'm subscribed to the (b)lfs mailing lists, I > have delivery set 'off' and read and write the lists entirely via > gmane. Added info, for what it's w

Re: BLFS Wiki

2006-01-28 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:42:51 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:46:32 -0600 > > Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>I just updated the book to add a chapter on

Re: BLFS Wiki

2006-01-28 Thread Richard A Downing
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:46:32 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just updated the book to add a chapter on the BLFS Wiki in Chapter > 1. I also added a link to the appropriate page on the wiki to openssl > as the end of the install section. > > I would appreciate readers of this list

Re: Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:34:41 + Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:24:57 -0600 > Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When I tried to look at Nico's svg file of dependencies, I found I > > didn't have an s

Re: Tool to generate BLFS dependency graph

2006-01-25 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:35:13 -0800 Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/25/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nico R. wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > I wrote a small program that allows you to get a graphical > > > representation of the BLFS dependencies. (In fact, that's wh

Re: Tool to generate BLFS dependency graph

2006-01-25 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:27:11 +0100 "Nico R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote a small program that allows you to get a graphical > representation of the BLFS dependencies. Awesome! Thanks Nico. R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.or

Re: Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:24:57 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I tried to look at Nico's svg file of dependencies, I found I > didn't have an svg viewer. There is one built into firefox, but we > don't enable it by default. Is there a reason why? > > I would *recommend* :) th

Re: Recommended and Optional Items

2006-01-24 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:38:14 -0500 Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Why? > > > > This person has deviated from the prescribed method of doing things. > > Well, in many ways, that's the motto of LFS, right? Also, why is it > prescribed? Not because it's neces

Re: Recommended and Optional Items

2006-01-24 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:07:08 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am disappointed in my effort in describing the make -f client.mk > text. I mailed into the list asking for help. *Today* It went > unanswered. Time zones, old chap! I only just got up *today*. R. -- http://linux

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-24 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:48:28 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600 > > Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not opposed to adding a section on scripting packages. Chapter 2 >

Re: Scripting Xorg-7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably not much, but it is a lot different from the rest of the > book. There is also not much difference in just executing the > commands in the proposed script. > > I don't know about you, but I script most of my pac

Re: ImageMagick-6.2.3-5 does not exist.

2006-01-17 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:09:50 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 01/17/06 07:53 CST: > > > Perhaps a note on the page then? > > That says what? Something like it does on the HTML Tidy page seems > about right. &g

Re: ImageMagick-6.2.3-5 does not exist.

2006-01-17 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:48:39 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stef Bon wrote these words on 01/17/06 07:45 CST: > > > Anybody knows something about this? Propably fast changing > > versionnumbers? > > Yes, ImageMagick is notorious for this. I'm in the middle of updating > it rig

Re: popt's debian patch

2006-01-16 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:19 + (GMT) Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed. AFAIK, nobody using the lfs family of books builds on m68k > [ shout now if I'm wrong! ], I did have a certificate saying that I can program this beasty in assembler, but have never done so in anger. The

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:11:07 + Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:55:57 -0500 > Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would really like to get everyone's opinion. > All things being equal I think thi

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:22:22 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:09 CST: > > > I'll put up a more recent set if anyone would like to > > look at them that accounts for the issues that have been found > > recently. > > At this point, I can

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:08:48 -0600 Tushar Teredesai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/9/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tushar Teredesai wrote: > > > > > > Agreed, it should either be /usr (my preference) or /usr/X11R7 > > > (the appropriate version). > > > > My preference is /usr/X1

Re: RFC: Implementing Trac [long]

2006-01-09 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:55:57 -0500 Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would really like to get everyone's opinion. I like the look of this too. You've done a good job getting the look-feel like the website. I really like the SVN browser and the Changelog. My only criticism is that t

Re: BLFS Expansion

2006-01-05 Thread Richard A Downing
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:09:04 + Andrew Benton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > I think I still prefer the wiki. And re-establishing a properly > > moderated and full-featured wiki could benefit the entire LFS > > community once again, not just BLFS. The only reason our o

Re: BLFS Expansion

2006-01-05 Thread Richard A Downing
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:59:12 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way I look at it, we have four possibilities: > > 1. Ignore the issues. > 2. Add i18n / CLFS issues to each package as they come up. > 3. Have a section or appendix in the book to address the issues and > link

Seasons Greetings

2005-12-22 Thread Richard A Downing
I shall be shutting down my systems tonight for the Christmas Holiday, back on Wednesday. SWMBO and I have to deliver Seasonal Cheer to various parts of the UK over the next few days. It has been an interesting year, moved house, became a BLFS Editor, started renovating said house, gave up editing

Re: Firefox .mozconfig

2005-12-21 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:39:40 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah. Functionally. But WTF is a Deer Park? A place you hunt old dears. Most Stately Homes in England have one, killing animals for sport is an old aristo tradition. At least they've given up hunding ph^heasants R.

