Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-09 Thread Evelyn Yip
, I will take my CCIE. > >Regards, Eve > ----- Original Message - > From: Jeroen Timmer > To: 'jap_e' > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:34 PM > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > Why even bot

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> > We still have the problem when someone in contracts abbreviates the >> Statement of Work. > >Now, Howard from the picture I saw of you in some trade magazine. I never >guess you ever got near a farm. I imagined you as a good Jewish boy from >the Bronx or one of the other four borough's of

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread David L. Blair
> We still have the problem when someone in contracts abbreviates the > Statement of Work. Now, Howard from the picture I saw of you in some trade magazine. I never guess you ever got near a farm. I imagined you as a good Jewish boy from the Bronx or one of the other four borough's of New York

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread David L. Blair
d. We hired a female engineer and she fit like a glove. Every > > >single guy from the help desk to the CEO has the utmost respect for her > > >and is never shy to go to her and ask a Q if they think she may know. > > > > > >Take your test, know your stuff, show

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
lace? > >Guess I took my CCNP simply out of pride, just to show that "whatever you >guys >can do, I can do too." > >And perhaps, out of pride too, I will take my CCIE. > >Regards, Eve > ----- Original Message - > From: Jeroen Timmer > To: 

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Baker, Jason
would be dragged over the coals so to speak. Jason > -Original Message- > From: Buri, Heather L. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 6:29 am > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > &

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
MAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > When I started in the industry in 1980, I would sa

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Let me throw out some experience from the product development and related side of things. My immediate boss is female. I split responsibilities for guiding Nortel's interaction with the IETF routing area and the operational forums such as NANOG with a woman. In one cooperative research progra

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Tom Lisa
d. We hired a female engineer and she fit like a glove. Every > >single guy from the help desk to the CEO has the utmost respect for her > >and is never shy to go to her and ask a Q if they think she may know. > > > >Take your test, know your stuff, show your worth. >

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Buri, Heather L.
D] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > When I started in the industry in 1980, I would say that about 5% of the > men I encountered were MCPs. I expected that to change, but it didn't. In > 2001, I would say that still about 5% of the men I w

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Ooops. No offence meant to the Microsoft Certified Professionals! ;-) I >guess I'm showing my age. In my day, MCP meant male chauvinist pig. It's >such a rude phrase that I abbreviate it. But it does apply, so I still use >it (just abbreviated.) > >Priscilla We still have the problem when someon

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
CEO has the utmost respect for her > >and is never shy to go to her and ask a Q if they think she may know. > > > >Take your test, know your stuff, show your worth. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: jap_e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
worth. > >-Original Message- >From: jap_e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:54 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > >Good question. I'm still trying to find out why. &g

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Daniel Cotts
1 9:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > Good question. I'm still trying to find out why. > > Perhaps I'm just sick & tired of my colleagues looking down upon my > capabilities (being a f

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Jeroen Timmer
Message- From: jap_e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 5 september 2001 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] Good question. I'm still trying to find out why. Perhaps I'm just sick & tired of my colleagues looking do

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread Steve Smith
now. Take your test, know your stuff, show your worth. -Original Message- From: jap_e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] Good question. I'm still trying to f

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread jap_e
er you guys can do, I can do too." And perhaps, out of pride too, I will take my CCIE. Regards, Eve - Original Message - From: Jeroen Timmer To: 'jap_e' Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] Why

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-05 Thread David L. Blair
sband over to be trained by you? > ;-) > > Heather > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Medeiros [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:59 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-04 Thread Buri, Heather L.
: > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 2:31 PM > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > > Sorry Christopher, but the CFTA certification isn't worth anything > anymore. > > It's been eclipsed by MPDL. If you've got that, you&

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-03 Thread Tom Lisa
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Supino Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take serious issue with

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-03 Thread Tom Lisa
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Supino Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take serious issue with

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-03 Thread jap_e
ssage - From: Christopher Supino To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:02 AM Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] Consider them rolled. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of B.J. Wilson

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NOT true... I went from ground level to CCNP in five months w/o equipment. ALL it takes is a good memory..common sense..do enough reading to UNDERSTAND some theory..having equipment would have made it sooo much easier BUT anything is possible if you have the motivation!! Rick Message Pos

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CHRIS, Couldn't agree with you more...again CCIE written is all about memory...anyone can do that ... now the LAB that makes you a CCIE.. Rick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18301&t=18124 -- FAQ, list archive

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Christopher Supino
Consider them rolled. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of B.J. Wilson Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] I heard that cert was still in Draft stage

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Tony Medeiros
MPDL you ask? Why, "Male Puts Down Lid" of course! > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Christopher Supino > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: C

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
--Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Christopher Supino > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > Nice Chuck. Don't for

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread B.J. Wilson
I heard that cert was still in Draft stage. (insert collective eye-roll here.) - Original Message - From: "Christopher Supino" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > Nice Chuck. Don't

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Christopher Supino
t: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Supino Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
D]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Christopher

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Dan Faulk
any indication, but looks weird on a requirements list. Dan Faulk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] :o

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Michael L. Williams
-- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Christopher Supino > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > When did CCIE Written become a certification? I

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Michael L. Williams
This is not true, as I finished by CCNP without benefit of a router. I did purchase a 2901 to study with, but ended up using it more for LAN parties than studying. If you study the material and understand the concepts, most of othe CCNP exams have a "choose the correct command from the list", so

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Circusnuts
CDP. > My two cents. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > ahmed adil > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > > > Just cant

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Supino Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Christopher Supino
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ahmed adil Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] Just cant do it without a router Ahmed CCIE Written CCNP CCDP MCSE ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message [EM

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread Circusnuts
scenarios that are over your head). It can be done though All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "ahmed adil" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124] > Just cant do it without a router > &g

Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-09-02 Thread ahmed adil
Just cant do it without a router Ahmed CCIE Written CCNP CCDP MCSE ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Having recently just passed CCNP this year I will say you must have a > Router. > The reason is that the prescribed rituals must be performed in front

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-08-31 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
that exam. Use the keywords "Cisco are you listening" to find my previous post. -- Leigh Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Dan Faulk > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &

RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]

2001-08-31 Thread Dan Faulk
Having recently just passed CCNP this year I will say you must have a Router. The reason is that the prescribed rituals must be performed in front of the Router. Without a Router the powerful spirit of routing, BGPOSPF, wont bless your efforts and even if you do pass all knowledge will be removed