On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:17:34 -0800, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After an enjoyable late evening Friday with David Brin, David Land and a
few others who aren't on the list, I got up Saturday morning and
headed to Modesto, where my wife already was, to help get things ready
for her
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/8/223851/482
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These
Sorry about the time lapse in the thread, but I had to seriously cool
off before I did something rash.
Nick Arnett wrote:
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
[Various complaints snipped.]
From the e-mail that *everyone* receives when they subscribe:
Your first messages will be moderated. If you
Sonja said:
Shees indeed. I'm still wondering what all this gall's got to do
with MY complaint. I'm my own person and I think I've earned my
stripes on this list for being an earnest, concerned and carefull
poster. Thus this, your behaviour towards _me_ is totally
unwarrented and completely
http://img103.exs.cx/img103/4526/exit_poll.gif
None dare call it a conspiracy.
--
I Pledge Impertinence to the Flag-Waving of the Unindicted
Co-Conspirators of America
and to the Republicans for which I can't stand
one Abomination, Underhanded Fraud
Indefensible
with Liberty and Justice
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From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(
Sonja said:
Shees indeed. I'm still wondering what all this gall's got to do
At 10:36 PM 11/8/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
We're looking at that issue right now, actually. Two
complementary initial guesses, but they're both just
that. Exit polls tend to be taken in
higher-population districts.
Well how stupid is that? Why in the hell would they bias their polls
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well how stupid is that? Why in the hell would they
bias their polls in
such a way as to make them useless? Do they only
take regular polls in
higher-population districts? That makes no sense at
all to me.
--
Doug
Not very, actually.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sonja said:
Shees indeed. I'm still wondering what all this gall's got to do
with MY complaint. I'm my own person and I think I've earned my
stripes on this list for being an earnest, concerned and carefull
poster. Thus this, your behaviour towards _me_ is totally
I've finally decided to quit this list. It's been long years of fun, and
some years of somewhat less fun. Unfortunatly I just realised that
lately it's been no fun at all. I guess it is now time to leave for
greener pastures.
I wish you all well.
Sonja
ROU: I've simply had enough, Nick wins.
Nick Arnett wrote:
After an enjoyable late evening Friday with David Brin, David Land
and a few others who aren't on the list, I got up Saturday morning
and headed to Modesto, where my wife already was, to help get things
ready for her baby (our fourth grand-child),
So, your
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gautam Mukunda wrote
... Europe will, to some extent, have closed the [military] gap
with where the US is _today_ by 2015.
When you talk about the `gap'
* do you mean the gap in fighting a symmetrical battle or
* do you mean the gap in running an
On 8 Nov 2004, at http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/
John Robb describes Fallujah as a
... temporary autonomous zone that is being used by global
guerrillas for regional operations. It isn't a central hub of the
insurgency, because there isn't any central hub. The insurgency
Robert Seeberger wrote:
In Sonja's case, well she and anyone
who has an .nl address suffers fallout from one certain persons bad
behavior and frequent efforts to break into the list.
If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to cause
trouble, I would _never_ use a .nl address.
Again, So far as I know, exit poll results were not released by
precincts. Heck, so far as I know, exit poll results were not
released by county. Thus, it is very difficult to correlate exit
polls to actual results.
But not impossible. This means that for a region for which you
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
After an enjoyable late evening Friday with David Brin, David Land
and a few others who aren't on the list, I got up Saturday morning
and headed to Modesto, where my wife already was, to help get things
ready for her baby (our fourth grand-child),
On 9 Nov 2004, at 2:14 pm, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
After an enjoyable late evening Friday with David Brin, David Land
and a few others who aren't on the list, I got up Saturday morning
and headed to Modesto, where my wife already was, to help get things
ready for her baby
Richard Baker wrote:
I don't recall Sonja ever saying anything that might justify her
messages being moderated for any reason other than having subscribed a
new address.
