Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Ben Alembick benalemb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for  years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), As others have pointed out, plenty of people still use it. I also spend ages trying to  make

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Mike Chabot
Plenty of people still use HomeSite. It is a great program. The intended successor to HomeSite is Adobe ColdFusion Builder, which isn't a finished product yet. If you have had frustration with cfbuilder, maybe stick with HomeSite until cfbuilder becomes a more mature product. Beta testing the

Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Dorioo
Can't speak to the cause from afar. But to prevent reports from running concurrently, maybe you can put a named CFLOCK around all of the report generation events. If they all shared the same name, only one would ever have the lock and, if a second started to run while the first was running, it

Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Ben Alembick
Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), i have often attempted to swap to eclipse or (more lately) cfbuilder but i find that i spend so much more time trying to get used to the apps that i end up reverting

Development Apps- Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Ben Alembick
Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), i have often attempted to swap to eclipse or (more lately) cfbuilder but i find that i spend so much more time trying to get used to the apps that i end up reverting

RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Bryan S
I have a lot of new information now but I'd really appreciate some help on this because I still have the problem. I've never had much luck getting response to my questions on this forum. If I am doing something wrong please let me know. I'm going to *try* to keep this as simple as

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Ben Alembick benalemb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), i have often attempted to swap to eclipse or (more lately) cfbuilder but i find that i spend

RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Justin Scott
Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), I am still using HomeSite+ here for development. It does a great job, it's fast, and it just works, but I'm in the same boat as you are. It's getting farther behind

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Jason Fisher
I still use HomeSite more than not, but I'm using CFBuilder more and more for side work (at home at night). Still not used to the lag ... HomeSite is just so dang fast, while CFB waits forever to popup code assistance within a tag and it often fails to close a tag, resulting in lots and lots

Re: Stack overflow in self nested custom tag

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
I'm using CF7.02 and I'm trying to create a custom tag that will be self nested, like:-     cf_ct1          cf_ct2               cf_ct2               /cf_ct2          /cf_ct2     /cf_ct1 And in cf_ct2, I'm trying to get the data of the parent tag and assigning to a variable in the

Re: iText and CF issues

2010-03-09 Thread Arden Harrell
Thanks for replying. We are currently running this against a CF7 environment. I have tried a variety of parameters. 1. flags, setflags, clrflags (using PdfAnnotation constants) 2. fflags, setfflags, clrfflags (using PdfFormField constants) No change occurs to the PDF document. I should

RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Bryan S
Thanks a lot for the reply. I simplified my explanation to get right to the point. There are times when I want multiple reports to run at once. Event1 actually checks if a large memory hogging report is running. If not it fires Event2 even if another report is running. Bryan -Original

Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Dorioo
You could dynamically name the lock to use the same name (only one report runs at once) or use a unique name (allow multiples to run). Still, mitigation, not a fix. I think the lack of responses is because this may be tightly coupled to your implementation and is not general enough for

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Wil Genovese
I still have CFStudio installed and I use it as a glorified text editor or scratch pad on occasion. Usually to help me look at code from 'View Source' and such. I've fully switched to Eclipse based for the past two years. Yes, there is a steep learning curve, but not as steep as it was a few

RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Andy Matthews
You're going to have the same trouble when moving to y from x in ANY field, be it software, or applications, or even using a different knife when cooking. You just have to believe that the new thing will eventually be better than the old thing. If you don't think that it will improve your

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Tony Bentley
I found it best to transition on a new project that isn't too deadline specific so you aren't pressured to take shortcuts. I am currently still using Dreamweaver with some projects because of the ease to setup a site with 3 server environments and FTP. Eclipse is a little too high end

RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Christian N. Abad
Ben: I'm in the same boat as you! (...Seriously...) I've been using HomeSite+ (HS+) for YEARS, since I started working with CF 4.52! I have tried repeatedly to make the transition to Aptana / CFEclipse and now CFBuilder countless times, only to come back running to HS+. It just works and it

Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Christian N. Abad
Folks: I had two other thoughts on this topic: 1) Will Adobe, or anyone else, be releasing the ColdFusion 9 Extensions for HomeSite+ the way they had for CF MX and CF 8? (I think not, since Adobe has officially ceased development of it per http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/.) 2) If not,

RE: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Robert Harrison
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Re: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Jordan Michaels
CFEclipse is already a well-maintained and open-source CFML IDE that, unlike homesite, is cross-platform. I personally can't think of much reason or need for another open-source IDE - particularly one that needs work in order to be a viable option. I wouldn't complain if it were open-sourced,

