RE: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
I don't even have a passport :-D -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif. I travel with my passport even if I'm only going to the corner

Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Maureen
Might wanna get one, just in case some states decides you need it to prove you're a citizen. When I think of all the trips I made to Mexico back in the 70s without one, I get really spooked. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I don't even

Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Might wanna get one, just in case some states decides you need it to prove you're a citizen. Soon enough you'll need a Visa and travel itinerary to leave your home state :-)

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Medic
How exactly does me noticing obvious bias in an article mean that I stand behind politicians? Jayzuz Sam, you really are a with us or a'gin us type of guy aren't you? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Jacob
Limbaugh talks out of his @$$... And if the Republicans are looking towards him or Palin for leadership, I am switching to a different party. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:27 PM To: cf-community Subject:

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Wow, you really compared a cop handling illegal aliens to an OBGYN doing heart surgery? So the feds have like 6 plus years training on asking someone if they are hear legally? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: The difference is that its

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
A Republican complains about Democrats abuse and instead of evaluating the complaint you dismiss because it's bias. That's sounds like you're protecting the Dems. BTW, it's a facebook page not the NYTimes. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: How exactly does me

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Den, You're having a battle of intellects with an unarmed person. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:42 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Sam wrote: -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons --

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:42 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: And now it's worse because of what he started? Which he didn't start. He just made it evil so now it's progressively more evil because of him? It's always been Evil.  Bush43 used FUD to push through, or get away with, a

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Someone's lashing out because she was bitch-slapped by Sarah Palin. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm telling you Denny -- you're bringing logic to a stupid fight. ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
I still have yet to see where the leftie commentators have outright lied about stuff...so I would disagree with that Kris. I think someone found 1 example from Randy Rhodes...whom I really have no opinion of since I never heard her before, whereas Beck and Limbaugh do it several times on a daily

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
I do find it entertaining. We can have fun dancing around with our thoughts while the other two act like spoiled idiot children. Can't really talk logic with them, they won't have it. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Dana

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Medic
You know Sam, we don't all fit into one of two little boxes. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: A Republican complains about Democrats abuse and instead of evaluating the complaint you dismiss because it's bias. That's sounds like you're protecting the Dems.

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
??? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: You know Sam, we don't all fit into one of two little boxes. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I guess fooling around on the side is a Republican family value. Lets see of the 75 Republican congress critters who entered congress in 1994, 15 resigned over sex scandals. Rep Mark Souder is the latest. What's even better is that he made a video promoting abstinence with the woman he was having

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Medic
Republican = 1 little box Democrat = 1 little box You think there are only two little boxes, and that I dwell inside one of them. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: ??? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: You know Sam, we

RE: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Unless I go out of the country I refuse to. I hope they would pull some shit like that, then I can mount a constitutional challenge to this fascist POS law and sue the living shit out of the government for violation of my civil and constitutional rights. -Original Message- From: Maureen

RE: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Seig heil -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Start switching bud ;-) -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck? Limbaugh talks out of his @$$... And if the Republicans are looking

RE: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
It's not much different. Cops have about as much experience and training in immigration matters as an gyne has in performing heart surgery and are a bout as qualified to do so properly. Ask any cop. Eric -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam, Before I got into CF I was involved in developing computer based training for what's now ICE. There is a considerable difference in the training of ICE officers and regular police. It also depends on where the officers are - i.e., Canadian border vs Mexican border, the NW Pacific border

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Ok...What half truths? I do watch them and haven't seen anything like that. When they do state something, I do tend to check other sources as well for info on it and have found them to be quite honest. There have even been several occasions where a few of them misstated things and the next day

Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Jerry Barnes
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Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
Ok...What half truths? I do watch them and haven't seen anything like that. When they do state something, I do tend to check other sources as well for info on it and have found them to be quite honest. There have even been several occasions where a few of them misstated things and the next day

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
I find that they are fair in that they will invite the opposition in...yeah, they will give them a grilling, but they also give them the opportunity to state their case. I find that the left is more researched and thus less inclined to falsehoods and mistruths. Listen to folks like Beck,

More on Health Care

2010-05-19 Thread Jerry Barnes
There's not enough name calling and venom on the list. A good thread about health care always gets the vitriol up:) Faced with soaring costs and budget contraints, Williamson County's health care district is tightening qualifications for those who apply for its indigent health care program,

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread G Money
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Listen to folks like Beck, Limbaugh or the fascists at Faux News and you find lots of instances of outright lies, mistruths, and statements that are very misleading. Mistruths...maybe. Misleading

