Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Daniel M. Himmel, Ph. D.
Dear JL, Years ago, this was a common problem when I was crystallizing myosin constructs for my doctoral work. Some of the most beautiful crystals I got showed little or no diffraction. Often this occurs when there is a very large water content in the asymmetric unit and in proteins that have a

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread ferrer
Dear Thomas, Alternatively you can try shooting on crystals in the drop, in situ. So fishing, no cryo. But potentially high radiation damage. Can be considered if you have enough crystals, and if your crystallization plate makes it possible. Regards JL On 14/08/2018 20:58, Thomas Krey

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein Purification- reg

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Jin
Hi Amala, 1. Did you verify the sequence or the presence of the His-tag? If you were not the person for cloning. I used to spend 14 months working on an clone and eventually I was allowed to check the sequence and verify the expression of His-tag by Western-Blot. There was no his-tag. 2. You can

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Jin
I just give an example of oil. Indeed, paraffin is also a very good option. In some cases (<=5% alcohol). Here is the difference I observed between paraffin and paratone oil. 1. Paraffin oil has low viscosity. Paratone oil is too sticky with high viscosity. Sometimes, I mix them with different

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Loll
I second (third?) what Tommi and Kevin said about using an oil to cover the drop to slow evaporation (I like paraffin for this—not too viscous). Here’s an additional nuance: Saturate the oil with the alcohol first, before using it to cover the drop. > On 14 Aug 2018, at 2:58 PM, Thomas Krey

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Jin
Hi Thomas, This is usual when high volatile solvent is used in crystallization (membrane or glycoproteins). The crystal may looks very nice with sharp edges. When you open the cover glass, you may see a very thin film formed on the hang-on drops. Once you touch the drop, then crystals move very

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Petri Kursula
Hi, you could try picking in the cold room. Provided the temperature change does not kill the crystals, this sometimes worked fine for me in similar cases. Petri Petri Kursula -- Professor Department of Biomedicine University of Bergen, Norway http://www.uib.no/en/rg/petrikursula

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Kajander, Tommi A
Hi, One way is to cover the drop with e.g. paraffin oil (to prevent evaporation) and fish it out in the oil. Have had luck with that in some cases. Tommi On 14 Aug 2018, at 22:09, Bonsor, Daniel mailto:dbon...@som.umaryland.edu>> wrote: I have had some luck with adding ~5-10ul of 60%-70%

Re: [ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Bonsor, Daniel
I have had some luck with adding ~5-10ul of 60%-70% dilution of the reservoir to the drop. The larger volume of the drop appears to slow down the whizzing of the crystals and allows you to get a few crystals. Though it still occurs. You could also cool the area down or move into the cold room

[ccp4bb] Fishing crystals from volatile solvent as precipitant

2018-08-14 Thread Thomas Krey
Dear crystallization experts, We have 3D protein crystals grown from a microseed matrix screening vapor diffusion experiment in either 15% (v/v) Reagent alcohol HEPES Na pH 7.5 0.2 M MgCl2 or in 27% Isopropanol 0.18 M MgCl2 90 mM HEPES Na pH 7.5 10% Glycerol Upon opening the corresponding

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein Purification- reg

2018-08-14 Thread Rajnandani Kashyap
Dear Amala Please increase NaCl concentration to 200mM from 50mM. That can help you out by increasing affinity of your protein to bead and will delay the elution time. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 7:20 PM amala mathimaran wrote: > Dear All > > I am working with HIS – tag protein in N-terminal (hexa

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread ferrer
On 14/08/2018 12:27, Careina Edgooms wrote: Cryoprotectant was 50% PEG just added to the buffer that it crystallised in. It crystallised under batch. which kind of batch plate ? Some are not suitable to in situ. JL On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 12:11:17 PM GMT+2, Hughes, Jon wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread ferrer
Hi Did you try them at room temp, in situ (straight in the plate). We observe that time to time on our beamline, when just harvesting, not mentioning cryo protection, is enough to loose all diffraction. It-s rare but happens. Regards JL On 14/08/2018 11:58, Careina Edgooms wrote: I got

