RE: how to use router static [7:73799]

2003-08-14 Thread Kennith
revalent to IOS ver? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73852t=73799 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:

Re: When to use BGP Was: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-23 Thread MADMAN
Were the two T1's terminating at two differant ISP's? If so BGP would be appropriate. If you have 2 T1's terminating at a single ISP in the same POP then no. What would you do if they had been terminating at a single ISP in the same POP? Or did you mean same router? Most likely

Re: When to use BGP Was: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-23 Thread Zsombor Papp
Thanks, I appreciate your comments. Zsombor At 01:36 PM 6/23/2003 -0500, MADMAN wrote: Were the two T1's terminating at two differant ISP's? If so BGP would be appropriate. If you have 2 T1's terminating at a single ISP in the same POP then no. What would you do if they had been

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55586]

2003-01-13 Thread Amar
one of many reasons that they use private addressing. Priscilla -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 14/10/2002 2:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55522] bergenpeak

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55695]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
.net Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55457] (Mar 4, 9:46am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: bergenpeak , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55457] Cc: On Mar 4, 9:46am, bergenpeak

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55699]

2002-10-16 Thread bergenpeak
interfaces in some versions of the 12.1 code train. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087aeb.html#76875 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote: .net Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55457] (Mar 4

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55625]

2002-10-15 Thread bergenpeak
Lets make this discussion real. What major ISPs actually use 1918 addresses on their physical interfaces? I know ATT (7018) does not. nrf wrote: Symon Thurlow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, I would view an ISP who uses 1918 addresses in their

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55630]

2002-10-15 Thread nrf
Why, the biggest one of all - Worldcom. bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Lets make this discussion real. What major ISPs actually use 1918 addresses on their physical interfaces? I know ATT (7018) does not. nrf wrote: Symon Thurlow wrote

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55638]

2002-10-15 Thread nrf
Actually, now that I think about it, ATT also used to use a few RFC1918 addresses on their public Internet space as well, I think in Asia somewhere (Japan?). But they might not do that anymore. bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Lets make this

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55586]

2002-10-14 Thread Symon Thurlow
PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55522] bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... One drawback with 1918 addresses on intermediate physical in

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55586]

2002-10-14 Thread Frank Merrill
Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 14/10/2002 2:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55522] bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55458]

2002-10-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
B.J. Wilson wrote: Apply logic, not rules. Priscilla, how would you like a very high management position at EDS? Your philosophy would be a breath of much-needed fresh air... ;-) I would like that. My geeky husband pointed out that my statement better not be a rule. If it is, then it

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55586]

2002-10-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55522] bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... One drawback with 1918 addresses on inte

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55593]

2002-10-14 Thread nrf
Symon Thurlow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, I would view an ISP who uses 1918 addresses in their public network a little warily. Traceroute etc are pretty fundamental problem solving tools IMHO Well then I suppose that means you would be suspicious of

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55503]

2002-10-13 Thread nrf
... Yes but then you lose troubleshooting capabilities etc. -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 October 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55480] Or even better, just use unnumbered in

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55513]

2002-10-13 Thread bergenpeak
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 October 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55480] Or even better, just use unnumbered interfaces. Bolton, Travis D [LTD] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55458]

2002-10-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
bbfaye wrote: That's what I confusing. if I use /31s to the link address, it seems there's no address for network address and broadcast address in this subnet. How could it work? It's only used on point-to-point links. There's no need for a broadcast address. If you want to send to

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 r [7:55458]

2002-10-13 Thread B.J. Wilson
Apply logic, not rules. Priscilla, how would you like a very high management position at EDS? Your philosophy would be a breath of much-needed fresh air... ;-) BJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55521t=55458

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55522]

2002-10-13 Thread nrf
message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Yes but then you lose troubleshooting capabilities etc. -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 October 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link b

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55485]

2002-10-13 Thread Symon Thurlow
Yes but then you lose troubleshooting capabilities etc. -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:noglikirf;hotmail.com] Sent: 13 October 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55480] Or even better, just use unnumbered