RE: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Justin Scott
1) Will Adobe, or anyone else, be releasing the ColdFusion 9 Extensions for HomeSite+ the way they had for CF MX and CF 8? (I think not, since Adobe has officially ceased development of it per http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/.) I highly doubt Adobe has any plans to do anything with

Re: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Judah McAuley
Homesite isn't an IDE really, it is a text editor with some code insight. If people are looking for an editor (as opposed to an IDE that does project/asset management, refactoring, etc) I'd suggest you look into extending one of the various editors out there that already has some CF support.

calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Matthew Smith
I have some code that I would like to run with each page request, but it might take a while and I'd like to not have to wait for it to finish running. So basically, I'd like to initiate a template in Application.cfm, without a cfinclude. Is this possible? This will be on crystaltech, a shared

Re: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Peter Boughton
There's little point in making it Open Source. It might be a nice gesture from Adobe, but it's hard enough finding CF developers willing to do Java; finding a Delphi developer willing to support HomeSite would be even worse! For the people that like Homesite, there's nothing wrong with

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Peter Boughton
Read up on threading, which CF implements with the cfthread tag. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Matthew Smith
cool, I'll check it out. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Peter Boughton bought...@gmail.com wrote: Read up on threading, which CF implements with the cfthread tag. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Wil Genovese
If you are using CF8 or CF9 - I'd looked into what can be done with cfthread. And I would not put that into the Application.cfm (should be using Application.cfc anyways - you can do more with it), that kind of code should be executed from your controller for every page request. Spawn the thread

RE: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Bobby
Check out cfthread. -Original Message- From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:22 PM To: cf-talk Subject: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running I have some code that I would like to run with each page request, but it

Which Version of ColdFusion 9?

2010-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner
I'm experimenting with using a Virtual Machine (VirtualBox) to do some preliminary testing of ColdFusion 9. At the moment, I have an OpenSolaris VM environment setup on a Windows XP host laptop. So I went to download a ColdFusion installer to see what I could do with this, and I notice that

RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread Eric Nicholas Sweeney
I find it interesting that no one seems to be suggesting DreamWeaver as a replacement for Homesite. I was a huge Homesite fan - but dropped it about 7 years ago...(Has it been that long?!) I mainly use DreamWeaver now - and find it great for code markup and CF Integration. It is very similar to

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner
On 3/9/2010 11:36 AM, Wil Genovese wrote: Another way is to use AJAX. Wil Yet another way, if you want to go old school - before the days of cfthread... you can also do a cfhttp... with a timeout value of 0. Another new school way that may be relevant, is ColdFusion gateways. Really

Re: Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

2010-03-09 Thread Greg Luce
I would contribute! -- Greg Luce Luce Consulting Services, Inc. www.luceconsulting.net (863) 273-0289 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Jordan Michaels jor...@viviotech.netwrote: CFEclipse is already a well-maintained and open-source CFML IDE that, unlike homesite, is cross-platform. I

RE: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Jon Sala
Yes, find it clean to set up a gateway instance and then call SendGatewayMessage() for background processing. Not sure if Matthew's Crystaltech will let him access that. -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:48 PM To: cf-talk

Development and Testing Environment Recommendations

2010-03-09 Thread Jessica Garruto
We are formalizing new development and testing environments for our ColdFusion web sites and I would like to know what recommendations other developers/administrators have regarding server configuration and/or best practices. We are currently running multiple ColdFusion 8 sites (~10) on

Re: Development and Testing Environment Recommendations

2010-03-09 Thread Tony Bentley
Jess, Have you considered VM? This could solve the problem without needing another server. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Bryan S
So today's work narrows things down even further. The Cold Fusion Scheduled Task calls Event1. Event1 constructs a URL and passes it to a .cfm which uses a cflocation to fire the URL. The fired URL calls Event2 that starts a report. I pass an identifier through from the the URL called by the

Re: Development and Testing Environment Recommendations

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
In an ideal world, do you think we should put both Test and Development environments on one box (using separate IPs such as site-dev.siteUrl and site-test.siteUrl), or create multiple sites using VMware, or utilize two entirely separate servers? And are there considerations for each of

overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just a fast question about components and memory so that I can be extra exact for a chapter I'm writing on components. When the cfinvoke tag is used with a component name, the component is instantiated and a method of the component is run. In most cases, there is no reference to the component

Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-09 Thread Dorioo
Cflocation within a scheduled task would be the first thing I'd toss while testing. Doesn't sit well with me. I'd replace it with a CFHTTP call (you're generating a url already) and if I really wanted to decouple the two I may put it in a CFTHREAD. Just some testing ideas. - Gabriel On Tue,

