Re: Town of Greece v. Galloway: Roanoke, Virginia, already seeing the effects of the Supreme Court prayer decision.

2014-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'll believe these Christianist fanatics statements on tolerance when they allow this prayer at the start of a public meeting: The Agnostic's Prayer (Roger Zelazny, Creatures of Light and Darkness, © 1969) Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if i

Re: Town of Greece v. Galloway: Roanoke, Virginia, already seeing the effects of the Supreme Court prayer decision.

2014-05-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
The pendulum is still swinging towards the intolerant right. Get ready for more crazy in more places. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > who decides. Given the example in Roanoke Virginia its going to be the > most obnoxious member of the town council I suspect. In th

Re: Town of Greece v. Galloway: Roanoke, Virginia, already seeing the effects of the Supreme Court prayer decision.

2014-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
who decides. Given the example in Roanoke Virginia its going to be the most obnoxious member of the town council I suspect. In this case the gy is stating that if you're not Christian you don't have any freedom of religion. As I said damned scary. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Zaphod Beeblebro

Re: Town of Greece v. Galloway: Roanoke, Virginia, already seeing the effects of the Supreme Court prayer decision.

2014-05-08 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I can only imagine the can of worms this has opened…I know many people who think that forms of christianity that aren’t the same as theirs are not really christian. Who will be deciding which denominations get their prayers read aloud and which will be stifled. Still shaking my head with th

Town of Greece v. Galloway: Roanoke, Virginia, already seeing the effects of the Supreme Court prayer decision.

2014-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/05/town_of_greece_v_galloway_roanoke_virginia_already_seeing_the_effects_of.html presented without comment. but damned scary. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antho

Re: Tech question: Which Hypervisor for VDI, Hyper-V or VMWare?

2013-12-08 Thread Justin Scott
> Anyone have insights or experiences to share? Having experience with both VMWare and Hyper-V, I would say for anything new, go with Hyper-V if it's an option. VMWare is great, but I liken them to Novell 25 years ago. Great products, but because it's proprietary and they nickel

Re: Tech question: Which Hypervisor for VDI, Hyper-V or VMWare?

2013-12-06 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
: > > > > > We're going to be deploying VDI in our office next year (June-July) and > > have spent quite some time researching hardware and to a lesser extent > > software required. One thing that has not been decided is which > hypervisor > > platform to use

Re: Tech question: Which Hypervisor for VDI, Hyper-V or VMWare?

2013-12-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
decided is which hypervisor > platform to use, either Hyper-V or VMWare. > > I prefer VMWare because it's got less bloat. My network admin prefers > Hyper-V because he thinks it'll be easier to administer based on his > experience. > > Anyone have insights or experiences

Tech question: Which Hypervisor for VDI, Hyper-V or VMWare?

2013-12-06 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
We're going to be deploying VDI in our office next year (June-July) and have spent quite some time researching hardware and to a lesser extent software required. One thing that has not been decided is which hypervisor platform to use, either Hyper-V or VMWare. I prefer VMWare because it&

Re: Xbox One v PS4: the complete comparison

2013-06-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"As I stated earlier, I don't want to have to go out and repurchase games that work perfectly fine right now." I am with you. I'll stick with my 360 until the PS3 drops in price again. I'll then pick one up. A few years down the road is when I'll be in the market for a next gen machine. It i

Re: Xbox One v PS4: the complete comparison

2013-06-23 Thread Bruce Sorge
od > job of staying out of the fanboy zone. He talks about system specs, price, > perception and so on. > > Xbox One v PS4: the complete comparison ( > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jun/18/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-at-a-glance > ) > > > Some in

Xbox One v PS4: the complete comparison

2013-06-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Here's a decent article comparing the new consoles. The author does a good job of staying out of the fanboy zone. He talks about system specs, price, perception and so on. Xbox One v PS4: the complete comparison ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jun/18/xbox-o

Oracle v. Google: Are APIs Covered By Copyright Law?