Her *address* was moderated briefly because, as she mentioned in her
next message, the list suddenly started receiving spam
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote:
In Sonja's case, well she and anyone
who has an .nl address suffers fallout from one certain persons
bad
behavior and frequent efforts to break into the list.
If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to cause
- Original Message -
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: Technical problem, or something far worse? :o(
Alberto has a point. I've suffered from the paranoia that anyone
from that particular
On Nov 9, 2004, at 7:32 AM, Horn, John wrote:
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro
If I were a .nler and I wanted to break into the list to cause
trouble, I would _never_ use a .nl address. There are so many
other free emailiers, like yahoo, hotmail, etc.
Alberto has a point. I've suffered from the
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:20:04 + (UTC), Robert J. Chassell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
As Gautam says, `The Iraqi insurgents may be in the process of making
a similar mistake [to the VC] in Fallujah.' Robb is arguing that they
are not, but instead they (or most of them) have `melted away'.
Nick said:
We have never covertly moderated anyone on this list, nor do I
plan to do so.
That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
Rich
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Gautam said:
Hi Rich. It's an interesting argument - I think I've
talked about it with you briefly. I just want to
point out, though, that I think you've stacked the
deck a little bit.
Yes, you did talk to me about it briefly, and I appreciate your comments
both then and now. I don't
- Original Message -
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: Purple America
This also is true. The important thing, though, is not the gap between
the US and EU militaries, but
On Nov 6, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
I'll fully agree with you on one point: our different opinions
concerning
Bush will be subject to experimental verificationso I can see
your
reluctance to spend time on speculation.
Gosh, you both sound like guys whose lives aren't on the line,
On Nov 6, 2004, at 5:07 AM, Erik Reuter wrote:
Hmmm. I think Gautam was being a little lazy and relying too much on
his
memory.
Which, when demanding statistics, is rhetorically unwise.
But I think that your comments, Warren, have often been incoherent.
Are you relying on memory too, now, Erik?
On Nov 6, 2004, at 8:30 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Warren - the reason I tend to rely on my memory for
postings on list is because I do this for a living. I
get paid exceedingly tiny sums of money to think about
politics, and that involves an awful lot of time spent
burrowing through historical
The best part of The Incredibles has to be the graphics (Pixar
seems to have taken a gamble- instead of simply pursuing greater
realism, they have subordinated it to style. And it works.), and
some of the supporting superheroes- I thought the best part was
the enumeration of heros done in by their
So Dr. Brin, I was reading Kiln People your new novel.
Rather good, although towards the end seemed you'd tossed too
many balls in the air. And what is it with you and endings
involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not
that I'm counting).
But my question really is that early
In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And what is it with you and endings
involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not
that I'm counting).
Oh please. Count them.
Heaven's Reach and Creideiki. I know that's one of
Dang it's a good thing I like snippy-bright people.
Most would have flushed your note, ignoring the
underlying friendliness.
In fact, KP kind of mocks transcendance, as you well
note. It acknowledges that it may happen, but (as in
my other books) I also say the life will go on.
I just returned
Some spoilerspace for discussion of THE INCREDIBLES:
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:20:47 -0600
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, what did you see that reminded you of Brin's essays?
Okay.
Two primary scenes, one secondary. Essays in mind are the Salon
essays on LotR
I'm still wading out from under piles of distractions (ten speeches
in two months!) hoping to get around to that longer post-election
essay in which I'll offer a few suggestions how to deal with this new
world we find ourselves in.
Meanwhile, there's this.
My initial reactions to the
See the following correlation between average IQ in red vs blue
states. http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
Note while looking at this chart that Iowa, Colorado, Nevada, Ohio,
Oregon and Florida were all close. Bearing that in mind, the
correlation is simply stunning. It starkly explains
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From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: Brin: the new know nothings
See the following correlation between average IQ in red vs blue
states. http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
Note while looking
Please tell me this is a silly joke, David. The chart said they couldn't
source the numbers. I was able to source SAT scores. I found that Alaska,
for example, had more people take the test than California, yet had
significantly higher test scores.
