Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
WTF is right. How did you pick today to come out of the woods? You can join the new govt, if you are willing to accept some conditions... M Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WTF?  I picked a fine time to show up again out of the blue, eh?  Just my luck. By the way .. what makes you think I ha

RE: Wassup party peoples?

2004-05-28 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Well it's about friggin time you showed your face around here again you sweater knitting evil President! :P What else has been happening?? You gonna step back into the presidential scene here or what? Cheers, Erika Sporting a new Todd Back For President Button ... ---

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
I know!!! I thought your ears must of been burning so you came back! :D Either that or you wanted to claim the reward ... Cheers, Erika >>| From: Todd >>| >>| WTF?  I picked a fine time to show up again out of the >>| blue, eh?  Just my luck. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription

Re: Wassup party peoples?

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Welcome back Prez Todd., We were just divvying the cabinet posts between some of us. I hereby resign  in  favour of Pres Todd. That's great news. In terms of employment at least there have been a lot of changes. larry At 09:05 PM 5/28/2004, you wrote: >After over 2 years of being out of the CF

Re: contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Jeffry Houser
I'm sure many of us have been there and feel your pain.   My bad experience is not w/ a porn site, but I still have an outstanding balance of ~$10,000 from a few years back.  The lawyers took care of most of the other cases.   It appears that every client I have forces me to change my habits.  

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
Snopes on the draft hubub. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Wassup party peoples?

2004-05-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
Oh oh. The black Suburbans are patrolling again. Mike H., Pres Todd, next thing you know Vernon will show up. -Kevin Todd wrote: >After over 2 years of being out of the CF scene, I am once again employed >full time doing CF development and couldn't be happier.  Work was hard to >come by for the

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Todd
WTF?  I picked a fine time to show up again out of the blue, eh?  Just my luck. By the way .. what makes you think I haven't tucked a few nukes away for such a rainy day?  hmm? - Original Message - From: "Michael Haggerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Wassup party peoples?

2004-05-28 Thread Todd
After over 2 years of being out of the CF scene, I am once again employed full time doing CF development and couldn't be happier.  Work was hard to come by for the longest time and I was really starting to get discouraged. Then, all of a sudden, this job just landed in my lap.  Funny how things lik

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
You don't want any job whose intials are SoS anyway :) And nobody listens to ya and ya have to whine to the news media all the time. Or is that just Powell? Wait though, weren't we just saying whining was a national characteristic? Like that parody of Alanis: I Am A Whiny Canadian Bitch. Dana >

Re: terror threat [Timeout?]

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
oh :) Yes, apparently I have neglected the cartoons in my study of American culture :) As for depraved ... well, you knew that already :) Dana >You're asking about the Tick. > >larry > >> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
am out of here until tomorrow folks. The two new ferrets are pestering the two older ones, and the grill is about ready for the steaks. larry >These two don't. They are so hyper its a bit daunting. If they want >something they'll climb mountains to get it.  Besides Toasty has >decided to go and

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
These two don't. They are so hyper its a bit daunting. If they want something they'll climb mountains to get it.  Besides Toasty has decided to go and try to beat up the cat. This is one ferret with an attitude. And the other one is worse. larry >I'm calling your bluff. You would do no such th

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
I'm calling your bluff. You would do no such thing, because a) it takes effort, 2) you would have to move in order to do that and iv) ferrets take after their owner. You have got to be the laziest Secretary of Labor this list has ever had. M "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sir,

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
>Sir, you have been served. It is your duty to take on this office >and all the doodies that come along with it. You will be Secretary >of Labor or join the despicable criminal Todd as a sombrero-wearing >rebel living in the hills pursued by our armies. > >M Careful any further threat and I'll

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
Sir, you have been served. It is your duty to take on this office and all the doodies that come along with it. You will be Secretary of Labor or join the despicable criminal Todd as a sombrero-wearing rebel living in the hills pursued by our armies. M "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No more than 15 minutes after stapling up the chair, then Toasty decides to try and get through the canvas and staples. Darn, and here I was thinking I was smarter than the ferrets. Go figure. Labour Secretary. Still too much work. How about Secretary of Laziness. larry >There you go, ladies a

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
Oh yeah, I almost forgot - with this new system for assigning rank to the citizens of CF-Community, Todd is no longer the legitimate authority and our new regime considers him a criminal. There is a $13 + expenses reward for bring him in dead (not to exceed $14). M Michael Haggerty <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Need a Flash drawing program widget

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Didn't figleaf develop something like that? You might want to look through their site. larry >I just got a project to create an online activity that is a basic drawing >program. Ideally I'm looking for a .fla that I can import for the project. >I've found a couple at Flashkit.com but they're kin

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
There you go, ladies and gentlemen, the next Secretary of Labor, MR. Larry 'yo-baby-whazzup' Lyons. M "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IF nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve. Its too much like work and this weekend I am too lazy. Just pass the beer (or in my case

Re: terror threat [Timeout?]

