Re: cowboys vs. aliens

2011-07-30 Thread Ras Tafari
according to my girl, it was prolly the only redeemable quality of the movie. really, it was that bad. like, the special effects, etc werent even cool. hard to believe spielberg had a part in this one. On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Thanks for the public service anno

Re: cowboys vs. aliens

2011-07-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
Thanks for the public service announcement. It looked interesting. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~

Re: cowboys vs. aliens

2011-07-29 Thread Erika L. Rich
I was going to say something along this line. Especially about Daniel Craig. Total Yum. Yeah. Yum. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford. I'd watch them read the phone book. > >

Re: cowboys vs. aliens

2011-07-29 Thread Maureen
Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford. I'd watch them read the phone book. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: > > do not. > and I repeat, do not waste your money. > > wow. > > as horrible as I've ever seen ~| Order the

cowboys vs. aliens

2011-07-29 Thread Tony Weeg
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Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Maureen
I'm of the considered opinion that they are already here and have been for many millennium. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseof

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Medic
Excellent movie though! Really really liked it. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:59 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > fooking prawns! > > > . > . > ... i kid... i kid... > > :) > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > > And by that I mean we know there are other races out there beside > >

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread William Bowen
fooking prawns! . . ... i kid... i kid... :) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > And by that I mean we know there are other races out there beside > Human...and they visited Earth openly. > > And maybe some of them fell in love and married. > > Would our Census Forms still have

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Gives whole new meaning to the term "Resident Alien" or for that matter "Illegal Alien" ducking and running, larry On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Suspect that Aliens would be labeled as a different species rather > than a different race. >

RE: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Depends if they come as corporate entities I guess hehehe -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: If we were introduced to aliens > There would be lawsuits claiming that t

RE: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Like I said before...I am still waiting for the option of "human on those questionnaires... -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: If we were introduced to aliens And by that I mean we know

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Maureen
Suspect that Aliens would be labeled as a different species rather than a different race. Census forms would be revised to indicate planet of birth, and all the anti-immigration bigots would be yelling for laws to ban inter-species mating. Heaven forbid some doctor treat a alien baby who doesn&#

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
and then a push for a constitutional amendment stating that marriage is a union between one human man and one human female. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > There would be lawsuits claiming that they don't qualify as 'Persons' > as specified in Article 1 of the Constitu

RE: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Justin Scott
> There would be lawsuits claiming that they don't > qualify as 'Persons' as specified in Article 1 > of the Constitution. If a fictitious corporation can qualify, why not a real space alien? -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldf

Re: If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Judah McAuley
There would be lawsuits claiming that they don't qualify as 'Persons' as specified in Article 1 of the Constitution. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > And by that I mean we know there are other races out there beside > Human...and they visited Earth openly. > > And maybe some of

If we were introduced to aliens....

2010-07-22 Thread Vivec
And by that I mean we know there are other races out there beside Human...and they visited Earth openly. And maybe some of them fell in love and married. Would our Census Forms still have Ethnicity as an option at that point? Would it be relevant anymore? ~~

Re: Supreme Court takes on hairless blue aliens in Utah

2008-11-13 Thread Larry Lyons
hat's all well and >good but now another religious organization called Summum, who believe >in mumification, pyramids and hairless blue aliens, wants to donate >and erect a monument celebrating their Seven Aphorisms that they say >were given to Moses but then Moses decided people w

Supreme Court takes on hairless blue aliens in Utah

2008-11-13 Thread Judah McAuley
d but now another religious organization called Summum, who believe in mumification, pyramids and hairless blue aliens, wants to donate and erect a monument celebrating their Seven Aphorisms that they say were given to Moses but then Moses decided people weren't ready for them yet and went w

Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!!

2008-09-11 Thread Erika L. Walker
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!! > > > > When are they going to actually start colliding particles? > > ~~

Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!!

2008-09-11 Thread Todd
The article I read said a few months to a year. - Original Message - From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!! > When are they going to actua

Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!!

2008-09-11 Thread Sam
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sammy wrote: >> Did you see it today? Isn't today Sept 11? Just another day I guess. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: [Cowbell] Aliens!!

