Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Barius Drubeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 17:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > builds against the sanitized headers, too. I suppose we could add a > > note that says you can build more extensions against the raw kernel > > sources at your own risk. > > Isn't it

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Barius Drubeck
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 17:55, Dan Nicholson wrote: > builds against the sanitized headers, too. I suppose we could add a > note that says you can build more extensions against the raw kernel > sources at your own risk. Isn't it a really bad idea to be building against a different version o

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 11:33 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:19 CST: > > >> For example, one test looks for $KERNEL_DIR/net, while other tests > >> look for $KERNEL_DIR/include/linux/... > >> > >> Which means in order to work, there would have to be a

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sure would be nice if we could identify what those extra modules > and extensions *do*, and why almost everyone else's Iptables installation > seems okay without them (at least there's been no reports of breakage > or folks needing them).

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Which means in order to work, there would have to be a /usr/net > > dir, which will never happen in a sanitized header installation. Another example I just noticed is ipt_NETLINK.c. The test is looking for $KERNEL_DIR/net/ipv4/netfilter

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:19 CST: >> For example, one test looks for $KERNEL_DIR/net, while other tests >> look for $KERNEL_DIR/include/linux/... >> >> Which means in order to work, there would have to be a /usr/net >> dir, which will never happen in a sanitized header insta

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to admit that I didn't really understand the sanatized kernel > headers stuff before this, but I do now! > > One question this leads me onto though - is the Linux-Libc-Headers > project still being maintained? The download area I've f

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
> > As per the other post that I've just sent, I think the problem is that > > the sanitized headers are a bit out of date. > > It isn't that the sanitized headers are "a bit out of date". Actually, > Iptables is using headers that are not installed at all using > sanitized headers. > > For examp

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 11:09 CST: > As per the other post that I've just sent, I think the problem is that > the sanitized headers are a bit out of date. It isn't that the sanitized headers are "a bit out of date". Actually, Iptables is using headers that are not installed

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 10:59 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:25 CST: > > > Hmmm, they don't work :-) There's about a dozen extensions that > > (silently) don't get compiled or installed. > > Yes, I see that now. Thanks, Andy. > > > > Okay, how abou

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:55 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't mean modules as such. I mean extensi

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:55 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't mean modules as such. I mean extensi

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:25 CST: > Hmmm, they don't work :-) There's about a dozen extensions that > (silently) don't get compiled or installed. Yes, I see that now. Thanks, Andy. > Okay, how about as a compromise, at least a note stating that for some > extensions you h

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry, I don't mean modules as such. I mean extensions. Each > > > target/match for iptables has its own extension. >

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorry, I don't mean modules as such. I mean extensions. Each > > target/match for iptables has its own extension. > > Yeah, you're right. Could you show the exact errors? I'm gue

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I don't mean modules as such. I mean extensions. Each > target/match for iptables has its own extension. Yeah, you're right. Could you show the exact errors? I'm guessing that our kernel headers are just too old in LFS-6.2. -- Dan -

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 10:21 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:11 CST: > > > So unless there is a really good reason for not using the KERNEL_DIR > > variable, I would suggest that, at a minimum, the book is changed to > > state that KERNEL_DIR should a

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 08:14 -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The modules weren't compiling because iptables was using a default > > include path of /usr/src/linux/include. This doesn't exist in LFS so > > needs to be specified when making i

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/07/07 10:11 CST: > So unless there is a really good reason for not using the KERNEL_DIR > variable, I would suggest that, at a minimum, the book is changed to > state that KERNEL_DIR should always be set. Well, this issue goes back years. And we consider a

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/7/07, Andrew Beverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The modules weren't compiling because iptables was using a default > include path of /usr/src/linux/include. This doesn't exist in LFS so > needs to be specified when making iptables as follows: > > make PREFIX=/usr LIBDIR=/lib BINDIR=/sbin

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 16:25 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/06/07 16:02 CST: > > > Hopefully I'll get this in before 6.2 is released! > > No promises. :-) > > > > Is it possible to update iptables to 1.3.7? I've checked the 'current > > development' versio

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
>> Is it possible to update iptables to 1.3.7? I've checked the 'current >> development' version of the book and iptables is still at 1.3.5 >> >> I tried a few weeks ago to compile 1.3.7 on an LFS 6.2 system and found >> that some of the modules didn't compile properly and weren't available >> to u