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You're asking about the Tick. larry >Larry, who are you answering? Do ya think you could leave sliver of >the post you are replying to? I usually manage to guess, but this >one has me baffled. > >Dana > >>Culturally deprived (or would that be depraved?). >> >>- ducks and runs - >> >>larry >> >>

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
IF nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve. Its too much like work and this weekend I am too lazy. Just pass the beer (or in my case rum and diet colas). larry. >We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs like this >Mona person coming in and dominating every convers

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
no problem I'll just send you the bill for the tutorial in the morning. larry >  >First consider this, there were somewhat more nations involved in the second >>world war other than the US (which at times is a typical American response - >>no insult intended its just a typical attitude I've notic

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
thx, so far I'm not sure. I just spent the laat hour and a half ferret proofing the comfy chair in the computer room. The ferrets decided to rip open the bottom on the bottom of that chair and so instant upholstery repair. sigh, and I was hoping to just hang out in the back and drink tonight.

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
that's a genuine conscientious objector. If you won't serve as medic, your objection isn't that you think killing is wrong, it's that you are scared to go, period. Dana >The ones that have always amazed me were those conscientious objectors who >did serve as front line medics or in similar positi

Just Got the Word (was RE: Back)

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
Just got the word. Someone has asked me to take over managing their MMUG. Anyone have any horrow stories to share? M John Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Name: John Stanley Rank: Lovecraft Country Bumpkin SN: 127.0.0.1 -Original Message- From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
WOO HOO :) I am suitably extremely honoured :) Dana > Dana you're gr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-eat! > > You are the Minister of Frosted Flakes for this list, and can bear the > standard of a blue and white field speckled with tiger stripes. > > M > > dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread John Stanley
Name: John Stanley Rank: Lovecraft Country Bumpkin SN: 127.0.0.1 -Original Message- From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Back Dana you're gr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-eat! You are the Minister of Frosted Flakes for this l

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
If this is in answer to me, money is not the issue. Dana >Remember also, they serve and with the GI bill and other stuff they mostly >get college paid for. There are a lot of advantages in serving. > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Need a Flash drawing program widget

2004-05-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
I just got a project to create an online activity that is a basic drawing program. Ideally I'm looking for a .fla that I can import for the project. I've found a couple at Flashkit.com but they're kinda crappy. Anyone know of any? I might even be able to use a Director file. -Kevin [Todays Threa

Re: terror threat [Timeout?]

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
Larry, who are you answering? Do ya think you could leave sliver of the post you are replying to? I usually manage to guess, but this one has me baffled. Dana >Culturally deprived (or would that be depraved?). > >- ducks and runs - > >larry > >> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription]

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
what's an unconstitutional war? As for your first question, hmm. I am pretty comfortable with World War II. The intervention in Rwanda, I think. I do believe something had to be done in Somalia and Bosnia/Serbia and all that... I am just not sure that we did it. If you are being invaded you have e

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
This is a very valid and highly honorable position. It's essentially the same argument that Socrates made when his friends offered to get him out of jail and out of the country. He said that if he accepted the authority of  the Athenian government before it sentenced him to death then he had to acc

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
welp that's the beauty of parenting; you raise yours and I'll raise mine :) I disagree but they are your kids. Dana >Lets remember I have two little boys of my own at home.  I will insist that >they serve if they want help with school from me.  Either that or at 18 they >can hit the streets. > 

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
Dana you're gr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-eat! You are the Minister of Frosted Flakes for this list, and can bear the standard of a blue and white field speckled with tiger stripes. M dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: can I be frosted flakes? I like to get frosted :) Dana >Cereal number? How ma

Re: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
Yes. Let's take back the politcal process :) On military service, I can see it is useful for the military-age population to be pre-trained. Not sure if it is worth the sort of consequences I saw in France. Dana >To me mandatory service is, in general is a good thing. > >One of its by-products is

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
can I be frosted flakes? I like to get frosted :) Dana >Cereal number? How many boxtops does it take to get the prize? > >-Kevin > >- Original Message - >From: "Michael Haggerty" > > >> We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs like this Mona >person coming in and dominati

