RE: mpls fragmentation [7:74577]

2003-09-02 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:42 AM 9/2/2003 +1200, Thomas Salmen wrote: >hmm, cheers > >any idea if there is any documentation regarding this? seems to me that with >all these sites these days mucking around with df bits and filtering icmp >that it's a wonder that any link with an odd pmtu works at all. not to >mention

Re: mpls fragmentation [7:74577]

2003-09-01 Thread Peter van Oene
At 10:37 PM 8/31/2003 +, Thomas Salmen wrote: >does anyone know if using frame-mode mpls affects the mtu on an interface? i >can't help thinking that sticking in an extra 32-bit header would mean >reducing the amount of user data that could be carried by 32 bits - causing >fragmentation if the

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread Peter van Oene
>I'm curious if anyone has talked to their SP and has thought about >leveraging MPLS carrier's carrier approach? Not sure how many >SPs, if any, support this currently, but seems to have the >right scaling properties if you're an ISP. And with the ability >for eBGP to carry labels for BGP routes

Re: OT: Anyone using Qwest PRN ? [7:72704]

2003-07-21 Thread Peter van Oene
trying to sell >you >a while back? what advantage does PRN have vis a vis MPLS such that Quest >is >no longer trying to convince you to buy it? > >inquiring minds need to know :-> > > >""John Neiberger"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: OT: Anyone using Qwest PRN ? [7:72704]

2003-07-21 Thread Peter van Oene
>Oops. Accidentally hit post before adding any content. ;-) > >Yes, it stands for Private Routed Network. It's a very interesting solution. >Our hub sites would participate in OSPF with their network, while our spoke >sites would use static routing. The PRN would have static routes pointing to >ou

Re: OT: Anyone using Qwest PRN ? [7:72704]

2003-07-21 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:31 PM 7/21/2003 +, John Neiberger wrote: >Are any of you using Qwest PRN? If so, I have a few questions for you: > >1. How do you like it so far? >2. Did you migrate from something else? If so, how did the migration go? >3. Any 'gotchas' that you learned later that you wish you'd learned

Re: an ISIS question.... [7:72081]

2003-07-11 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:29 AM 7/11/2003 +, wj chou wrote: >"In this case, you L1 areas will not usually be the same and the L1 >adjacency between the two "core" routers will not form. If the area is the >same, the L2 adjacency is superfluous. Many large networks are single >area, or single level (ie L1 everyone

Re: an ISIS question.... [7:72081]

2003-07-10 Thread Peter van Oene
2 adjacencies with each other. It appears to me that L1 would >be just fine. I, too, would be happy to hear some comments on this. > >Thanks, > >Zsombor > >At 02:40 PM 7/10/2003 +, Peter van Oene wrote: >>At 03:40 AM 7/10/2003 +, wj chou wrote: >> >Hi.. >

Re: an ISIS question.... [7:72081]

2003-07-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:40 AM 7/10/2003 +, wj chou wrote: >Hi.. > >a basic ISIS question... > >I know that by default, an IS is L1-L2, so it can form a L1L2 adjacency with >its neighbors. But what's the benefit of it? and under what kind of >situation in real world people want to configure it this way? L1L2 rou

Re: CCIE Lab !!! [7:71919]

2003-07-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:51 AM 7/5/2003 +, H T wrote: >Hi, >Actually Cisco just says the following topics are removed, but there is not >details > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html > >ISO CLNS... does it include ISIS ??? ISIS routing IP is still a valid topic. >Token Ring an

Re: Your advise pls! [7:60327]

2003-06-30 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:15 AM 1/5/2003 +, RamG wrote: >Hello Group, > >I finished NP/DA in Oct 2000. Since then, I have been looking for job in >networking. I know my drawback for being unsuccessful. It is my past >experience {as Accountant} and real world experience with Cisco routers. In >order to get some

RE: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-16 Thread Peter van Oene
> > > > [JN] Yeah, but does the "college happy" HR dude (your idol) who > > says > > "bachelors required" on dinky IT jobs (e.g. desktop support > > tech) pay > > attention to that? As far as he's concerned all BSs are BSs, > > and they are > > all "superior" to non-graduates. Remember that we a

