pretty sure there will be an insanity defense. And I think I saw that he
saw friend get his leg blown off the day before. But still. The answer to
that, I think is that a lot of soldiers live through horrifying situations,
and don't go out and shoot children afterwards. The guy who shot two cops
Not to defend him, but different people react differently. I would say PTSD
played a role in this and that more than likely, the Marine's metal health
serves failed this soldier, but the fact does remain that he went on to
murder people. Sometimes the crazy doesn't come to the surface until
that's where I was going with the why was he on active duty thing. But I am
not buying that it's all the fault of the Army and they should have seen it
coming, either. Not unless a whole lot comes out at trial about him asking
for help and not getting it.
By the way, anyone know if
I just saw in a CNN alert that he has been charged with 7 murders and faces
the death penalty.
Actually, that does put some f the blame on the Marines. Not only should
his superior have seen something, but they do have regular mental health
checks and someone should have seen something. Often
17. Not 7. Some of them were children. Others were women. All of them were
civilians. And yes, there is a problem with the military culture that makes
it hard to ask for help. But still. When you start to think gee, wouldn't
it be a good idea to go over to this village over here and shoot some
Oops...typo
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17. Not 7. Some of them were children. Others were women. All of them were
There is also the issue of the base he's from. The mental health
services in Ft. Lewis in Washington invalidated over 40% of all PTSD
cases last year. Apparently the director doesn't think PTSD and TBI
are real and did not want to spend the money on it. This is also the
base where the kill team
cool. Thought maybe you heard about it.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Eric Roberts
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Oops...typo
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er, heard it wrong, I mean. Someone was talking to me.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Eric Roberts
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Oops...typo
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ah. had not seen that yet. That might explain some of the not seeking help,
yup.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
There is also the issue of the base he's from. The mental health
services in Ft. Lewis in Washington invalidated over 40% of all PTSD
The medical staff at Fort Lewis is laughable. My ex was knocked from
the top of a tanker truck during a training exercise, landed on his
tailbone and shattered it. The doctors at Fort Lewis refused to
classify it as a service related injury. It took years of fighting
with the Army and the VA
He's going to face 17 counts of murder.
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10816077-defense-official-staff-sgt-robert-bales-to-face-17-murder-counts-in-afghanistan-massacre
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
He's going to face 17 counts of murder.
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10816077-defense-official-staff-sgt-robert-bales-to-face-17-murder-counts-in-afghanistan-massacre
In other kinda off topic but
am I insane to think that this kinda thing is not surprising at all, that
we have driven out boys to madness (some of them) and that although he
pulled the trigger, it's our lust for war and oil that is the cause of
this, and the more we re-deploy and re-deploy more and more of this will
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-madness-is-not-the-reason-for-this-massacre-7575737.html
I'm getting a bit tired of the deranged soldier story. It was
predictable, of course. The 38-year-old staff sergeant who massacred 16
Afghan civilians, including nine
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't this explanation be used for every nutjob that decides to shoot and
kill innocents? Or blow them up
Yes it can. What's your point? You like a different word? use it.
Any word that suggests a disgusting, sick, perverted,
He's going to end up in a psyche ward for a while is what I am guessing.
On 20 March 2012 11:17, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes it can. What's your point? You like a different word? use it.
Any word that suggests a disgusting, sick, perverted, evil, inhumane set of
thoughts and
I'm guessing he will be incarcerated for the rest of his life in a maximum
security facility...if he avoids the death penalty.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
He's going to end up in a psyche ward for a while is what I am guessing.
On 20 March 2012 11:17,
Give him to the village the victims were from. It would likely have the
most positive impact on peace and would be very much in line with the
Afghan style of punishment.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
He's going to end up in a psyche ward for a while is
There is that element...combat fatigue can make you do a lot of things that
you might not normally do when you are metally sound. Whether this is just
stripping away the veneer of sanity and just revealing the inner psychopath
of this individual or it just really messed him up and he went into a
Not to excuse his actions...but there is a difference between doing
something criminally and doing something as a result of mental stress
induced psychosis. If this guy was just an outright asshat and just went
into this village to shoot people up for shits and giggles...then
yeah...that would
I don't think that even the villagers would want to do that in the latter
case.
Really? I tend to disagree.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that even the villagers would want to do that in the latter
case.
Really? I tend to disagree.
Same here. Tell that to the parents and friends of kids who were killed at
Virginia Tech.
Here's more info on this guys...apparently he is just an asshole...
http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-murder-suspect-bales-took-life-savings-says-223
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