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Ben Doom
Benjamin Doom, PFC (punner first class), Wheaties 12479! Michael Haggerty wrote: > Everyone else, name, rank and cereal number. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
Tim. He sounds hard up for some attention, with the requests for pr0n and all. M Erika L Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excellent Who shall I press first? :D >>| From: Michael Haggerty >>| >>| We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs >>| like this Mona person comin

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
In uniform.   -Original Message-   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:27 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: The return of the Draft in the US.   Just out of curiosity, would it have to be mandatory service in the U.S.   Armed Services or would bei

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Excellent Who shall I press first? :D >>| From: Michael Haggerty >>| >>| We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs >>| like this Mona person coming in and dominating every conversation. >>|   >>| I promote Tim to Sargeant at Arms, Mike Dinowitz to >>| Commander in Chief, Larry

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Angel Stewart
Newcomers have a  right to attention for the first few days :) -Gel -Original Message- From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs like this Mona person coming in and dominating every conversation. I promote Tim to Sarge

RE: CF positions...Atlanta

2004-05-28 Thread Philip Arnold
> From: Monique Boea > > The recruiter who got me my current position is looking for 2 > CF developers for another client in the Atlanta area... >   > Let me know if you're interested... >   > Don't know any details of the job yet, but it is in Alpharetta. You might try posting this to the Atlan

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
>My point was more how >we are fighting what are essentially unconstitutional wars all the time. >Even though I am willing to serve in them, I do have a problem with it, even >if it is just semantics. I agree with that part. My US history is a bit hazy but I always thought this is what happens. P

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
Just out of curiosity, would it have to be mandatory service in the U.S. Armed Services or would being a private contractor doing the same job and taking the same risks count? Is it being willing to take a bullet that's important or is it working for the government? -Kevin - Original Message

Re: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
Cereal number? How many boxtops does it take to get the prize? -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Michael Haggerty" > We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs like this Mona person coming in and dominating every conversation. > > I promote Tim to Sargeant at Arms, Mike D

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
We need ranks on this list. There is no excuse for noobs like this Mona person coming in and dominating every conversation. I promote Tim to Sargeant at Arms, Mike Dinowitz to Commander in Chief, Larry Lyons to Secretary of State, Eri*k*a to Press Secretary, Li (Don) Chunsen to Poet Laureate, a

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
The draft is 100% constitutional.  I don't think even the most liberal person here that has spent any time reading that document could argue otherwise.  You don't even need a war on to use it.  My point was more how we are fighting what are essentially unconstitutional wars all the time. Even thoug

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
>First consider this, there were somewhat more nations involved in the second >world war other than the US (which at times is a typical American response - >no insult intended its just a typical attitude I've noticed since >immigrating to the US). Poland, Czechoslovakia, the western part of Russia,

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Only congress is supposed to have the power to declare war.  In recent history this has been done purely by presidents.  Just one of my many complaints about how this government has ignored the restrictions placed upon it.  I would go into greater detail but most of the list subscribers have heard

RE: contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Jacob
Free access to porn site... WHERE? O.. nevermind At 11:41 AM 5/28/2004, you wrote: >Someone ought to start a "rate a client" web site that is somewhat like eBay. >Not that one wouldn't take the work, but one might adjust pricing or >estimates. >   a.. Indecisive = +10% >   b.. Great functional sp

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Harkins, Patrick
have a good one Larry! -Pat    -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry Have a good long weekend all, I'm out of here. larry Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
At 14:11 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Ok so here is the root of my argument.  When have we constitutionally >declared war in the last 50 years? The easy answer is never. The hard answer is this. I didn't know that there didn't need to be a declaration of war for a constitutional draft to start. I

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Won, I'm about to head out so I cannot spend the time that it would take to rebut your points. First consider this, there were somewhat more nations involved in the second world war other than the US (which at times is a typical American response - no insult intended its just a typical attitude

Re: contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Jacob
Exactly ;-) >Remember boys and girls, only work for reputable pornographers. :) > >-- >Michael Dinowitz >House of Fusion >http://www.houseoffusion.com >Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet > >-- >[Todays Threads] >[This Message] >[Subscription] >[Fast

RE: contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Someone ought to start a "rate a client" web site that is somewhat like eBay. Not that one wouldn't take the work, but one might adjust pricing or estimates.   a.. Indecisive = +10%   b.. Great functional specs = -10   c.. Free access to porn site = priceless   That being said, if anyone gets a cal