Re: Firefox/T-Bird/Moz (looking for community input)

2005-12-21 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:49:45 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did want to raise a related issue. Should we discuss adding plugins > to support many of the pages on the web? Things like flash, audio and > video, etc. Perhaps these should be on a separate page for plugger. I hav

Re: Firefox/T-Bird/Moz (looking for community input)

2005-12-21 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:49:48 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > long and ugly > > Here we go: > > 1) +1 > 2) +1 > > 3) The way I see it, the following dependencies can be adjusted as > they either are a)not practical or b)cannot be used: > > A) +1 > > B) +1 - need Firefox

Re: Recommended Dependencies [was: Re: r5444 ]

2005-12-20 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:51:45 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote these words on 12/21/05 00:37 CST: > > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > Thank you for being so understanding to one who was a complete > "right didactic pompous arse". > > But what I want to know is h

Re: Font locations

2005-12-19 Thread Richard A Downing
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:24:22 -0600 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/16/05 21:15 CST: > > > OK, we keep it for now, but I don't see the "many reasons to > > keep it." > > Only because you have blinders on, and you have been the strongest, > and only,

Re: Why the lndir creation in Xorg/XFree86?

2005-12-18 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:49:16 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Staub wrote: > > In the build instructions for Xorg and XFree86, it is recommended to > > compile the "lndir" program and use it to create a "shadow > > directory of symbolic links" where you will actually built the

Re: fop install (was Re: coreutils (tail, head))

2005-12-16 Thread Richard A Downing
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:17:06 -0700 Archaic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 05:29:38PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > I'd like to get other opinions. > > I am in adamant agreement with Randy on this. I have devised a method > by which I script the install, but intentionall

Re: Thunderbird cluebat please

2005-12-13 Thread Richard A Downing
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:53:32 -0500 Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There might be a way to get this into the actual build or install > with a sed. Of course, it may be better suited as a configuration > option aftwards, especially as someone might prefer something like > *shudder* Kon

Re: Reference to the LiveCD in BLFS

2005-12-12 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:29:17 -0500 Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "In the future, the build instructions for this CD-ROM will be > presented, but they are not available at the time of this writing." > > I was a little surprised at reading that - I believe that's the first > I'd hear

Re: libungif and giflib

2005-12-10 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:50:12 -0600 DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I am not very familiar with the libungif and giflib packages. the > > imlib instructions says one "or" the other. > > > > Are there any conflicts if both packages are installed? > > Is one preferable

Re: libxml2-2.6.22 test suite - solved

2005-12-06 Thread Richard A Downing
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:14:25 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've told the libxml2 author what I've found, but the issue now is > whether we need to do anything about it in BLFS. I could put in a > note that says to disable the show-all-if-ambiguous parameter

Re: No longer an editor

2005-11-22 Thread Richard A Downing
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:46:00 -0600 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > Bruce (et al), > > I no longer wish to be an editor of the BLFS book. > If you change your mind, let me know. Sure thing. I'm not planning on deserting LFS at

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> I'm sorry I started this again now. I have to say I am more confused >> than ever. Do the guys (I use the term loosly, as 'imbeciles' seems >> more appropriate right now) upstream have any idea o

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 12:16 CST: > > >>Should we ask the LFS guys to take that out of their rules, so that we >>can deal with it in BLFS? > > > I am against that idea because the device nodes are going to be >

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Richard A Downing wrote: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >>Richard A Downing wrote: >> >> >>>Guys, >>> >>>The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script >>>that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> Now I have it working, and all I did was to to mv the rules file >> elsewhere and back again. This has me completely baffled :-) > > > Gremlins. > > -- > JH Heck, do you think so? I saw that movie.

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 10:51 CST: > > >>and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script. >> >>Now I'm out of ideas. > > > You could always go back to the way it was by having it

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script >> that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a >> control interface is never apparen

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Richard A Downing wrote: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >>Richard A Downing wrote: I'll try 070 (a la SVN LFS) and report back. and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script. Now I'm out of ideas. R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > >>I also don't seem to be able to get the snd_pcm_oss module loaded, which >>is required for realplayer. > > > Can it be loaded with modprobe? > -- Bruce Yes, and of course, I can load it at boot time.

ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-24 Thread Richard A Downing
Guys, The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063). I also don't seem to be able to get the snd_pcm_oss module loaded, which is required for realplay

Re: BLFS package

2005-10-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Filip Bartmann wrote: > Why isn,t one package with other packages in tar archive(as package > lfs-packages.tar) for BLFS? > Filip Bartmann > Of course, you could volunteer to build and maintain (after every commit to SVN), and host (with good bandwidth) such a thing, Filip. If you work out the c

Re: UTF-8 in {,B}LFS

2005-10-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >>> Could you please download the latest UTF-8 livecd: >>> >>> http://ums.usu.ru/~patrakov/lfslivecd/lfslivecd-x86-6.x-utf8-r1-nosrc.iso Is there a way of booting an

Re: UTF-8 in {,B}LFS

2005-10-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> there >> may well be some packages we should add that ONLY work in Chinese or >> Japanese in the longer term (we may be asked to do this by new friends, >> and we should be open to that idea). I emphasis

Re: UTF-8 in {,B}LFS

2005-10-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > In some non-list traffic, there has been some discussion of UTF-8 for > {,B}LFS. I'm posting this discussion to the wider community for comments. > > The question is: should {,B}LFS support UTF-8? If so, who will be > responsible for the UTF-8 specific portions of the books

Re: Problems stopping nfsd

2005-10-19 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > >>Why not use 'rpc.nfsd -- 0'? This tells the kernel [nfsd] threads to >>cease and desist - well it actually says to kernel that you want zero of >>them. > > > Interesting. I also checked RH&#x

Re: Problems stopping nfsd

2005-10-19 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote: > > >>Okay...my previous suggestion absolutely sucked using killdelay. Thanks >>for the 70 second warning Bruce. BTW, HUP seems odd to me, but I'll >>know about that in a short time. I just can't help but think that >>Nathan I talked about that script at on

libgtkhtml-2.6.3

2005-10-16 Thread Richard A Downing
SVN says that this has GNOME VFS as a Required Dependency. It doesn't; it's optional, and is only required if you want libgtkhtml as part of your GNOME setup. I build libgtkhtml to support gimp's help browsing, and configure it: ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-accessibility and it compiles

Re: Epiphany - PITA or worth it?

2005-10-13 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: it seems so pointless to install Epiphany when it itself > requires a Gecko rendering engine (Mozilla or Firefox or Thunderbird) > as a required dependency. Despite not being a GROAN user myself, I can't see the point in putting all the rest of it in the book and then miss

Re: Remove GTK+-1?

2005-10-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> Of course, you have to have some cash > > > And not be married - a finanical management application is of no use to > me whatsoever - I already know my wife spends money faster than I can > earn it, I don&#

Re: Remove GTK+-1? (was - Re: Nothing Doing (longish).)

2005-10-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: I hate it when people do that to a perfectly innocent thread. Start your own! By Hijacker. R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Nothing Doing (longish).

2005-10-05 Thread Richard A Downing
nd enjoy learning > from all of you. We're a community project and you're an important part > of this community. I hope you won't go away. Each of us is important in > our own way. > > Kind regards, > sash > > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> To put it s

Re: Remove GTK+-1?

2005-10-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 10/05/05 13:16 CST: > >>As for gnome-1, I'm not sure >>why anyone would be using that. > > > It is a must for GnuCash. Which is a really, really good > financial/cash manager application. > Of course, you have to have some cash R.

Nothing Doing (longish).

2005-10-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Guys, You might have noticed that I have not committed anything recently. I'm considering leaving the team (note: not going away in a huff or to spend more time with my wife :-) - but thought I would air this first and get your reaction. On my normal system I don't build LFS in a standard way.

Re: Creating users that don't need a specific group

2005-09-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Archaic wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 01:15:46AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > >>Thoughts from the group would be appreciated... > > > A generic users groups seems like it could be a security nightmare for a > sysadmin. People who do need to share files generally belong to a > descriptive gr

Re: gcc-4.x installation

2005-09-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 09/20/05 02:10 CST: > > >>For the record, I am still running a 200 Mhz Pentium MMX as my firewall, >>and don't plan to retire it any time soon. I also run a 133Mhz laptop, >>which is perfectly usable.