2012-05-02 Thread Brian Thornton
I've done a lot with copyright law. I helped change the way fair-use was interpreted to the federal and circuit law. I couldn't believe this judge would instruct the jury that "Java’s APIs are copyrightable". That is nuts! http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2012/0

Re: The Homeland Battlefield: ‘Hedges v. Obama’ Lawsuit Challenging NDAA Begins Today in

2012-03-30 Thread LRS Scout
It's distastful being on the same side of an issue as Michael Moore. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > The reason I'm helping Chris Hedges' lawsuit against the NDAAJ > > > I have discussed the terms of the Homeland Battlefield Bill – also known as > the National Defense A

Re: The Homeland Battlefield: ‘Hedges v. Obama’ Lawsuit Challenging NDAA Begins Today in N

2012-03-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
The reason I'm helping Chris Hedges' lawsuit against the NDAAJ I have discussed the terms of the Homeland Battlefield Bill – also known as the National Defense Authorization Act – with numerous other journalists, writers, and members of democracy-supporting organizations across the political spe

The Homeland Battlefield: ‘Hedges v. Obama’ Laws uit Challenging NDAA Begins Today in N

2012-03-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
The Homeland Battlefield: ‘Hedges v. Obama’ Lawsuit Challenging NDAA Begins Today in NYC The first rounds of statements from seven high-profile plaintiffs suing President Barack Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, House Speakers and DOD Representatives for

Re: Miracle Whip v Mayo

2011-06-24 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > http://theoatmeal.com/blog/miracle_whip > Oh that is just tasty. I know I should recycle that container now, but no way am I squeezing out all that... ~| Order the Adob

Miracle Whip v Mayo

2011-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/miracle_whip ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/mes

Re: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nice to have you back Jim. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:07 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium >

RE: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-16 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:07 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium > > > Any reason to go for Pro for a system that isn't going to be joining a > Windows do

Re: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-14 Thread Tony
good to know. IM like 1 week from pulling the trigger ... probably the transformer looking one from ibuypower.com Sent from my iPhone... don't hate On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > yeah, i ended up buying a system with pro > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Matthew Smith

Re: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-14 Thread Robert Munn
yeah, i ended up buying a system with pro On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Matthew Smith wrote: > > Just ran into not having xp mode on home.  Pro offers this. > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> >> Any reason to go for Pro for a system that isn't going to be joining a

Re: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-14 Thread Matthew Smith
Just ran into not having xp mode on home. Pro offers this. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Any reason to go for Pro for a system that isn't going to be joining a > Windows domain? I don't trust the built-in encryption, and I don't > need it to act as an RDS server, so w

Re: Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
i have home premium and it is fine On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Any reason to go for Pro for a system that isn't going to be joining a > Windows domain? I don't trust the built-in encryption, and I don't > need it to act as an RDS server, so what's left? > > ~~~

Win 7 Pro v. Home Premium

2010-04-13 Thread Robert Munn
Any reason to go for Pro for a system that isn't going to be joining a Windows domain? I don't trust the built-in encryption, and I don't need it to act as an RDS server, so what's left? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Sam
Scott Brown comes to mind On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Michael Dinowitz < > mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > >> >> There are people who register Republican so they can influence the >> Republican party votes but they vote Democrat (or

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread G Money
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > There are people who register Republican so they can influence the > Republican party votes but they vote Democrat (or other) when the > chips are down. > Yes, I know, I think they are the worst kind of p

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
still what were you referring to? it makes no sense in the context of what you were writing. Just trying to understand. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Sam wrote: > > You can skip over that one, carry n > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> there are times when no

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Sam
You can skip over that one, carry n On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > there are times when no matter how hard I try I cannot make any sense > out of what you write. for instance you stated: >> and everyone else want's them dead? > > WTF are you referring to? you are mak

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
there are times when no matter how hard I try I cannot make any sense out of what you write. for instance you stated: > and everyone else want's them dead? WTF are you referring to? you are making less sense than usual. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:1

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There are people who register Republican so they can influence the Republican party votes but they vote Democrat (or other) when the chips are down. > You can still be a "conservative"...just make sure you never register as > Republican. ~~

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Sam
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > We have yet to hear Obama calling for intolerance towards people of > different religions, and everyone else want's them dead? > or questioning whether non believers are really > American in the first place, as have quite a few of the c

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Sam
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Vivec wrote: > > How do you compare Barack Obama's statement: > > Barack Obama, in his inaugural address, said that "our patchwork > heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians > and Muslims, Jews and Hindus – and non-believers. We are s

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
We have yet to hear Obama calling for intolerance towards people of different religions, or questioning whether non believers are really American in the first place, as have quite a few of the current republican crop of candidates. Or for that matter say something like what Mike Huckabee, said "..

