> > My question: what was a 78 year old man doing quail hunting in the first
> > place?
> >
Well now - you don't expect him to still be hunting humans for sport do
you?!
You've got to slow down sometime.
Jim Davis
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> My question: what was a 78 year old man doing quail hunting in the first
> place?
>
Hey now, my dad is in his 70's and has hunted safely for 50 years. He'll be
hunting, safely, when he's well into his 80's!
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my thought too. Probably a large campaign contributor, unlikely to need help
with his hospital bills. Odds are that Cheney is footing the bill, and if not,
any lawyer would know what to do about that.
> I don't know, but Wittington is a successful Texas lawyer. I don't
> think he is on the roll
I don't know, but Wittington is a successful Texas lawyer. I don't think he is
on the rolls of the uninsured.
>Every story I'm seeing indicates that it's private doctors that are treating
>him. It is true that the first responders were on hand as part of the vice
>presidential entourage, but aft
LOL, ain't it fun?
>I do recall Cheney speaking to the NRA during the last election
>campaign about the importance of gun safety while pushing for people's
>right to carry weapons.
>
>Does significant irony make it scandal worthy? It's at least worth a
>lot of pointing and laughing.
>
>On 2/14/06,
LOL, ain't it fun?
>I do recall Cheney speaking to the NRA during the last election
>campaign about the importance of gun safety while pushing for people's
>right to carry weapons.
>
>Does significant irony make it scandal worthy? It's at least worth a
>lot of pointing and laughing.
>
>On 2/14/06,
good point there...
>So what this does is cast doubt on Cheney's credibility when it comes
>to, say, following the process in wiretapping American citizens.
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Archi
He was treated on scene by Cheney's medically trained detail before
being moved to the hospital. Who follow him everywhere (the President
too). The same as they would have treated anyone in a medical
emergency (once they had determined the VP did not need them)
regardless of what caused the emergen
or the hospital stay. Not
really an issue either.
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On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
he's being treated by the VP's doctor? Hadn't heard that part.
>My reasoning is that when the Vice President shoots somebody the US
>public has a right to who, why, when, where. And if that victim was
>treated by a doctor that tax payers are paying to care for the Vice
>President, then we have a
agreed there
>
>It's fun enough without distorting the facts.
>
>On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> for 14 hours. That combined with his behavior seems suspicious.
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On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My reasoning is that when the Vice President shoots somebody the US
> public has a right to who, why, when, where.
They do, and that *is* news.
The delay in telling the public is *not* news.
If Cheney's story changes, that *will* be news.
Wild
I was wondering if they had to sober him up seriously though, it does look
as thought it was genuinely an accident. The thing is though, I wonder what the
laws are on Joe Blow failing to call the sheriff over a hunting accident. I
think someone said there are none, which seems possible from
We already knew that; remember the energy commission? Still, it's a reminder to
impeach Cheney first...
> It gives everyone (including Bush) an insight into how Cheney might
> handle a REAL scandal, which can't make Rove or Bush sleep any better
> at night.
~
I heard on of the people doing the story wore blaze orange to stand in front of
the ranch
>> gMoney wrote:
>> - "Apparently the reason they didn't release the information right away is
>> they said we had to get the facts right. That's never stopped them in the
>> past."
>>
>
>ROTFL! Too fun
How about the one where he is supposed to have said "Now! Who else thinks the
eavesdropping program is illegal?"
>> Cam wrote:
>> Oh - and the whitehouse isn't making a big deal about it, the press
>> is. I watched part of the press conference this morning and it
>> consisted of press members
Chris Matthews said this very thing tonight.
If he has learned one thing in his years in politics, when the facts
are better than what the media is reporting, they are quick to get the
updates out. When the facts are worse than what is being reported,
they will always be slow to comment.
That is
> Garza wrote:
> So by your reasoning, anyone that receives Medicare should have to
> disclose their medical conditions to the press
No, that's your reasoning.
My reasoning is that when the Vice President shoots somebody the US
public has a right to who, why, when, where. And if that victim was
> Jerry wrote:
> Nope. He did not inform law enforcement at all. Not immediately nor 14
> hours later.
Huh. Well, if that's true, I stand corrected. However, I'm guessing
the facts will all become crystal clear within the week.
I guess the summary of my out loud supposition was, when something
government out
of our lives, but let the press in our bedrooms.
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> Garza wrote:
> Since when is the medica
Nope. He did not inform law enforcement at all. Not immediately nor 14
hours later. Although in a small town like that, I'm sure they knew
just about instantly.
The doctor in the Emergency room was the one (following local law) who
reported the gunshot wound to the police.