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Maybe, but it seems to me all that changed on  August 6, 1945. -Pat    -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry There are wars that are morally justifiable, and wars that are not. I think that it would be very good if those who make the decisions about going to war visit those who have paid

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
At 14:16 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >You're right in some aspects. But if you're defending your home, your family >etc. what else can you do? People like Hitler and Stalin don't exactly >respond to moral persuasion. > >Are you telling me that we should not have liberated the occupied areas of >Eur

RE: contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Ian Skinner
Remember boys and girls, only work for reputable pornographers. :) -- Michael Dinowitz That created such an incongruous image in my head that it caused me to Laugh Out Loud! (LOL spelled out for emphasis). -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA

where I was

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
For those who were looking for me the last 2 days, I was off line for holidays. Looks like I missed a lot though. Ouch, that thread is long. -- Michael Dinowitz House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet [Todays Threads]

contract from hell

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, money's so tight that I did the unthinkable; I took some work for a porn site. I was working on its security and some other stuff and let me tell you, never again. This guy had me on the phone while talking so low I had to stuff a cell phone ear bud so far in my ear I got an infection. He had

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Skeet shooting targets! Go for artillery or the Navy, at least you get to sleep in a bed a bit more often. larry > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:26 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The return of the Draft in the US. > >

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
That's the answer right there.   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:19 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: The return of the Draft in the US.   The ones that have always amazed me were those conscientious objectors who   did se

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
I want them to go airborne infantry, but any service would be fine by me.   -Original Message-   From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:18 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: The return of the Draft in the US.   But their service in that case would

Re: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Doug White
To me mandatory service is, in general is a good thing. One of its by-products is an awareness of your government, and you will be more interested in participating in it, via your vote. The down side is the US track record of using its troops for purely political means.  If 100% of the people had

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
The ones that have always amazed me were those conscientious objectors who did serve as front line medics or in similar positions. In spite or because of their beliefs they still went. larry > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:11 P

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread William H Bowen
But their service in that case would still be "voluntary" forced, indeed, but by you, not by government requirement. Would you also insist that they also pound ground? Or would voluntary service in the Navy or Air Force work for you as well? Loathe wrote: > Lets remember I have two little boys

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
You're right in some aspects. But if you're defending your home, your family etc. what else can you do? People like Hitler and Stalin don't exactly respond to moral persuasion. Are you telling me that we should not have liberated the occupied areas of Europe because of a few black marketers? Ther

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread William H Bowen
ermm...volunteer? As Larry has pointed out, the Army did a great deal of research about this in the 70s and determined that a volunteer Army is more effective, motivated, etc. The draft has classically overdrawn from the ranks of the poor because they were unable to find a means to escape sele

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
yeah like they pay you to kill people I mean umm.   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:09 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: The return of the Draft in the US.   Remember also, they serve and with the GI bill and other

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Ok so here is the root of my argument.  When have we constitutionally declared war in the last 50 years?   -Original Message-   From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:48 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: The return of the Draft in the US.   At 13:39 5/28/

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
pimp daddy mike.  livin it big in sin city huh?  I think my addy got posted earlier, if you need me to resend let me know, I still don't have it memorized. BTW I am a SPC, don't demote me man :)   -Original Message-   From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28,

RE: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
true dat yo.   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:39 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: terror threat   Tim,   Yes but you are under the UCMJ which does have that provision. The rest of   us are not so we are free to moan and

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
No.  The people that start these wars are elected.  It's too late at that point.  You go and do your duty, and you make sure you vote your beliefs. There have always been people opposed to every war.  People that refused to be drafted in World War 2.  It's nonsense.  Service is the cost of freedom.

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Remember also, they serve and with the GI bill and other stuff they mostly get college paid for. There are a lot of advantages in serving. larry > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:05 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The return

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
At 13:51 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >What about the Second World War, was stopping Hitler conscionable? > >larry Yes, stopping Hitler was conscionable. Yes, I found World War 2 unconscionable. The idea of having to kill someone to save lives, I find unconscionable. And while the reasons to go to

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Lets remember I have two little boys of my own at home.  I will insist that they serve if they want help with school from me.  Either that or at 18 they can hit the streets.   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:30 PM   To: CF-Com

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
ja   -Original Message-   From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:22 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: The return of the Draft in the US.   Tim?   Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hooahh.   good answer. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subs

RE: Some people...

