West Virginia (Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim)

2010-08-13 Thread Todd
I grew up near VA Tech. We were always taught that The song was indeed about Western VA. On 8/14/2010 2:16 AM, Maureen wrote: > Yeah..you're from West Virginia alright. > > All I know is that everyone I know who actually lives near the river or the > Blue Ridge bitched for months about the so

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Yeah..you're from West Virginia alright. All I know is that everyone I know who actually lives near the river or the Blue Ridge bitched for months about the song placing those places in West Virginia instead of Western Virginia..and just because a songwriter misplaces a geographical location does

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I am all for them growing a pair and telling the republicans to either be > part of the solution or go fuck themselves. > The Democrats are just as guilty of 'if someone from the other side of the aisle thought it up, its a bad idea' mind

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
Selectively reading, are you? Did you miss the part in my quote where it said that the guys who wrote the song changed things up to match what a friend said about West Virginia? The quote below says 'would seem more appropriate'. That just screams certainty to me. It does not say the song is not

Insane SGU (was Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown)

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: ... > Then, if the stars are aligned right, Grahamnesty  will lose during his next ... Speaking of the stars, I found another space-ish show to watch. I remembered somebody mentioning Stargate Universe, so said what the hell, and fired it up.

Anarchy (was Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts)

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: ... > "Full anarchy for everyone?" > > I can see the benefits of anarchy more and more every day. I say anarchy is all there /really/ is. Perhaps people can be effectively chained, but total chainage is just im-poseeb-lay. We are free birds,

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So Reagan was a tax and spend liberal. " If you say so. I never said that. "Excellent. What should we replace the income tax with? Nothing? " A national sales tax. "Full anarchy for everyone?" I can see the benefits of anarchy more and more every day. "You told me we need taxes but y

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You appear not to be paying any attention to either of those people." Whatever. You may not recall this, but Grahamnesty voted for Kagan and Sotomayor. Those in and of themselves are enough. He also voted for TARP. He is also a proponent of cap and tax (though he did back down due to mounting

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Amen. Finally something we can agree on. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > The income tax should be abolished altogether. No need for brackets. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Marginal tax rates are lower, in the US, for every bracket now than they > were under Reagan. So lets start there. Should tax rates be returned to what > they were under Reagan. If not, why not?" > > Lord no. > > The income tax should be a

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Only if you count Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman, neither of whom are > Democrats." > > I do. > > Lieberman was a Democrat before he was sabotaged by other democrats and had > to go independent. Meh. If Lieberman is a Democrat then Spec

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown "Doesn't seem to really matter, honestly. It isn't like th

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Marginal tax rates are lower, in the US, for every bracket now than they were under Reagan. So lets start there. Should tax rates be returned to what they were under Reagan. If not, why not?" Lord no. The income tax should be abolished altogether. No need for brackets. J - Experience hath

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Only if you count Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman, neither of whom are Democrats." I do. Lieberman was a Democrat before he was sabotaged by other democrats and had to go independent. "Republicans have a fairly coherent caucus. Snowe, Collins (and now Brown) are the primary exceptions to that

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Doesn't seem to really matter, honestly. It isn't like they were able to wrangle 60 votes for a quick, non-negotiable party-line vote. Ever." Thank God. An encouraging sign. Lock step voting by party (any party) by representatives from such a large country with so many regional differences wou

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Then why present it as news or certainty?" I don't know. Why? I mean, I didn't. I just linked to the article and posted his ten reasons. I thought others might find it interesting. In fact, I haven't stated any opinions on this list, pro or con. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I don't recall you complaining about it when the republicans were in power. > I guess it's only an issue when the dems are in power. I thought you only started posting this year. Obviously, the Republicans paid a heavy price for following

Life begins again tomorrow.

