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From: Tim Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:40 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
The New American Standard (NASB) is a more literal translations (word for
word) whereas the NIV leans towards dyan
o, for me, it strikes me as a scholarly
> translation.
>
> H.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:08 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
I think they should cast off their thongs.
;-)
-Ben
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> I think
t was Matthew,
but I can't remember for sure). So, for me, it strikes me as a scholarly
translation.
H.
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From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:08 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article l
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> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 18 April 2002 04:31
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >
> >
> > >I am going t
Phil-
hope you're feeling better...
-Ben
> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:27 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> I would have
-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
Well, it depends upon what translation you're using. For instance, I
remember learning in school that there have been some serious
mistranslations with the King James version, which is the one you hear
about a lot. (H
Message-
> > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 18 April 2002 04:31
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >
> >
> > >I am going to have to re-read the Old Testament, and o
Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> >I am going to have to re-read the Old Testament, and once I've done
> >this, I'll probably go through others like the Torah - I intended on
> >doing this several years ago, but didn't get all of the
&g
>I am going to have to re-read the Old Testament, and once I've done
>this, I'll probably go through others like the Torah - I intended on
>doing this several years ago, but didn't get all of the books (and now
>I'm not sure if I still have those I originally bought)
Uh, Phillip -- What Christian
re right??
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>>|
>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| Sent: 15 April 2002 18:58
>>| To: CF-Community
>>| Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision
>>| article link))
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&
Does that make Erika a Philistine?
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>
>
> You worship p
(was: Circumcision article link))
I finally realized today, that I am religious. I worship someone and
something!!!
I worship my husband Phil!!!
;)
E with a K
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>>|From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|Oh, you'd be qui
il 16, 2002 7:00 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
So you worship and revere something you cannot ever hope to understand.
Something that has no responsibility for anything you do,
yet something whom you ascribe 'Goodness' to.
Int
Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> As for the righteous indignation Jesus displayed. As we know
> from the OT (or Torah), God has often displayed his wrath at
> those who reject him or reject his commands.
Disp
.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 April 2002 17:42
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> Phillip,
>
> Keep in mind -- there was no Torah to follow until
Phillip,
Keep in mind -- there was no Torah to follow until it was given at Mount Sinai.
When Adam and Eve were created, there was only one commandment to follow:
Do not eat from the tree of knowledge.
As for the question of how they populated the earth, I believe there are
midrashim that exp
ly. Some of the biggest names
in science as well. Enjoy being boggled. :)
>-Original Message-
>From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 16 April 2002 10:29
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
>> B
So you worship and revere something you cannot ever hope to understand.
Something that has no responsibility for anything you do,
yet something whom you ascribe 'Goodness' to.
Interesting.
-Gel
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From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
We are responsible for
Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> I don't know. Someone might think we were throwing kittens
>
> e
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> S
> Hey...people believe that if they follow his teachings that everythign
> will be hunky dory, and he is Responsible for Saving them...don't they?
No, not really. Jesus said that following him would be hard. Many people
died because of it and are dying today as well.
>
> So someone is responsib
o: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> But is death/killing an end or a beginning ?
> Say for example that I am a Catholic and I BELIEVE and live my life
> according to the book then a Muslam who BELIEVES and lives his life
> according the book kills
> But is death/killing an end or a beginning ?
> Say for example that I am a Catholic and I BELIEVE and live my life
> according to the book then a Muslam who BELIEVES and lives his life
> according the book kills me and himself in a suicide attack:
> Who will go to Heaven first ?
Isn't suicide a
ssage d'origine-
De : Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:47 AM
À : CF-Community
Objet : RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> As for the righteous indignation Jesus displayed. As we know
> from the OT (or Torah), God has
> 8 people left, not even enough for a football team, could
> this be proof god is a woman?
Not only that, but it proves that the Bible condones incest...
Think about this for a second...
In the Beginning there was Adam and Eve, they had 2 sons, Kane and Abel
- Kane killed Abel leaving only the
8 people left, not even enough for a football team, could this be proof god
is a woman?
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From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 April 2002 09:47
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> As for the righte
> As for the righteous indignation Jesus displayed. As we know
> from the OT (or Torah), God has often displayed his wrath at
> those who reject him or reject his commands.