Re: gcc-4.x installation

2005-09-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Tushar Teredesai wrote these words on 09/20/05 00:00 CST: > > >>Not so little for my slow-poke Pentium III :) > > > Umm. Upgrade perhaps? > > In the city you live in you can buy a 2600+ Sempron with 256 MB of > RAM and a 60 GM hard drive, (with included printer) for 100

Re: GTK-2.8.x

2005-09-13 Thread Richard A Downing
Kevin Jordan wrote: > On 9/13/05, Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I just got though building it on the GCC-4 system. It appears to work >>well. (gtk+-2.8.3/glib-2.8.1/pango-1.10.0/atk-1.10.1/cairo-1.0.0) >> >>I was kind of surprised that noth

Re: Patches for the book

2005-09-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 09/05/05 05:20 CST: > > >>1) How do I get it to be at a regular BLFS patch location, e.g.: >>http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/svn/gnupg-1.4.2-curl_LDAP-1.patch >>which I assume is what is nee

Patches for the book

2005-09-05 Thread Richard A Downing
Simple question :-) I'm editing the book to add an required patch for an optional configuration switch (--with-libcurl) to GnuPG. I've introduced the patch to the patches project svn - I'm assuming this gets to be visible on the website downloads section by some render process to the website. (co

Re: Upcoming changes for xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > FYI, I found this link today. > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2005-June/008325.html > > This will be a major update to xorg and I would guess we will need to > integrate it into BLFS sometime in October. > > -- Bruce We may also have some decisions to mak

Re: Recommended dependencies.

2005-08-29 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Seems reasonable to me. Want to take a stab at it? > > It should go in the "Important Information" chapter, but I don't know if > it should be a new section or a subsection of "Notes on Building Software". > > -- Bruce Done. Perhaps someone will check that I used the

Re: kde dependencies

2005-08-27 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I'm inclined to add these to the book with the exception of krb4 > (because we already have krb5). > > Opinions? There seem to be a lot of new packages going in recently. I thought (but this might hark back to Larry-days) that there was pressure to exclude things that are b

Re: BLFS 6.1 is released

2005-08-20 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Tushar Teredesai wrote: > > >>We were on break for the last couple of weeks :) So now it is B2W. > > > Not *all* of us. :) > -- Bruce > > > Ah! The priviledges of rank. R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

Re: Chapter 1 ordering/contents

2005-08-18 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > The dicussion on blfs-dev and lfs-dev about the changelog has brought up > an issue that I'd like to discuss. > > Is the order of topics we have in Chapter 1 optimal? Do we need to add > or delete any topics? Right now we have: > > Comments? I'm happy with the consensus on

Re: GCC-3.3.6

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 08/17/05 12:33 CST: > > >>Just noticed that in the 3.4.4 patch Jim Gifford says 'Upstream Status: >>Delayed till 3.4.4' ( it IS 3.4.4 !). So I guess it wasn't, and hence >>needs to be the L

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
M.Canales.es wrote: > El Miércoles, 17 de Agosto de 2005 20:44, Richard A Downing escribió: > >>M.Canales.es wrote: > > >>I'm not in favour of this. I like the strict chrono order of the >>current changelog. IMO, the new one is more cluttered (more sections)

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > M.Canales.es wrote these words on 08/17/05 13:43 CST: > > >>I'm speaking about the real changelog entries, the ones grouped by date and >>divided by editor/change. > > > Oh, well why didn't you say so? :-) > > Seems to me the only difference is that the date is only li

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
M.Canales.es wrote: > Hi, > > Now that the trunk Changelog is yet small, maybe we can move on their format > to the new layout used in the cross-lfs book. See, for example, the > "Changelog entries" section in > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/cross-lfs/x86/introduction/changelog.htm

Re: GCC-3.3.6

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > And your theory that it was applied to the 3.4.x and above branches > make sense. > Just noticed that in the 3.4.4 patch Jim Gifford says 'Upstream Status: Delayed till 3.4.4' ( it IS 3.4.4 !). So I guess it wasn't, and hence needs to be the LFS Ch6. My best guess is t

Re: GCC-3.3.6

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote these words on 08/17/05 11:53 CST: > > >>Works fine. > > > Yes, it seems to. However, my concern is because in the patch header > it says: > > Upstream Status: Applied > Clearly it has NOT been applied u

Re: GCC-3.3.6

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Any help would be appreciated. > I patched it too (gcc-3.3.6 on my gcc-4 system). Script say: patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-3.3.4-no_fixincludes-1.patch && patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-3.3.4-linkonce-1.patch && Log say: patching file gcc/Makefile.in Hunk #1 succeeded at 2341 (offset

Re: Editors' Guide Updates

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've just committed several changes to the Editors' guide. Please take > a look and see if thee is more needed. I specifically addressed the > issues in bugs 1480 and 1486. > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/edguide/index.html > > -- Bruce I'm still reading and dig

Re: Creating logs of builds (was - Re: Addition to Chapter 12)

2005-08-11 Thread Richard A Downing
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Do you mean something like this? :) > Horrible! :-) Seriously, I'm sure it works for you, but everyone should roll their own (Here Richard seeks to dominate the world with his own opinion - as usual :). I see LFS as teaching people about UNIX and Linux, and BLFS as teac

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