2010-08-13 Thread Medic
Rest easy my friends. The time is at hand once more. The premier league starts tomorrow. COME ON YOU BLUES! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-D

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
I don't recall you complaining about it when the republicans were in power. I guess it's only an issue when the dems are in power. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I am all for them growing a pair and telling the republicans to either be > part of the solution or go fuck themselves. > That's how we got the health care mess that 58% of the public wants to repeal and will be a primary driver of the mas

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2010-08-13 Thread Robert Munn
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Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
As nothing Israel does is right in your eyes, it's not even worth talking to you when it comes up in a topic. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Everything with Israel has gone right...it has shown them (Israel) for the > fascist assholes they really are. > > -Original

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
So you're saying Bush was behind the freedom fries thing? Somehow I doubt it. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think that was the Bush admin that was alienating France...remember the > freedom fries bullshit?

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
I am all for them growing a pair and telling the republicans to either be part of the solution or go fuck themselves. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama:

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Not coming to the table does not equal not being included... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown Wasn't

RE: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Considering we pay far less than most industrial nations who seem to have higher levels of satisfaction and higher standards of living...not sure where you have come to that conclusion. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:02

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
You're a democrat? I was commenting on the articles that point to democrats not wanting vouchers and speculating it's because they help minorities. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If I didn't want education, why would I have asked for proof? > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:16

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Everything with Israel has gone right...it has shown them (Israel) for the fascist assholes they really are. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
I think that was the Bush admin that was alienating France...remember the freedom fries bullshit? -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Bad feelings about how we are handling BP? We should be slamming the asswipes against the wall instead of kissing their asses. Sorry if some British pensioners lose out on their money, but that is what happens when you privatize your retirement and invest it in a company that lacks any moral fib

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Roberts
They won't because Obama is too busy playing nice with the GOP and conservative democrats are too busy on their knees under the desks of corporate America. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re:

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Did you read it? A guy works five hours a day collecting garbage and he rates his happiness eight of of ten. If only my standards were so low. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Don't spoil his delusion that Europe is a socialist over-taxed cesspool. > No one on that side of th

Woman on theme park ride has orgasm.

2010-08-13 Thread Vivec
Her: "Oh my god...i think I'm going to have an orgasm!!" Him: "Huh..? what...are you serious?" LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWsO0WBUfvc&feature=player_embedded Blame it all on the hard metal bar in the crotch LOL :-) ~

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Then why present it as news or certainty? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Spin, distortion and nonsense. Not a single empirical statement on the > list, just someone's opinion." > > Well, it is an opinion piece. > > J > ~

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Selectively quoting there, are you? Since the sentence above the one about the road in Maryland states. "The land features mentioned prominently in the song lyrics – the Shenandoah River and the Blue Ridge Mountains

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
If I didn't want education, why would I have asked for proof? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Sam wrote: > > The democrat's biggest fear is the education of their base. > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > "Proof?" > > > > > > http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_P

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Don't spoil his delusion that Europe is a socialist over-taxed cesspool. No one on that side of the issue wants to hear any reality about taxes. If you take away the "read my lips, no new taxes" rhetoric, then they also lose all their scapegoating and finger-pointing, and vilification opportunitie

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Maybe the Dems don't want to use the Republican playbook? Then they should quit complaining. As I said, grow a set or get the fuck out, but quit the whining. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> Until Senator Kennedy died, the democrats had a >> filibuster proof majority. > > For a while, yes, but that is in the past now, thank goodness. Doesn't seem to really matter, honestly. It isn't like they were able to wrangle 60 votes for

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
They can count on Brown half the time. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> Until Senator Kennedy died, the democrats had a >> filibuster proof majority. > > For a while, yes, but that is in the past now, thank goodness. > > > -Justin ~~~

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Wasn't the first rule of the dem controlled congress that they didn't need to include the minority in discussions? That would make your comment correct :) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Maybe the Dems don't want to use the Republican playbook? > > ~~~

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Justin Scott
> Until Senator Kennedy died, the democrats had a > filibuster proof majority. For a while, yes, but that is in the past now, thank goodness. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-C

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
The democrat's biggest fear is the education of their base. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Proof?" > > > http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB123897492702491091.html > http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/duncans_fundamental_dishonesty.html > > The s