Re: iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Beverley wrote these words on 02/06/07 16:02 CST: > Hopefully I'll get this in before 6.2 is released! No promises. :-) > Is it possible to update iptables to 1.3.7? I've checked the 'current > development' version of the book and iptables is still at 1.3.5 > > I tried a few weeks ago t

iptables 1.3.7 and BLFS 6.2

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Beverley
Hi, Hopefully I'll get this in before 6.2 is released! Is it possible to update iptables to 1.3.7? I've checked the 'current development' version of the book and iptables is still at 1.3.5 I tried a few weeks ago to compile 1.3.7 on an LFS 6.2 system and found that some of the modules didn't com

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 21:33 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > I'm leaning to 6.2.0. Here's why: > > I don't know how to increment from 6.2 and still be within the LFS-6.2 > structure. BLFS-6.2.1 makes no sense if there wasn't a 6.2.0 version. This is how most other projects do versioning though. If

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-26 Thread Miguel Bazdresch
* Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-26 19:05]: > >I can only test on my scanner, but I do follow the xsane devel list. I > >hope that's useful. > > That's awesome. Following the mailing lists is a big plus in my mind. > Like I said above, just reporting your experience in Trac is very > h

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/25/06, Miguel Bazdresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-25 17:26]: > > It would be awesome if you could open a ticket about this so that it's > not forgotten. I just did. Could you take a look and see if it's ok? I assigned it a pretty high priority

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-25 Thread Miguel Bazdresch
* Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-25 17:26]: > On 10/23/06, Miguel Bazdresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Not a package update, but I reported an error with the hdparm > >instructions here: > > > >http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/blfs-dev/2006-October/015769.html >

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote in BLFS-Dev: I much prefer that we move to 3 part versions, for all books, +1 -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
of the group giving +1, -1 votes for the desired choice of: > > 1. Change all the references of BLFS-6.2 to BLFS-6.2.0 and >go forward. +1 I already voted, but just to make sure my vote gets counted in the +/-1 system, +1 I much prefer that we move to 3 part versions, for all boo

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > It's not clear to me why one way is easier than another. Setting either > is merely an entity change. Setting either as a milestone is equally > trivial. Since you're the one that will make the appropriate changes to the Trac system, and you classify the changes as "trivi

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
#x27;ve been out of town. > > [crossposted to lfs-dev, replies should be sent to blfs-dev] > > I am out of town right now and will be for a week. As far as > the milestones go, let's go back to the old-fashioned method > of the group giving +1, -1 votes for the desired choi

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
am out of town right now and will be for a week. As far as the milestones go, let's go back to the old-fashioned method of the group giving +1, -1 votes for the desired choice of: 1. Change all the references of BLFS-6.2 to BLFS-6.2.0 and go forward. 2. Keep what we have (BLFS-6.2), and w

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/23/06, Miguel Bazdresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-21 13:26]: Not a package update, but I reported an error with the hdparm instructions here: http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/blfs-dev/2006-October/015769.html It would be a

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Miguel Bazdresch
* Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-10-21 13:26]: Not a package update, but I reported an error with the hdparm instructions here: http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/blfs-dev/2006-October/015769.html which seems to have been lost. > XSane http://wiki.linuxfromscra

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/21/06 12:45 CST: > >> I'd like to consider changing many of the Trac system tickets to post-6.2 >> status so that we can concentrate on getting a release candidate out. > > Using this thread as the BLFS

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: XFSProgshttp://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/2028 The current instructions in the book fail because of the 404 error. So please update the package and add a note that -DNDEBUG flag is needed only with CFLAGS set to some value. NcFTP http://w

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 10/22/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/21/06 12:45 CST: > I'd like to consider changing many of the Trac system tickets to post-6.2 > status so that we can concentrate on getting a release candidate out. Using this threa

Re: BLFS 6.2

2006-10-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 10/21/06 12:45 CST: > I'd like to consider changing many of the Trac system tickets to post-6.2 > status so that we can concentrate on getting a release candidate out. Using this thread as the BLFS 6.2 release notes thread, as the 'Subject'

BLFS 6.2

2006-10-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'd like to consider changing many of the Trac system tickets to post-6.2 status so that we can concentrate on getting a release candidate out. Please review the list below and comment on anything you'd like to see included in 6.2 (additionally, you may need to identify a resource that wi

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
David Jensen wrote: A bit more poking around shows, for both seamonkey and firefox: ac_add_options --enable-pango does not really enable Thai, that needs an additional option. Could you please point me to the source that led you definitely to this conclusion? There are sources that say the con

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-24 Thread David Jensen
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 9/23/06, David Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Jensen wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: >> >> Now, if you wouldn't mind testing the --enable-pango patch, that would >> be fantastic. ... > Okay, ... Done, hey! most text looks better. But, yes, slower. A bit more po

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-24 Thread M.Canales.es
El Domingo, 24 de Septiembre de 2006 05:22, Dan Nicholson escribió: > > Cool. We should also look at upgrading to docbook-xsl-1.70.1. Is there > a ticket for that? http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/2088 See in the ticket the issues found when rendering *LFS books using docbook-xsl-1.