2008-09-11 Thread Vivec
When are they going to actually start colliding particles? 2008/9/11 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Sammy wrote: >> Did you see it today? > > Some aliens must've fired up a hadron col

[Cowbell] Aliens!!

2008-09-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sammy wrote: > Did you see it today? > Some aliens must've fired up a hadron collider a 7.5 billion years ago ... - Six months ago, satellite telescopes spotted an exceptionally bright burst of energy that would have been the most distant

RE: ALIENS!

2008-06-07 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Beth In Alaska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:40 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: ALIENS! > > Now I've watched this one at least five times and almost peed myself > laughing each time: http://youtu

Re: ALIENS!

2008-06-07 Thread Beth In Alaska
Now I've watched this one at least five times and almost peed myself laughing each time: http://youtube.com/watch?v=h1Gt-GY2y0o&feature=related - Original Message - From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:

Re: ALIENS!

2008-06-07 Thread Todd
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U836OeNUyqg&feature=related - Original Message - From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: RE: ALIENS! >> Any follow-ups on this? I can't even find any

RE: ALIENS!

2008-06-06 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:24 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: ALIENS! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, May 29

RE: ALIENS!

2008-06-06 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: ALIENS! > > A video that purportedly shows a living, breathing space alien will be > shown to the news media Friday in Denver. &

RE: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: ALIENS! > > publicity stunt if you ask me. > > It it were real news, he'd take it straight to the media. I doubt i

Re: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Rick wrote: > publicity stunt if you ask me. > Exactly. Aliens show up here with no money and no job and then try to trick us out of ours by peaking their heads out of windows, filming it, and selling it. Well I, for one, am not falling for

Re: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Todd
day, May 29, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: ALIENS! > publicity stunt if you ask me. > > It it were real news, he'd take it straight to the media. > > Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most import

Re: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Rick Root
publicity stunt if you ask me. It it were real news, he'd take it straight to the media. Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/c

RE: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: ALIENS! > > A video that purportedly shows a living, breathing space alien will be > shown to the news media Friday in Denver. &

RE: ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Billy Cox
In other news, Ross Perot is reported missing somewhere in the Denver area. "A video that purportedly shows a living, breathing space alien will be shown to the news media Friday in Denver. "It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window,

ALIENS!

2008-05-29 Thread Gruss Gott
is authentic and convinced him that aliens exist. An instructor at the Colorado Film School in Denver scrutinized the video "very carefully" and determined it was authentic, Peckman said. "It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking i

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-25 Thread Cameron Childress
They both created it, but actually if we want to nit pick the US govt created this whole labor market back around WWII with a *legal* migrant worker program to support American farms during the war when so many farm workers were away fighting. Somewhere 'tween then and now the Govt lost it's grasp

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-24 Thread Maureen
The workers didn't created the uneven playing field. The companies that hired them did. On 6/23/07, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They would be forced to get off their lazy asses and mow their own > lawns, cook their own food, and ***gasp*** apply free market > forces (

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-24 Thread Cameron Childress
Technology/automation vs cheap labor is one thing. Technology/automation versus illegal labor (or illegally cheap) is another. Remove the illegal labor and I think the technology would advance faster, improving the US's competitiveness with both first and third world farms... -Cameron On 6/24/07,

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-24 Thread Dinner
What I was getting at was that we are competing, more so every day, with the rest of the world. And teh 3rd world, in some cases. So, if the better tech IS the answer (which it always is, but some stuff is hard to automate), we'll get there even with cheap labor, cuz the automation is only viable

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-23 Thread Cameron Childress
That's actually kinda my point - in agricultural areas where there isn't cheap labor available in the US, those areas have been automated. Areas with cheap (illegal) labor don't advance because the low costs farms have when they break labor laws. That, in my opinion, has been artificially suppress

Re: What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-23 Thread Dinner
Our tech is the only reason we've been able to keep up with the rest of the world, actually. See tomato picking, for instance. We'd be slaughtered by 3rd worlders with plenty of cheap labor if we didn't have superior (and keep producing superior) technology. It's sorta artificial, anyways. We w