RE: Development and Testing Environment Recommendations

2010-03-09 Thread Bobby
At work, we handle all of our Dev and QA environments on virtual servers so we can set it up exactly like production without buying all of the same hardware twice. At home, I use VMWare Fusion on my Mac to mimic whatever environment I need to when developing/testing. Virtualization gives you

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
When the cfinvoke tag is used with a component name, the component is instantiated and a method of the component is run. In most cases, there is no reference to the component returned. In other words, it's 'gone'. Is any of the memory used by the template request freed up at the time? If

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Matthew Smith
you can also do a cfhttp... with a timeout value of 0. Much easier. Any drawbacks? I don't need any values back from the request, I just need it to run. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: On 3/9/2010 11:36 AM, Wil Genovese wrote: Another way is to use

RE: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread brad
I cannot give a definite answer, but I can hazard a guess! My understanding of the JVM is that memory is never reclaimed in-process. Instead it is re-claimed the next time GC is run. So in your example with 20 cfinvokes, I would expect a high likelihood that all 20 instances of that object

CFScript query service problem

2010-03-09 Thread Kris Sisk
I'm trying to use the query service and I'm running into the issue that no matter what I put into the object it throws an error when I try to execute it. The specific error I'm seeing is Attribute validation error for tag CFQUERY. It does not allow the attribute 1. The code I'm feeding into it

Auto-Login to Google Analytics

2010-03-09 Thread Donnie Carvajal
We want to add single login access to Google Analytics from our Content Management System for our clients. I know there is an API for grabbing the Analytics data, but we are not interested in reproducing the reports. We like the UI provided by Google. We just want to give our clients a link

Re: calling a template but not waiting for it to finish running

2010-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner
On 3/9/2010 1:20 PM, Matthew Smith wrote: you can also do acfhttp... with a timeout value of 0. Much easier. Any drawbacks? I don't need any values back from the request, I just need it to run. Other than it is much more limited in capabilities then the modern cfthread...

Re: Which Version of ColdFusion 9?

2010-03-09 Thread Gerald Guido
So, with the hope that I do not need to go back to square one with the VM installation and configuration, Ian, I don't know if this answers your question but... One of the cool things about VM's is that you can save copies of the VM image. Just get the vm where you want it and copy the files to

Re: Stack overflow in self nested custom tag

2010-03-09 Thread Chris Velevitch
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 02:31, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Instead of having the processing done in the child tags, you can simply pass the data from those tags back to the parent tag during its end execution mode, using the CFASSOCIATE tag. This will let you do things that are a bit

Re: Stack overflow in self nested custom tag

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
Doesn't that depend on what you're trying to achieved? I can image that's a good solution for simple nesting of tags, but not for highly complex nesting of an indeterminate number of different child tags, child of child tags and recursive nesting. No, actually, I find it easier especially in

Re: Which Version of ColdFusion 9?

2010-03-09 Thread James Holmes
The only supported Solaris config is on Sparc: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/systemreqs/ This means 64 bit Solaris. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 10 March 2010 03:42, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: I'm experimenting with

Re: Development and Testing Environment Recommendations

2010-03-09 Thread Kevin Pepperman
Another vote for VM from me. elasticserver.com is great-- I have an paid account there, I want to support them because they are awesome! Another very nice thing is you can test ANYTHING without worrying about a sever failing. Plus, it is very easy to load test an app-- you can limit the memory

query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Here's another useless question. When the following UDF is invoked, it will return a query. Inside the UDF, the query is being assigned to the local scope so theoretically it should 'die' when the UDF is finished running. But it's returning a complex datatype, which should be passed by reference.

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
Here's another useless question. When the following UDF is invoked, it will return a query. Inside the UDF, the query is being assigned to the local scope so theoretically it should 'die' when the UDF is finished running. But it's returning a complex datatype, which should be passed by

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Dave, So if your right then a thousand iteration loop with each iteration doing a cfinvoke will cause the template request to keep growing in memory usage. There is no resource re-usage in the request. This also means that the statement after a method is invoked using cfinvoke, the component

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Dave, The way you make it sound, the instance of the UDF that is run stays in memory as long as there is a reference to the query that it contains. If I expanded the example to say that the UDF was a method of some component and was being called with a cfinvoke, the same case would apply. The

RE: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Mark A. Kruger
You can circumvent this using duplicate( ) cfset test = duplicate(test())/ Which makes a deep copy of the object by value. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: query passed by value from a udf?