Re: More on Health Care

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
The problem with doctor's rates is rarely greed on the doctor's part. They're required to carry malpractice insurance which, thanks to our sue-happy society, is insanely expensive. They're also required by the insurance companies to charge a minimum fee for given services otherwise insurance

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Yeah, I don't get the family values thing. What's it have to do with getting elected? At least they all step down once exposed. Try to get a corrupt dem out Like Rangel out of the ways and means. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I guess fooling

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Many Dems falsely accuse Reps of being racist because they implement a federal law. One Republican points this out. You slam the republican for being biased. 1) You have an amazing grasp of the obvious. 2) If you weren't biased against the Republican you'd have a fair opinion one way or the

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Show me your papers Done. What's so hard about that? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, Before I got into CF I was involved in developing computer based training for what's now ICE. There is a considerable difference in the training of ICE

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread morgan l
The open-ended potential for abuse, that's what. A natural-born citizen that is suspected of being illegal can be detained until proof that they are a citizen is produced. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This is guilty until proven innocent. Plain and simple. On Wed, May 19, 2010

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If you remember that Science article I posted a few days ago, that's typical of center and left/progressive -cerebral and data oriented, while right of center typically use anecdotes and emotion and one sided presentation. I suspect that it may be a thoroughly different cognitive style typified

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
2) If you weren't biased against the Republican you'd have a fair opinion one way or the other. Eh, not being biased against the Republicans doesn't mean you have a fair opinion. You're walking proof of that, no offense intended. Being biased against Democrats is no more fair. And yeah, like

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/05/06/olbermanns-absurd-defense-banning-dissenting-voices-show KEITH OLBERMANN: The premise of the guests is often misunderstood as some sort of political reinforcement, or a Keith gets only the guys who agree with him. I ask a lot of these

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
You're talking about Obie, Mathews and Maddox? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Mistruths...maybe. Misleading statements...absolutely. Outrageous opinions...without a doubt. Outright lies? No. They won't tell you that the sky is yellow (outright lie),

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I fthe politician uses family values as a cudgel to beat the opposition over the head then it is an issue. Souder ran on his family values on a regular basis. It how he promoted himself to the electorate. At the same time he was violating his own principles here. In contrast Rangel at least was

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
I hate to be the first ot throw out the insults but I'm left with no options. Larry, you are officially the stupidest person on this list. Get a clue. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: If you remember that Science article I posted a few days ago,

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Ah, maybe you missed the part that comes after: I don't have papers. They call in the OBGYN or whatever Larry trained for. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: The open-ended potential for abuse, that's what. A natural-born citizen that is suspected of being

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
someone like me whether I have my green card on me or now would not get stopped. If I looked latino that's a different matter entirely. Its a matter of racial profiling. But that seems to be perfectly acceptable to some. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Show me

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As usual Sam starts with the insults etc. Look Sam if you cannot argue on the facts then why bother you just come off sounding like a spoiled juvenile brat. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to be the first ot throw out the insults but I'm left with no

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread morgan l
No, you missed the part where the authorities decided to not accept the papers (CDL drivers license) of a citizen, and detained him until someone showed up with further papers (birth certificate). This was a natural-born citizen that was detained even though he had legal ID, because the

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Guy that cheats on his wife and lies about it not as bad as guy that steals my money. Especially when he apologizes and steps down. Unless of course he lies under oath. Obviously you're more comfortable with the guys that cheat and lie under oath steals money and fight for their jobs. On Wed,

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread G Money
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: If you remember that Science article I posted a few days ago, that's typical of center and left/progressive -cerebral and data oriented, while right of center typically use anecdotes and emotion and one sided

Re: More on Health Care

2010-05-19 Thread Judah McAuley
Those are all legitimate concerns and ones that were problems before health insurance reform passed. Oregon, for instance, didn't have sufficient funding to pay for its low income child and family insurance plan. We had to hold a lottery to see who would be covered and that sucked. Of course,

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Read the fookin bill already. It doesn't allow that. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: someone like me whether I have my green card on me or now would not get stopped. If I looked latino that's a different matter entirely. Its a matter of racial

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
has anyone ever asked you for your green card, larry? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: someone like me whether I have my green card on me or now would not get stopped. If I looked latino that's a different matter entirely. Its a matter of racial

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Okay, that's funny as hell. Can I use it? Against you; like tomorrow? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: As usual Sam starts with the insults etc. Look Sam if you cannot argue on the facts then why bother you just come off sounding like a

Dreamweaver has an HTML5 Pack for download

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
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Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
I hate to be the first ot throw out the insults but I'm left with no options. Larry, you are officially the stupidest person on this list. Get a clue. Er...Sam you probably shouldn't say things like that given the way a lot of your arguments come off. Glass houses and all.