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Vivec
How do you compare Barack Obama's statement: Barack Obama, in his inaugural address, said that "our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus – and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end o

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Sam
Obama is as religious as anyone in that stupid story. It's all about how you paint the right, nothing to do with reality. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think there is a difference between being a 'Republican' and being a > 'conservative'. Just like there is a differ

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread G Money
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:21 AM, morgan l wrote: > > This is why I'll never be a "Conservative" no matter how much I agree with > 99% of the rest of their stance. > You can still be a "conservative"...just make sure you never register as Republican. A person with "conservative" views on gover

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Scott Stroz
s wrote: > >> >> Interesting commentary about the recent speeches made by the 2 current >> republican frontrunners. >> >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/23/republicans-religion-secular-america >> >> Republicans v secula

Re: FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread morgan l
frontrunners. > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/23/republicans-religion-secular-america > > Republicans v secular America > > With blatant disregard for the first amendment, Republicans' > intolerance of US secularism means things are turning ugly > >

FW: Republicans v secular America

2010-02-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Interesting commentary about the recent speeches made by the 2 current republican frontrunners. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/23/republicans-religion-secular-america Republicans v secular America With blatant disregard for the first amendment, Republicans

RE: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Scott Raley
I gave up on lost after season 4.. who gets off the island and then wants to come back.. -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: V ep4 >Hey it could be worse - remember the wa

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given how abysmal the original series was, I'm surprised the new version has turned out to be so bad. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Meh. I'll keep watching, but for me this reboot is a massive fail. It > could have been much better. > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:5

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Hey it could be worse - remember the waits for Sopranos? I think one >of the breaks was like 14 freaking months. How long has it been since the last season of Lost and we still have until Feb for that one. But yeah I think this is a big mistake, by the time it rolls around again, everyone wi

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Hey it could be worse - remember the waits for Sopranos? I think one > of the breaks was like 14 freaking months. > > Who knows what gives with these networks. Chuck comes back in January Eureka comes back in Summer 2010 Psych retur

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Raymond Camden
gt; From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:53 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: V ep4 > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > >> >> So what gives. We see 4 episodes and now we

RE: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Scott Raley
Worse than BG only getting like 8 episodes and waiting for the next season. -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: V ep4 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Scott Raley wrote

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > So what gives. We see 4 episodes and now we have to wait until March for it > to continue? > > > > And the ending shows 100's of ships coming through space? This like the > supply convoy or something? All ships are empty to suck up all the

Re: V ep4

2009-11-26 Thread Raymond Camden
Meh. I'll keep watching, but for me this reboot is a massive fail. It could have been much better. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > So what gives. We see 4 episodes and now we have to wait until March for it > to continue? > > > > And the ending shows 100's of ships comin

Re: V ep4

2009-11-25 Thread Dr. Who
crackalackin Better then Dr.Who skipping a season, just because tenant left. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.house

V ep4

2009-11-25 Thread Scott Raley
So what gives. We see 4 episodes and now we have to wait until March for it to continue? And the ending shows 100's of ships coming through space? This like the supply convoy or something? All ships are empty to suck up all the resources? ~

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Rick Root
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > So you guys got the DVR set? Lol. I'm excited about it! I've got the original miniseries on DVD, loved it. Rick ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something t

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:41 PM, G Money wrote: >> Though V was scary - nothing was scarier to me as a kid than the >> "Sleestacks" from the original Land of the Lost series. > > Really? Huh..even as a little kid, those things were too hokey to scare me Yeah - I hav

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
ecause it would be too scary for me...so naturally, I snuck to a room by > myself and watched it..and I remember it scaring the living shit out of > me. Weren't the aliens lizard-like? I seem to have a vision of that in my > head. > > Anyway, several sleepless nights ensued...

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread G Money
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Yeah - I seem to remember something about them eating rats? My > parents didn't let me watch it either... > > Though V was scary - nothing was scarier to me as a kid than the > "Sleestacks" from the

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
I never saw the tv shows (although I seem to recall a weird looking lizard guy), but I enjoyed the books. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Ar

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > Thank god someone responded. > > I'm getting tired as hell of the religion and health care threads. Yeah ditto - and my whole attempt at a healthcare troll a few weeks ago didn't dislodge those conversations one bit. ~

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Yeah - I seem to remember something about them eating rats? My parents didn't let me watch it either... Though V was scary - nothing was scarier to me as a kid than the "Sleestacks" from the original Land of the Lost series. -Cameron On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, G Money

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Ras Tafari
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:52 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: V > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> So you guys got the DVR set? > > Yup - and don't forget that the origina

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread G Money
caring the living shit out of me. Weren't the aliens lizard-like? I seem to have a vision of that in my head. Anyway, several sleepless nights ensued...and to this day, the memory of "V" still holds some chills for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > &

RE: V

2009-10-28 Thread LRS Scout
Thank god someone responded. I'm getting tired as hell of the religion and health care threads. I'll have to catch that stuff on syfy -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:52 AM To: cf-community Subject:

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > So you guys got the DVR set? > > > Yup, Hulu.com Availability Notes: The premiere episode will be posted Nov. 4, the day after broadcast. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: V

2009-10-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > So you guys got the DVR set? Yup - and don't forget that the original V series will be on as a SyFy Marathon Nov 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I set my Tivo to record those too... http://ksitenetwork.blogspot.com/2009/10/syfy-welcomes-vis

V

2009-10-27 Thread LRS Scout
So you guys got the DVR set? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messagei

Big Corn v Health Care

2009-08-31 Thread Gruss Gott
"... if health insurers can no longer pick and choose their clients, and throw sick people out, they will develop a much stronger interest in prevention, which is to say, in changing the way America feeds itself. When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits for every case

RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: LRSScout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:37 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage > > I whole heartedly support gay marriage, across the board, at federal > level. >

RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread LRSScout
wise, with that these days. > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:hofli...@depressedpress.com] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:54 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mary J

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>It is absolutely a religious issue. There is no secular evidence that >homosexuality is a negative: That doesn't mean that there aren't still *plenty* of non-religious people that don't support gay marriage. In fact, the last guy I dated seriously was an agnostic and totally against any addit

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
> How do you prove a negative? How do you prove that if you stop hating > gays that the world won't end? The "be quiet and we'll eventually get > used to you" method of achieving civil rights has never done anyone > any good. Oh come on, that was not what I said at all. But there's a big differen

RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:38 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage > > >And that's kind of the point: marriage in this country can be a

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > You can say that, and the gay community can say that, but clearly from the > ways the votes have done in these states, there's still a lot of paranoia, > and the gay community has not addressed it sufficiently enough to make people > co

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>It's *primarily* a religious issue, because most of "moral outrage" >aimed at the gay community comes from gross misinterpretation of bible. I'd have to disagree with it being a "gross misintepretation" of the Bible. I think the Bible simply isn't clear on this topic and people can choose to i

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>it's an obfuscation...to suggest that allowing equal treatment for a >lifestyle is the same as "mainstreaming" it. Perhapsbut that's what a great deal of the fear about it is. Heck, we haven't even gotten to the point where we allow someone to be openly gay in the military. And that as well

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Scott Stewart
It's *primarily* a religious issue, because most of "moral outrage" aimed at the gay community comes from gross misinterpretation of bible. I think we've probably gone over this issue hundreds of times and the answer is simple. Break the marriage down to a simple written contract for cohabitatio

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread G Money
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > Sorry but it's not that clearly a religious issue, although certainly most > of the strong support for a ban against gay marriage comes from the > religious right. But people often see it as a further erosion of the > traditional family, as

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-15 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>And that's kind of the point: marriage in this country can be a completely >secular, non-religious affair. So how can we possibly justify refusing it >to any group of citizens for what is clearly and completely a religious >reason? Sorry but it's not that clearly a religious issue, although cer

RE: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:41 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage > > >So, IMO, you can't take the word marriage and give it only to one

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-14 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>So, IMO, you can't take the word marriage and give it only to one sector of >the population. (although maybe it is the best idea yet) Well, the problem is that a large percentage of the population wants to do just that. That's why I say, okay, let them have the word, but give all the same right

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-14 Thread Erika L. Walker
One of the definitions of "marry" means, to unite or join. You can marry two pieces of electrical wire together. You can marry two pieces of wood together, etc. Nothing about sex there. :) The word Marriage is a noun. 1 a (1)*:* the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husb

Re: Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-14 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Great debate on Gay Marriage. Yeah, Jon Stewart definitely came off the better in that. He always impresses me with his ability to question guests on the show while still showing them respect. Maybe we should just agree to leave "marriage" as the term for a union between a man and woman and

Huckabee v Stewart: Gay Marriage

2008-12-11 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=213349&title=mike-huckabee-pt.-2 Great debate on Gay Marriage. Of course my opinion is that Huckabee sounds like a very nice, but horribly misguided buffoon, and that the whole debate misses the point that subjective opinions should not be all

Re: FW: » This Story:Read +| C omment s * • Swiss Back Up B a nks With Aid, Guarantees * € ¢ In Scramble for Cash, Paki sta n Turns to China's Deep Reser v e s * • Top Airline In India to Sh

2008-10-18 Thread Vivec
:-) 2008/10/18 Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The point is that for the last 10 years the so called socialist Canadian > economy has been significantly outperforming the US economic system first > under the liberals and more recently under the tories. There's something to > be said about

