This is not the first time I have seen this happen. A bit over a year ago I
did some training on RiverDelta, now part of Motorola, (cable modem UBRs
like the Cisco 7246's) equipment and they had the exact IOS on their UBRs as
Cisco did on theirs. From the training it looked like they had only a
comply. Especially if the Chinese gov is involved in the project. This will
eventually drive down prices of Cisco equipment either way. So it is a win
win.
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Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. fut
ve taken Huawei
to
court by now)
Regards,
Kent
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supernet
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I think it would be hard to prove
Hi Group,
Regardless whether Huawei reverse-engineered Cisco products or not.
Regardless the fact that their OS almost match with Cisco and they offer
platforms with almost same conventions and even introducing same
certifications to gain credability for them.
I believe it's Cisco's concern mo
Hi group,
Huawei routers were introduced into the local market sometime in the past 2
months in an asian networking exhibition called "Communicasia".
That's where I met the Huawei distributor whom had volunteered to provide a
demo set for me to play with (myself from an international mnc, has cu
Craig Columbus wrote:
> Am I the only one who finds it troubling that this company has,
apparently,
> copied Cisco's proprietary designs and is selling them as their own?
Your concerns are reasonable, however, cisco is big, they're majorly
profitable, and they have access to the best lawyers mo
Groupstudy,
I'd be very very surprised if Huawei violated Cisco's rights, simply because
Huawei is the largest networking gear company in China, if they did anything
suspicious, Cisco would surely find them. From what I know, Huawei is a
pretty ethical company for a multi national corporation, an
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Groupstudy,
I'd be very very surprised if Huawei violated Cisco's rights, simply because
Huawei is the largest networking gear company in China, if they did anything
suspicious, Cisco would surely find them. From what I kn
Just thought I'd comment on this
Let me issue a disclaimer first:
I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only responding
to the information presented in these posts. I've been, so far, unable to
verify the information presented for myself. If I'm mistaken, and the
prod
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Just thought I'd comment on this
Let me issue a disclaimer first:
I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only
responding
to the information presented in these posts. I&
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Just thought I'd
ssage-
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Just thought I'd comment on this
Let me issue a disclaimer first:
I've never heard of these routers until th
to
>offer this to their customers. I will be getting a demo unit soon and would
>love to share my experience with the group.
>
>Erich
>
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wonder if this helps explain why Cisco's stock tanked recently, and is now
around 11 bucks?
much as I'd like to see prices plummet - I lose a good bit of business to
non Cisco solutions these days, with customers watching their dollars - the
spillover here in California would not be pretty, and t
not a laywer, but I play one on GroupStudy.
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Just thought I'd comme
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Just thought I'd comment on this
Let me issue a disclaimer first:
I've never heard of these routers until th
In the past, Cisco has either licensed the IOS to port onto other
vendors' hardware (e.g., DEC), or has provided OEM router boards
(Cabletron, Synoptics). Any possibility Huawei is doing this will
the full cooperation of Cisco, without it being publicized?
Message Posted at:
http://www.gro
anyone know where Cisco manufactures it's products now?
BTW, apparently the Huawei products are available in the US. Someone we all
know and love tells me he is trying to get his hands on some.
I've been looking forward to one of NRF's economics lessons to come out of
this thread. This one, I su
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Chuck
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anyone know where Cisco manufactures it's products now?
BTW, apparently the Huawei product
"Paul Borghese" wrote in message
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> Futurewei (of whom I know nothing about) is not the only vendor copying
> the Cisco interface. Check out Avici (www.avici.com) or even the free
> software Zebra (www.zebra.org).
Wow I checked out the link to Avi
Well, AMD actually co-developed CPUs with Intel, so they would have no need
to copy. And (sorry Priscilla, this isn't meant for you), but when will
people get it through their head that Microsoft DID NOT COPY Apple. That
implies Apple was the first computer to use a mouse and GUI, which is
defin
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