Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What has he [JT] done besides SNL that would make you proud of being a fan? Alyssa Milano, Cameron Diaz, Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Biel (in that order). ... ~|

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Tony
reply of the year. On Friday, December 16, 2011, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What has he [JT] done besides SNL that would make you proud of being a fan? Alyssa Milano, Cameron Diaz, Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Biel

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Medic
No but I can recognize talent without having to like the music. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Should I put you down as a JT fanboy? Which of his posters is on your wall? . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Opinions

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What has he [JT] done besides SNL that would make you proud of being a fan? Alyssa Milano, Cameron Diaz, Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Biel (in that

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Sam
What's the talent? Can he sing or write music? Do you think he can act? Hook up with hotties? OK I'll give him that as a talent but that's it. . On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: No but I can recognize talent without having to like the music. On Thu, Dec 15,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What's the talent? Can he sing or write music? Yes, he can sing and write music. It's not my style of music, but he's been VERY successful at it and is widely respected by everyone else in the business. Do you think he can

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? thanks for the reminder - she's from Ottawa-Hull. Let me rephrase, as a Canadian I'd like to apologise for Justin Beiber

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
no wonder he has a smug look on his face most of the time. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What has he [JT] done besides SNL that would make you proud of being a fan? Alyssa Milano,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Cameron Childress
Seriously. Speaking of Hall of Fame - that's like my top five list's Hall of Fame. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: no wonder he has a smug look on his face most of the time. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Ras Tafari
i love scarlett and her johansson's!! On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously. Speaking of Hall of Fame - that's like my top five list's Hall of Fame. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: no wonder he

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Sam
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:12 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, he can sing and write music. It's not my style of music, but he's been VERY successful at it and is widely respected by everyone else in the business. You're caught up in the pop star equals talent again. It's a simple

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You're caught up in the pop star equals talent again. It's a simple formula and the masses love it. I recognize it as crap. Huhlet me ask you this: Is it possible to be talented in an area that you don't like, and if so, how

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Huhlet me ask you this: Is it possible to be talented in an area that you don't like, and if so, how do you recognize it? I know you weren't asking me, but I have thought about this sort of thing before and thought I'd

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: I know you weren't asking me, but I have thought about this sort of thing before and thought I'd give my answer. I am very willing to recognize talent and skill in any genre of music, even genres I don't like.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Cameron Childress
I don't expect someone to even really pay their dues. They just have to prove they have some level of talent that it actually their fault and not a trained muppet. John Mayer for example - many people think of him as a pop star blip on the radar, but I have seen that guy give a live performance

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: I don't expect someone to even really pay their dues. They just have to prove they have some level of talent that it actually their fault and not a trained muppet. John Mayer for example - many people think of

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Sam
Of course Sting Bono Christina Aguilara The Monkeys I can go on but you get the point. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Huhlet me ask you this: Is it possible to be talented in an area that you don't like, and if so, how do you recognize it? If you hate

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-16 Thread Sam
I forgot about that. He does currently have talent. Sorry I forgot about that. . On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: JT?  That white boy can dance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: As a pop singer Brittany spears is genius. As a rock star she sucks. Same with MJ. I've heard many drummers criticize Peart. They say he's a good technical drummer but not an emotional one like Bonham was. But if you don't

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I loved rush in the 70's and 80's. Do they have any music since then worth listening to? I quit listening to them after Counterparts...which was, what, mid 90's? But for a while thereA Farewell to Kings, Moving Pictures,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
I'm saying just respecting a musician doesn't mean you'll get it when people say one was a better drummer. If you don't feel the music you have to go by technique. Peart is accurate and mechanical. I like it but I prefer a musician that can feel the music. That's why I put Gilmore in my top five

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
I think moving pictures was the last album I bought and that was in the 80's Everything before that was excellent. . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:44 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I loved rush in the 70's and 80's. Do they

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
I think 2112 is one of my all time favorite albums. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:44 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I loved rush in the 70's and 80's. Do they have any music since then worth listening to? I quit listening

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
i loath rush. fully. the music is VERY boring to me... however, i know they spurned and influenced a compendium of bands and albums. they are a musicians band. no question. much like dream theater. do they belong in the MUSIC HALL OF FAME? i dont know. but they probably deserve

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: i loath rush. fully. the music is VERY boring to me... however, i know they spurned and influenced a compendium of bands and albums. they are a musicians band. no question. much like dream theater. do they belong

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I can think of a couple of good reasons to dislike RushLee is a below average singer, and their music can get annoyingly techno-new-age-synthetic. I rather like Rush, but I think I would put them into a category of music

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
and the whole lot... nirvana, pumpkins, pearl jam, rhcp, radiohead should ALL be in there. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I can think of a couple of good reasons to dislike