Re: FW: » This Story:Read +| C omment s * • Swiss Back Up Ba nks With Aid, Guarantees * • In Scramble for Cash, Paki stan Turns to China's Deep Reser v e s * • Top Airline In India to

2008-10-18 Thread Larry Lyons
>How DARE you !?? >Canada has the same SOCIALIST policies that Barack wants to implement >in the United States! >They are EVWIL and Unmer'can! First off sorry about the messed up title. Second Of couse they're Unamerican they're Canadian, what do you expect, North Dakota? The point is that for

Re: V

2008-06-20 Thread Yves Arsenault
That's awesome! I remember that show. ;-) Yves On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Free and legal: > > http://video.aol.com/video-category/v/103278 > > ~| Adobe® C

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2008-06-20 Thread Loathe
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Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-13 Thread Maureen
This is late but if she loves chocolate, she'll love these whenever they arrive. Absolutely the best chocolate I have ever tasted. http://xoxtruffles.com/ On 2/12/08, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > post em here... > i am stuck... waiting on a new king size Hevanly Bed.. > but it will be

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>gift certificate from a massage place? or is that too... generic? >does that scream out "i had no idea what to get you, and everyone >likes a massage, so i copped out"? Brings to mind a birthday party for my sis-in-law a couple years ago. She is so hard to buy for, doesn't like to read, not int

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
::eyeroll:: I think you guys deserve whatever happens to you... lol On Feb 12, 2008 4:21 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ::headsmack:: > > some things you just need to do for yourself :) > > On Feb 12, 2008 3:50 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oooh..how would that work... > > > >

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
::headsmack:: some things you just need to do for yourself :) On Feb 12, 2008 3:50 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oooh..how would that work... > > have a hot masseusse over to show them both the proper use of oils? > Or would she just be showing the wife? > > whatever did you have in

RE: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Jacob
And a movie to go along with it ;-) -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: last minute V deas.. maybe. Depends on the particular relationship. I'd say massage oils along with a demonstrati

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Vivec
oooh..how would that work... have a hot masseusse over to show them both the proper use of oils? Or would she just be showing the wife? whatever did you have in mind for this exotic valentines gift Dana?? On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Depends on the partic

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Ben Doom
She means you should clean the bathroom. What? Why is everyone looking at me like that? --Doom Dana wrote: > um no. > > The thing she DOES want but thinks you are too oblivious to realize it. > > Dana > > On Feb 12, 2008 3:21 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> like a kegorator? >>

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
this would also be good... the key is to make her feel special On Feb 12, 2008 3:27 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume budget is a necessity? You going to be home before her? Hallmark > stores have Godiva chocolates and you can get a small box for not too much. > Stop at

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
maybe. Depends on the particular relationship. I'd say massage oils along with a demonstration of their use would be better On Feb 12, 2008 3:23 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gift certificate from a massage place? or is that too... generic? > does that scream out "i had no

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
um no. The thing she DOES want but thinks you are too oblivious to realize it. Dana On Feb 12, 2008 3:21 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like a kegorator? > i KNOW she dosnt realize she wanted it... > > On Feb 12, 2008 5:12 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > btw... the best of

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Erika L. Walker
I assume budget is a necessity? You going to be home before her? Hallmark stores have Godiva chocolates and you can get a small box for not too much. Stop at grocery store, get simple fixin's for favorite simple meal by candlelight, music, wine, etc. Have box of chocolates and a single red rose on

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Charlie Griefer
gift certificate from a massage place? or is that too... generic? does that scream out "i had no idea what to get you, and everyone likes a massage, so i copped out"? On Feb 12, 2008 2:21 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like a kegorator? > i KNOW she dosnt realize she wanted it... > >

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Ihrig
like a kegorator? i KNOW she dosnt realize she wanted it... On Feb 12, 2008 5:12 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > btw... the best of those is the thing she did not realize you knew she > wanted > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
btw... the best of those is the thing she did not realize you knew she wanted On Feb 12, 2008 3:07 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > post em here... > i am stuck... waiting on a new king size Hevanly Bed.. > but it will be too late > > she dosnt want flowers. > she does want Gadiva c

Re: last minute V deas..

2008-02-12 Thread Dana
negligee, jewelry... anything you happen to know she wants. On Feb 12, 2008 3:07 PM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > post em here... > i am stuck... waiting on a new king size Hevanly Bed.. > but it will be too late > > she dosnt want flowers. > she does want Gadiva chocolates.. wt

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