Also, the police were i
> Garza wrote:
> Since when is the medical condition of a private citizen of any concern to
> the whitehouse press corps?
When his medical condition is due to being shot by the Vice President
and tax payer dollars were spent on his care.
~~~
> Jerry wrote:
> As for the fact that Cheney did not report the shooting to law
> enforcement, there is no reason under Texas law to make such a report.
Yes, but Cheney wasn't even sure how to get or how much to pay for his
license so I doubt he was read up on gunshot laws.
And he did inform law
On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After hearing today's round of news I'm starting to wonder if:
>
> 1.) Cheney intentionally shot the guy for some reason, or
> 2.) He was drunk, or
> 3.) Something else weird.
Perhaps the press is drunk?
-Cameron
~~~
heesh.
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> Scott wrote:
> But you're right Cheney didn't do anything wrong..
I wonder ... Cheney shoots a
> Schmidt wrote:
> I guess the same could be said about Ted Kennedy.
>
> Would his experience count as Naval???
>
LOL! Well, if it doesn't, he does drink like a sailor.
After hearing today's round of news I'm starting to wonder if:
1.) Cheney intentionally shot the guy for some reason, or
2.) H
I doubt any submariner would claim him as one of their own.
As for the fact that Cheney did not report the shooting to law
enforcement, there is no reason under Texas law to make such a report.
In fact, the police have been on record today saying they would not
have even take a report given the fa
I guess the same could be said about Ted Kennedy.
Would his experience count as Naval???
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> Scott wr
> Scott wrote:
> But you're right Cheney didn't do anything wrong..
I wonder ... Cheney shoots a guy and:
1.) Doesn't tell law enforcement for 14 hours,
2.) Doesn't tell the President for 22 hours, and
3.) Never tells the US citizens. He simply tells the ranch ower who,
on her own, decides that
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I don't think he should, either.
But the question was asked: Would it change anything if the victim were to die?
I said no, it should not change anything since the actions would not
have changed, and the shooting has been ruled an accident by the
investigating authorities.
I was later informed (
It works for jellyfish stings, why not try it on gunshot victims? Did
I here he was shot in the lip? Nothing like rubbing salt in the wound.
:)
On 2/14/06, Kevin Graeme wrote:
> OMG! CHENEY PEES ON 78 YEAR OLD MAN!
>
> Not only scandalous, but perverted to boot!
>
Now you guys are just having fever dreams, and that is what this whole little
bruhaha is all about. Lots of people hate Bush, hate Dick Cheney, and no matter
what they do someone is going to find fault with them. Cheney isn't going to
face any charges.
>It turns out I was wrong, and if Mr Witt
OMG! CHENEY PEES ON 78 YEAR OLD MAN!
Not only scandalous, but perverted to boot!
On 2/14/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yawn. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would think it was a scandal if
> Cheney took a piss and didn't lift the lid first.
>
speaking of third eye.
i was getting oout of the shower this morning.
took a quick look at my mug in the mirror.
and i had blood running in a thin stream from between my eyes.
a perfect little nick.
no idea how i got it.
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Me
He was going to tell the press once he nailed that f'in bird. Frikin
hunter got in the way.
On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> 1.) Yup, it was a simple accident, but that's not the point. It's not
> the accident, it's the aftermath that's in question.
>
> 2.) When the VP is involved in a shooting a
> gMoney wrote:
> He accidentally shot someone. They did all they could to help the guy out
> first and foremost. They haven't lied about it
1.) Yup, it was a simple accident, but that's not the point. It's not
the accident, it's the aftermath that's in question.
2.) When the VP is involved in a
No. In Texas, unless someone is actually killed, there is no law even
requiring that the accident be reported.
The only reporting required in the case is by a treating physician who
treats a gunshot wound (regardless of the claimed source).
It turns out I was wrong, and if Mr Wittington were to d
Your problem is you don't know how to recognize truly evil people. You
need a third eye maybe and then you'll get it.
On 2/14/06, G wrote:
> This is getting ridiculous..
>
> He accidentally shot someone. They did all they could to help the guy out
> first and foremost. He obviously feels bad a
Is her first name Abby?
On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> >
> > No we don't :)
> >
>
> He meant normal people.
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> Former White House Press Secretary Marlin Fitzwater criticized Vice
> President Dick Cheney Tuesday for delaying the release of information
> about his hunting accident on Saturday, saying Cheney "ignored his
> responsibility to the American people" and he said he was "appalled by
> the whole han
Anyone from Texas know what the law is concerning this?
I saw a brief news blurb saying Cheney and the guy he shot were being issued
warnings over some $7.00 fee that didn't get paid.
