I like that response. I may do it the next time I have to suffer those
cretins.
larry
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> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on
> cup, a tasse, a pet or a cawan, a cup is meant to be used. Stop arguing
> and drink, stop squabbling and refresh your thirst." This is the
> Buddhist attitude to other religions.
Yeah, I've noticed that the Buddhist attitude is to be subtley patronizing.
;-)
-Kevin
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up is meant to be used. Stop arguing
and drink, stop squabbling and refresh your thirst." This is the
Buddhist attitude to other religions.
Ven. S. Dhammika
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it would
invalidate the sacrament. ;^)
Jim Davis
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From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:23 PM
To: CF-Community
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I thought "Religion and Politics" were NO-NO topics for bars, work and
(CF-
We've always talked of religion and politics here the only rules in
place were no malicious personal attacks against anyone.
Like me saying Tim is an arogant utter fool and should be TOD. :D
/me runs
Cheers,
Erika
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From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> I thought "Religion and Politics" were NO-NO topics fo
nitions in E.O. 12958.
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:45 PM
To: CF-Community
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I thought "Religion and Politics" were NO-NO topics for bars, work and
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>>From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:24 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>>
>>
>>You don't "buy the idea"?
>>Too bad for you.
>>C
Either that or have marriage be a religious institution only, and only civil
unions get benefits of state/federal laws.
Separation of church and state, I'm all for it.
_
Personally I believe that marriage is a religious institution until the
state offers legal benefits for it - then it
bject: Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
Actually, Leavenworth is such that even if you're not in the federal
prison system, you're still doing time there.
- Jim
Angel Stewart wrote:
>0_0
>
>You were in jail?
>What were you in for?
>
>-Gel
&g
true dat!
:-)
Jim Campbell wrote:
> Actually, Leavenworth is such that even if you're not in the federal
> prison system, you're still doing time there.
>
> - Jim
>
> Angel Stewart wrote:
>
> >0_0
> >
> >You were in jail?
> >What were you in for?
> >
> >-Gel
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >
Shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die...
^_^
Nah... just lived in the town. Started off as a military brat at the
post, then my parents decided they liked the place and retired there...
Angel Stewart wrote:
> 0_0
>
>
> You were in jail?
> What were you in for?
>
>
> -Gel
>
> -Original
Actually, Leavenworth is such that even if you're not in the federal
prison system, you're still doing time there.
- Jim
Angel Stewart wrote:
>0_0
>
>You were in jail?
>What were you in for?
>
>-Gel
>
>-Original Message-
>From: William H Bowen
>
>heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth m
y, March 11, 2004 3:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
2 messages on this thread brought to mind something that happened at lunch.
SIN.
Assholes of [insert sect here] faith.
This morning, I was completely agnostic about the whole concept of gay
marri
0_0
You were in jail?
What were you in for?
-Gel
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From: William H Bowen
heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth myself
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Ah, but some jerks just never quit!
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I'll step up to the challenge, Charlie:
>> I hope I never have to come across people like that.
Well, then you'll just have to aim better!
- Jim
Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e23
heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth myself...what a treat Fred Phelps is :-)
my personal favorite tactic of his cult:
having children run out in front of cars entering the driveways of
Women's Clinics and lay down on the pavement.
strange that his group was never brought up on child endangerment ch
Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
>
>
>
>
>>What a bunch of jerks. WACKOS! haha. I hope I never have to come across
>>
>>
>people like
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From: "brobborb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
> What a bunch of jerks. WACKOS! haha. I hope I ne
lmost never worth
>the effort and this is exactly why.
>
>M
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:24 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
>You don't "buy the i
Kick ASS. I'll bet money it was a contingent from Westboro Baptist
Church in Topeka, KS, otherwise known as the home of that imitable
statesman, Fred Phelps. I lived in Kansas for 7 years, and I LOVED
locking horns with those troglodytes. I never got into a shouting match
or anything - I'd j
What a bunch of jerks. WACKOS! haha. I hope I never have to come across people like that.