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Medic
The fact that the article was Republican has zero to do with identifying it as biased. That's where you err. You think disagreeing with a Republican makes you a Democrat. Like somehow you have to be one or the other. Sir, you jump to way too many conclusions. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:47 AM,

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Let me try to understand your complaint.Enforcing the law can lead to mistakes so we shouldn't do it? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: No, you missed the part where the authorities decided to not accept the papers (CDL drivers license) of a citizen, and

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
I see behaviour and performance in the public office for which someone was elected as far, far more important than what they do or do not do in their private life. If I elect someone I personally do not consider whether they are married, divorced, white or black. You expect a certain performance

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
George will is cerebral, usually. So was William Buckley. I often don't agree with them, but... On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: If you remember that Science article I posted a

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Sorry, that was uncalled for. All the negativity has me snippy. I'm saying mistakes will always happen but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still enforce the law. If they need to add training so be it. I'm sure the local police wouldn't mind training for processing illegals over to the feds and

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I don't get the family values thing. What's it have to do with getting elected? At least they all step down once exposed. Try to get a corrupt dem out Like Rangel out of the ways and means. I believe they need to get

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread morgan l
Since when has something being disallowed prevented it from happening? That's why many of us opposed to this law oppose it for it's potential for abuse. Abuse, as in being applied outside the intended scope. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Read the fookin bill

Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
Yeah, I have heard nice things about it in a resort kind of way. I'm not really a resort kind of person though. But, word of warning though -- I spent a lot of time in New Mexico, where they do empty like noplace else, and I learned a lot of respect for exactly how far you can be from help when

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I should have reworded it, moderates more than left or right. The thing is that you pay attention to how issues are discussed, and the differences are clear, moderates tend to use data, present both sides etc. The extremes use anecdotes, and emotional arguments. As for the social issues, a

UK to become Net Exporter of Energy with ambitions renewable energy plan

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
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Re: Dreamweaver has an HTML5 Pack for download

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
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Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
I never said you were a Democrat. How did you jump to that conclusion? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that the article was Republican has zero to do with identifying it as biased. That's where you err. You think disagreeing with a Republican makes

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
As if Stupid User *could* finish a sentence let alone rebut one On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Someone's lashing out because she was bitch-slapped by Sarah Palin. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm telling you Denny --

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: In the US system it seems that someone could balance the budget, secure world peace, and solve global warming...but if the US public finds out that he slept with 5 women while married they would want him out of office.

Oil from Gulf enters Loop to Florida and miami coast!

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
The Oil spill is heading for Miami. ZOMG!! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-meteorologist-says-oil-enters-loop-current.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Shouldn't you be looking for 6,000 year old dinosaur fossils? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Kris Sisk ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I hate to be the first ot throw out the insults but I'm left with no options. Larry, you are officially the stupidest person on this list. Get a clue.

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
That can be said of all laws. Who should pick and choose which ones we decide to risk enforcing? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:01 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: Since when has something being disallowed prevented it from happening? That's why many of us opposed to this law oppose it for

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
But since Buckley died his opinions and research are no longer valid...or something like that :) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: George will is cerebral, usually. So was William Buckley. I often don't agree with them, but...

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread morgan l
No, drafting a law that clearly puts untrained people in positions to hold someone without evidence of a crime is something we shouldn't do. Again, we have a policy in this country of innocent until proven guilty, under which there are only a limited number of things that can cause someone to be

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Ian Skinner
On 5/19/2010 10:03 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness and even in the United States, at least 66 per cent of all divorced couples are childless. Reading this line gave me a seriously WTF moment. Of all the things I remember from before

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
Am I the only one who thinks those statistics are scary? Seriously though I don't think we can blame our politicians for the divorce rate. That's a problem with our society in general. The only thing the politicians could do to affect it would be to make divorces harder to get. Frankly that

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
yeah weariness is definitely something you inherit from children. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: On 5/19/2010 10:03 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness and even in the United States, at least 66 per cent of

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Dana
You trying to get me to defend Larry's statements? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: But since Buckley died his opinions and research are no longer valid...or something like that :) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: George

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given the schedule that most congressional reps and senators keep, if they were able to sleep with 5 women and maintain a marriage, they deserve a round of applause, or at least have somebody take away the speed they're on. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
What is your solution to the overwhelming illegal immigration problem? (I am sure you have a better proposal) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: No, drafting a law that clearly puts untrained people in positions to hold someone without evidence of a crime is

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Only when crossing the Canadian border. I look too WASP to be suspicious elsewhere. That said I have seen police in Prince William County stop people and demand to see immigration papers. BTW PWC passed a set of laws a couple of years that are the basis for the Arizona law. I'll have to dig it

Re: Oil from Gulf enters Loop to Florida and miami coast!