The shooting was deemed a "hunting accident" (duh!!) What does this mean.
I know in Virginia, you might go to ja
exactly.
Gruss Gott wrote:
>> Ray wrote:
>> The difference, I think, is that we (the general public) feel that we
>> have been lied to, manipulated, a tricked over the past 5 years by this
>> administration.
>
> Former White House Press Secretary Marlin Fitzwater criticized Vice
> President Dick
Maybe the reason its a cover up is because they werent shooting at birds but
at cardboard renditions of popular democrats and it took them a day to clean
the scene.
You gotta admin, Whittington looks a wee bit like Kerry if you squint down a
ruler like Chenney was squinting down a shotgun.
Think
> Ray wrote:
> The difference, I think, is that we (the general public) feel that we
> have been lied to, manipulated, a tricked over the past 5 years by this
> administration.
Former White House Press Secretary Marlin Fitzwater criticized Vice
President Dick Cheney Tuesday for delaying the releas
> Autocratic Sam wrote:
> On 2/14/06, Ray Champagne wrote:
> > The difference, I think, is that we (the general public) feel that we
> > have been lied to, manipulated, a tricked over the past 5 years by this
> > administration.
>
> No we don't :)
>
He meant normal people.
~~~
On 2/14/06, Ray Champagne wrote:
> The difference, I think, is that we (the general public) feel that we
> have been lied to, manipulated, a tricked over the past 5 years by this
> administration.
No we don't :)
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> That is not what she said in her interviews.
>
> According to her, she and her mother insisted to Cheney they really
> needed to report it. He said if they wanted to, go ahead, but he
> wasn't going to be involved.
How does that not jibe with my theory? She insisted that she needed to report
i
>> The "scandal" involves the handling of the event itself, the
>> appearance of a media cover-up or intentional delay, and the
>> allegations of media disdain.
>
> Not really sure how it can be a media cover up when it was the people
> involved that notified the media. Intentional delay? Maybe.
> Jerry wrote:
> The "scandal" involves the handling of the event itself, the
> appearance of a media cover-up or intentional delay, and the
> allegations of media disdain.
>
Yup, it's a point of process or "best practices". Sure there's the
this-is-a-small-deal argument, but anyone who breaks th
> No, you weren't listening.
True, i was reading :)
>
> There is no scandal involving the SHOOTING. That is a tragic accident
> in which all parties have suffered.
>
> The "scandal" involves the handling of the event itself, the
> appearance of a media cover-up or intentional delay, and the
> all
No, you weren't listening.
There is no scandal involving the SHOOTING. That is a tragic accident
in which all parties have suffered.
The "scandal" involves the handling of the event itself, the
appearance of a media cover-up or intentional delay, and the
allegations of media disdain.
Whether thi
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Anybody Hear About Cheney Plugging That Dude?
>
> Does significant irony make it scandal worthy? It's at least wor
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:41 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Anybody Hear About Cheney Plugging That Dude?
>
> Actually, Bush DOES call Cheney every time he falls off the mountain
&
> It IS a scandal.
>
> the definition from Wikipedia:
>
> A scandal is a widely publicized incident involving allegations of
> wrong-doing, disgrace, or moral outrage. A scandal may be based on
> reality, or the product of false allegations, or a mixture of both.
>
> Isn't this EXACTLY what is goin
On 2/14/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do recall Cheney speaking to the NRA during the last election
> campaign about the importance of gun safety while pushing for people's
> right to carry weapons.
>
> Does significant irony make it scandal worthy?
No. (Yawn)
> It's at least wo
Actually, Bush DOES call Cheney every time he falls off the mountain
bike. He also alerts the media, and lets everyone know what happened
and that everything is all right.
He even alerts the media when he chokes on a pretzel in his private residence.
> On 2/14/06, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
Gun safety is one of those things emphasized quite a bit in the
military, that's why it's so surprising...oh waitnevermind.
On 2/14/06, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do recall Cheney speaking to the NRA during the last election
> campaign about the importance of gun safety w
I do recall Cheney speaking to the NRA during the last election
campaign about the importance of gun safety while pushing for people's
right to carry weapons.
Does significant irony make it scandal worthy? It's at least worth a
lot of pointing and laughing.
On 2/14/06, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED
It IS a scandal.
the definition from Wikipedia:
A scandal is a widely publicized incident involving allegations of
wrong-doing, disgrace, or moral outrage. A scandal may be based on
reality, or the product of false allegations, or a mixture of both.
Isn't this EXACTLY what is going on?
On 2/14/
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:43 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Anybody Hear About Cheney Plugging That Dude?
