> Nick wrote:
> OK, so your statement was based on a definition in your head that was
> different than that of the standard dictionary definition.
>
> That is one of my pet peeves.
>
Well luckily I didn't violate it:
bank·rupt Pronunciation Key (bngkrpt, -rpt)
adj.
1. Financially ruined; i
CF-Community
> Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> > Sam wrote:
> > I know I'm being anal but you've been saying this for years and it's
> > an outright lie. I just wanted to point that out. :P
> >
>
> I will maintain my
Please please please name at least ONE.
On 6/20/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Use in a sentence: All 4 companies that George Bush had controlling
> operations interest in went bankrupt.
>
> Use in a sentence 2: Due to bankruptcy, those companies that George
> Bush left in better financial shape when he
> Sam wrote:
> I know I'm being anal but you've been saying this for years and it's
> an outright lie. I just wanted to point that out. :P
>
I will maintain my position but I will define "bankrupt":
Bankrupt: a company who's liabilities outweigh its assets such that it
is no longer able to operat
I was asking for a bankrupt company name. So you don't like his
business strategy and that's fair, I never claimed I did. We're
discussing the four companies he's started that went bankrupt. Since
there is not even one that went bankrupt can you change your attacks
to something like: my friends thi
> Sam wrote:
> You're like Gephardt with all your imaginary friends. Can you please
> ask one of these figments to name at least one?
>
It's irrelevant. Let's look at the 2 cases to see why:
1.) I'm right. You'll still like Bush, still thinks he's a good
strategist, still trust him.
2.) I'm wro
You're like Gephardt with all your imaginary friends. Can you please
ask one of these figments to name at least one?
On 6/20/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> What I'm saying is this: it's accepted fact amongst the HBS-type
> circles that Bush single-handedly destroyed 4 businesses through risky
> or just p
The company was all ready deep in the red when Bush signed on. He used
Enron style bookkeeping practice to hide the debt, except he did it to
save the company not to steal the money. He used his connections at
Harvard, where he'd just graduated. Harvard bailed out the company and
made a return on t
t; From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> Well, it apparently wan't known by you ;) but it's been out there for
> several years at least.
>
&
why? I only have a few minutes and don't have time to parse the differences.
What's your point, Sam?
> I like this one better:
> http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypolicies/harvardharkenwsj.html
>
>
>
> On 6/19/06, Dana Tierney wrote:
> > hmm. It seems that Harvard University bailed it out. Dadd
;it goes away.
>
>It all revolves around a long line of coincidences that can't be linked.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:41 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovere
> gMoney wrote:
> So instead of bankrupting the company, he used his connections to save the
> company, is that what we are saying now?
>
What I'm saying is this: it's accepted fact amongst the HBS-type
circles that Bush single-handedly destroyed 4 businesses through risky
or just plain stupid man
So instead of bankrupting the company, he used his connections to save the
company, is that what we are saying now?
On 6/19/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hmm. It seems that Harvard University bailed it out. Daddy was US
> vicepresident at the time.
>
> http://foi.missouri.edu/use
I like this one better:
http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypolicies/harvardharkenwsj.html
On 6/19/06, Dana Tierney wrote:
> hmm. It seems that Harvard University bailed it out. Daddy was US
> vicepresident at the time.
>
> http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypolicies/harvardharkenglobe.html
>
~~~
dences that can't be linked.
-Original Message-
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harken_Energy_Scandal
::shrug:: this
more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harken_Energy_Scandal
::shrug:: this stuff has been known for quite a while.
Dana
> hmm. It seems that Harvard University bailed it out. Daddy was US
> vicepresident at the time.
>
> http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypolicies/harvardharkenglobe.html
>
hmm. It seems that Harvard University bailed it out. Daddy was US vicepresident
at the time.
http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypolicies/harvardharkenglobe.html
> the fact that it is still around does not mean it did not go broke. In
> fact, some people think that that is what these businesses we
the fact that it is still around does not mean it did not go broke. In fact,
some people think that that is what these businesses were for... a way to get W
some spending money.
>You're trying to change the subject by dragging in old dirt.
>Harpin is still in business. Where are the bankrupt com
Interesting. Not only was Harken never in ch7 or ch 11, it appears
Bush saved the debt-ridden company by getting Harvard to lend them
money. In they end everyone did quite well.
On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> There's a difference between ch 7 and ch 11.
But just because a business filed for bankruptcy doesn't mean that it was in
trouble of failing.
Look at Donald Trump, he uses bankruptcy as a tool.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Exactly! I was just saying that you can't say since a business is s
No, but bankruptcy is not a good sign for a business. It does not mean the
people in charge are doing a good job.
On 6/19/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're trying to change the subject by dragging in old dirt. Harpin is
> still in business. Where are the bankrupt companies?
>
>
No, but bankruptcy is not a good sign for a business. It does not mean
the people in charge are doing a good job.
Although, it probably means the same people that drove the business
into bankruptcy are about to get a significant raise.