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Well, of course you can. Have you ever seen a prosperous country without > taxe" > > I don't just mean taxes.   I mean high taxes.  The larger the better. > > Look at all of the successful countries with tax rates out of the > stratosphere

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
you mean like the "Happiest Country in the World" http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=4086092&page=1 On Aug 13, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Well, of course you can. Have you ever seen a prosperous country without > taxe" > > I don't just mean taxes. I mean high taxes. The l

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Currently, yes, but that's not enough to "ram" policies through due to > things like the filibuster which requires a supermajority to get around." > > > Until Senator Kennedy died, the democrats had a filibuster proof majority. Only if y

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Maybe the Dems don't want to use the Republican playbook? On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Currently, yes, but that's not enough to "ram" policies through due to > things like the filibuster which requires a supermajority to get around." > > > Until Senator Kennedy died,

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Trouble maker" Me? J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny - Thomas Jefferson on government ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Proof?" http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB123897492702491091.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/duncans_fundamental_dishonesty.html The second link is really nice. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in tim

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Well, of course you can. Have you ever seen a prosperous country without taxe" I don't just mean taxes. I mean high taxes. The larger the better. Look at all of the successful countries with tax rates out of the stratosphere. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms thos

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Currently, yes, but that's not enough to "ram" policies through due to things like the filibuster which requires a supermajority to get around." Until Senator Kennedy died, the democrats had a filibuster proof majority. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrust

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"How or when did Obama alienate Britain and France??" According to the author: 8. US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under the Obama administration It is hard to think of a single foreign policy success for the Obama administration, but there have been plenty of missteps which have weake

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "No way!  What we need is more taxes, sugar!  Bill baby bill!" > > Everybody knows you can tax your way to prosperity. Well, of course you can. Have you ever seen a prosperous country without taxe

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Spin, distortion and nonsense. Not a single empirical statement on the list, just someone's opinion." Well, it is an opinion piece. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny - Thomas J

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"No way! What we need is more taxes, sugar! Bill baby bill!" Everybody knows you can tax your way to prosperity. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/d

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
Umm...yes I did, obviously you did not. 'Danoff and Nivert then told him about a song that they had been working on for about a month. Inspiration had come while driving to a family reunion of Nivert's relatives in nearby Maryland. To pass the time en route, Danoff had made up a ballad about the

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Exactly The first line of the song is Almost Heaven, West Virginia. The second line is Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River both of which are in western Virginia. Did you even read the link you sent? Because it explains this clearly On Fri, Aug 13

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I posted an article a while back about his alienating our allies in general. I'll have to find it again. Till I do, a fast search gave me this post with 10 points concerning Britian: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100027838/barack-obama%E2%80%99s-top-10-insults-against-britain/ An

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
To be fair, West Virginia Tech would be some what of an oxymoron. DISCLAIMER: I live in West Virginia, I can poke fun. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you're just displaying your ignorance. Let me give you a hint, > Virginia in Virginia Tech, now wouldn't that refer

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
Umm...the song is not about Western Virginia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Home,_Country_Roads On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > In fairness to Sammy, tons of people mistake Western Virginia for West > Virginia.  John Denver even did it in a song. > > On Fri, Aug 13,

Re: wot: PDF headers

2010-08-13 Thread Medic
I second that. I've always had to use inline styles to get consistent results with cfdoc. And I'll tell you right now if you're planning on messing around with page-break-before, page-break-after etc don't bother. You'll just drive yourself nuts. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM, denstar wrote:

Re: wot: PDF headers

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
The standard advice is to try to include your styles inline, but I don't know if that will actually help. :Den -- Mathematicians have tried in vain to this day to discover some order in the sequence of prime numbers, and we have reason to believe that it is a mystery into which the human mind w

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Larry loves to make fun of West Virginians yet brags about going to school 40 miles away from it. I just like to throw that back at him every once in a while. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Medic wrote: > > Speed typing. > ~