Displayed His wrath? Hang on, he KILLED the whole population of the
Earth apart from 8 people... EIGHT PEOPLE... That's one
> Amalak ... is that anything like Aflack?
Didn't he star in and write Good Will Hunting?
Philip Arnold
Technical Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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> I don't know. Someone might think we were throwing kittens
Hmm, what is that Steve Martin film with the kitten juggling? The Jerk
isn't it?
Philip Arnold
Technical Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133
F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911
An ISO9001 regis
den [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
Err - so what - Jesus should come back down and yell 'stop it'? Sorry,
but that seems like a ridiculous argument. Last time I checked, -we-
were
: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:23 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> Jesus cast "out" the money lenders - not "down." In other
> words, be booted them out of the temple.
applied as a logical result.
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Envoyé : Monday, April 15, 2002 9:09 AM
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Objet : Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
I'm sure I can research and answer your question easily, but it
6:17 PM
À : CF-Community
Objet : Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
Then someone has been getting the message confused a few times.
At 11:57 AM 4/15/02, you wrote:
>There is nothing in the Christian religion that condones killing! As a
matter of fact, Jesus preached about turnin
AFLACK!
(Sorry - couldn't help myself)
-Original Message-
From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:08 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >If someone proved..thorugh theory and theology etc. who this
I don't know. Someone might think we were throwing kittens
e
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
I thought the kitten was not lettin
: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> I think chiro is the chiro-quack?
>
> e
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Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at
http://www
I think chiro is the chiro-quack?
e
-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:24 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
Chiro's the kitten then.
pity I rather liked muffin.
You're quacking up, Todd...
> -Original Message-
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:08 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> > >If someone proved..thorugh t
This list has been canceled for excessive use of puns...
Now, go home (paraphrased from Tracey Ullman)
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From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:20 PM
> Hey...people believe that if they follow his teachings that everythign
> will be hunky dory, and he is Responsible for Saving
> them...don't they?
I never said people weren't stupid. ;) There are _plenty_ of stupid
people out there, and they are members of _all_ the religions, as well
as athie
DUCK!
Todd wrote:
>>>If someone proved..thorugh theory and theology etc. who this Amalak was,
>>>tehre coul dbe people gunning to kill this guy.
>>>Because of God!
>>>
>>Its not theory or theology, it has to be 1000% fact. The only way to know
>>
> for sure is to hear it directly from God. The l
> >If someone proved..thorugh theory and theology etc. who this Amalak was,
> >tehre coul dbe people gunning to kill this guy.
> >Because of God!
> Its not theory or theology, it has to be 1000% fact. The only way to know
for sure is to hear it directly from God. The laws, especially those that
de
>If someone proved..thorugh theory and theology etc. who this Amalak was,
>tehre coul dbe people gunning to kill this guy.
>Because of God!
Its not theory or theology, it has to be 1000% fact. The only way to know for sure is
to hear it directly from God. The laws, especially those that deal with
And this is PRECISELY what I am talking about.
And why I think that organised religion in the way it exists today, is
NOT a good thing.
If someone proved..thorugh theory and theology etc. who this Amalak was,
tehre coul dbe people gunning to kill this guy.
Because of God!
This is precisely the
2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
Err - so what - Jesus should come back down and yell 'stop it'? Sorry,
but that seems like a ridiculous argument. Last time I checked, -we-
were responsible for what we did, not God. How is Jes
: http://www.ebstor.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:42 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject:
> I thought the kitten was not letting you go in front of the
> computer. I was thinking smart cat.
>
> Muffin still sounds better, considering...
He snoops into EVERYTHING (as well as attacking a lot of stationary
objects), so Snoopy seems to stick... It was either that or Kujo...
Philip Arnol
April 15, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> Actually, chiro = chiropractor, was being lazy ... and kitten
> is called
> Snoopy. :)
>
> Erika
> with a K
>
Does this merge with the thread about religion and sex?
;-)
-Ben
> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:23 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article lin
gt;>|To: CF-Community
>>|Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>>|
>>|
>>|Chiro's the kitten then.