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
more of a generational thing so it would seem. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: and the whole lot...  nirvana, pumpkins, pearl jam, rhcp, radiohead should ALL be in there. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
arent all of these we've all mentioned?! On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: more of a generational thing so it would seem. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: and the whole lot...  nirvana, pumpkins, pearl jam,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: more of a generational thing so it would seem. The scary part to me is that kids in High School today... Are they going to be saying these things about Taylor Swift? Justin Bieber? Or are these guys just the NKOTB

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
Nirvana and Pearl Jam without a doubt. I could probably be persuaded on the Chili Peppers as well...they've been an impactful band for a long time now. Radiohead is a possibility, they've been pretty innovative. Not sure about the Pumpkins...they burned pretty bright for a short time, but then

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
Maybe in a few yearsthere is the 25 year waiting period. I would hazard a bet Nirvana makes it in the 1st year they are 'eligible'. I will concede if it was renamed 'The Music Hall of Fame' I would rescind all my objections to all the artists I previously mentioned as not being

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Eidson
-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? more of a generational thing so it would seem. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: and the whole lot...  nirvana, pumpkins, pearl jam, rhcp, radiohead should ALL be in there. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Eidson
I have always said there is a Rush song for everyone. Rick -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, GMoney

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Rick Eidson cfh...@kchost.net wrote: Radiohead... what did they do that was influential to development of Music? And don't say Creep that song is lame, there is more music in Mustang Sally.. Releasing an album entirely in digital format on their website,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
btw, i just throw Coldplay into EVERYTHING to incite flamethrowing (like blaming george bush for everything)... no other reason :) i love them and couldnt care less who hates them... On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Rick

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
They could go into the Every Tear Drop is a Waterfall wing, along with Michael Bolton, Celine Dion, and any other artist who might seriously consider naming a song something so cheesy :) On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: btw, i just throw Coldplay into

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
Celine Dion will never make it..she is Canadian, no? On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:49 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: They could go into the Every Tear Drop is a Waterfall wing, along with Michael Bolton, Celine Dion, and any other artist who might seriously consider naming a song

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Eidson
Well if that's what would keep her out then Rush or Triumph will never get in... But Neil Young made it! Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
if its any bit of a redemption, my soon to be 7 year old despises Beiber. That said as a Canadian and someone from BC I wish to apologie to the US for Beiber. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
How about the POP Music hall of fame. that should cover about everything, including a lot of dreck. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe in a few yearsthere is the 25 year waiting period. I would hazard a bet Nirvana makes it in the 1st year they

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
thanks for the reminder - she's from Ottawa-Hull. Let me rephrase, as a Canadian I'd like to apologise for Justin Beiber and Celine Dion. But then again you americans gave the world Carrottop and Rebecca Black. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Celine Dion

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
While taylor swift's music can certainly be lumped in with these people, i'd hesitate to classify her as a talentless studio creation, like NKOTB. She writes her own songswhichcheesy though they may berequires some talent and dedication to song making. NKOTB, and i'm sure The Beebs,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan but the folks over at Saving Country Music (who are virulently anti-pop country) just had a really good article on why Taylor Swift is successful and why she doesn't follow the rules of modern pop country.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Medic
Why does being from BC matter? Beiber is from Stratford in Ontario. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: if its any bit of a redemption, my soon to be 7 year old despises Beiber. That said as a Canadian and someone from BC I wish to apologie to the

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Eidson
I like the line 11:12... They did the riffs and all the time signatures we all just look at the manual.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQjDHFQP0w Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
That and Archives... especially Caress of Steel or everything up to Moving Pictures . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think 2112 is one of my all time favorite albums. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:44 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: if its any bit of a redemption, my soon to be 7 year old despises Beiber. That said as a Canadian and someone from BC I wish to apologie to the US for Beiber. Yeah most kids I knew hated NKOTB when I was in school

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
9-14 yr old girls in the mid 80s is all i know On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: if its any bit of a redemption, my soon to be 7 year old despises Beiber. That said as a

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: 9-14 yr old girls in the mid 80s is all i know That's the only demographic you need. Bieber...Twilight...PotterMiley.if you are a hit in that market, even for a short time, you'll be rich for life.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
whoa...whoa.WHOA Potter does not belong in the same list with the othersthat's just wrong On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:04 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: 9-14 yr old girls in the mid 80s is all i know

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Judah McAuley
My sister had the Christmas album. Fortunately, she matured and we had a grand old time dousing it with lighter fluid and torching it a year or two later. Judah On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:04 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You forgot that Brazilian boy band Manuto, that's been going since 1960 or so. Each time a member hits puberty they fire him. On Thursday, December 15, 2011, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: 9-14 yr old girls in the mid