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Vivec
How or when did Obama alienate Britain and France?? The Obama presidency completely reset international relations which were at an all time low in the history of America under the bush administration. On 13 August 2010 14:42, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > It is the opinion of some (many?) that Obam

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
No way! What we need is more taxes, sugar! Bill baby bill! :Den -- If I am given a formula, and I am ignorant of its meaning, it cannot teach me anything, but if I already know it, what does the formula teach me? St. Augustine On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Sam wrote: > > THE UNSPENT STIMU

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
The unspent money has been allocated. We have to pay it back even if it's not spent. If you take out a loan and put it in the bank you still need to pay back the loan. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Ok, you obviously don't get the idea of unspent money.  So what do you not

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Getting one or two RINO's to vote for you after you bribe them is not bi-partisan. Many votes they can't even bribe the democrats to stay on board. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > The way the Senate is set up, you can't really just ram your policies > "bipartisan".

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
In fairness to Sammy, tons of people mistake Western Virginia for West Virginia. John Denver even did it in a song. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you're just displaying your ignorance. Let me give you a hint, > Virginia in Virginia Tech, now wouldn't that refer to

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Ok, you obviously don't get the idea of unspent money. So what do you not want them to spend the unspent money on? Education, infrastructure, war, immigration, housing, propaganda, or something else? Or is even that question beyond your comprehension? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Sam wro

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'll speak directly to the one I've been following the most and that is 8: US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under the Obama administration It is the opinion of some (many?) that Obama has alienated many of our traditional allies (France, Britain, Israel, etc.) for no reason at all. Ye

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Medic
Speed typing. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you're just displaying your ignorance. Let me give you a hint, > Virginia in Virginia Tech, now wouldn't that refer to another state. I > mean really if it were in West Virginia don't you think they would > have called it W

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> Don't the Democrats have a majority in the Senate >> AND the House? > > Currently, yes, but that's not enough to "ram" policies through due to > things like the filibuster which requires a supermajority to get around. > > Personally, I'm g

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Don't the Democrats have a majority in the Senate AND the House? If > the Democrats feel their policies are the end all, be all, why not > just ram the policies through? The way the Senate is set up, you can't really just ram your policies

RE: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Justin Scott
> Don't the Democrats have a majority in the Senate > AND the House? Currently, yes, but that's not enough to "ram" policies through due to things like the filibuster which requires a supermajority to get around. Personally, I'm glad that no one party has too much power to impose their will on u

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Well, when I lived 40 miles from NYC I was in the NYC suburb. Using that and the fact that it's Friday logic VT is a suburb of WV :P On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > you're just displaying your ignorance. Let me give you a hint, > Virginia in Virginia Tech, now wouldn't

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you're just displaying your ignorance. Let me give you a hint, Virginia in Virginia Tech, now wouldn't that refer to another state. I mean really if it were in West Virginia don't you think they would have called it West Virginia Tech? Get a clue. Or is your tinfoil hat on too tight again? On Fr

wot: PDF headers

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
I know, I know, I do actually work sometimes :) So I'm using cfdocumentitem type="header" to set my table headers. The formatting is totally out of wack. I tried importing styles and it ignores it. So I set cell widths and font sizes but it only works occasionally. What's the trick to formatting

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Damn straight. > > Looks like he is doing a great job in a horrid situation that the > Democrats inherited from the Republicans to me. > It baffles me how detractors expect to turn around or ignore the > effects of 8 years of someone's bad policie

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
THE UNSPENT STIMULUS MONEY! for starters If we don't spend the money we don't need to make cuts to cover the cost. Then there's the trillions for Obama care. Don't spend the money and we don't need to cut other things. Then start cutting salaries in Washington. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM,

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Vivec
Damn straight. Looks like he is doing a great job in a horrid situation that the Democrats inherited from the Republicans to me. It baffles me how detractors expect to turn around or ignore the effects of 8 years of someone's bad policies in a year or two especially in this financial meltdown. I

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Spin, distortion and nonsense. Not a single empirical statement on the list, just someone's opinion. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > More piling on the > One< > http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050412/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-10-key-reason