Re: RE: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-09 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:34 PM 6/8/2003 +, garrett allen wrote: >the intent of this list is to discuss preparation cisco exams, not >opportunities in the various job markets. if your comments don't >relate to the study blueprint in some meaninful way, please keep them >to yourself. nice thread :-) for those wh

Re: Am I over my head guys? [7:69746]

2003-05-30 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:52 AM 5/29/2003 +, B Rudy wrote: >Hey guys, I just got an offer to become a 2nd senior network engineer for >this company in Orange Country. Great News i know!! > >Dilemma: I am a CCNP but have no local Area Nework Experience. Going to be >workin with Catalyst 6500 switches. Also i ha

Re: Tag Switching Vs Multicast [7:69797]

2003-05-30 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:24 PM 5/29/2003 +, Kazan, Naim wrote: >Howard, > >I would appreciate your view and the group on which one you guys would >prefer, Tag switching or Multicasting. We having been running into problems >with doing multiple windows XP imaging that can only handle up to 8 >computers at a time.

Re: Urgent Help Needed [7:69669]

2003-05-29 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:02 PM 5/28/2003 +, Rohit Sundriyal wrote: >Hi All > >I am facing very Strange Problem .My lan is behind Pix and for the last few >weeks i am receiving some popup messages on my lan pc from internet even >thought i am not browsing any site.Can anybudy tell how to block this kinda >messages

Re: Layer 3 and 2 question. [7:69576]

2003-05-27 Thread Peter van Oene
ferent customers? I am trying, but failing to understand what it is you are trying to do :-) Pete >- Original Message ----- >From: "Peter van Oene" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:51 AM >Subject: Re: Layer 3 and 2 question. [7:69576] > > > >

Re: Layer 3 and 2 question. [7:69576]

2003-05-27 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:05 PM 5/27/2003 +, Nuurul Basar wrote: >I am planning to configured both my core and distributions as L3 device, and >let the access switch to distribution using L2. >I was advice that by doing this on my network two identical ip address on >same subnet/vlan but in a different access swit

Re: BGP AS removal [7:66928]

2003-04-06 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:53 AM 4/6/2003 +, Bullwinkle wrote: >In other words, for purposes of testing, there are ONLY two ways to remove >things from the AS_PATH. 1) the technique you describe, which is to create Both these techniques are invalid in my opinion. If you create a new route, you haven't changed th

Re: BGP Question...?? [7:66919]

2003-04-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:46 PM 4/5/2003 +, Salvatore De Luca wrote: >Hi All, > > I am trying to better understand a particular BGP scenario, thought >someone might shed some light. This is probably very simple, i am just >missing the punchline. If you have 2 routers, one let's say running in AS100 >the other

Re: BGP AS removal [7:66928]

2003-04-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:26 PM 4/5/2003 +, Salvatore De Luca wrote: >I have to agree that it is a bit silly, dangerous, and should not be done on >a production enviornment.. but so are a lot of scenarios on the CCIE Lab.. >Just to add to the sillyness: Because it is silly and dangerous, you also can't do it with

Re: BGP AS removal [7:66928]

2003-04-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:22 PM 4/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: >150.50.200.0(R1)(R2)--(R3). > >R1 belongs to AS1 >R2 belongs to AS2 >R3 belongs to AS3 > >I inject 150.50.200.0 using the network command on R1 and see 150.50.200.0 >in R3 with as_path of 2 1. > >The question is how can I remove the 1 from the As Path

Re: Books for Introduction to networking [7:66849]

2003-04-04 Thread Peter van Oene
This has always been one of my favorites. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130661023/qid=1049475026/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/002-6465627-7277631 (Computer Networks by Andrew Tannenbaum) Pete At 03:20 PM 4/4/2003 +, Hubert Pun wrote: >Hi, > >Is there any good book for non-technical manager

Re: CCIE Vs. Linux engineer (not Ph.d) [7:66669]

2003-04-02 Thread Peter van Oene
Just study both and go easy on the incitement of textual riots. At 10:15 AM 4/2/2003 +, you wrote: >Hopefully I'm not going to stir another whirpool here. > >Today I was surfing job sites and found out that where there are less than >dozen jobs available for CCIE in Silicon valley, there are m

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-02 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:27 AM 4/2/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >I wonder if Cisco's MPLS class is just dated. It takes a long time to >develop and roll out a new class, especially if there's also a Cisco Press >book, exam, instructor materials, course binder, instructor training, beta >testing, etc. Mor