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
You mean Menudo? And I think they were/are form Puerto Rico On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You forgot that Brazilian boy band Manuto, that's been going since 1960 or so. Each time a member hits puberty they fire him. On Thursday, December 15,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was just pulling the name out of my (very) damaged memory. But yes. On Thursday, December 15, 2011, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: You mean Menudo? And I think they were/are form Puerto Rico On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You forgot

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
We mock it, but it is now and always has been a VERY successful way to make mucho, mucho dinero. I'd do it in a second if i had the talent...or better yet, the management skills to exploit such talent :) And lets not forget, Timberlake got his start in a pre-packaged boy bandso they aren't

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
I think Timberlake is talentless. But little girls still like him. . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: We mock it, but it is now and always has been a VERY successful way to make mucho, mucho dinero. I'd do it in a second if i had the talent...or better

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
-100 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think Timberlake is talentless. But little girls still like him. . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: We mock it, but it is now and always has been a VERY successful way to make

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think Timberlake is talentless. *stifled laugh* OK Sam..you go with that. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
Thanks for granting me permission to have an opinion :) . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think Timberlake is talentless. *stifled laugh* OK Sam..you go with that.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
albeit REALLLY fucking weird, but it's definitely YOUR opinion ;) On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for granting me permission to have an opinion :) . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: albeit REALLLY fucking weird, but it's definitely YOUR opinion ;) His indeed...since he's the only one in the world who holds it. If Timberlake isn't talented, no one is. That aint opinion, that's fact.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Scott Stroz
If Timberlake isn't talented, no one is. That aint opinion, that's fact. Agreed...hell the only time Saturday Night Live is funny anymore is when he is the guest host. He can sing, dance, act, he's funny and most important (to me) he does not come across as arrogant. -- Scott Stroz

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:20 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: REALLLY fucking weird, but it's definitely YOUR opinion ;) His indeed...since he's the only one in the world who holds it. If Timberlake isn't talented, no one is. That aint opinion, that's fact. Wow, we're back

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Medic
Opinions are like assholes... everybody's got one. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:20 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: REALLLY fucking weird, but it's definitely YOUR opinion ;) His indeed...since he's the

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? i loath rush. fully. the music is VERY boring to me... however, i know they spurned and influenced a compendium of bands and albums. they are a musicians band. no question. much like dream theater. do they belong in the MUSIC HALL OF FAME? i

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Eric Roberts
Who is Rebecca black? -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? thanks for the reminder - she's from Ottawa-Hull. Let me rephrase, as a Canadian

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Who is Rebecca black? Ditto. I mean I guess I could Google it, but I have never heard of Rebecca Black. Larry is she an ex wife or something? *runs* -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072

RE: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Eric Roberts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 Ewww Talk about talentless... -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination? On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Talk about talentless... Ah yes, I remember hearing about this. Some girl's dad paid for someone to make a music video of her singing this song, then everyone made fun of it, then she cried bullies,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
Should I put you down as a JT fanboy? Which of his posters is on your wall? . On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: Opinions are like assholes... everybody's got one. ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Should I put you down as a JT fanboy? Boy-band era JT was just a boy. SNL era JT is quite talented. Vocally as well as dancing. His acting is still perhaps up in the air except for SNL skits. Dare I say Mark Walberg also is

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-15 Thread Sam
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: Boy-band era JT was just a boy. SNL era JT is quite talented.  Vocally as well as dancing.  His acting is still perhaps up in the air except for SNL skits. SNL skits are skits, They don't make you musically

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Neither is Rush or Heart...but JayZ is...WTF? Whoa...hold up...RUSH is not in the Rock n Roll hall of fame? Perhaps the most talented trio ever assembled That's it. There is no rock n roll hall of

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Rush, Guess Who, what do they have against Canadian groups? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:55 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Neither is Rush or Heart...but JayZ is...WTF? Whoa...hold up...RUSH is not

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Sam
The Dopes aren't even signed: http://www.myspace.com/thedopes . On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Rules: Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Michael Jackson is in the Rock N' Roll Hal of Fame. Can't say I ever heard a Michael Jackson song that would be considered 'rock n' roll' :D On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: nitpick Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues guitarist, not a rock guitarist.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Jackson is in the Rock N' Roll Hal of Fame. Can't say I ever heard a Michael Jackson song that would be considered 'rock n' roll' :D Really The Eddie Van Halen riff at the beginning of Beat Itperhaps one

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
The riff was Van Halen, not MJ. :D Putting Michael Jackson in the RR Hall of Fame is like putting Johnny Unitas in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Football baseball are both sports, right? And, well, he did throw the ball, just like any pitcher in the baseball hall of fame. So it makes sense, right?