Not to mention that according to the table
At 04:29 PM 11/9/2004 -0800 d.brin wrote:
--
Some of you recall I used a metaphor - the Union has been conquered
by the Confederacy. Some ridiculed this, pointing to the Plains and
Mountain states, forgetting that those areas DID allow slavery
before the Civil War.
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to mention that according to the table more than
half the US is below average intelligence
(figuring 100 to be the average median in the range
of
intelligence).
Um... the states on the bottom half have lower
populations, therefore, naturally,
Oh, I get it, Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota,
Nebraska, Montana, and
Colorado vote for Republicans for President because
of *legalized*slavery*
during the Civil War?
To this day, the continent of Europe is divided into
those countries that have bourgeois mayorial systems
of local
At 04:29 PM 11/9/2004 -0800 d.brin wrote:
EDUCATIONBush.vs 2000
No High School (4%)..49%..+10
H.S. Graduate (22%)..52%...+3
Some College (32%)...54%..+3
College Graduate (26%)..52%.+1
Postgrad Study
--- JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhh... Dr. Brin - by your standards, you are
out-and-out *lying* here.
You can go f**k yourself for saying that, you asshole.
I said their support plummeted. I did not say whom
they voted for.
They all know where their bread is buttered. I used
them as
At 07:58 PM 11/9/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
Uhh... Dr. Brin - by your standards, you are
out-and-out *lying* here.
[bleep]
I said their support plummeted. I did not say whom
they voted for.
They all know where their bread is buttered. I used
them as EXTREMA!
And ALL three expressed
I took some data on proficiency tests of 8th graders in 2003 on the
National Assessment of Education Progress test, which this conservative
blogger posted
http://www.isteve.com/Web_Exclusives_Archive-May2004.htm#38115.6465670139
and he references this site as the source
- Original Message -
From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: Fact Check
At 07:58 PM 11/9/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
Uhh... Dr. Brin - by your standards, you are
out-and-out *lying* here.
Sonja wrote:
I wish you all well.
I wish you well too, Sonja and regret that you feel you need to unsub. I
do think you're a little hard on Nick - he does spend his own time and
resources on maintaining the list without compensation. I don't doubt
that you've had problems and are justifiably
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:17:34 -0800, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm happy to announce that the newest member of our extended family
(but only a bit newer than my sister's daughter born a couple of weeks
ago in Pittsburgh) arrived at 5:50 yesterday. Mom and baby are fine.
The
Wearing my list manager hat, I'm just going to say that I saw enough
personal attacks in the last couple of minutes of reading to lead me to
suggest that we all take a deep breath before posting again.
Nick
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At 05:07 PM 11/9/2004 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And what is it with you and endings
involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not
that I'm counting).
Oh please. Count them.
In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:17:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Heaven's Reach and Creideiki. I know that's one of them.
You could easily argue that Heart of the Comet would make two.
JDG
I feel a need to insert an Orson Scott Cardiovascular joke here--but
http://slate.msn.com/id/2108887/#ContinueArticle
Apologies if this article has already been posted.
From the intro:
The report's authors derive this figure by estimating how many Iraqis
died in a 14-month period before the U.S. invasion, conducting surveys on
how many died in a similar period
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 05:07 PM 11/9/2004 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And what is it with you and endings
involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not
that I'm counting).
In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:44:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Has everyone forgotten Earth?
I would think that one the most obvious.
xponent
Tranny Maru
rob
Transcendence Spotting?
Time to count the infantiles on the ceiling.
Vilyehm
kerri miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Ruben Krasnopolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am now leaving the office (don't ask) to see if I see something.
In rural Champaign county, I should stand decent chances...
Well?
It was absolutely awesome here in the NorthWest!
-kerri, happy to have
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