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein Purification- reg

2018-08-14 Thread Manjula Ramu
Hello Amala, Usually Ni-NTA won't have this kind of problem of binding. Probably your protein is have interaction with hexagon his tag which is affecting its affinity towards beads. You can try putting tag in C- terminal end of the protein. On Mon, 13 Aug 2018, 8:02 pm Artem Evdokimov, wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that don’t diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
It does happen that “beautiful” crystals have no diffraction. Here is an example : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022283691906078 In my experience, crystals are fairly stable. But not always: crystals of human endothelial nitric oxide synthase or inducible nitric oxide

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread zaigham mahmood khan
Hey Careina I had once experience the same phenomenon. No diffraction at all. That did not make any sense to me. So i dipped the "empty" loop in the water, and flash froze the loop in liquid nitrogen. Once exposed to X-ray, there was no ice rings... Eventually, it turned out that system had a

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Rangana Warshamanage
Hi Careina, Some other things to check for: Where did you measure the crystal, on a home source or at a synchrotron? if at a synchrotron, try to put bit more flux and see whether you see any diffraction? Also check the beam and your crystal alignment. Rangana On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:15 PM,

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Andreas Forster
Hi Careina, if you don't have grey hair (available in the lab), you can still mount crystals at room temperature. With a MiTeGen RT kit, very little skill is required to test crystal diffraction or even collect entire data sets at room temperature.

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Tom Peat
?We have some crystals that diffract well when fresh (less than one week old) but lose almost all diffraction by the end of 2 weeks, so age can matter. One crystals are in liquid nitrogen, they should be safe from further degradation, but may suffer from ice contamination. cheers, tom Tom

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Harry Powell
Hi One other thing to try that someone with grey hair in your lab might know about - mount a "crystal" in a capillary and see if it diffracts at room temp. As long as you have a source and detector in your home lab, there's no need to go to a synchrotron and use their in situ facilities.

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread fourati zaineb
Dear Careina, Unfortunately there is no direct connection between nice looking crystals and good diffraction. Sometimes ugly crystals can diffract well while nice ones don’t.  You may try crystal dehydration ; it allows to remove excess of solvent and change crystal packing which can

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Careina, you could use the old crystals, that did not diffract, for microseeding to regrew nicer crystals. Once you have them, try to use them as quickly as possible. Three weeks can be a long time for crystals. Storage in liquid nitrogen should not be the problem. Best, Tim On

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Careina Edgooms
Cryoprotectant was 50% PEG just added to the buffer that it crystallised in. It crystallised under batch. On Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 12:11:17 PM GMT+2, Hughes, Jon wrote: #yiv2688348338 #yiv2688348338 -- _filtered #yiv2688348338 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Elspeth Garman
Yes, essential to test at room temperature without changing their buffer medium before getting worried! If they don’t diffract at RT, they are very very unlikely to diffract at cryotemperatures, whatever you do to them before hand! Best wishes Elspeth From: CCP4 bulletin board

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Hughes, Jon
maybe it's the cryobuffer that's the problem (you didn't mention it). you could try to fish the crystals with minimal liquid attached by mounting them in oil rather than a cryobuffer. or you could test the native diffraction "in situ" (at room temperature in the drop): quite a few beamlines

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Nikolas
Hello Careina, Please send pics or didn't happen. Anyway, in my very short experience, ugly crystals can diffract better than beautiful ones. But have you checked first if they were protein crystals or not? Best of luck, Nikk On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, 11:59 Careina Edgooms, <

[ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(

2018-08-14 Thread Careina Edgooms
I got the most beautiful crystals I have ever seen and they don't diffract at all. Not poor diffraction, NO diffraction. Anyone know why this could be and how I can go about fixing it? I had three beautiful crystals and not one diffracted. I did leave them in the drop for about 3 weeks before

[ccp4bb] SPring-8/CCP4 workshop on data collection and structure solution

2018-08-14 Thread Charles Ballard - UKRI STFC
Dear All 10 days to the registration closure for the second CCP4/Spring-8 (RIKEN) workshop running from 1-6 October 2018. This workshop will cover data collection, processing and structure solution. Details are available at http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/schools/Japan-2018 , with more to follow.

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral position in cryo-EM at NNF-CPR, University of Copenhagen

2018-08-14 Thread Nicholas M I Taylor
Dear all, I would like to bring to your attention a postdoctoral position in my research group at NNF-CPR, University of Copenhagen, to study the structure and function of contractile injection systems targeting eukaryotic cells. The position is fully funded and is for 2 years in the first