Re: BGP Route Reflectors [7:66488]

2003-03-31 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:52 PM 3/31/2003 +, \"\"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"\" wrote: >All, > >Please can someone clear this up for me, if you have the time. > >IBGP peers do not have to be physically connected to one another, as long as >an IGP (most preferably) is running between them. In most cases the routers are not

Re: What tools can tell u r using lease line or ISDN? [7:66561]

2003-03-31 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:27 PM 3/31/2003 +, Link Teo wrote: >I am using leased line to connect my remote offices to HQ. All the leased >line are backup by ISDN. Is there any tools which can inform me via email or >other means about whether I am using leased line now or ISDN backup? In >other words, any tools whic

RE: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-26 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:55 PM 3/26/2003 +, Peter P wrote: >I can reach my end node by declaring the loopback address as the source. By >default the router is using the seril i/f address. Unless I use the loopback >as the source it dont work. So I need to understand how to fix this - I >imagine the intervening ho

Re: Basic QOS Frame MPLS question [7:66210]

2003-03-26 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:08 PM 3/26/2003 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I don4t think so. > >There are many QoS tool that you can use without MPLS. For what it's worth, MPLS is not a QOS tool. It can be used as a component in a QOS strategy, but by itself, provides no QOS. >For example, you can use "ip rtp prio

Re: PING PROBLEM [7:66132]

2003-03-26 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:58 AM 3/26/2003 +, Larry Letterman wrote: >The serial interface cant ping itself like the ethernet can..It will send the >packet to the remote end and then back..if the path between both serial >interfaces is not correct the local ping will >fail..turn off keepalives and see if the ping w

RE: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:35 PM 3/25/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Orlando Palomar Jr CCIE#11206 wrote: > > > > You have a routing problem. Check your routing tables > > thouroughly. I'm sure you're missing some networks. > > > > The reason you're able to ping one-way is because you're using > > different

RE: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:35 PM 3/25/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Orlando Palomar Jr CCIE#11206 wrote: > > > > You have a routing problem. Check your routing tables > > thouroughly. I'm sure you're missing some networks. > > > > The reason you're able to ping one-way is because you're using > > different

Re: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:55 PM 3/25/2003 +, Peter P wrote: >I can ping from router A through various hops to router F. >Therefore the packet'knows' how to reach F - and also how to find a path >back to A by reply. However from router F I cannot ping router A. >As the ping works in the first case - ie it knows the

Re: type 4 LSA updates OSPF question [7:66089]

2003-03-24 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:25 PM 3/24/2003 +, Xy Hien Le wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Can someone tell me that only ABR will ORIGINATE type 4 LSA in OSPF or both >ABR and ASBR do? Only ABRs originate type 4 summaries. Pete >Thanks >Xy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=66094&t=66089

Re: Using communites to change the local-pref - not working?? [7:66002]

2003-03-22 Thread Peter van Oene
> > > Question: Should AS7018 on receiving the communites from AS1239 and AS701 > > set the desired local pref?? > > Why not?? > > What am I missing? > > Please advise. > >My read on it ( after checking Halabi's and Stewart's books ) is that >LOCAL_PREF is typically set on the inbound side, not wit

Re: Using communites to change the local-pref - not working?? [7:65999]

2003-03-22 Thread Peter van Oene
Are you sure the communities are on the routes when they hit UU/Sprint? I expect you remembered to add send-community to the peer :) Pete At 04:26 PM 3/22/2003 +, Cisco Nuts wrote: >Hello, >I have 2 routers in AS300 >RTF is connected to RTA in AS 1239 & >RTG is connected to RTH in AS 701

RE: Getting out of hand?? [7:65676]

2003-03-18 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:31 PM 3/18/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Maccubbin, Duncan wrote: > > > > How is the industry supposed to keep up with this?? > >What's the issue? Not sure I'm seeing your point. What's wrong with Cisco >announcing that their product received some sort of certificaton? Exactly..