On 6/19/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're t
> Sam wrote:
> You're trying to change the subject by dragging in old dirt.
> Harpin is still in business. Where are the bankrupt companies?
>
There's a difference between ch 7 and ch 11.
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You're trying to change the subject by dragging in old dirt. Harpin is still in
business. Where are the bankrupt companies?
Bankruptcy != out of business.
In fact the whole point of Bankruptcy is usually to try and save the business
so it can keep running.
--
Ian Skinner
Web Pro
You're trying to change the subject by dragging in old dirt.
Harpin is still in business. Where are the bankrupt companies?
On 6/19/06, Dana Tierney wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harken_Energy
>
> when you google Harken and BCCI you get even more interesting results:
>
> http://www.washi
don't have time to dig the details out for you but I saw something about the
stock price dropping to twenty cents on the dollar, which would seem to
indicate that if it's still around it probably did do a chapter 7. Now I really
do have to go, bye.
> First two didn't go bankrupt, didn't Soros o
First two didn't go bankrupt, didn't Soros own the Harken?
On 6/19/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> psst Sam Google Arbusto Energy Inc, Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation and Harken
> Energy Corporation. There may be others but I need to go.
>
> Dana
~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harken_Energy
when you google Harken and BCCI you get even more interesting results:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html
>I thought so. If you can't come up with one, why do you keep saying it?
>
>On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
>>
psst Sam Google Arbusto Energy Inc, Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation and Harken
Energy Corporation. There may be others but I need to go.
Dana
>I thought so. If you can't come up with one, why do you keep saying it?
>
>On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
>>
~~
there's more than one, Sam. The truth is out there ;)
>Why do you keep sneaking this in? Last time I called you on it you
>couldn't even come up with one bankrupt company.
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Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i
there's more than one, Sam. The truth is out there ;)
>Why do you keep sneaking this in? Last time I called you on it you
>couldn't even come up with one bankrupt company.
~|
Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i
I thought so. If you can't come up with one, why do you keep saying it?
On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> > Sam wrote:
> > Why do you keep sneaking this in? Last time I called you on it you
> > couldn't even come up with one bankrupt company.
> >
>
> Because it's true. Let's try it the other way -
> Nick wrote:
> " Because it's true. Let's try it the other way - you find all of the
> business he didn't bankrupt. FYI - there aren't any."
>
> Nope he just said business he didn't bankrupt
>
Just to be clear, here's how this went:
: "I've got lots of money but these pesky
laws are preventing
> tBone wrote:
> He said started.
>
And he's not the controlling owner but a "silent" partner. For good
reason. You don't want Bush talking during a business meeting or
bankruptcy will result.
~|
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Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> He said started.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:34 PM
> &
He said started.
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:34 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> You asked for a business that he was an owner of that he did n
You asked for a business that he was an owner of that he did not bankrupt.
The answer is still The Texas Rangerswhatever caveats you are NOW
putting on your request :)
On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > gMoney wrote:
> > Texas Rangers?
> >
>
> He didn't start that busines
> gMoney wrote:
> Texas Rangers?
>
He didn't start that business, was recommended (told) to invest by the
owner, but didn't have the money (an HBS MBA in his 50s didn't have
the money!!!), so the owner lent him the money.
This was all done basically to get Bush as Governor so the owner would bene
Texas Rangers?
On 6/19/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sam wrote:
> > Why do you keep sneaking this in? Last time I called you on it you
> > couldn't even come up with one bankrupt company.
> >
>
> Because it's true. Let's try it the other way - you find all of the
> business he d
> Sam wrote:
> Taking one is legal but taking two is illegal. That's a far cry from
> cocaine or heroin which is always illegal and where many people might
> have died to get the product to you.
>
You're mistaken. Read the Controlled Substances Act. Oxycontin is a
"schedule II" controlled substa
> Sam wrote:
> Why do you keep sneaking this in? Last time I called you on it you
> couldn't even come up with one bankrupt company.
>
Because it's true. Let's try it the other way - you find all of the
business he didn't bankrupt. FYI - there aren't any.
On 6/16/06, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Which is why we should have never invaded in the first place. It is a
> microcosm of George Bush's business philosophy: spend a fortune on a
> high risk endeavor and hope for the best. Being that he bankrupted
> all 4 companies he started I wonder if Iraq will turn
Oxycontin is a regulated drug, which is what you advocate for all hard
drugs. It is a prescription drug that is very addicting. The addiction
forms from legal use.
Taking one is legal but taking two is illegal. That's a far cry from
cocaine or heroin which is always illegal and where many people mi
Bin Laden a US creation? No way. Bin Laden is a creation of Islamo-fascism-
fundamentalist and Wahhabist Islam in the last fifty years. If anything both
of themn were creations of the Soviet war in Afghanistan.
As for Zarqawi, he was in Iraq before the invasion.
On 6/16/06, Gruss wrote:
>
>
>
> I
--- On Friday, June 16, 2006 6:34 PM, Sam scribed: ---
>
> He's somewhat right; it ruined his hearing and almost destroyed his
> career. Good thing he got help.