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
The Oil spill is heading for Miami. ZOMG!! http://latimesblogs.latimes. com/greens pace/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-meteorologist-says-oil-enters-loop-current. html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Oil from Gulf enters Loop to Florida and miami coast!

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
That dang thing's headed everywhere. If they don't get the leak stopped soon the whole Gulf will be fouled. What happened with the concrete hat thing they were trying anyway? That sounded like it would work for sure. ~| Order

Miss USA 2010 is a Muslim-American. The Right wing explodes with rage.

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
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Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread G Money
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: In the US system it seems that someone could balance the budget, secure world peace, and solve global warming...but if the US public finds out that he slept with 5 women while married they would want him out of office. Our

RE: More on Health Care

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
They also have to charge enough to pay the office staff that is required to deal with all the crap from the insurance companies. -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: More on Health Care

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Ummm...no...he has people on all the time that do not agree with him. Have you ever even watched him? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: No, drafting a law that clearly puts untrained people in positions to hold someone without evidence of a crime is something we shouldn't do. If it's going to be law then the people enforcing it will be trained. Not having the

Re: Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

2010-05-19 Thread Maureen
Good luck with that. I haven't had any faith in the Supreme Court since Bush vs Gore. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Unless I go out of the country I refuse to.  I hope they would pull some shit like that, then I can mount a

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Better than rush and Glenn who will tell you that the sky is yellow and that the idea that it is blue is just a socialist conspiracy tied to Obamacare. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Is

RE: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
In general you are right, wanting to do something about illegal immigration is not racists. That doesn't mean that the motivation by certain parties isn't racist...especially when you get into racial profiling like the AZ law does. The problem with the AZ bandaid is that it comes with a white

RE: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Who's Maddox? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:13 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck? You're talking about Obie, Mathews and Maddox? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM, G Money

RE: More on Health Care

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Medicare reimbursements actually vary from state to state...so no...no trend except for in Texas. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: More on Health Care There's not enough name calling and

RE: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Forgot about Ensign...when did he step down Sam? -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:13 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote I fthe politician uses family

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Maureen
It sounds better in the original German. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Show me your papers Done. What's so hard about that? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

RE: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...and what is to stop it? If you think that it is going to stop racial profiling, I have some beachfront property there to sell you... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: More on AZ Read

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
Nope, just mocking him On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: You trying to get me to defend Larry's statements? On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: But since Buckley died his opinions and research are no longer valid...or

Re: Oil from Gulf enters Loop to Florida and miami coast!

2010-05-19 Thread Vivec
I don't think it worked. BP is clueless on how to stop something this massive, and at that depth. They've never had something like this happen before afaik. They really need to be fined and be held responsible for ALL the losses and damage. Because the records show that they intentionally did

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Why? The purpose of marriage has changed as our society has changed. We no longer have to harness the wives and children to the plow to get in the crop any more. Nor do we need to have 15 or 20 kids to ensure that enough of them survive into adulthood in order to take care of us when we're too

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Maureen
What amazes me is that guys who look like Souder can find any one with whom to commit adultery. Must be an attraction to power, cause darn sure ain't sex appeal. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I guess fooling around on the side is a Republican

Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck?

2010-05-19 Thread Kris Sisk
Shouldn't you be looking for 6,000 year old dinosaur fossils? Heh, right. Because I believe the Bible I must also believe there were dinosaurs 6000 years agoget real. I realize you have a very jaded view of me because I admitted to matching some definitions of a fundamentalist and

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Maureen
Go after the employers who are hiring them. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Jerry Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote: What is your solution to the overwhelming illegal immigration problem? (I am sure you have a better proposal)

Re: Oil from Gulf enters Loop to Florida and miami coast!

2010-05-19 Thread Judah McAuley
The containment dome (which always reminds me of the Simpsons movie) didn't work because methane gas crystallized and clogged up the tube. They had use that sort of strategy before but never at the depths this oil volcano is at. The increased pressure and lower temps make the physics down there

Re: More on AZ

2010-05-19 Thread Sam
I was stopped on the Canadian border and held because we had an Irish couple with us. We nearly missed our flight but I didn't complain and neither did they. As for the Latino's being singled out, standing in front of Home Depot is usually the dead giveaway they don't have papers. On Wed, May

Re: Have to wonder about which family values the Republicans promote

2010-05-19 Thread Casey Dougall
Ian Skinner to cf-community show details 1:40 PM (43 minutes ago) On 5/19/2010 10:03 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness and even in the United States, at least 66 per cent of all divorced couples are childless. I can see how this fits... But

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