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Kym Kovan
On 10/03/2010 14:19, Michael Dinowitz wrote: Dave, So if your right then a thousand iteration loop with each iteration doing a cfinvoke will cause the template request to keep growing in memory usage. There is no resource re-usage in the request. there is a good reference to the effects of

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
The way you make it sound, the instance of the UDF that is run stays in memory as long as there is a reference to the query that it contains. No, the instance itself - the variable that corresponds to the function itself - need not stay in memory. It will go out of scope right after it runs,

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
It's not a question of circumvention, just of understanding how things operate under the covers. If a statement is made in the docs that any variables local to a UDF are destroyed when the UDF is exited, where does it leave things like the query in my example. Either it is not destroyed, and a

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
You can circumvent this using duplicate( ) cfset test = duplicate(test())/ Which makes a deep copy of the object by value. While you can do this, usually you shouldn't. Creating duplicate objects is expensive, which is why the default behavior of CF is to pass queries and structures by

RE: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Mark A. Kruger
Yes ... I jumped in late without paying attention Michael. I'm tracking now :) Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Tuesday, March

RE: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Mark A. Kruger
Very true Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: query passed by value from a udf? You

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
It's not a question of circumvention, just of understanding how things operate under the covers. If a statement is made in the docs that any variables local to a UDF are destroyed when the UDF is exited, where does it leave things like the query in my example. Either it is not destroyed, and

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
No, the instance itself - the variable that corresponds to the function itself - need not stay in memory. It will go out of scope right after it runs, and will be eligible for garbage collection. But the query that was created by that function will remain in memory until all references to

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
So if your right then a thousand iteration loop with each iteration doing a cfinvoke will cause the template request to keep growing in memory usage. There is no resource re-usage in the request. That would be my expectation. This also means that the statement after a method is invoked

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
But we're talking about a single request so if there is no garbage collection during a requests lifetime, being eligible or not makes no difference. Right, but you could be storing the reference you create for a lot longer than a single page request. Be that as it may, you're saying that

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
there is a good reference to the effects of this, apparent memory leaks here: http://www.schierberl.com/cfblog/index.cfm/2006/10/16/memoryLeak_variablesScope I wonder if his test has been repeated in CF9. I would expect that what he saw was fixed. If not, then people would be setting

Re: overwriting a component reference variable

2010-03-09 Thread Kevin Pepperman
This implies no memory re-usage within a request, which seems to be the consensus. Did you let it run until you reached the maximum heap space? 20,000 is pretty tame, unless each one somehow can actually claim a good chunk of random memory. A query really is not a good way to test this

Re: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?

2010-03-09 Thread denstar
Hey Christian! I should have said something the other day, but the select tag stuff works on HTML elements too, in the latest CFEclipse preview release. I broke the formatter putting it in, but I've got unit tests for the formatting, so me no worry long. Still need to add a context menu for tag

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Now that is a very profound way of putting it. Well, this deals with the issues I had with how cfinvoke and other tags were described as working. Now I just have to say it right. Fun. :) So the question now is if GC can be called programatically after all references to a large 'object' is

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Brad Wood
So the question now is if GC can be called programatically after all references to a large 'object' is removed during a single request. Yes. cfset obj = CreateObject(java, java.lang.System) cfset result = obj.gc() Careful though-- Garbage Collection can be an expensive operation. Also, GC

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Watts
So the question now is if GC can be called programatically after all references to a large 'object' is removed during a single request. While Brad points out that this is possible, I don't know if objects are actually marked for deletion until the request has finished. In addition, it's the

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Hm. I used this without any real results: cfset runtime = CreateObject(java,java.lang.Runtime).getRuntime() cfset runtime.gc() I'll have to try java.lang.System once my comic bot is done it's nights work. Don't want to interrupt a 'real' operation for an experiment that'll just

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Brad Wood
This is starting to sound like one of those Hibernate knows best sort of discussions. lol A sentiment I generally agree with, mind you. Second guessing Java's GC logic is probably for pretty darn special scenarios. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com To:

Re: query passed by value from a udf?

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
It's not something I would actually use but as long as we've meandered over to it, I might was well ask it. :) Philosophically, I'm against people being able to call GC from within a request. Programmatic GC might promote the bad habit of depending on it over cleaner and tighter applications. If

Re: Which Version of ColdFusion 9?

2010-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 3/9/10, Ian Skinner wrote: I notice that the only Solaris flavor of ColdFusion is apparently for 64-bit systems. Install JBoss or Glassfish on your Solaris and deploy an EAR file with ColdFusion on it. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/