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
oh oh pick me pick me.  I'll do it.   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:39 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Some people...   I like to think that we, either in the generic or us as a specific group,   have higher standards

RE: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Weren't you supposed to quit a while ago over some personal offense you took to the vibrator thing?   -Original Message-   From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:36 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: terror threat   I never said anything about agreein

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
What about the Second World War, was stopping Hitler conscionable? larry > -Original Message- > From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: The return of the Draft in the US. > > > At 13:39 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:

RE: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Vancouver was my favorite city up there.  Amazing   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:02 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: terror threat   Or Vancouver, or Edmonton or Winnipeg.   Regina is too sleepy for that sort of thing

RE: Food for thought... (Iraq)

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
A constitutional republic.  Where the laws are to control the government and not the other way around.   -Original Message-   From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:30 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Food for thought... (Iraq)   So.   You are say

RE: terror threat [Timeout?]

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Culturally deprived (or would that be depraved?). - ducks and runs - larry > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: terror threat [Timeout?] > > > hehe. What's the Tick? > > >"Your pant

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Won Lee
At 13:39 5/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >yeah it is. Unless unless it is an unconscionable war. There was a case to >be made for refusing to go to Vietnam in my opinion. Especially after My Lai. Please point out which war was conscionable? I find all wars unconscionable. The only valid reason I can

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Michael Haggerty
That's Agent Haggerty now, PFC Heald. Remember I moved up a bit in the world. (Also remember my need for discretion, so no leading questions.) So I went by a strip club last night and mentioned I have some friends in the Army and they were looking for DVDs. I told the girls I would send them dow

Re: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
these just don't seem like the same thing somehow. The humanitarian reasoning was more immediate and not preceded by claims later shown to be false. The usual criticism of Clinton's military policy is that he was rather too slow to act, isn't it? Though he did find it necessary to bomb something du

RE: CF positions...Atlanta

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Anytime. larry > -Original Message- > From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: CF positions...Atlanta > > > thnx This electronic communication, together with any attachments, may contain information that is lega

RE: A duck joke.

2004-05-28 Thread Monique Boea
LOL funny -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: A duck joke. > Three women die together in an accident > and go to heaven. > > > When they get there, St. Peter says, "We only have one rule here in

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Of the NATO countries, Belgium, Holland, Norway and Germany I believe have a 2 year conscription. larry > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: The return of the Draft in the US. > > > If

RE: Back

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
Sure did. BTW Hi Kids. Good to see you back in our company Mr. Haggerty.   -Original Message-   From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:37 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Back   Actually Tim said extra kudos to anybody who DID send adult material

RE: CF positions...Atlanta

2004-05-28 Thread Monique Boea
thnx -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: CF positions...Atlanta Monique, You might want to tell your recruiter about the cf-jobs mailing list that's sponsored by HOF (see the house of fusion web

RE: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Tim, Yes but you are under the UCMJ which does have that provision. The rest of us are not so we are free to moan and complain all we want. larry > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: terror t

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
yeah it is. Unless unless it is an unconscionable war. There was a case to be made for refusing to go to Vietnam in my opinion. Especially after My Lai. >hooahh. > >good answer. >  -Original Message- >  From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:41 AM >  To:

RE: CF positions...Atlanta

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Monique, You might want to tell your recruiter about the cf-jobs mailing list that's sponsored by HOF (see the house of fusion website). It's a specialty list for CF. Macromedia also has a web/news group for cf jobs as well, see http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?cati

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Ian Skinner
I'm not sure, but I think the "poor, stupid and/or unlucky" referred to draftees not volunteers.  There is an image from drafts past that if you had money, where smart (i.e. in college) or lucky (your number didn't come up or you didn't qualify) you could avoid the draft. That's my view on it an

RE: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
Tim, You volunteered that's something different. I was referring to what happened during the Vietnam War, when towards the end, only those who were too poor or stupid to get into college, or a protected industry, or who were not well connected enough, ended up getting conscripted. Volunteers are

Re: The return of the Draft in the US.

2004-05-28 Thread dana tierney
If you are going to have a draft then it should include everyone. The only country with mandatory military service that I am familiar with is France, and they apparently have done away with it since I lived there. When I did though I knew quite a number of kids who were forced to go underground b

A duck joke.

2004-05-28 Thread Lyons, Larry
> Three women die together in an accident > and go to heaven. > > > When they get there, St. Peter says, "We only have one rule here in > heaven: don't step on the ducks!" > > > So they enter heaven, and sure enough, there are ducks all over the > place. It is almost impossible not to step on

RE: terror threat

2004-05-28 Thread Loathe
For me it's in the UCMJ, Uniform Code of Military Justice.  It is illegal for me because he is my commander in chief.   -Original Message-   From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:21 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: terror threat   So where is it

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