> Sounds like he's talking about illegal drugs not prescription.
He made his presciption drugs illegal by obtaining them illegally.
> Bu
> RoMunn wrote:
> I disagree. Bin Laden has never had operational control of Zarqawi or
> (apparently) of anything going on in Iraq. There has been plenty of
> "executive level" communication and coordination, but nothing operational
> apart from Bin Laden and Zawahiri complaining about Zarqawi's t
> Sam wrote:
> two ago with regulated drugs. If he says that now about prescription
> drug users than he's definitely a hypocrite.
>
Using prescription drugs without a prescription, or one obtained via
fraud, is illegal. Thus making those drugs illegal, thus making his
use illegal, thus putting h
mark your calendars.
>He's somewhat right; it ruined his hearing and almost destroyed his
>career. Good thing he got help.
>Sounds like he's talking about illegal drugs not prescription.
>But you're right it does make him kind of a hypocrite.
>That was 11 years ago and illegal drugs, his addiction
He's somewhat right; it ruined his hearing and almost destroyed his
career. Good thing he got help.
Sounds like he's talking about illegal drugs not prescription.
But you're right it does make him kind of a hypocrite.
That was 11 years ago and illegal drugs, his addiction was a year or
two ago with
I disagree. Bin Laden has never had operational control of Zarqawi or
(apparently) of anything going on in Iraq. There has been plenty of
"executive level" communication and coordination, but nothing operational
apart from Bin Laden and Zawahiri complaining about Zarqawi's tactics.
As for the chan
> RoMunn wrote:
> we would
> have not killed Zarqawi and recovered all that intel from his safe house.
>
Think of the intelligence we'd gain if we actually used our forces to
capture Bin Laden! Had we not been bogged down in a quagmire we'd
probably have taken out Bin Laden and most of Al Quaeda
Limbaugh quotes - sounds like a good Friday afternoon exercise.
#
There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It
destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is
destroying this country. And we
I was in a good mood with a little Knob Creek hangover, but now I'm in
a not so good mood. Because of that, you will all have to suffer
another Limbaugh quote :)
"Despite these documents, which have been verified in the presence of
Drive-By Media members, the reporting has been just the opposite
b
Murtha has lost all credibility. If we had listened to that fool, we have no
idea if the Iraqis would have even formed a government by now, and we would
have not killed Zarqawi and recovered all that intel from his safe house.
1. Possible, but that's the chance we take. They have to want a free an
> Jerry wrote:
> But the entire thing really comes back to: are the Iraqis willing to
> stand up and shoulder the responsibility. Not just the police, who are
> paying a heavy price, but the "Iraqi people" as a whole.
>
Exactly. I fail to see any good news, but that's because I'm
conservative abo
huh what? I just got online for the first time in a couple of days. I haven't
seen the story yet but if it's AP or UPI was it? I am sure the news conference
was held. The timeline for withdrawal actually sounds a lot like the one
announced by the Americans a week or so ago.
Other than that, hm
In this respect, the most encouraging thing to me is how Iraqi leaders are
taking the initiative and saying, "We are going to do x, and the coalition
will be able to leave." Exactly what they needed, some real leadership.
On 6/16/06, Jerry wrote:
>
>
> But the entire thing really comes back to: a
I just don't want to get my hopes up, without something definitive.
I agree, the killing of Zarqawi was a great thing. And the capture of
the documents will probably be even more important in the long run.
I am very excited about the possibilities.
But the entire thing really comes back to: are
; Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> I haven't seen any of this on the news, and without a link, couldn't
> see what you were referencing.
>
> The only thing I saw was a few sent
I haven't seen any of this on the news, and without a link, couldn't
see what you were referencing.
The only thing I saw was a few sentences by the Iraq Defense Minister
(I think), claiming that everything is going great, and that they have
Al-Qaeda on the run, and was basically making fun of them
; > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
> >
> > woo-hoo!
> >
> > On 6/15/06, deadcityskin wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow,
> > >
> > > For some reason when ever I try and copy and paste part of
I was going to say, no one is talking about this??
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: treasure trove of documents recovered in Iraq
>
> woo-hoo!
>
&g
woo-hoo!
On 6/15/06, deadcityskin wrote:
>
> Wow,
>
> For some reason when ever I try and copy and paste part of that article
> over
> here it attaches instead.
>
> Weird.
>
> Incredible news. All troops home possibly by 2008.
>
> Almost immediate troop reductions.
>
> Fucking amazing news.
Wow,
For some reason when ever I try and copy and paste part of that article over
here it attaches instead.
Weird.
Incredible news. All troops home possibly by 2008.
Almost immediate troop reductions.
Fucking amazing news.
Hey look, we're winning.
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert
Hey Dana.
What is it you do with prisoners of war when the fighting's over?
Oh that's right, you release them.
Marshall Plan 2 enroute, wow this could be cool. Detainees being released.
Troops coming home. Damn.
Wow, so they gave the Sunni the defense minister slot, the Sunni gave up the
lead
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