Re: IOS for MPLS [7:65586]

2003-03-17 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:25 PM 3/17/2003 +, Michael wrote: >Dear all > >Can anybody suggest a stable vesion that supports >MPLS? Try your SE team. It's all a balance of platforms/features/interfaces/VIPs/PA's etc :) >We are in a process of running MPLS though our network >on C7507 routers and we tried a few v

Re: Off Topic - CCIE Certification Junkies [7:65499]

2003-03-15 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:30 PM 3/15/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >With the announcement of the CCIE Voice certification ( a Good Thing, IMHO ) >I wonder a couple of things: > >1) who will be the first quadruple CCIE? A certification junkie ;-) >2) Does Cisco still recognize the Design, WAN, and IBM

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:57 PM 3/14/2003 +, Scott Roberts wrote: > > In the end, the device either routes or bridges the frames it > > receives, but takes no action that can be distinctly described as layer > > three switching. > > > > Pete > > > >to my basic understanding ALL routing has a switching component to

RE: ASBR router [7:65424]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:00 PM 3/14/2003 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It is generally a bad idea to run any IGP with your ISP. If your intent is >to advertise the external interface that you connect to your ISP to your >OSPF network, then run that interface under OSPF as passive. I don't think any sane ISP woul

Re: Spanning tree question on .1q trunks [7:65386]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:08 AM 3/14/2003 +, Amar KHELIFI wrote: >ur right about the frames ability to use gig0/2 only if the gig0/1 goes >down, but according to the standard, the link from which bpdu's arrive with >a higher cost will be put on blocking, but visibely that is not the case. >some one will surelly re

Re: Any Cisco Teaching Certificate [7:65322]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:45 PM 3/13/2003 +, Shawn Xu wrote: >I am holding CCNP certificate. Recently I am interested in teaching Cisco >router and switch stuff. Do I need any Cisco teaching certificate? That depends on what you want to teach. If you want to teach licensed Cisco material, then I'd consult with

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:16 PM 3/13/2003 -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >At 2:43 PM + 3/13/03, Peter van Oene wrote: >>At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >>>Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >>>is forwarding rate and the

Re: ISP OSPF Design [7:65316]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 3/13/2003 +, Chris Headings wrote: >Good morning all, > >Does anyone out there know of either a good white paper or book that shows >some ISP OSPF designed networks? I am trying to find something that is more >geared towards service providers rather than corporate network LAN desig

Re: BGP dampening [7:65086]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:39 PM 3/11/2003 +, Oliver Hensel wrote: >Hi! > >Can someone point me to a document which explains >what happens with a prefix that is dampened if >it's distributed via two providers. Hi Oliver, Here is a link to a doc from Randy Bush that covers damping in some detail. http://psg.com/~

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane, >usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3 switch running at "wire-speed" >would be much more

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:43 AM 3/13/2003 +, aletoledo wrote: >a "layer three switch" is a router, just as a "switch" is really a bridge. a >layer 3 switch 'routes' in hardware, while a router routes in software. For what its worth, Juniper would likely take exception to your calling their products layer three s

Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:36 PM 3/12/2003 +, Amar KHELIFI wrote: >sorry i don't agree. >check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i was correct. >+ for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an explanation is not >necessary... While I agree that Kb tends to refer to 1024 and kb to

OT: OSPF vs ISIS in large networks [7:65049]

2003-03-11 Thread Peter van Oene
Hi all, Here is a quick post from Dave Katz on ISIS vs OSPF in large networks dealing with the issue of which protocol inherently scales better. This is from a thread in the IETF OSPF WG mailing list for those looking for the full thread. Dave has participated significantly in the development

Re: ??? MPLS ??? [7:64898]

2003-03-11 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:16 PM 3/10/2003 +, Steven Aiello wrote: >Sorry for such a newbe question. But what is MPLS? And what is it? >Any one have a link they can point me too? Just trying to learn more. I would recommend you start at www.mplsrc.com and possibly surf to the standards page. Within that page,

Re: Become instructor [7:64820]

2003-03-08 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:11 AM 3/8/2003 +, omar wrote: >Hello , >I am working as a freelance and i would like to be an Instructor (Cisco) . >Did anybody know the cursus? I believe you still need to work for an authorized Cisco training partner assuming you are looking for the CCSI designation. >best regards >o

OT: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:30 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""MADMAN"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. > > >the REAL question is "which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching?" ;-> I'm working on a draft for ARP switching. Still str

Re: Layer 3 MPLS VPN Questions [7:64770]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:05 PM 3/7/2003 +, John Neiberger wrote: >I'm at the early stages of considering migrating away from a >point-to-point frame relay network to a layer 3 MPLS-based private >network and I have a couple of questions based on some preliminary >verbal information. > >I was told that no router r

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vecto

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? > > > > Cisco ca

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?

