OT: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-28 Thread Michael L. Williams
Well, AMD actually co-developed CPUs with Intel, so they would have no need to copy. And (sorry Priscilla, this isn't meant for you), but when will people get it through their head that Microsoft DID NOT COPY Apple. That implies Apple was the first computer to use a mouse and GUI, which is

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-28 Thread Michael L. Williams
Paul Borghese wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Futurewei (of whom I know nothing about) is not the only vendor copying the Cisco interface. Check out Avici (www.avici.com) or even the free software Zebra (www.zebra.org). Wow I checked out the link to Avici

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-27 Thread Paul Borghese
not a laywer, but I play one on GroupStudy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment

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2002-07-27 Thread Tom Lisa
PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
In the past, Cisco has either licensed the IOS to port onto other vendors' hardware (e.g., DEC), or has provided OEM router boards (Cabletron, Synoptics). Any possibility Huawei is doing this will the full cooperation of Cisco, without it being publicized? Message Posted at:

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-27 Thread Chuck
anyone know where Cisco manufactures it's products now? BTW, apparently the Huawei products are available in the US. Someone we all know and love tells me he is trying to get his hands on some. I've been looking forward to one of NRF's economics lessons to come out of this thread. This one, I

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-27 Thread Larry Letterman
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] anyone know where Cisco manufactures it's products now? BTW, apparently the Huawei products

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Fraasch James
This is not the first time I have seen this happen. A bit over a year ago I did some training on RiverDelta, now part of Motorola, (cable modem UBRs like the Cisco 7246's) equipment and they had the exact IOS on their UBRs as Cisco did on theirs. From the training it looked like they had only a

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
to comply. Especially if the Chinese gov is involved in the project. This will eventually drive down prices of Cisco equipment either way. So it is a win win. - Original Message - From: Craig Columbus To: Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread John Neiberger
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of supernet Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] I think it would be hard to prove that they copied Cisco product. Otherwise, we can also say AMD copied Intel

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread YASSER ALY
Hi Group, Regardless whether Huawei reverse-engineered Cisco products or not. Regardless the fact that their OS almost match with Cisco and they offer platforms with almost same conventions and even introducing same certifications to gain credability for them. I believe it's Cisco's concern

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Ron Tan
Hi group, Huawei routers were introduced into the local market sometime in the past 2 months in an asian networking exhibition called Communicasia. That's where I met the Huawei distributor whom had volunteered to provide a demo set for me to play with (myself from an international mnc, has

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Tom Scott
Craig Columbus wrote: Am I the only one who finds it troubling that this company has, apparently, copied Cisco's proprietary designs and is selling them as their own? Your concerns are reasonable, however, cisco is big, they're majorly profitable, and they have access to the best lawyers

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Alex Lei
Groupstudy, I'd be very very surprised if Huawei violated Cisco's rights, simply because Huawei is the largest networking gear company in China, if they did anything suspicious, Cisco would surely find them. From what I know, Huawei is a pretty ethical company for a multi national corporation,

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2002-07-26 Thread Stull, Cory
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Groupstudy, I'd be very very surprised if Huawei violated Cisco's rights, simply because Huawei is the largest networking gear company in China, if they did anything suspicious, Cisco would surely find them. From what I know, Huawei

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Craig Columbus
Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only responding to the information presented in these posts. I've been, so far, unable to verify the information presented for myself. If I'm mistaken, and the

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread supernet
:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only responding to the information presented in these posts. I've been, so far

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Jeffrey Reed
717-737-8586 FAX 717-737-0290 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Erich Kuehn
- From: Craig Columbus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm

RE: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Craig Columbus
-Original Message- From: Craig Columbus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard

Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]

2002-07-26 Thread Chuck
wonder if this helps explain why Cisco's stock tanked recently, and is now around 11 bucks? much as I'd like to see prices plummet - I lose a good bit of business to non Cisco solutions these days, with customers watching their dollars - the spillover here in California would not be pretty, and