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> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I personally think that is a silly statement.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:14 pm
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
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> When I first moved up here my commute was
I was really impressed with Mexico when I was there. Veracruz especially.
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> We have friends from Panama. They're living in MN right now, but if
> they move back we'll have to crash in on them.
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> On 7/6/05, Erika L Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTE
We have friends from Panama. They're living in MN right now, but if
they move back we'll have to crash in on them.
On 7/6/05, Erika L Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One word: Panama
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:14 pm
To: CF-Community
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When I first moved up here my commute was from Manassas to Crofton in
Anne Arundel county. Going the opposite way d
well... I base my statement on conversations with a friend who has a
biracial daughter and lives there, and on the fact that a gas station
once refused to sell me gas there because I was in the "wrong" part of
town. I have no idea if this qualified as inner-city Cincy -- I was on
my way to the Aqua
All that racial hostility? I haven't noticd that in Cincy at all. If
anything I have seen more interracial marraiges/relationships here
than anywhere I have been. Now downtown inner city might be slightly
different, but most hostility there is more gang realted than race
related. My biggest gripe i
When I first moved up here my commute was from Manassas to Crofton in
Anne Arundel county. Going the opposite way during commuting hours
would have taken about twice as long - easily 2 hours one way per day.
Have you considered Woodbridge or Dale City in the southern part of
Prince William county.
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:59 am
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Yes. I lived in PG County for a while and there are some ok areas, but
the schools really do suck so I
right. When I was job-shopping looking to get out of DC, I was offered
a job in Richmond CA for five or six thousand more. Trouble was, as
far as I could tell I'd be communting at least a hundred miles one way
to make that work...I declined. I make less money in Albuquerque but I
also need less.
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> > From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The DC area is nuts, and Northern Virginia is the worst. I
> > have a three be
Hey, a if a couple more chip in, we have enough for an hour of
development time offshore!
On 7/6/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just my 2 cents.
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> > Jerry Johnson
> > Technologist
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> Plus my 2, makes 4 :)
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> -Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
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> I personally think that is a silly statement.
>
> I could make
>I probably could have stated my case more elegantly as well. It just
> always gets my goat when people tell me I "have to" to do something or
> I am "stupid".
>
> My point is that there are a LOT of programming jobs that have nothing
> to do with .net or Java.
Yes there are, good ones too, that p
> I'm sure you're right, I made a bad choice on the
> language, and that's really beside the point. The
> point is, as a web programmer, there are two
> 800-pound gorilla technologies that lord over the
> rest of the technologies. You ought to be able to
> tame one of them.
I've never liked gorill
One word: Panama
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##| We were actually looking at Argentina. But the government, fascists,
##| communists, and generally not nice people kind of ruled it out.
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> -Original Message-
> From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:06 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Here's a depressing little article
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> "And your statements are really, really ridiculous. Find an HTML job and
>
I probably could have stated my case more elegantly as well. It just
always gets my goat when people tell me I "have to" to do something or
I am "stupid".
My point is that there are a LOT of programming jobs that have nothing
to do with .net or Java. And the skill sets are not as available as
they
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From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:06 AM
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"And your statements are really, re
"And your statements are really, really ridiculous. Find an HTML job and get
paid $10/hr, if you're lucky. Yeah, somebody's got it good making $50,000/year
doing nothing but COBOL, but I but you can't get that job, no matter how good
you are at it."
There are tons of legacy COBOL positions in
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
I personally think that is a silly statement.
I cou
i don't think it's particularly silly. the more tools you have in the
toolbox, the better equipped you are to hammer in the screw :)
I'd also probably disagree with at least a couple of the statements
below. At the very least, the one that says one could make a 'good
living' doing nothing but HT
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Here's a depressin
I personally think that is a silly statement.
I could make a good living right now doing nothing but COBAL.
I could make a good living right now doing nothing but Foxpro.
I could make a good living right now doing nothing but Actionscript.
I could make a good living right now doing nothing but emb
I am lokoing at houses in 120-140s in Cincinnati Ohio 2-3 bedrooms 1-2
baths, some with basements partially finished. All of these well
within an hours car ride (in heavy traffic) to Downtown Cincy (about
20-30 miles).Since I tend to work early morning and leave early or
really late my trip is ussu
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From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:12 AM
To: CF-Community
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But what does the average CF
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From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:09 am
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> From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The DC area is nuts, and Northern Virginia is the worst. I
> have a three bedroom 30 year old two level condo (piggyback
> end unit) that's about three miles from the subway and 395
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> From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The DC area is nuts, and Northern Virginia is the worst. I
> have a three bedroom 30 year old two level condo (piggyback
> end unit) that's about three miles from
> From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The DC area is nuts, and Northern Virginia is the worst. I
> have a three bedroom 30 year old two level condo (piggyback
> end unit) that's about three miles from the subway and 395
> and the Capitol Beltway. I bough a year and a half ago for
> $217
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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 09:33 am
To: CF-Community
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Here's an example of the "good life" that we drive p
Here's an example of the "good life" that we drive past every day on
the way in to work.
http://madcityhomes.com/listing.asp?id=596
It's in a desireable neighborhood, but keep in mind that I can drive
from one end of Madison to the other in half an hour. Also keep in
mind that the median income in
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> Yes, and I've seen the butt ugly traffic backups down I-66 and route
> 28. Not a pretty site.