What the USA Would do Without 11 Million Illegal Aliens

2007-06-23 Thread Cameron Childress
They would be forced to get off their lazy asses and mow their own lawns, cook their own food, and ***gasp*** apply free market forces (aka: innovation) to fruit picking which have been artificially held back for THIRTY YEARS due to the uneven playing field that illegal and underpaid work

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-09 Thread Scott Stewart
-Community Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants) i am looking for werk outside the design/dev field. if any one has any fun ideas let me know. right now i could volunteer at a public radio station or get a job as a bottler at a brewery

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-09 Thread Paul Ihrig
i am looking for werk outside the design/dev field. if any one has any fun ideas let me know. right now i could volunteer at a public radio station or get a job as a bottler at a brewery. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Up

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-09 Thread Russel Madere
More like plenty of jobs welfare recipients won't work. That's a problem with welfare. >Nope, that's why the illegals are here in the first place; plenty of open >jobs. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > If the illegals were not working them, then who would? Probably the poor. Nope, that's why the illegals are here in the first place; plenty of open jobs. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrat

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread William Bowen
'cause it's an easy hot-button issue. It's an easy way to ding your opponent when it is discovered that his nanny is an undocumented alien. illegals are comin' over the border and bein' a conduit for terrorism. A good friend of mine's wife is down in AZ right now on border partrol with the WA Nat

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So if most do come to this country legally, then way all the hub-bub about those breaking the law? If they are criminals treat them as such. If the current legal immigration system is faulty fix it, but how broken can it be if most immigrants are using it legally and successfully? William Bo

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Skinner
"So they, like my most of my family (the rest was native), did it all legally. Why shouldn't I expect current immigrants to do it legally?" What about the descendants of those that did not do it legally? Not everybody who arrived in the US in the latter half of the 19th century did so according

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread William Bowen
Fact is, most do. > So they, like my most of my family (the rest was native), did it all legally. > Why > shouldn't I expect current immigrants to do it legally? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
So they, like my most of my family (the rest was native), did it all legally. Why shouldn't I expect current immigrants to do it legally? >> BTW, how did your family arrive here in the US, did they follow the law? > >There are four major branches in my family tree, one (Bowens) arrived >in the C

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Dana Tierney
I just re-read -- ya. In a thread about illegal aliens, he said He knew five Mexican programmers and hired one. That was what I found so unbelievable -- illegal programmers. People who hire programmers are (generally) big enough to have something to lose in an ICE raid. Of course HR caught the

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Skinner
if he is a resident alien he is not illegal. If you don't realize that you should not be commenting on immigration issues at all. Dana You may have read some previous posts too fast Dana. He said exactly that, he hired the one with the proper paper work and reported the OTHER three that apparent

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Scott Stewart
age- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants) um, if he is a resident alien he is not illegal. If you don't realize that you should not be commentin

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Dana Tierney
d to a > citizen with a work permit. It was not an H1B visa, but he had a > computer science degree. I sent the illegals packing and reported > them to INS > > > And this condemnation of illegal aliens comes, mind you, from > someone > > who claims to have hired one.

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread William Bowen
> BTW, how did your family arrive here in the US, did they follow the law? There are four major branches in my family tree, one (Bowens) arrived in the Carolinas in the 1680s, part of some charter or another. The Hambeckens arrived in the 1850s from Germany settled in Arkansas. The Wilson/O'Conne

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
Because even if they are crappy, they are jobs in the US. If the illegals were not working them, then who would? Probably the poor. I know in Louisiana if you work as an iterant farm hand there is free housing and education assistance. There is also cheap or free transportation between regi

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Scott Stewart
22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants) > Scott wrote: > Would we be better

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Scott Stewart
veloper SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Sam

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Would we be better served by doing what we could to help grow the Mexican > economy, thus creating more jobs in Mexico.. > Not that I care, but why are people so concerned about Mexicans? In general, as Russ pointed out, they're doing mostly unskilled labor; illegally maybe, but

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
; >SSTWebworks >7241 Jillspring Ct. >Springfield, Va. 22152 >(703) 220-2835 > >http://www.sstwebworks.com > >-Original Message- >From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:00 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re:

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
>My last post on this topic, I have too much work to do to keep myself >completive in the current job market to spend more time on this. > >"Actually I think the solution is to overthrow the current Mexican >political system and replace it. However, that is the job of the >Mexicans, not me." > It

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Scott Stewart
: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants) Actually, I can think of one, the Republic of Texas. They also got smart and decided to secede as well. Conversely, Puerto

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
Actually, I can think of one, the Republic of Texas. They also got smart and decided to secede as well. Conversely, Puerto Rico has done everything in it's power not to become a state. Anti-statehood runs heavily down there, at least amongst the funeral home workers I knew and dealt with.

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > Working. > >> where are all the Americans? > > For foreign HBS grads. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread William Bowen
> What is Puerto Rico's status don't they keep > trying to become an actual State? They are currently commonwealth (upgraded from a US Protectorate). They get US taxpayer benefits (e.g., welfare, food stamps, etc.) but do not pay US taxes. And no, the majority do not want to become a state...go

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Great just what we need another "regime change". Has a country ever voted to be annexed? What is Puerto Rico's status don't they keep trying to become an actual State? > Actually I think the solution is to overthrow the current mexican political > system and replace it. However, that is the j

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Skinner
My last post on this topic, I have too much work to do to keep myself completive in the current job market to spend more time on this. "Actually I think the solution is to overthrow the current Mexican political system and replace it. However, that is the job of the Mexicans, not me." And what d

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
Actually I think the solution is to overthrow the current mexican political system and replace it. However, that is the job of the mexicans, not me. >"Illegal immigration is a problem." >A very complex one! The "gather them all up and deport|jail|shoot them" >approach is not even the start of a

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
> And this condemnation of illegal aliens comes, mind you, from someone > who claims to have hired one. > > >"They think they are special in some way." Or that many are people > >facing hard choices and doing what they can to bette

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
No, I interviewed programmers without papers. I hired one of the two that had papers. I reported the illegals to INS or ICE or whatever they call themselves now. I made an offer to one of the illegals, but he could not produce proper documentation so I made an offer to the next candidate. I

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Russel Madere
It was more a Cousin Tom, or is that Tomas, situation. I advertised our contact at the Hispanic Chamber said his cousin needed a job and that he had some friends who were also qualified. He sent me all of thier resumes and we interviewed them. I will say that the three illegals spoke excellen

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Nick McClure
Working. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And go look in top university grad school programs. You'll ask > yourself one question: where are all the Americans? > ~| ColdFusion MX7

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > Essentially immigration should only be limited by the number of open > jobs and university spots. > And go look in top university grad school programs. You'll ask yourself one question: where are all the Americans? ~~~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > > Remember the quota of H1B visa applications was reached in a single day > > this year. > > The number of H1B visas was severly curtailed as a direct result of > 9/11. As for the "lock up our jobs" argument, it's a formula for how to ruin our leadership in the world - basically

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> Remember the quota of H1B visa applications was reached in a single day this > year. The number of H1B visas was severly curtailed as a direct result of 9/11. Los Administracion Del Bush is directly responsible for that. It was not, I say again, NOT a response to illegal immigration. It was bl

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> What is to stop a programmer from crossing the border illegally? See, now the image I get is some white collar dude in a pick-up pulling up to a street corner in New York City shouting, "javascreept, perrrl, say ploos ploos, nada mas!" heehee -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just b

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
t: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants) Illegal is illegal. They came as students and were fradulently still here. They obviously have no respect for the law, they broke it to stay here. What is to stop a programmer from crossing the border ille

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
And this condemnation of illegal aliens comes, mind you, from someone who claims to have hired one. >"They think they are special in some way." Or that many are people >facing hard choices and doing what they can to better their lives and &g

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
Sorry. This story is so far from my experience as a foreigner in this country that I simply cannot believe it. You hired a programmer who had no papers? Why? > Then don't. > > Like I said, _I_ know 5. All had UNAM diplomas in Computer Science. > Only 2 had resident alien paperwork; 1 H1B an

