Re: is the debate over yet? i took a nap.

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Judah wrote: Are free speech and gun ownership not achievements of human society? Or is the distinction one that you make between a fundamental human right versus a constitutional right? I thought that the Bill of Rights, in particular, was meant to codify a

Re: is the debate over yet? i took a nap.

2008-10-08 Thread Beth In Alaska
Health care is an achievement of human society, not a fundamental human right. We should provide what we can for as many people as we can, but the second you call it a human right, you open the courts to endless human rights violations lawsuits over access. That is a guaranteed way to

Re: is the debate over yet? i took a nap.

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Beth wrote: I don't agree at all, that basic primary care shouldn't be a right of every citizen in america. It would probably save billions because preventative care can prevent more expensive, chronic illness. I agree that we ought to have a goal of

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
For me it was a year ago. I was big into hunting elk and moose in HS when I lived in Wyoming, but now I like birds. Quail and phesant are the order of the day. And I eat all that I kill. I have never hunted for sport. Always for food to eat. Bruce On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Dana wrote:

Re: Mysterious Connections

2008-10-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: you know ... you are right. I was once assigned to rught a pper onw whethre Karl Marx or Sigmund Freud would have done Virginia Woolf more good. This mean (gasp) that I have read Das Kapital. I have a copy on the book shelf next to my other 'books to kill for': the bible,

Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39600/135/ Los Angeles (CA) – We finally got some hands on time with the Fusion-io solid state drive and it definitely doesn't disappoint. This PCI Express card contains 160 gigabytes and up of insanely fast flash memory and will turn your computer into a

Re: Fweeedom!! Fwweeedom! bark bark woof woof!

2008-10-08 Thread G Money
That's awesome. Beagle's are smart pupsand cute as hell. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5f8yWh-Msw :-) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: I need a joke

2008-10-08 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
that was a good one! thanks Do you know the difference between Congress and a porcupine? With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: I need a joke

2008-10-08 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
woohoo, sounds beautiful. you are not that far from me as i am in charlotte. thanks for the joke! i wish i could get a gmail, but all those web mail sites are blocked from work. we can only work from work lol. thanks again! ttfn ~~ steph Heya Stephenie with an E! Things are fine fine... lots

Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE6_jGBlDc *snicker* *sneaks off* ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f

Re: Fweeedom!! Fwweeedom! bark bark woof woof!

2008-10-08 Thread Erika L. Walker
Brilliant! On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5f8yWh-Msw :-) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

Re: I need a joke

2008-10-08 Thread G Money
I'd go crazy if I could only work from work :) On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Stephenie Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: woohoo, sounds beautiful. you are not that far from me as i am in charlotte. thanks for the joke! i wish i could get a gmail, but all those web mail sites are blocked

Re: I need a joke

2008-10-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Do you know the difference between Congress and a porcupine? With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside. that was a good one! thanks An old man and his son were driving down a country lane. The man saw a bunch of round hay bales in a field and commented, See that hay? It's getting so

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
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Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread G Money
Al Davis would certainly agree with you... Supa fan! On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a technogelical I'm a one-issue voter when it comes to overhead projectors. Gotta have 'em. An overhead projector in every home!

Re: ignore this message

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
*chuckles quietly* 2008/10/7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is this the same Won from 2004? the big Yankees fan? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

Re: Made it to PB

2008-10-08 Thread Tony
m chai and flat bread sounds awesome... be safe and have fun!! -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cleared it with command and they have no problem

Fweeedom!! Fwweeedom! bark bark woof woof!

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5f8yWh-Msw :-) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive:

Re: Made it to PB

2008-10-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
seriously would love to paint some of the landscapes there. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive:

RE: wow did you see the Asian markets?