Re: Xorg datadir [[was:::Re: BLFS 6.2]]

2006-09-23 Thread Joe Ciccone
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 9/23/06, Joe Ciccone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Building without --datadir here is the output of find /usr/X11R7/share. >> Easy enough to compare it to build with --datadir to see the >> differences. (I don't have a build with --datadir or I'd send a diff >> between the

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 9/23/06, David Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Jensen wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: >> >> Now, if you wouldn't mind testing the --enable-pango patch, that would >> be fantastic. ... > Okay, ... Done, hey! most text looks better. But, yes, slower. Note: the patches apply (with offset),

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread David Jensen
David Jensen wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: Now, if you wouldn't mind testing the --enable-pango patch, that would be fantastic. ... Okay, ... Done, hey! most text looks better. But, yes, slower. Note: the patches apply (with offset), I believe current policy is to update the version ignoring

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Christoph Berg
Am Samstag 23 September 2006 15:26 schrieb David Jensen: > 1912: Doxygen-1.4.6 compilation, fixed with 1.4.7, see ticket 2039. As I was the one, who reported the error, I can confirm, that doxygen works flawlessly here. I've nearly built all API documentation of the BLFS packages I use and didn'

Re: Xorg datadir [[was:::Re: BLFS 6.2]]

2006-09-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 9/23/06, Joe Ciccone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Building without --datadir here is the output of find /usr/X11R7/share. Easy enough to compare it to build with --datadir to see the differences. (I don't have a build with --datadir or I'd send a diff between the outputs too.) Here's my main c

Xorg datadir [[was:::Re: BLFS 6.2]]

2006-09-23 Thread Joe Ciccone
Dan Nicholson wrote: > 2119 and 2121: Xorg --datadir - Certainly worth looking at. I don't > build the way the book says, and there were only one or two packages > where this was an issue, IIRC. They might be fixed up now as I wrote > most of my scripts against 7.0 and the autotools were still pret

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread David Jensen
Dan Nicholson wrote: Now, if you wouldn't mind testing the --enable-pango patch, that would be fantastic. You don't even have to install it as you can run from the builddir since the mozilla scripts set all the appropriate environment variables. Just build it up and run it. If it doesn't crash,

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 9/23/06, David Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: > > 2010: Seamonkey - Bruce, I think you're the only one who builds > seamonkey. I'd do it, but those Mozilla builds take like 3.5 hours on > my box. If you (or whoever) builds it, please test the --enable-pango > functional

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread David Jensen
Dan Nicholson wrote: 2010: Seamonkey - Bruce, I think you're the only one who builds seamonkey. I'd do it, but those Mozilla builds take like 3.5 hours on my box. If you (or whoever) builds it, please test the --enable-pango functionality. You can probably copy the firefox pangoxft patch directl

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 9/23/06, David Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Notes: 1). I would like to see the D-BUS/Hal updates real soon. They are required now for several packages, and I had no luck building the new versions. My opinion here. I think we should stick with hal-0.5.7.1 and dbus-0.61. I don't see

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > (I'll get the 6.3 milestone into the system tonight.) Err, I'll do it now... Done. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 09/22/06 15:20 CST: >> On 9/22/06, Steffen Ungruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> But now, 7 weeks after the LFS 6.2 release, I'll have to ask the question >>> you'll all probably don

Re: BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-23 Thread David Jensen
Randy McMurchy wrote: It will be soon. I will be attempting to contact the individual BLFS Editors to see what they would like to contribute in the next 5 weeks. Their replies (and don't wait for me to contact you if you read this), should be posted here so that the community can see what is slat

BLFS 6.2 [was::: Re: BLFS New Management]

2006-09-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 09/22/06 15:20 CST: > On 9/22/06, Steffen Ungruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But now, 7 weeks after the LFS 6.2 release, I'll have to ask the question >> you'll all probably don't want to hear: When will BLFS 6.2 be relea