Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 9:03 PM -0500 1/3/03, Chris Devers wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: One of the nice things about keeping your mail on the server and going with IMAP--at least changing clients is reasonably simple, though there's still that pesky address book & filter issue. Hence the joy o

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Nandor
At 22:58 -0500 2003.01.03, Peter R. Wood wrote: >The general sequence of events was: Apple releases original Sherlock; >Karelia releases Watson to 'complement' Sherlock; Apple awards Karelia >'Most Innovative Mac OS X Product of 2002'; Apple releases Sherlock 3 >(which is a dead ringer for Watson)

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Peter R. Wood
> * Sherlock / Watson > OSX 10.0 came out with its version of Sherlock (3.0?), and it was... > meh. Then Watson came out, and trounced it in every way -- this is very > neat software for getting information of all sorts from the internet. > Then Jaguar brought Sherlock 3.5, and -- supposedly by c

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: > One of the nice things about keeping your mail on the server and going > with IMAP--at least changing clients is reasonably simple, though > there's still that pesky address book & filter issue. Hence the joy of [b] procmail & friends (which keeps your fi

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 4:39 PM -0500 1/3/03, David H. Adler wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:51:14PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinf

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Mikey Smelto
I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a cross-service IM client, Fire.app is okay -- and it's GPL too! It's just not as cute as iChat though... :) Also, if you've got Fink/OroborOSX, Gaim is an option -- I seem to recall that can do multiple protocols now... I guess I could include m

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Mikey Smelto
I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a cross-service IM client, Fire.app is okay -- and it's GPL too! It's just not as cute as iChat though... :) Also, if you've got Fink/OroborOSX, Gaim is an option -- I seem to recall that can do multiple protocols now... http://www.everybud

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Mikey Smelto wrote: > Does EveryBuddy run on OSX? I haven't had to run a chat client on linux > for a while, but when I did (about a year and a half ago) EveryBuddy > handled AOL, Yahoo, MSN, and ICQ messaging decently. I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a cross-

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Mikey Smelto
* iChat The cartoon metaphor for IM discussion works surprisingly well, and the integration with the system address book is useful. On the other hand, it seems to crash a lot, and it would be nice if it could integrate with other IM services. (On the gripping hand, it would be better still if

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
Some addenda: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Drew Taylor wrote: > User Groups Do *not* sign up for Omnigroup's OSX client list. Scariest den of trolls I've ever seen. Fun for a day, mutilating after a week. I'm told that their OSX server lists are saner but the client list was so brutal that I'm afraid to

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Nandor
At 15:15 -0600 2003.01.03, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: >Adam Turoff [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: >*> >*>Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much >*>of value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much >*>more discussion about netinfo and other darwin/osx-is

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Drew Taylor
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Here's a summary of the replies. I think I have lots to look forward to now. :-) User Groups --- Boston Mac Users' Group http://www.bmac.org Next meeting on Wed Jan 8, 2002 at MIT campus MacWoburn user group http://www.macwoburn.org Meets at C

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:51:14PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker > yesterday. > "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" > http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=13341&db=mac I'm actually not bei

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Peter R. Wood
> > Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much of > value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much more > discussion about netinfo and other darwin/osx-isms that you don't find > on other *NIXes. The coverage of netinfo was pretty much limited to > "th

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Adam Turoff [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much *>of value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much *>more discussion about netinfo and other darwin/osx-isms that you don't *>find on other *NIXes. The coverage of

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Drew Taylor
At 03:54 PM 1/3/03 -0500, Ron Newman wrote: On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fc

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:07:52PM -0500, Peter R. Wood wrote: > > 4. More in-depth books than "Missing Manual". Hints on hardware > > especially helpful. > > Run, don't walk, to get O'Reilly's "Mac OS X For UNIX Geeks" - if want to > leverage your UNIX knowledge with your new Mac system, this bo

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Ron Newman
On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=13341&db=mac It's not perfect, but it'

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Drew Taylor
I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=13341&db=mac It's not perfect, but it's got to be better than the stock importer for Mail. It was slo

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:41 PM -0500 1/3/03, Chris Devers wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 2:18 PM -0500 1/2/03, darren chamberlain wrote: Dead-simple. Copy your Windows mail folder over and tell Mac eudora about it and you're set. (Done it both ways, works very nicely) More broadly, Eudora u

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Nandor
At 12:07 -0500 2003.01.03, Peter R. Wood wrote: >Keep up on the latest Mac software, news, etc: > >http://versiontracker.com/macosx/ - tracks new Mac software releases >http://www.macintouch.com/ - Mac news and commentary >http://www.lowendmac.com/ - for folks like you who have older Macs >http://

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 2:18 PM -0500 1/2/03, darren chamberlain wrote: > Dead-simple. Copy your Windows mail folder over and tell Mac eudora > about it and you're set. (Done it both ways, works very nicely) More broadly, Eudora uses mbox format, doesn't it? Mail.app does too

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, darren chamberlain wrote: > * Andrew M. Langmead [2003-01-03 11:47]: > > The unicode support is nice. Your foreign spam comes in its proper > > script, rather than funny escape characters that mess up for text > > display (like frequently happens with mutt) >^^

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Peter R. Wood
> 4. More in-depth books than "Missing Manual". Hints on hardware > especially helpful. Run, don't walk, to get O'Reilly's "Mac OS X For UNIX Geeks" - if want to leverage your UNIX knowledge with your new Mac system, this book will be invaluable. I got a copy for Christmas... it's very handy. >

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Nandor
At 11:47 -0500 2003.01.03, Andrew M. Langmead wrote: >The Oroboro OS X window manager is a very Ob Pedantic: It is "OroborOSX", which is a combination of "Oroborous" and "Mac OS X". http://www.dreamind.de/oroborus.shtml >The unicode support is nice. Your foreig

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread darren chamberlain
* Andrew M. Langmead [2003-01-03 11:47]: > The unicode support is nice. Your foreign spam comes in its proper > script, rather than funny escape characters that mess up for text > display (like frequently happens with mutt) ^ ...only if it isn't setup co

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Andrew M. Langmead
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:10:02AM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > 2. What are your favorite/must have utilities? Just to make sure, has anyone pointed out the Fink project to you? These are ports of common Unix utilties and applications to Mac OS X. Its a convenient way

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Peter R. Wood
Chris et al, > I've been on their list for maybe a year now, and it's vey > vewy qwiet Plus, for some reason, most of their meetings > seem to fall on the same night as Boston.pm meetings -- meaning that I Odd - Boston.pm is supposed to meet on the 2nd Tuesday, and BMAC is supposed to

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Drew Taylor wrote: > At 11:28 AM 1/2/03 -0500, Ron Newman wrote: > > >On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: > >> > >>1. Are there any local Mac mailing lists? I'm subscribed to > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] already. > > > >You'll want to get on the announcement

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

2003-01-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:31:25PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > I know everyone raves about mutt, and will probably look into it at some > point. But it seems strange to be using a text-oriented mail program in one > of the prettiest GUI's available. What do you mean? I use mutt all the time usin