12:23 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
From: Shawn Regan
Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF
server but they have a windows server that already has IIS
which in turn already has ASP. 9 out of 10 clients will
prefer to us ASP since they do not have
: Dot.net stuff
So I can only speak about what I have seen and I have seen only one buy
CF
server because we showed them how they can benefit from its use.
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I went to a dot.net seminar on Friday.I've got to admit that a lot of the
stuff dot.net has to offer is pretty tempting.I was creating a wish list
for CFMX as I was listening to the presenter.I started thinking, I've been
doing cf dev for about 6 years and I know the strengths and weaknesses of
Arrrgh.I'm going to have to start giving up a bunch of free time to
learn
this.
If your office is pushing MS, are they willing to at least send you to
professional development courses to get you up to speed?
-Kevin
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defeat.
Marlon
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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:45 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Dot.net stuff
Arrrgh.I'm going to have to start giving up a bunch of free time to
learn
this.
If your office is pushing MS
Well,
Think of it as another string to your bow. I'm doing exactly the same thing.
Adam
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2004 15:46
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
Yeah, actually they want us to go to 2 weeks training every year.I
From: Marlon Moyer
Yeah, actually they want us to go to 2 weeks training every
year.I wanted to go to flash training, but I'll probably
end up doing some dot net stuff.
I know it sounds like I'm being a winer, but it just feels
like I've been fighting an uphill battle for too long and
I know it sounds like I'm being a winer
If you eat while doing that, you can be a winer and diner. ;-)
-Kevin
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I went to a dot.net seminar on Friday.I've got to admit that a lot of the
stuff dot.net has to offer is pretty tempting.I was creating a wish list
for CFMX as I was listening to the presenter.I started thinking, I've been
doing cf dev for about 6 years and I know the strengths
And you can OOP with PERL :) Been using it here and there since 97.
Shawn Regan
Head Applications Developer
pacifictechnologysolutions
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From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
From: Andre Turrettini
For example, we've switched part of our dev to perl and I'm
stunned at how much faster this language is than cf on the
execution!Sure its a bit slower to develop in but if I get
a site that needs huge thruput, I'll strongly consider doing
it in perl.So basically
, March 08, 2004 9:36 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Dot.net stuff
I went to a dot.net seminar on Friday.I've got to admit that a lot of the
stuff dot.net has to offer is pretty tempting.I was creating a wish list
for CFMX as I was listening to the presenter.I started thinking, I've been
doing cf dev
guess what it will do and you know it will be part of
the .NET framework.
Shawn Regan
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From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I just had 3 weeks of training
: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF to .NET. A lot
of the client we have did not want to use CF so I slowly moved towards ASP,
PERL, PHP and now everyone
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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF to .NET. A
lot
of the client we have did not want to use CF so I slowly moved towards
ASP,
PERL, PHP and now everyone wants to use .NET. I
More than Attempt from what I here. I think this type of GUI for an OS would
and will be really cool!
Shawn Regan
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From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
Its going
I don't ever see me going away from CF
Yeah, it is all up to what you prefer and what you clients prefer.
Shawn Regan
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From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I've been working
From: Shawn Regan
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want to use CF
so I slowly moved towards ASP, PERL, PHP and now everyone
wants to use .NET.
This always makes me laugh...
If you've got a client that wants a
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From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
From: Shawn Regan
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want to use CF
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From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
From: Shawn Regan
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want
Enter Blue Dragon..
HIY!
*Jumps into karate stance*
-Gel
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From: Shawn Regan
Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF server but they
have a windows server that already has IIS which in turn already has
ASP. 9
out of 10 clients will prefer to
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From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
While I agree with this comment, I also disagree with it.. :) because if
that company would have had it explained (correctly) that it will take HALF
the time to develop
From: Shawn Regan
Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF
server but they have a windows server that already has IIS
which in turn already has ASP. 9 out of 10 clients will
prefer to us ASP since they do not have to purchase another
server to handle the website you
, as always, this is MHO.:P
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From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:11 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I do not agree. I have seen applications done in ASP or others just as fast
as with CF and now with .NET even faster
From: Shawn Regan
I do not agree. I have seen applications done in ASP or
others just as fast as with CF and now with .NET even faster.
So if you know you can design the application in ASP in the
same amount of time you could do it in CF then the client
would most likely pick the path
CF versus PHP versus .Net versus ASP ...
PLEASE people ... I thought we all decided that we all use the best tool
for the job?
Some of us specialize in CF and make quite a handsome living with it,
others do the same in ASP ... PHP ... whatever floats their boat.
Do you guys LIKE to argue over
As you were
Okay, pants back off everybody!
-Kevin
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Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
From: Shawn Regan
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want to use CF
so I slowly moved towards ASP, PERL, PHP and now everyone
wants to use .NET.
This always makes me laugh...
If you've got
I asked to do some .NET training.
Manager said sometime in the future -
for now, training has to directly apply
to this year's projects.
So, it looks like more Stellent Content Management training.
This is not a bad thing, just somewhat more specialized...
-Ben
I went to a dot.net seminar on
Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
Hmmm ... which tool to use
0_0
/me runs ...
From: Kevin Graeme
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Okay, pants back off everybody!
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Kinky... I LIKE it :-)
As you were
Okay, pants back off everybody!
-Kevin
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Erika,
This isnt an argument of which is best (We all already which is :) ) it is a point that customers are NOT always informed of all the facts.. So therefore many developers/customers belive that because something is simply free to put on the server.. it's is the solution.
While I do agree
/YOU 'runs' towards or away from the tool? :)
Pablo
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From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:26:01 -0500
Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
Hmmm ... which tool to
Hmm, me thought you didn't use tools ;-)
Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
Hmmm ... which tool to use
0_0
/me runs ...
From: Kevin Graeme
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Okay, pants back off everybody!
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Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
You completely missed the poinit of my post.
sigh
People that do not read .
/me shakes head drinks more of her cocktail, and offers none to
Pablo ...
From: Pablo Varando
This isnt an argument of which is best (We all already which is :) )
it is a point that
I had a client who wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to run a transactional 401(k) website for 1 million+ users off a single server running over a 56K dedicated modem. The user validation was through an Access VBA validation module.
After much argument, I built it to spec. Took 4 months to
A man's doo-hicky is his tool didn't you know that?
:D
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From: Ben Braver
Hmm, me thought you didn't use tools ;-)
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You completely missed the poinit of my post.
Ohh, ohh, I know!Your point was we should wear pants!
Does I gets a cookie?
Matthew
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From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:36 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net
DING DING DING DING DING
WINNER!!! WINNER!!! WINNER
/me passes a WHOLE BOX of cookies to Matt
Cheers,
Erika
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC)
You completely missed the poinit of my post.
Ohh, ohh, I know!Your point was we should wear pants!
Does I gets a cookie?
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Of course I knew that, I was teasin' ya :-)
sheesh now Eri*K*a with a K is takin' Benny seriously.
oy.
hehe
A man's doo-hicky is his tool didn't you know that?
:D
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From: Ben Braver
Hmm, me thought you didn't use tools ;-)
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I want a drink too... damn!... ;) hehe
Pablo
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From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:35:35 -0500
Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
You completely missed the poinit of my post.
sigh
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