>>|
>>|pity I rather liked muffin.
>>|
>>|larry
>>|
>>|--
>>|Larry C. Lyons
>>|ColdFusion/Web Developer
://www.pacel.com
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcisi
r.com
http://www.pacel.com
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:51 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jew
> Jesus cast "out" the money lenders - not "down." In other
> words, be booted them out of the temple.
Same thing really - he used violence to get them out, he didn't speak to
them and they left, he CAST THEM OUT - in other words, he physically
removed them
Whether they were defiling the temple
> I finally realized today, that I am religious. I worship someone and
> something!!!
>
> I worship my husband Phil!!!
Watch it wifey or they'll cast you out for worshiping a False Idol
Philip Arnold
Technical Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133
> So Bob. A few questions if I may ...
>
> Do you mind that Todd is running for President?
No. It keeps me entertained.
> What will your role in his life be, should he succeed?
I'm afraid I can not reveal my plans at this time. I must prepare.
> Do you appreciate the fact that he wants to nu
So Bob. A few questions if I may ...
Do you mind that Todd is running for President?
What will your role in his life be, should he succeed?
Do you appreciate the fact that he wants to nuke everyone?
And where were you when he had interns under his desk???
Does he make you knit sweaters?
Do you
:)
>>|-Original Message-
>>|From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|But can't you see?
>>|
>>|I LIKE being bapped.
>>|
>>|Can't get enough of it around here, and all my girlfriends say
>>|"That'll cost extra".
>
I finally realized today, that I am religious. I worship someone and
something!!!
I worship my husband Phil!!!
;)
E with a K
>>|-Original Message-
>>|From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|Oh, you'd be quite surprised. ;)
>>|
>>|At 01:39 PM 4/15/02, you wrote:
>>|>I d
But can't you see?
I LIKE being bapped.
Can't get enough of it around here, and all my girlfriends say "That'll cost extra".
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/15/02 01:51PM >>>
>>|-Original Message-
>>|From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|I will try to watch my
omedia ColdFusion Alliance Partner
> Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer
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>
> >>|-Original Message-
> >>|From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>|Sent: 15 April 2002 18:23
> >>|To: CF-Community
> >>
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:32 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>>
>>
>> How we moved from religion to sex is amazing and yes, th
>>|-Original Message-
>>|From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|enough to drive you 6 feet under.
>>|
Great Series Can't wait for it to be on DVD. (no HBO here, obviously)
E with a K, missing "6 Feet Under"
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>>|-Original Message-
>>|From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|I will try to watch my words and statements more
>>|closely in the future.
Yeah! Or we'll muffin-pan-bap you!
;)
E with a K
Catching up on list email. Having bad back problems, and chiro just gave me
permiss
m: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|Sent: 15 April 2002 18:23
>>|To: CF-Community
>>|Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>>|
>>|
>>|Actually, I think sex with food could be an entirely different thing than
>>|food with sex ;)
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> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:58 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> Sure,
>
> But I don't hold the Beatles responsible for Manson's
> actions, or Jody Foster for Reagan's
rent thing than
> >food with sex ;)
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:17 PM
&g
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:25 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision
> article link))
> >
> >
> > That's why I love reincarnation. You just keep coming and
> > coming and...
> >
&g
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
&g
gt;From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:17 PM
>Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>
>
>> Or vice versa
>> (especially the vice)...
>
I guess it depends on who/what you're eating!
> -Original Message-
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>
>
> Actually, I
-
From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:45 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
> I hope this comment does not offend anyone.
> Apologies if it does.
> (It probably will.)
I'm sorry, but I'm off
t; -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:13 AM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision
> article link))
> >>
> >
RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
> Or vice versa
> (especially the vice)...
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:17 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: B
t; Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:13 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>>
>>
>> But at least with sex you've got your partner right there
>> (unless its remote porn).
>>
>>
Or vice versa
(especially the vice)...
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:17 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>
>
> Or, sex with foo
Larry-
yes, it is too deep for me!
:-)
-Ben
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> > Sorry, I just
Money lenders in the temple were considered blashpemers and so they were cast out of
the temple...