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > The one were Obama's department of education hid a report showing > how much success it was having? > Proof? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.a

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Sam wrote: > > So we didn't even start to pay the $Trillion health care bill yet we > can't pay our existing bills. You do know we will have to pay that > health care bill very soon? Because of 2012? > The stimulus money that was paid back is being spent on new

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
So I repeat my question. Of the money actually being spent, what you cut? Not the source, the actual expenditure. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sam wrote: > > So we didn't even start to pay the $Trillion health care bill yet we > can't pay our existing bills. You do know we will have to p

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Medic
I for one feel kind of bad for Obama. As an outsider it looks like he's doing a great job handling monumentally big tasks. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > More piling on the > One< > http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050412/the-stunning-decline-of-barac

Re: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Trouble maker On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > More piling on the > One- > You can read about each number at the link. >

The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
More piling on the One- You can read about each number at the link. The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Thing is that voucher programs rarely work." Which is different from public schools in what way? If they rarely work, that would be a great improvement over public schools and money would be saved. “The Comprehensive Longitudinal Evaluation of the Milwaukee Parental Choice Program,” released b

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
So we didn't even start to pay the $Trillion health care bill yet we can't pay our existing bills. You do know we will have to pay that health care bill very soon? The stimulus money that was paid back is being spent on new pork. The unspent money should be sent back and used to to pay down the d

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Maureen
Very little has been spent on health care, so the one trillion dollar health care figure is pure fantasy. Unspent stimulus money is "unspent". You have difficulty with that concept, or just refuse to believe anything non-Rovian? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Sam wrote: > > So we didn't act

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Medic wrote: > >> >> Sounds so easy, and cheap >> > > I've been described in exactly the same way. Easy and sleazy here! Slow ride, baby, slow ride. :Den -- For a physicist mathematics is not just a tool by means of which phenomena can be calculated, it is th

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
It's a lot like Shake'n'Bake. Relatively. :Den -- "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is,"

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Medic
> > Sounds so easy, and cheap > I've been described in exactly the same way. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archiv

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
Sounds so easy, and cheap On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:54 PM, denstar wrote: > > If we want school competition, lets um, have competitions!  In school! >  Fer reals tho- with fun stuff, so the kids don't even realize they're > learning. > > Somehow I don't think the math expressed below re: vouche

Re: a little apache help

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
How did you install Apache? You should just be able to uncomment the LoadModule bit, and it should be in there already, IIRC. Where was the mod_rewrite originally, that you copied around to try to get it to work? :Den -- ...the source of all great mathematics is the special case, the concrete

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread denstar
If we want school competition, lets um, have competitions! In school! Fer reals tho- with fun stuff, so the kids don't even realize they're learning. Somehow I don't think the math expressed below re: vouchers, equals a solution. :Den -- I have had my results for a long time: but I do not yet

Re: Oregon seeing a large number of glowing shrimp

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
So I guess that is a different answer than the radioactive boars overwhelming Germany at the moment. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Folks have been calling the agriculture extension in larger than > normal numbers to ask the question, "Uh, should my shrimp be glowin

Re: Insane GOP opposition to repealing tax cuts

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
I knew you would like it :P On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Entertaining would not be the word I would use unless if by "entertaining" > you mean "what a load of crap..." > > Eric > ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Piling On: Economists Call Obama On Universal Backing Claim

2010-08-13 Thread Sam
The school doesn't get the money, the state saves the money. If the state normally pays 10k, they give the kid a voucher worth 5k and they're done. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > How would schools get 5k for every student that leaves?  If they leave the > school, the

Oregon seeing a large number of glowing shrimp

2010-08-13 Thread Judah McAuley
Folks have been calling the agriculture extension in larger than normal numbers to ask the question, "Uh, should my shrimp be glowing in the dark and is it safe to eat?". Turns out that the answer is "yes". http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/2010/08/12/excuse-me-waiter-my-shrimp-is-glowing ~~~

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