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55454]

2002-10-12 Thread Symon Thurlow
Well, if you work it out: Obviously the first three octets wil be all 1's, so if you look at the last octet: 1110 Which = 254. This only leaves you with 2 addresses per subnet, and since you need one address for the Network address and one for the Broadcast address, you no longer have any

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55457]

2002-10-12 Thread bergenpeak
/31s are supported on FE and GE link types (as well as POS, etc.) However, cisco backed out support in some early versions of the 12.1 code train (ie it worked in some versions of 12.0, didn't work in some 12.1, and now appears to work again). RFC 3021 provides details. bbfaye wrote: I

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55458]

2002-10-12 Thread bbfaye
That's what I confusing. if I use /31s to the link address, it seems there's no address for network address and broadcast address in this subnet. How could it work? at 12 Oct 2002 15:10:36 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bergenpeak) wrote: -- /31s are supported on FE and GE link types (as well as

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55459]

2002-10-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 1:53 PM + 10/12/02, bbfaye wrote: I used thought it shoul be /30 mask subnet... but recently I saw some guy said: use /31 subnet to save the address I really confusing me... Some newer IOS releases support /31 for point-to-point media. There is an RFC describing the practice.

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55460]

2002-10-12 Thread Bob McWhorter
Symon, Reference RFC 3021 Using 31-Bit Prefixes on IPv4 Point-to-Point Links HTH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Symon Thurlow Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: can I use a /31 subnet

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55461]

2002-10-12 Thread Bob McWhorter
address 145.10.70.2 255.255.255.254 no ip directed-broadcast ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of bbfaye Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55469]

2002-10-12 Thread Symon Thurlow
Thanks! I stand corrected. Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From: Bob McWhorter [mailto:bob;oregontrail.net] Sent: 12 October 2002 17:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55460] Symon, Reference RFC 3021 Using 31-Bit

RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55479]

2002-10-12 Thread Bolton, Travis D [LTD]
use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55469] Thanks! I stand corrected. Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From: Bob McWhorter [mailto:bob;oregontrail.net] Sent: 12 October 2002 17:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55480]

2002-10-12 Thread nrf
Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:sthurlow;webvein.com] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55469] Thanks! I stand corrected. Cheers, Symon -Original Message- From: Bob

RE: How to use SNMP to get network utilization of Fast [7:51885]

2002-08-22 Thread 416South
If i'm reading your situation correctly you should be able to poll all information. I'm not sure if each VLAN has an assigned IP address as in MLS. If so I believe you should be able to poll each IP segment. dovelet wrote: Hi all, I just setup vlan trunk at a fastethernet port of a Cisco

Re: How to use tftp server?? [7:49651]

2002-07-25 Thread YASSER ALY
boot system tftp Hi Group, Can anyone please explain to me what command syntax to boot up a router using TFTP stftp c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1erver? I can do a copy tftp flash, but when I tried to set up a boot system, it keeps on failing to boot... Is this correct?? boot system

Re: How to use tftp server?? [7:49651]

2002-07-25 Thread Chuck
Hunt Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Group, Can anyone please explain to me what command syntax to boot up a router using TFTP stftp c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1erver? I can do a copy tftp flash, but when I tried to set up a boot system, it keeps on

RE: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818]

2002-03-11 Thread Jeffrey Hall
I am preparing for my BCMSN exam on Wednesday. I have been using both Todd Lammle's CCNP Switching Guide and the Cisco Lan Switching Book. I've also been using the Boson practice exams. I've found Todd Lammle's book to be especially good and a good compliment to the Lan Switching book as it

Re: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818]

2002-03-11 Thread dr_sukhi
Shivjit Ji, Cisco Press books are the best for the preparation of Cisco exams. Out of these, the text books are always better than the Exam Preparation Guides. CCNP preparation guide consists of Exam Guides only and hence are not better that individual BCMSN and BCRAN books. After completing

RE: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818]