Re: Question on BGP aggregation [7:64581]

2003-03-06 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:31 AM 3/6/2003 +, Mike Flanagan wrote: >I have a question on different methods of BGP aggregation. Lets say >for instance that I had 4 /24 that I wanted to aggregate to a /22. >I am getting these /24's through EBGP and want to summarize them to >my IBGP peer withought using any aggregate

Re: ATM RFC [7:64199]

2003-03-02 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:19 PM 3/2/2003 +, you wrote: >Hi Group, Would u kindly guide me which RFC to read to understand >properly the behaviour of different ATM types of service ( vbr-nrt, cbr, >abr, ... ) Best Regards The ATM forum is your best bet here. Here is a relevant link. http://www.atmforum.com/stand

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Peter van Oene
A >And that's exactly what would happen if you did the inter-VLAN routing on a >router too, using subinterfaces for each VLAN/ IP subnet. :-) > >And, if it were a high-end router, it could do this at wire speed and would >have a RIB and FIB, just like someone else described for the 6500. The 7500 >

Re: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
Just my .02c as I sit here snowed-in in Arkansas of all places :-) Who would think I'd fly from Toronto to Littlerock and end up stuck in more snow than I left! Pete >Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI >Community College of Southern Nevada >Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy >"Cuncta

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:03 PM 2/25/2003 +, Ellis, Andrew wrote: >According to Cisco: > >Layer 3 switching refers to a class of high-performance switch routers >optimized for the campus LAN or intranet, providing wirespeed Ethernet >routing and switching services. > >Compared to other routers, Layer 3 switch rout

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:46 PM 2/25/2003 +, Robert Edmonds wrote: >Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in one >platform. The main advantage here is speed. The way it works is, in a >switch you have some kind of layer 3 routing engine (aka route processor, or >RP). For example, the MSFC

RE: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
erformance core that can provide access aggregation, packet processing and performance all at the same time, and your port costs are comparable per mbps, I'm not sure why you'd buy a distribution layer other than to help a rep hit his number for the quarter. >-----Original Mess

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 2/25/2003 +, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: >I am under the impression that switching is a layer 2 function and that >routing is a layer 3 function. I have seen several discussions talking >about layer 3 switching. Could someone explain this to me? Bridging is a layer two function,

Re: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:05 AM 2/25/2003 +, Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: >In a Core-Distribution-Access Layer design, would you keep the Core L2 or >with high end L2/L3 switches such as the Cat6500 do you think it would be >better to do L3 in the core ? I personally haven't found the need to have a Distribution

Re: Layer3 Routers VS Switches [7:63072]

2003-02-15 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:22 PM 2/15/2003 +, Juntao wrote: >indeed with L3 switching, we can more closely arrive at wire speed, but in >the course of my practice, i seen L3 switches mainly interconnecting Lan's, >yes a flexwan modul exists to interconnect wan's on the same box but usually >we like to separate the

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Peter van Oene
> >There's more about the Myers Briggs personality "sorter" here: > > > >http://keirsey.com/ > > > >Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough >bandwidth > >on this already? :-) > > > >Priscilla > > > >First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class. >This

Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:37 PM 2/12/2003 +, Brett Johnson wrote: >What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router cannot? >Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate your >WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices? What about the performance of the >FLEXWAN modules?

Re: BGP config question. [7:62860]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
ump out when you least expect it. None of the sample >configurations I have seen seem to mention this sort of config and I was >wondering if there was some reason why it shouldnt be done, or if it was >just one of those obscure variations of common configurations that did not >wa

Re: BGP config question. [7:62860]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:36 PM 2/12/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote: >Folks > >A quick question on external BGP connection configuration. > >Given an organisation (ORG) with 2 EBGP routers (up1, up2) and two upstream >providers (pr1, and pr2) where provider pr1 is currently linked to the >router up1 via a serial link

Re: BGP exam study recommendations [7:62784]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:40 PM 2/10/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote: >Folks > >I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for BGP study. I am >booked in for the BGP beta exam on Friday and still dont feel >comfortable with my level of BGP knowledge. I have read the following >over the last few months > >

RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
ding list for duplicates and error if there is one. Such a mechanism wouldn't be relevant in SONET and for the APS reasoning, it may be expected that some interfaces share the same address. >Cisco has always given you enough rope to hang yourself. Decent error >messages hav

RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:18 PM 2/10/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to be unique. The >only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or tunneling or >something and the duplicates were hidden from each other. > >You don't get an error wh

OT: Reminder about Out of Office Messages [7:62645]

2003-02-07 Thread Peter van Oene
When you leave work for a while, can you please try and make sure that your out of office assistant doesn't respond to mailing lists :) This generates a lot of superfluous mail. Thanks and sorry for the OT post. Pete Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62645&t=

Re: Distribute-list out in ISIS - NOT working!!....Why?? [7:62643]

2003-02-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:46 PM 2/7/2003 +, Cisco Nuts wrote: >Hello,I am trying to use a distribute-list out serial 1 in >isis...basically blocking an Ospf route from being leaked into the Isis >domain. It lets me type in the commands but when I do a show run, the >commands are not there!! Why??On the neighborin

Re: 7500 Router CPU rocketing to 90% [7:62530]

2003-02-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:18 PM 2/5/2003 +, Mohsin Hussain wrote: >We have 2 7500 routers with CIPs installed. Recently the router started to >have its CPU shooting upto 90%. When show process cpu is run. It does not >show what process is causing this because none of the processes are or add >upto 80 or 90%. Only

Re: question(routing) [7:62490]

2003-02-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:02 AM 2/5/2003 +, kaushalender wrote: >Hello group, > >Kindly resolve my confussion.I have cisco 2610 router.We r running >static routing with our service provider .Now what is happening that >suddely my http request stoped going out means there was no browsing on > lan and customer I w

Re: OSPF to Internet Q [7:61823]

2003-01-25 Thread Peter van Oene
Why not just push default into your OSPF network from a router(s) with a direct link to your firewall. Then your firewall simply points default to the BGP speaking router (or uses vrrp or some igp for resilient routing in the case of multiple routers) Running BGP through your firewall, or redi

Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-25 Thread Peter van Oene
>The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router that connects >to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border Router to the >Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric cost from the >ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA. > >In my opi

Re: OSPF state [7:60572]

2003-01-09 Thread Peter van Oene
> > Routers on a multi-access segment where a DR and BDR exist may be > > neighbors, but not form an adjacency. All the non DR/BDR routers will not > > become adjacent with one another, however they will still be neighbors. > > > > I think you knew this already though :) > > >OK. kinda like in my

Re: CCIE written R&S [7:60606]

2003-01-09 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:57 PM 1/8/2003 +, you wrote: >Hi to all, > >I wanted to know if there are any type in questions(type the command in) on >the CCIE written, for R&S. Answering that would violate the NDA in my opinion. If there are, you'll certainly be prepared on your second attempt should they cause yo

Re: OSPF state [7:60572]

2003-01-08 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:24 PM 1/8/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""Jenny McLeod"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > As well as "show ip ospf neighbour" suggested below, "show ip ospf int" is > > worth looking at. > > > > TLaWR, I think you've had a brain fade. Router

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-07 Thread Peter van Oene
A> > > BTW, I do consider this a fundamentally silly discussion, but I think > > > > it's somewhat relevant for newbies to know that neither the cert nor > > > > the degree is the ultimate answer. > >If you have a BS degree, CCIE will add more benefits than MS for you. Sure, if you want to plug rou

Re: 6500 IOS / CatOS [7:60499]

2003-01-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:21 PM 1/7/2003 +, Jay Greenberg wrote: >What would be better suited to a large ISP's Gigabit Backbone? >6500 SUP2/MSFC2/PFC2 with CatOS or IOS? Is it just about personal >preference or are there stability / usability issues? I'm not aware of any large ISPs who use 6500's as core routers

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-01 Thread Peter van Oene
>I would just like to reiterate that the graduate degree (master's or PhD) >provides you a whole lot more flexibility than the CCIE ever can. With a >graduate degree, you can branch out far and beyond network engineering. That this thread subsists continues to amaze me. The CCIE, challenging th

RE: virtual link and nssa [7:59174]

2002-12-13 Thread Peter van Oene
al Message----- > > From: Peter van Oene [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 13 December 2002 14:08 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: virtual link and nssa [7:59174] > > > > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 05:59, Sara Li wrote: > > >