- Original Message -
From: "Philip Arnold - ASP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:52 PM
Jesus cast "out" the money lenders - not "down." In other words, be booted them out
of the temple.
- Original Message -
From: "Philip Arnold - ASP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, Apri
And if you're lucky, there can even be a second coming!
-Ben
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:13 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
Or, sex with food...
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From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
> Todd-
>
>
unity
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>
>
> I hope this comment does not offend anyone.
> Apologies if it does.
> (It probably will.)
>
> But the whole "second coming" belief in Christianity sounds
> to me like it
> didn'
t; -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:43 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
>>
>>
>> Don't worry, I'm not taking it pe
At 12:52 PM 4/15/02, Philip wrote:
>Again I bring up the Money Lenders - he sure didn't turn the other cheek
>at that point!
Not anger. Righteous indignation.
They were defiling the temple. He ran them out.
Much as I would do if ditech.com set up shop in my sanctuary.
CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:48 PM
>Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link))
>
>
>> Todd-
>>
>> Clear it up?
>> Yes and no.
>> Thanks for trying.
>>
heh .. like sex is any less complicated ;)
Todd
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From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Ben (Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article l
> There is nothing in the Christian religion that condones
> killing! As a matter of fact, Jesus preached about turning the other
> cheek.
Again I bring up the Money Lenders - he sure didn't turn the other cheek
at that point!
Philip Arnold
Technical Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP
> Actually, if you ask some one to kill some one, even in jest,
> and the person
> does it, you are accessory to murder. There's a long legal tradition
> supporting that, and rightfully so.
>
> On the religious question, however, I don't know any passage
> in the Bible where Jesus says to kill pe
I'm just going to address these two points:
>> This is especially true re: Catholics. When my son was 6 years old, he
>> pointed to a statue of Jesus in somebody's car and said he thought that
>was
>> idolatry and violated the commandment about graven images.
>
>This isn't idoltry either. Idoltry
At 11:57 AM 4/15/02, you wrote:
>There is nothing in the Christian religion that condones killing! As a
>matter of fact, Jesus preached about turning the other cheek.
This is true, but his fan clubs have been armed for ages.
It's the political structure of organized religion that has been the
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> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
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> > Jerry-
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> > I think your comment to Michael "> As for the word of
> Jerry-
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> I think your comment to Michael "> As for the word of God, is He talking
to
> you again? Congrats." was tacky, rude, and uncalled for.
>
> You took a devout, fine person, and more than implied he's hearing voices
in
> his head.
This isn't normal?
Todd and Bob
> He's referring to wr
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> > I hope this comment does not offend anyone.
> > Apologies if it does.
> > (It probably will.)
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> I'm sorry, but I'm offended. I must nuke you now.
>
> > But the whole "sec
> I hope this comment does not offend anyone.
> Apologies if it does.
> (It probably will.)
I'm sorry, but I'm offended. I must nuke you now.
> But the whole "second coming" belief in Christianity sounds to me like it
> didn't work right the first time, so stay tuned for the sequel, it will
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> Don't worry, I'm not taking it personally but as something
> said in the heat of debate (again, something I w
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>> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:58 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
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>> Sure,
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>> But I don't hold the
> I don't know of one war that Jesus brought. Name one.
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> Oh, and don't name wars that man brought in Jesus's name -- that isn't
> Jesus's doing.
Hang on, since Hitler wasn't in the front line, he only gave the orders,
doesn't that mean that the Nazi's were doing it in Hitler's name,
therefore
> I don't agree. Sure, a commander is somewhat responsible for
> his troops but in no way can God be held accountable for what evil is
> done in His name!
So, is the killing of the Eyptians by Moses and the destruction of
Soddom and Gomorogh not God's responsibility?
And if killing all of those
> But nobody has ever killed at the command of Jesus.
>
> There are those who think they've been commanded to kill, but
> their thinking it doesn't make it so.
Who is to judge who has be spoken to by Jesus and who hasn't?
For all we know, He maybe giving commands to people, but how can you
prove
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>> I guess that's why theres a need for a second coming in Christianity. To set people
>straig
gt;in order to kill. Christians, Muslims, Jews - you can find examples in all faiths..
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