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > I'm asking what if it were skilled laborers coming across in droves? We don't need people to come here in droves, especially developers, because we can just send those jobs offshore. And are. Without regulation. Here's the dilio: keep your skill set up to date, and watch trends,

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Skinner
"Illegal immigration is a problem." A very complex one! The "gather them all up and deport|jail|shoot them" approach is not even the start of a solution. "They may be hard workers, but they have no respect for the law." That is too large a logical leap for me. They broke emigration law, they ca

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Then don't. Like I said, _I_ know 5. All had UNAM diplomas in Computer Science. Only 2 had resident alien paperwork; 1 H1B and one was being sponsored for citizenship. The others had expired student visas. These may be the only 5 mexican programmers in the US, but I interviewed them and h

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I don't believe it. > What do you mean? You don't see them, or you think they are crazy? I > guess you have to work for a company that was a member of the Hispanic > Chamber of Commerce. > > > I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do > not > > inhabit the same real

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Really, universities and tech schools in Latin America don't teach programming? >You are talking about a skill set that doesn't exist in these countries. > Remember the quota of H1B visa applications was reached in a single day this year. >They those types of people existed and wanted to come h

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Illegal is illegal. They came as students and were fradulently still here. They obviously have no respect for the law, they broke it to stay here. What is to stop a programmer from crossing the border illegally? >This is a little different also. People that came to school here had to go >t

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
What do you mean? You don't see them, or you think they are crazy? I guess you have to work for a company that was a member of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. > I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do not > inhabit the same reality that I do. > ~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
2 are, but they are here legally. The others, I have no idea. I wouldn't hire them and called INS when they approached me for a job in 2003. I know the left New Orleans, but don't know for where. >Are they paying taxes? ~| C

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
This is a little different also. People that came to school here had to go through a process and were allowed to come in. That is different than a van filled with 23 programmers sneaking across the border in the middle of the night. > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAI

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Are they paying taxes? > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as > Immigrants) > > Would they? > > I

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
ssel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as > Immigrants) > > I'm asking what if it were skilled laborers coming across in droves? > Like what happened in

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do not inhabit the same reality that I do. > Would they? > > I know 5 Mexican programmers who left Mexico after graduating from > UMAN to take jobs here in the US because they had no decent jobs there. > Three are here on expir

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Would they? I know 5 Mexican programmers who left Mexico after graduating from UMAN to take jobs here in the US because they had no decent jobs there. Three are here on expired student visas. >If they were programmers then they still be in their home country and we'd >be outsourcing to them

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
I'm asking what if it were skilled laborers coming across in droves? Like what happened in Miami when Batista fell. Programmers don't require licenses. They just need to present proof of skills. Doctors and lawyers and other licensed skills are different, but what about those unlicensed skil

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
If they were programmers then they still be in their home country and we'd be outsourcing to them also. > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Step out from behind your sense of superiority and think about illigal > immigration. What would have happened

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> What would have happened to us if all of these illegals were > programmers instead of construction and agricultural workers? Are you serious? I mean really. you're seriously asking us to consider this from the angle of skilled vs unskilled labor? Your argument won't hold up past the first bar

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Step out from behind your sense of superiority and think about illigal immigration. What would have happened to us if all of these illegals were programmers instead of construction and agricultural workers? >"Have we had enough of the B.S. yet?" > >Yup, and this article is right on top of the p

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Skinner
"Have we had enough of the B.S. yet?" Yup, and this article is right on top of the pile. It didn't take three paragraphs before this author was contradicting himself. I started to point out the details, but <<>> I can't bring myself to go to the trouble. Confidentiality Notice: This message i

Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
http://louisianaconservative.com/?p=108 Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants Tomorrow is May Day 2007 for the National Immigrant Solidarity Network. That means tomorrow, hundreds of thousands of “immigrants rights” groups are going to be protesting in the streets of major U.S

Re: Aliens Invade Brevard North Carolina

2006-10-31 Thread Robert Munn
were standing out on the front > portch with a sound system making the creepy sound effects from the > movie and at different times of the day the crane moved the tripod > into different positions (thought I was never there to see them move > it). The yard was also covered in debris as

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