>
> larry
>
>
ecent
lifestyle then its worth it.
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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
No worries. Men can have healthy, motile sperm well into senility. Or
at least 70s.
-K
hand
> am 43.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:08 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
>
> the key is your wife's age. Children over 35 are possible, but th
She is 9 years younger than I. So when we had Kaitlyn she was a mere
31. Sarah is due any day now and Stephanie is 34. I on the other hand
am 43.
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:08 PM
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the key is your wife's age. Children over 35 are possible, but the
risks increase.
By the way, I am sure my income is very low compared to many on the
list, and we live pretty well. On the other hand, I had to get out of
DC -- in order to get a house with enough bedrooms, we had to move
Martinsbur
Sure it is. Just not for anything us men have to say.
altho, they've been saying it for a while now. i guess if you just
keep repeating something over and over you're bound to be right
eventually *
*disclaimer: to married men, this will not hold true during
discussions with your wives.
--
I waited until I was nearly 40 before having children my daughter
(Kaitlyn) is now 4 and my wife is due any day now with our second and
last child (another girl). I love my wife and daughter very much but
would highly recommend having your first child before 35. I'll be in
my late 50's when Kait
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:42 PM
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> My wife insisted we buy a house about 6 years ago. I wanted to wait
> another
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
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> > Larry wrote:
> > I'm surprised that anyone has children
> > in
On 7/5/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My wife insisted we buy a house about 6 years ago. I wanted to wait
> another year or two and put some more money together first. Had we
> waited we would have been priced out of the market. The 3 bedroom 1
> bath house we paid $106,000 for i
is no way we could buy our house today.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:18 PM
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> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAI
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:23 PM
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> I am from Elmira, NY and everytime I go home I think about the house and
>
> Larry wrote:
> I'm surprised that anyone has children
> in this area.
>
That's trick my wife and I are using.
We both come from lower middle class backgrounds and so had lots of
school debt and no good "fast start" advice when growing up. Being
lower middle class also means you don't have man
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Whew, Elmira? I drove through there once and was, um, very,
> um, sympathetic to the poeple living there. I'll just leave
> it at that.
It was a great place to grow up. It has gone down hill over the last 15
years or so... it doesn't help that
Whew, Elmira? I drove through there once and was, um, very, um,
sympathetic to the poeple living there. I'll just leave it at that.
Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
>>From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>That's what we did - although in our case it was because
>>child care ended costing mo
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That's what we did - although in our case it was because
> child care ended costing more than my wife made.
>
> Still - I make more than twice what my father ever did in his
> life and I'm not close to affording ANY house in the Boston
> area much
You're lucky... There are a lot of us in the disposessed crowd.
I would carve out my left testicle with my own hands and no anasthetic
to have a family... a real one... the only experience I have to let me
know what I'm missing is the 6-week summer-camp I attended for 7 years
while I was growing u
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> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:23 PM
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> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Of course, wom
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 04:10 pm
To: CF-Community
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Yes, and I've seen the
Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
> 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300
> Chantilly, VA 20151
> Phone: (703) 995-1737
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:42 pm
> To: CF-Communit
I dunno. I'm inundated by families wherever I go.
On 7/5/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll not get into my rant about the diminishing size of physical
> community / family groups leading up to a culture composed almost
> entirely of misanthropic metrosexuals.
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>> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Of course, women shouldn't work at all.
>> http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-book-exc
>> erpts.html
>>
>> -Kevin
> I think it is awesome if a parent can be at home with the
> child(ren) instead
> of sending them off to day care, et
> I wish that it wasn't necessary for both members of the
> household to work in order to make ends meet in the US.
> That does not apply to myself, but for many people my
> age it does. The family no longer has much of a choice
> in whether or not both spouses work. When the husband
> & wife ma
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If you go for any of those, there are some good side roads to help you
avoid the rte 28, 29, or I-66 backups.
larry
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If you go for any of those, there are some good side roads to help you
avoid the rte 28, 29, or I-66 backups.
larry
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> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:32 pm
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> I
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:32 pm
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Here's a depressing little article
Importan
Now there's a good provocative title for an article:
"Santorum: Liberalism Bad, Clergy Sex Abuse Not So Much"
> Of course, women shouldn't work at all.
> http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-book-exce
> rpts.html
> -Kevin
> On 7/5/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It's abo
ring Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
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> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:23 pm
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td. (ECS)
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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:23 pm
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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:13 PM
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Of course, women shouldn't work at all.
http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-bo
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Of course, women shouldn't work at all.
> http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-book-excerpts.html
>
> -Kevin
I think it is awesome if a parent can be at home with the child(ren) instead
of sending them off to day care, etc. Families
Of course, women shouldn't work at all.
http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-book-excerpts.html
-Kevin
On 7/5/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's about what it takes (monetarily) to live the "good life"
>
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/forbes/P121206.asp?GT1
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