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From: Jerry Johnson
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
2 messages on this
CF-Community
Subject: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
2 messages on this thread brought to mind something that happened at lunch.
SIN.
Assholes of [insert sect here] faith.
This morning, I was completely agnostic about the whole concept of gay
marriage. It doesn't affect me
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> > Words are tricky and can be interpreted many ways.
>
> That is putting it mildly. Try some of the writings of Gnostic
Christianity
> if you want twisted words.
I have.
erved what he got. Pardon me, but as originally preached
> Christianity's basis was love, not hatred. What went wrong.
>
> larry
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:02 PM
> &g
> > Words are tricky and can be interpreted many ways.
>
> That is putting it mildly. Try some of the writings of Gnostic
Christianity
> if you want twisted words.
I have. :-)
And I also touched on a little bit of Talmudic study too, though since I
don't know Hebrew it was just reading other's ar
stianity's basis was love, not hatred. What went wrong.
larry
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)
>
>
&g
ail is
unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:45 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
Sure, just lob rocks over a wall and act like we should all be th
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From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> sounds more like an "asshole" Catholic than a tolerant
2 messages on this thread brought to mind something that happened at lunch.
SIN.
Assholes of [insert sect here] faith.
This morning, I was completely agnostic about the whole concept of gay marriage. It doesn't affect me, so I really didn't care.
While walking to lunch near the Boston Common, I
gt; > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> >
> >
> > /me throws a rock at Larry's holy goat for trying to be
> > rational in a religious flamewar.
> >
> >
> >
> > >Hey People, before this goes any further, ple
And I was planning on goat curry for supper tonight.
larry
> -Original Message-
> From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
> /me throws a rock at Larry&#
Comments inline
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> Relating to the whole "Jesus IS God" thing, there was an
>
-
>From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:54 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
>You obviously did not read my post carefully. I'm surprised. /Ben
>
>>Ben -
>>
>>I don't need
sounds more like an "asshole" Catholic than a tolerant one... shall we
then tar all Catholics with the epithet "looney" because of this incident?
sorry, there's assholes in every faith and creed...
will
a cantrl. wrote:
> Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year
> d
ll often "attack" the behaviours of other
> browsers.
>
> O_o
>
> I'll shut up now.
>
> -Kevin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> S
/me throws a rock at Larry's holy goat for trying to be rational in a religious flamewar.
>Hey People, before this goes any further, please lets limit the religious
>wars to those issues where it matters. In other words, operating systems,
>browsers and web application servers.
>
>larry
>
>>
[Tod
> I think you are using the word "attacking" loosely.
> Saying that you disagree with someone,
> or that you think they are incorrect,
> is not an "attack". Sounds paranoid...
Vehemently denouncing something is not an attack? Having scripture that
cites how a god smites worshippers of other gods i
om: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:54 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
>You obviously did not read my post carefully. I'm surprised. /Ben
>
>>Ben -
>>
>>I don't need to k
Fine with me, Larry. Never wanted "war". Was asked to provide clarification on wife's opinion on Catholic faith. Did so,
and suddenly there are accusations of "attacks" on Catholics.
Like I said, I will pass the replies on to my wife.
I will let the thread die in peace,
unless someone wants to re
o explain it to them.
M
-Original Message-
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
You obviously did not read my post carefully. I'm surprised. /Ben
>Ben -
>
>I don'
> Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year
> dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw by some "tolerant"
> catholic?
>
> What's up with that? And why is it ok that 10 other people at the
> party were dressed as the devil himself and they didn't get slugged?
> Seem
ys when he realized he'd been misled or lied to,
he changed his position based on the revealed truth :-)
-Ben
>
>-Kevin
>
>
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>> Would there be a costume that would equally cause a Jewish person
to haul off and slug someone?
Going to a Halloween party dressed as Mel Gibson's father.
- Jim
a cantrl. wrote:
>Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw
March 11, 2004 12:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
> You obviously did not read my post carefully. I'm surprised. /Ben
>
>
> >Ben -
> >
> >I don't need to know you or your wife to know the arguments she
r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:50 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
>Mike-
>
>You obviously do not know my wife.