2008-10-08 Thread Jacob
Even with the rate cuts, the DOW in pre market trading is down almost 200 points. That's not good. If the rate cut does not help, there is nothing else the govt can do. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:46 PM To:

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-08 Thread Jacob
Today.. hmmm.. hard one. I say around 9400. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Yes, yes you were! :P Get it right next time. Where's it gonna close

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Wow. Context is way out the window on that. 13k from oil lobbyists? Out of how many hundreds of millions? I can go on but to do so would label me as a Palin supporter rather than someone who finds words without context like Abdul the dead terrorist - location, location, location. On Wed, Oct

Re: Made it to PB

2008-10-08 Thread Erika L. Walker
Excellent info Bruce! Look forward to your observations whilst you are there. We're just a bunch of manic information starved weirdos. :) Well at least I am. Thanks for everything Bruce. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cleared it with command and they

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
*chuckle* That's one point. What about the other 20? 2008/10/8 Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow. Context is way out the window on that. 13k from oil lobbyists? Out of how many hundreds of millions? I can go on but to do so would label me as a Palin supporter rather than someone who

FW: ignore this message

2008-10-08 Thread Won Lee
So, how was wall street? It was good while it lasted. The company I worked for went through some mergers with the eventually buyers being Lehman. Oh No's! I wasn't involved with Lehman in anyway though. I tried to get a job on another desk with no results due to the massive talent pool I had

RE: ignore this message

2008-10-08 Thread Won Lee
Yes, that is me. Although the last time I went to go see a Yankees Redsox game at the Stadium was probably around 2005. Not a coincidence that was also the last year I got free tickets. Yankee's are so frustrating. They are so wasteful with all their resources although the young pitching

Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
Nope, I prefer the straight-ahead variety. Not that overhead/skew the aspect ratio of the poor overhead types. (and if you don't have space for a shark-infested pit so no one walks through the light, you shouldnt have a projector in the first place) On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:40 AM, G Money [EMAIL

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
the end of it is what gives me chills down my neck. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *chuckle* That's one point. What about the other 20? 2008/10/8 Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow. Context is way out the window on that. 13k from oil lobbyists? Out

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Tony
i heard she is F**KING Matt Damon! -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE6_jGBlDc *snicker* *sneaks off*

Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread Tony
DWEEB thats all he is, is a fucking dweeb. im over him s much. mccain is suck a fucktard its redonkulous... just dumb. its sooo clear who is going to win... so damn clear :) -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Oct 8,

RE: wow did you see the Asian markets?

2008-10-08 Thread Won Lee
Actually Interest Rate cuts was the last thing anyone wanted to see. There were several arguments for this. 1) Rate cuts means cheaper money. A cute makes money cheap for everyone not just the companies that need it. There were several commodity speculators that have access to that cheap

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Deanna Schneider
Okay, I usually stay out of the this politico stuff. But, I just have to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdCYlHVC70 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
JJ wrote: Nope, I prefer the straight-ahead variety. Not that overhead/skew the aspect ratio of the poor overhead types. That's why Overhead Projectors evolved keystone. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
My mother was a stripper, not a snow mobile racer. I'm not sure if that's important or not. From what I remember from traveling up there, that would make her even more popular than snowmobile racing. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
For me it was a year ago. I was big into hunting elk and moose in HS when I lived in Wyoming, but now I like birds. Quail and phesant are the order of the day. And I eat all that I kill. I have never hunted for sport. Always for food to eat. Growing up in Manitoba, I hunted from age 12 through

Re: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
The catch is that one of these drives , a 160GB version, costs about US$1000.00 *sigh* Patience. The price will fall. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

Re: ignore this message

2008-10-08 Thread Crow T. Robot
Well welcome back! I will not badmouth the Yankees, they do that enough themselves lately. =) The things you say are enough. BTW, this is the same person that bet you to put the Yankees are the worst team ever or whatever. Why you back in the CF world? Bored? Funny, we have some old faces

Interesting links on Obama and socialism

2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
Most people who watch the list are firmly planted for a candidate so I am sure no one will change their mind over this. It will probably lead to some vivid discussion though. Obama has been accused of being a Marxist, socialist, communist. That accusation has been denied adamantly. The link

Re: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Greg Morphis
True.. I remember looking at a catalog and hard drives capacity was something like $100 per gig.. there's probably people older on the list that know of worse times. It might take a while to come down in prices but not as long as it use to. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Barnes [EMAIL

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Dane wrote: thought I heard Palin was in favor of shooting moose from a helicopter of something of the kind. Barbaric practice and yeah I know it isnt field dressing Moose, wolves, et al. There's a great youtube out there of it.

Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
Who us this McCain character Weeg mentions? Did he invent the ceiling mount brackets? If so, I agree with Tony. It is clear that the wall mounted projectors are so going to win. It is obvious. It is manifest destiny. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JJ

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: right :) I am not one to jeer as I have never hunted anything and don't plan to start, but when was the last time you filled something and ate it? If you don't count fish, probably a decade ago. I used to be a big grouse and pheasant hunter. Had a gun rack on my mountain bike.

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread G Money
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I only get my grass-fed beef from Maverick Ranch, but Im McCain has a ranch that sells beef..? -- Every monkey needs alone time To eat bananas in the sunshine

Re: Mysterious Connections

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Anyone in Boston? Is the Communist Book Store in Harvard Square still open? I have been over that way in years, but I would imagine that would be a place to find it. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Jochem wrote: ** Private ** wrote: you know ... you are right. I was once assigned to rught a

RE: ignore this message

2008-10-08 Thread Won Lee
Ahh hi. I'm back for a lot of reasons; the greatest being that I couldn't get another job on the Street. -Original Message- From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: ignore this message Well welcome back! I

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread William Bowen
McCain has a ranch that sells beef..? arrrgh!... beat me to it! I hear the Maverick Ranch beef is the most Mavericky of all. -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher

Re: I 3 Overhead Projectors

2008-10-08 Thread William Bowen
An overhead projector in every home! All your transparencies are belong to us! -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: Sarah Palin - McCain has tapped me 94 times and I've only been at this for 5 weeks.

2008-10-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You tell me. Here's how - Who, what, where why when. Who is being quoted? If it's a quote saying that no one is closer to the oil industry than Palin and its the head of the Sierra club, you know what his bias is. Bush is probably a lot closer. What is the context of the quote? If the quote is

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Maureen
John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Ayers used bombs, now he uses words to try to overthrow the government by radicalizing children. I want to

cf9 logo contest

2008-10-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
i just found this. http://www.webbschofield.com/index.cfm/2008/9/9/Centaur-Logo-Contestmine sucks. but others might want to try.. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
You mean the Senate? So is Barack Obama, natch. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Maureen wrote: John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that? ~|

Re: Interesting links on Obama and socialism

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
That is interesting. I'd be curious to see what Obama has to say about it. Of course I don't really have a problem with a bit of socialist democracy mixed in with my capitalism. I haven't heard of the New Party or the DSA though, so I'm not sure what all they stand for. Corporate responsibility,

charges in the Palin email hacking incident

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Federal indictment for son of longtime Tennessee Democratic lawmaker: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93MDSE80show_article=1 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
You mean the Senate? On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Ayers used bombs,

Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Once again within the margin of error. On a geek note, look, it's a .dbm file! http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1575 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
But let's not pick on Democratic Senator Robert Byrd. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Robert Munn wrote: You mean the Senate? So is Barack Obama, natch. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

The Crime of the Century

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
The Crime of the Century: The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_crime_of_the_century_the_e_1.html If Schumer continues to go public with letters raising questions about the condition of individual institutions, he will cause havoc in the

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
I never heard of dbm before and I started with 2.0 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again within the margin of error. On a geek note, look, it's a .dbm file! http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1575

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Obama 52 - 41 (Gallup) Obama 47 - 40 (Ipsos) Obama 45 - 44 (Hotline) Obama 51 - 45 (Rasmussen) Obama 49 - 45 (GWU) Obama 51 - 41 (R2K) So that is 2 polls within the margin of error out of 7. None that show McCain leading. Pollster composite currently showing Obama pulling in 320 electoral votes.