>
>
> It gives everyone (including Bush) an insight into how Chen
> It is an important story, not at all because of what happened (it was
> certainly just a tragic hunting accident), but because of how the VP
> reacted, how he did or did not let his boss know, how the White House
> is going to handle this scandal (whether to get out in front of it,
> stonewall, l
> RoMunn wrote:
> A. Report it to the national media and have 8000 people
>
> B. Report it to the local media a little later once the accident victim has
> been sent to the hospital.
>
Here's the ridiculous part: the Whitehouse didn't release it to the
Press. A private citizen did under her own
That is not what she said in her interviews.
According to her, she and her mother insisted to Cheney they really
needed to report it. He said if they wanted to, go ahead, but he
wasn't going to be involved.
He also did not report to the President that HE had been involved.
>From the current scutt
There is reason that this is a big story. The national press is throwing a
hissy fit at being "left out" of the story. The press is there to "make news",
and they need material to make news from. Is it a news story? Sure. Is it a big
deal news story? Not really.
Here is why the story didn't ge
> gMoney wrote:
> - "Apparently the reason they didn't release the information right away is
> they said we had to get the facts right. That's never stopped them in the
> past."
>
ROTFL! Too funny. Let's keep the official list.
Cheney's got a gun ... Cheney's got a gun ...
The whole world's co
On 2/14/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's still odd, but, again, the best part are the jokes. Here's a sampler:
Yes, anyone with an intact sense of humor has got to love the jokes! :)
-Cameron
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i heard, but i was like, who cares, really.
i mean, niggas get shot every day around here.
fuck it
On 2/14/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - "But here is the sad part - before the trip Donald Rumsfeld had denied the
> guy's request for body armor."
> - "That's the big story over the weekend. .
- "But here is the sad part - before the trip Donald Rumsfeld had denied the
guy's request for body armor."
- "That's the big story over the weekend. ... Dick Cheney accidentally shot
a fellow hunter, a 78-year-old lawyer. In fact, when people found out he
shot a lawyer, his popularity is now at
> Cam wrote:
> Oh - and the whitehouse isn't making a big deal about it, the press
> is. I watched part of the press conference this morning and it
> consisted of press members feverishly asking one after the other why
> there was a delay. The answer remains - who cares.
>
It's still odd, but, a
> Schmidt wrote:
> I was just pointing out that you lefties on this list seem to get people's
> names wrong.
Lefty? Well, I am for Gay Marriage and a smaller federal gov't than
this President is spending my money on. So if you call a guy who
wants a limited fed gov't, states rights, and freedom
On 2/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is the Whitehouse making it a big deal when, as you point out, it
> shouldn't be?
Oh - and the whitehouse isn't making a big deal about it, the press
is. I watched part of the press conference this morning and it
consisted of press members f
On 2/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is the Whitehouse making it a big deal when, as you point out, it
> shouldn't be?
Who cares?
Lather, rinse, repeat.
-Cameron
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On 2/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I'll skip all of the obvious quips except the oddest one:
>
> Cheney Shoots, Questions Asked Later
>
> This is interesting because, for some reason, Cheney's office decided
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> Schmidt wrote:
> Who really caresand Gruss his name is McClellan
>
Well, apparently you.
And that ass clown McClennen.
> Schmidt wrote:
> Who really caresand Gruss his name is McClellan
>
Well, apparently you.
And that ass clown McClennen.
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> Jerry wrote:
> I think because Cheney told the White House to "F" themselves, and
> they are not quite sure what to do now.
>
> They are standing in the spotlight, trying to tap dance around an
> issue Cheney has no intention of addressing, and they don't know what
> is going on either.
>
Yup, y
Who really caresand Gruss his name is McClellan
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I think because Cheney told the White House to &q
I think because Cheney told the White House to "F" themselves, and
they are not quite sure what to do now.
They are standing in the spotlight, trying to tap dance around an
issue Cheney has no intention of addressing, and they don't know what
is going on either.
On 2/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PRO
> Cam wrote:
> The fact that Cheney shot someone by accident is certainly news, but
> I'm not really sure why the fact that the information was delayed is
> actually news.
>
On the surface, yes, but if you watched the press conference the guy
was downright evasive on why it took 22 hours to tell t
On 2/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is interesting because, for some reason, Cheney's office decided
> to cover up the shooting. Why?
The fact that Cheney shot someone by accident is certainly news, but
I'm not really sure why the fact that the information was delayed is
actu
So I'll skip all of the obvious quips except the oddest one:
Cheney Shoots, Questions Asked Later
This is interesting because, for some reason, Cheney's office decided
to cover up the shooting. Why?
Cheney shoots a dude in the face with a shotgun Sat Morning but
doesn't tell the President for 2
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