>
>And I strongly protest your implication that she is narrow-minded
>and that, even if w
ow.
-Kevin
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From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> heh... I looked at the site in the Netscape browser (7.1)
Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw by some "tolerant" catholic?
What's up with that? And why is it ok that 10 other people at the party were dressed as the devil himself and they didn't get slugged? Seems kinda whacky, no
oks about how Christ could not have
> existed keep popping up...
>
> M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:57 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
>
> My reli
http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html
No one ever tries, yet all these books about how Christ could not have
existed keep popping up...
M
-Original Message-
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:57 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Comments on
this stuff is (for that matter, if you
can't), I have no clue what I could say to open your eyes.
M
-Original Message-
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:50 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
Mike-
You obviously
that with acceptance tenets. I was trying to throw out a bone there
and say that religions aren't fundamentally about hate.
-Kevin
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From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, Mar
Good points, MikeyD. And my wife made it clear to me that her
points were strictly about Catholic vs. other Christian traditions,
and were not addressing Jewish, Islamic, etc. beliefs.
re: Jesus as intermediary, we told our kids that Daddy prays
directly to God, and Mommy prays to God through Je
the "attack" rules
>by espousing how believers are protected and even non-believers can be
>"saved".
>
>-Kevin
>
>
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>From: "Lyons, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL
Will-
please see my reply to M on how positively I reacted to your
excellent post. I'm sure my wife will too.
-Ben
>> My experience has
> > been that once someone has become so narrow minded as to accept that
> > this is the way things are, there is no amount of discussion that will
> > convince
t go. My experience has
>been that once someone has become so narrow minded as to accept that
>this is the way things are, there is no amount of discussion that will
>convince them otherwise.
>
>M
>
>-Original Message-
>From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
s can be
"saved".
-Kevin
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From: "Lyons, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
> Its not a matter of that person
> My experience has
> been that once someone has become so narrow minded as to accept that
> this is the way things are, there is no amount of discussion that will
> convince them otherwise.
That was my first thought, too, but then I thought, why be silent? As
long as *I'm* not spreading false
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From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
> Celibacy is breaking the commandment to be fruitful and multiply.
>Faith in Christ Jesus is faith in His death and resurrection. He is our
grace to get things done. Keeping the law is not faith. No one is good,
not >even one. If we could be "good" by trying harder, Christ would not
have had to come as our sacrifice. No amount of Hail Mary's will make you
>be
, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
> Larry -
>
> No doubt about Martin Luther. There is a perverted element to
> some of his writings, though I always thought his f
hy you are right.
M
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From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:21 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
Mike,
Unfortunately if you don't confront this sort of hate speech it spreads
and
like any other
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> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
>
>
> William -
>
> The arguments that Catholics think the Pope is God, that Mary
>
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From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church
Um... okay.
Have been Catholic since shortly after I was born, and though I don't
practice currently (I have my own issue
Um... okay.
Have been Catholic since shortly after I was born, and though I don't
practice currently (I have my own issues with the Church) I think I'm
well versed enough to be able to respond to many of the opinions (and
they are) below.
> Ben has asked me to respond to the question, In what
Appreciate all feedback, will share with Nel this weekend.
(We have a class tonight, out to dinner for daughter's 21st
birthday 3/8 tomorrow, going to Temple Friday night).
Also highly amused by all the Catholic google ads on this page.
-Ben
> A few threads back, I said that my wife had some iss
> Second, if you are interested in opinions about the apostasy ("falling
away") of the Catholic Church, one only has to look into the many books and
writings about the original Martin Luther and his 99 treatises that he
nailed to the cathedral doors in the 1700's. He and others, who were
finally r
Very good. The only things omitted was/is the sacraments. These are denounced
in the New Testament, and words to the effect that, "There will be no more
speaking in tongues, etc.
No flash and blood human has any deity, and does not have the devine power to
grant absolution in the eyes of the almi
Please thank her for her thoughtful insight.
Andy
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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:46 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Comments on Catholic Church
A few threads back, I said that my wife had some issues with the C
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