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
dbm was still around in 2.0 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never heard of dbm before and I started with 2.0 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again within the margin of error. On a geek note, look, it's a .dbm

RE: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Duane
Paid close to $500 once for a 210 MB harddrive once :( -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives! True.. I remember

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Have you factored in the polling v. voting discrepancy? Obama's own campaign thinks he will show 5 points lower than the closing poll numbers, which essentially makes the race tied. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Judah wrote: Obama 52 - 41 (Gallup) Obama 47 - 40 (Ipsos) Obama 45 - 44

Re: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
I paid $300 for an external 5 /14 floppy drive back in the day. How far we have come... On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Duane wrote: Paid close to $500 once for a 210 MB harddrive once :( ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

Re: The Crime of the Century

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
ROFLMAO! Voter Fraud brings us back to Obama? With everything we now know about Florida and the Bush election, Voter Fraud brings us to Obama? Geez. It's funny indeed! 2008/10/8 Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Then there's the stories about ACORN and voter fraud. Brings us right back to Barack

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
And its really a shame that considering the two candidates that this race is still so close. It's incredible actually, but that's what I thought when Bush ran for a second term as well. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: The Crime of the Century

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Florida, you mean where Democrats bused old people to vote and told them to vote for the wrong candidate? Where the Democratic Party laid out the ballots in Palm Beach so badly that people voted for the wrong candidate? That's not fraud, it's incompetence. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Vivec

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread G Money
It wasn't until 3.0 that DB - CF, right? On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbm was still around in 2.0 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never heard of dbm before and I started with 2.0 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:06

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Dana
so would you use a helicopter? I am asking if you think thta is hunting. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me it was a year ago. I was big into hunting elk and moose in HS when I lived in Wyoming, but now I like birds. Quail and phesant are the order of

european markets - wow

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Wow, it's just getting uglier and uglier. http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
Quick google turned up this: http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/dbm The DBM file extension was used by ColdFusion 5 and earlier; newer versions of ColdFusion use the .CFM extension. I've built and worked on a lot of CF sites since 95-96 and never seen that. Just thought I would have heard of it.

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
There are several reasons this race is still close, and they all have to do with Barack Obama, not John McCain: 1. Obama is the most liberal candidate since McGovern. I'd say he is more liberal than McGovern. 2. Obama has no record of accomplishment in government. People are wondering if they can

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Scott Stewart
There are several reasons this race is still close, and they all have to do with John McCain: 1) McCain is running like he's McCain the independent, (the man I would've voted for) he's not, he's flip-flopped (again) and become McCain the Republican, with Palin as a throw away to satisfy the

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
thought I heard Palin was in favor of shooting moose from a helicopter of something of the kind. Barbaric practice and yeah I know it isnt field dressing I claim an overdose of RTMP. From what I understand Palin is very much supporting the Alaska state government's policy of hunting and

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
so would you use a helicopter? I am asking if you think thta is hunting. Never. That is not hunting. Alaska is the only place in North America where you're allowed to hunt from an aircraft. I was just complaining about the extra weight involved. I've never had to trek a moose carcass out but

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Are you referring to the Bradley effect? The idea that people will say publicly that they will vote for the black guy but then not actually do it? I've seen it mentioned but I think its a pretty untested theory. Just not enough black candidates of note to really tell. Or do you mean that the

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
I didn't have a problem with it then, and I don't have a problem with that sort of thing now. Some ideologies are diametrically apposed to our system of government, communism is only one of them. I like knowing things like that about people in positions of power. So using the same sort of

Re: Open a 750MB file in 28seconds. Load Wow in 3 seconds. Fastest SSD Arrives!

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I remember paying $300 for an extra 8 MB of RAM for my 486 back in 1996, I think it was. $1000 for a 160 GB HD doesn't actually sound that bad for brand new technology. Judah On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I paid $300 for an external 5 /14 floppy drive

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Judah wrote: Are you referring to the Bradley effect? The idea that people will say publicly that they will vote for the black guy but then not actually do it? I've seen it mentioned but I think its a pretty untested theory. Just not enough black candidates of

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
The samplings are always 5-10% more democrats than republicans for some strange reason. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Judah McAuley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you referring to the Bradley effect? The idea that people will say publicly that they will vote for the black guy but then not

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-08 Thread Larry Lyons
McCain is looking a hell of a lot like the exact same candidate right down to the core psychology: showing daddy he's all growed up. LOL! Another lame attempt to link Bush and McCain. People know who McCain is and they know he is nothing like Bush. Actually not. McCain had a lot of issues

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Scott wrote: this entire commentary can be flipped either way, it's a close race because you have two candidates who are more alike than they are different, they're barking up two sides of the same tree. And they'll both get the same amount done in