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
MJ was a Motown artist. All of the Motown music is considered a sub-class of rock. I agree. James Jamerson, who played bass on most of the Motown stuff is also in the Hall is a sideman. He had more influence on rock bass players than just about anyone ever. MJ was a much a rock artist as

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Motown is a record label. Not sure I agree that all artists of a particular record label would/should fall under a one genre of music. Once again, I do not think MJ ever produced a song that would be considered rock n' roll. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Ras Tafari
isnt it just possible that the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame was too limiting in just being ROCK n ROLL? and they started to open it up to MUSIC HALL OF FAME? i mean, jeeez, why does it matter ??? lol. they are all musicians, and its a hall of fame for music. looord. On Wed,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Following that logic, shouldn't they open up the Football Hall of Fame to soccer players? Or the Hockey Hall of Fame to figure skaters? Or Cricket players to Baseball Hall of Fame? If they are going to induct artists who would not be considered part of the 'rock n' roll' genre then they should

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
Yes, Motown was a record label, but the name is used in the industry to describe a very distinctive style of music performed by the Motown artists. You are in entitled to your opinion about Rock-n-Roll. It does not, however, match either general consensus or obviously, the Hall of Fame

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
I will agree that Motown as more than a label, I will even agree that when he was with the Jackson 5 he was 'Motown', but I disagree that any of his solo albums, regardless of what label they were released under, fits the 'Motown' sound. I would also disagree that every artist that recorded an

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
Then explain why the Doobie's aren't in. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: From what I can see, the standards seem to be, 'Have you been around a long time? Were you a commercial success? Are you not Canadian? Ok, you're in.'

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
I am not sure, but I suspect it has something to do with the episode of 'What's Happening' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDuW2rgbsD4 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Then explain why the Doobie's aren't in. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Scott Stroz

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Munn
It's all jazz anyway. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: MJ was a Motown artist. All of the Motown music is considered a sub-class of rock. I agree. James Jamerson, who played bass on most of the Motown stuff is also in the Hall is a sideman. He had

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
I am currently studying counterpoint theory using Gradus Ad Parnassum by Johann Joseph Fux. This is the same book that Bach, Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven used for study. From what I've learned I would conclude that all current music is based on this work, or at least the theories described in

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Munn
ba-da-bing! And on that note, one of my favorite Dreamers, John Lennon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: So perhaps it is all Fux anyway. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Sam
Chuck Berry or Little Richard are definitely rock. MJ was not. . On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: MJ was a much a rock artist as Chuck Berry or Little Richard (whose act he copped).  Ask any rock band if they weren't influenced by Chuck Berry.

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
LOL. That's got to be the worse version of Black Water I've ever heard. Speaking of the Doobie's, the boy toy bought one of Tom Johnston's guitars this week, an extra thick hollow body Paul Reid Smith. Damn, it sounds fine. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently studying counterpoint theory using Gradus Ad Parnassum by Johann Joseph Fux. This is the same book that Bach, Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven used for study. From what I've learned I would conclude that all

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
There is not a substantial difference in the musical structure of MJ song's when compared to Berry or Little Richard, other than use on the later stuff of the Jack Beat. Culture different yes, musical different, no. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck Berry

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Sam
I didn't study music theory but I have no problem distinguishing the different genres. I'm just referring to the popular songs since that's all I'm familiar with. . On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: There is not a substantial difference in the musical

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Eric Roberts
I think MJ is one of those folks that is not 100% rock, but he did have a huge influence as a child to young adult on rock. Every genre has a pop category, and depending on what time period you are referring can differentiate what someone saying pop is referring to. RB, Soul, Rock, Jazz, Blues,

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Michael Jackson NEVER produced a single 'rock' song, much less a 'rock' album. I don't care if Bruce Springsteen (I think we can all agree Bruce is a 'rock' guy) said he was influenced by Michael Jackson, that does not make Jackson a 'rock' guy. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Eric Roberts

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Maureen
There is very little differentiation between pop and rock in industry terms. For pete's sake, Robert Plant is nominated for Best Rock Vocal Grammy for a cut from Band of Joy, which was a nominee for best Americana album. Why? Because everyone knows Robert Plant is rock musician. Except when

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, labeling music by genre is worthless. There are only two kinds of music:  good and bad. I prefer the good  Miles Davis I can get onboard with that..however, in my opinion, Michael Jackson never produced any 'good'

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Discrimination?

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Childress
Indeed. He is the King of Pop, not the King of Rock. -Cameron On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Jackson NEVER produced a single 'rock' song, much less a 'rock' album. I don't care if Bruce Springsteen (I think we can all agree Bruce is a

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