Re: virtual link and nssa [7:59174]

2002-12-13 Thread Peter van Oene
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 05:59, Sara Li wrote: > Dear all, I am doing the cyscoexpert sample lab. > R1--area12--R2---Area51---R5---Area0 area 12 cant receive lsa type 5 > routes, so it need to be either a nssa or stub, however, there is virtual > link between r2 and r5, can r2 be configured with stub

Re: Hello (long response) [7:58824]

2002-12-10 Thread Peter van Oene
>I brought these issues to my boss attention last wednesday and on thursay he > >ordered me to 'clean' house. The first thing I did was to send "pink" slips >to all > >4 CCIEs in the group and told them that they are fired because they don't >know > >anything other than R&S. They were making $130

Re: Loopback and OSPF [7:58890]

2002-12-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:00 PM 12/10/2002 +, Christopher Dumais wrote: >Can you use Loopback interfaces to pass OSPF traffic? Here is my example: The below routers will never form an OSPF adjacency. loopback addresses are virtual as you likley know, and inherently stub networks (ie they cannot be used for tra

Re: Can I configure BGP neighbor using HSRP VIP ip address of [7:58938]

2002-12-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:15 PM 12/10/2002 +, Kim Seng wrote: >r1 > | > | > - > | | > | | > r2 r3 > >In the above configuration, r2 and r3 are configured >with HSRP. >I need to configure iBGP between r1, r2 and

Re: OT low cost DS3 router [7:58916]

2002-12-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:47 PM 12/10/2002 +, jeff sicuranza wrote: >Fellas, this request just came in from a buddy of mine, if figured while I >search I was wondering if any of you have seen or used one before. > >Take off your Cisco hat for second and think about this: > >What device would you use to terminate a

RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]

2002-12-03 Thread Peter van Oene
I've noticed however that the lab itself isn't booked heavily (I could be wrong) If the pool isn't full, turn on the hose and fill it up. Training down your qualification requirements accomplishes that as far as I see it. On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 16:19, Bernard wrote: > Priscilla, > > "more doab

Re: OSPF E1 or E2 [7:58454]

2002-12-03 Thread Peter van Oene
Some thoughts below On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 13:26, p b wrote: > Comments inline: > > Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > > > > At 5:00 PM + 12/3/02, p b wrote: > > >One of the cisco press books indicates one should use > > >type 1 externals when the route is being advertised by > > >>1 ASBR and type

Re: Ccie is a rip off! [7:58458]

2002-12-03 Thread Peter van Oene
Sorry, are you flaming the Cisco test, or some book? On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 12:11, W'WW(W WW wrote: > Someone should say this already : > There is no experties-checking in any ccie written exam! > The ccie is a rip-off! > 50% memory questions (like "what vip version is eprom-value:01e00" and

Re: Specific BGP Question [7:58428]

2002-12-03 Thread Peter van Oene
Hi Jim, Some thoughts inline. On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 02:16, Jim Devane wrote: > Hello all, > > Long time lurker, first time poster. > > I have a router that is multi-homed between 16631 and 701. > I have a new client who is buying transit from us. > They are multi-homed to us and 1239. > A bu

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-02 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 12:18, p b wrote: > Peter van Oene wrote: > > > > Non intra-area ASBRs are found via type 4 LSAs (ASBR Summary) > > which > > follow the same rules as type 3 summaries and thus prevent non > > zero > > areas from providing transit towar

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-30 Thread Peter van Oene
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:52, p b wrote: > Thanks for the comments. Some thoughts below. > > Peter van Oene wrote: > > > > > Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of > > > the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR > >

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-27 Thread Peter van Oene
rly in areas with multi-abrs. When networks transition, you'd likely run into counting to infinity issues which OSPF doesn't really have a mechanism to deal with (ie hop count limits etc). > > So, I (still) don't see an issue if the ABR behaved as described > above. Ag

Re: Spanning tree loop [7:58099]

2002-11-26 Thread Peter van Oene
eely, yet STP likely wouldn't catch loops were it encoded with VLAN IDs. > > Peter van Oene wrote: > > >At 10:41 PM 11/26/2002 +, Larry Letterman wrote: > > > >>switch A and B wont talk to each other or cause a loop > >>because you have switch

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