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
It's called the Bradley effect and there was not by any means consistent results in the primary. And no, not everyone is expecting it to happen again. It seems that people are pretty comfortable at this point telling polsters that they are voting for McCain, not Obama. Not all the polls are going

Re: Wow! Dude Knows Party

2008-10-08 Thread Sam
You're right: http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index.cfm?adfg=wolf.control Wolves and bears are very effective and efficient predators on caribou, moose, deer and other wildlife. In most of Alaska, humans also rely on the same species for food. In Alaska's Interior, predators kill more than 80

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
The samples are weighted according to voter registrations and historic turn out. Most of the polls have their methodologies posted so you can examine them. Which gets back to my earlier point wondering who is actually going to show up and vote. Obama has the potential to turn out record numbers

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
That's the number Obama's people are using. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Judah wrote: But I do not think you'll see anything close to a 5% across the board overpoll for Obama. Judah ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
more democrats are out of work slackers and college students with lots of free time to answer surveys :-D On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sam wrote: The samplings are always 5-10% more democrats than republicans for some strange reason.

the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
We have better debates everyday on this forum. Why can't the debate commission get out of the 20th century format? http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14396.html ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
We'll see how it goes, but I think that the Democrats are winning in a landslide across the board. I'm predicting at least 300 electoral votes for Obama, probably over 320 and the Democrats ending up with at least 58 seats in the Senate (including Sanders and Lieberman, 56 without). I could see

Re: Zogby - McCain 45% - Obama 47%

2008-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I haven't seen anything from Obama's people on that. Where have you seen it? Judah On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the number Obama's people are using. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Judah wrote: But I do not think you'll see anything close

Such a simpler time.

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Skinner
http://news.cnet.com/2300-1043_3-6245811.html?tag=nefd.gallery Photos: Cracking open the famous Simon Simon is a computer. Simon has a brain. You either do what Simon says or else go down the drain.--The Simon slogan, 1978 Simon is a computer in an '80s sense, I suppose. It has a Texas

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
Yes, but debates on this forum get confrontational at times, and downright belligerent in the worst cases, dropping to personal attacks etc. The moderator in these presidential debates have absolutely no power to control the debates. Or if they do, none of the moderators has wanted to utilise

Re: cf9 logo contest

2008-10-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
http://adlunam.com/cf9_2.jpg http://adlunam.com/cf9_3.jpg http://adlunam.com/cf9_3.jpg i like the lightning bolts On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just found this. http://www.webbschofield.com/index.cfm/2008/9/9/Centaur-Logo-Contestmine sucks. but others

Re: cf9 logo contest

2008-10-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
http://adlunam.com/cf9_2.jpgwierd google link On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://adlunam.com/cf9_2.jpg http://adlunam.com/cf9_3.jpg http://adlunam.com/cf9_3.jpg i like the lightning bolts On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: We have better debates everyday on this forum. Why can't the debate commission get out of the 20th century format? http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14396.html I would set it up like Russert and Meet The Press: * Triangular table * 2 candidates * 1 moderator The

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
The French had debates like this between Sarkozy and Royale, apparently they were very well received. I'd be for it. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Gruss wrote: I would set it up like Russert and Meet The Press: * Triangular table * 2 candidates * 1 moderator

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
Sure, like the world really is without the filters of campaign handlers and the press. We need a little real interaction. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Vivec wrote: Yes, but debates on this forum get confrontational at times, and downright belligerent in the worst cases, dropping to

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread William Bowen
I guess there is a fear of victimisation after? or during... http://www.newser.com/story/38939/dowd-dumped-from-straight-talk-express.html -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread William Bowen
The way the debates are now is really just a marketing presentation. and not a very good one at that... -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe®

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM, William wrote: The way the debates are now is really just a marketing presentation. and not a very good one at that... isn't that the truth. too many professional handlers, pollsters, media analysts, surrogates, shills, professional protesters, and all the

Re: the worst debate ever

2008-10-08 Thread Vivec
What was interesting/distasetful depending on how you look at it, was when McCain referred to Obama in a moment of anger as That one I think that if you let some candidates just be themselves, it would work to the detriment of the party.

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