2002-03-10 Thread s vermill
The libraries contain the exact books that you would buy individually (BSCN BCMSN BCRAN CIT). It is just a marketing thing - one that will save you lots of money. However, BSCN is the only one of any of the CCNP course books that has labs to follow. Too bad. Shivjit Patil wrote: Hi..I

Re: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818]

2002-03-10 Thread Cebuano
Guides than the official course/curriculum, in particular Remote Access. Good Luck. Elmer - Original Message - From: s vermill To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:36 PM Subject: RE: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818] The libraries contain the exact books that you would buy

Re: books to use to study for CCNP exam [7:37818]

2002-03-10 Thread Kenneth
I personally used BCMSN and Cisco LAN Switching, the latter is a really really really really good book! Shivjit Patil wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi..I have just finished my BSCN examinations. I used the Cisco BSCN book for the examination. I found that book

RE: router to use as frame relay switch [7:32348]

2002-01-17 Thread 416South
Well you need 2 routers with WIC cards then all you have to do is configure it as a clockswitch. this url shows as a back to back config but it should give you a good idea of what's involved. You need 2 routers if you plan on doing this at home. 1 as the Data clock and the other the Data

Re: router to use as frame relay switch [7:32348]

2002-01-17 Thread John Neiberger
Any 2600 with serial ports can act as a frame relay switch. Go to www.cisco.com and search for 'configuring frame relay switching' and you'll find all the configuration details. HTH, John sam sneed 1/17/02 1:55:40 PM I here there is a Cisco 2600 series router that can be used to simulate a

RE: router to use as frame relay switch [7:32348]

2002-01-17 Thread Lupi, Guy
Here is a snapshot of a 2600 running as a frame switch, you can do this with pretty much any router with multiple serial interfaces. Go to www.fatkid.com, they have some sample configs for frame relay switching on a router. You can also do a lookup on CCO for it. If you have trouble let us

Re: Can I use the xmodem -s 38400 in Cat6K [7:27936]

2001-12-03 Thread Patrick Ramsey
If I remember correctly, the last time I had to do this with a 6509 I used 115200 and it worked fine. -Patrick guest 2001 12/01/01 09:29PM I found a doc about howto use xmodem to recover the image of cat50004000,it says you can use the xmodem -s 38400 to download via console.And I also found

RE: how to use end-to-end keepalive feature? [7:23832]

2001-10-23 Thread JffryH(Yahoo)
If your FR cross several hops, that's in control of service provider and may be you never know, you will need this to know what really the state of PVC. Some backup strategies like backup interface, are based on the state of interface to determine path selection. Routing may have their mechanism

Re: How to use a BB [7:15553]

2001-08-09 Thread Gareth Hinton
I think you're missing something technically. I've also been missing it for a good few months now. Some changes were carried out a while back, and since that day, this newsgroup's threads are never formed properly, messages marked as read do not work, etc, etc. If I'd just visited the group I'd

Re: How to use a BB [7:15553]

2001-08-09 Thread Gareth Hinton
Meant to say Messages Marked as Watched messages dont work The rest stands Gareth Hinton wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think you're missing something technically. I've also been missing it for a good few months now. Some changes were carried out a while

Re: I can't use dialer 1 int to connect internet [7:9662]

2001-06-25 Thread SilCam
you also need to configure no ip address under the BRI interface. Brian Dennis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Try using dialer pool 1 under the dialer interface and dialer pool-member 1 under the BRI interface(s). Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI

Re: Subject: RE: Use of terminal server in home lab [7:9686]

2001-06-25 Thread Paul Werner
If you are looking for the capability to physically power off the routers remotely *and* use the terminal server, you may want to investigate the use of an APC power switch. They regularly sell on Ebay for under $300. HTH, Paul Werner The only thing that you can NOT do with the

RE: I can't use dialer 1 int to connect internet [7:9662]

2001-06-25 Thread Brian Dennis
]]On Behalf Of SilCam Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I can't use dialer 1 int to connect internet [7:9662] you also need to configure no ip address under the BRI interface. Brian Dennis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

RE: I can't use dialer 1 int to connect internet [7:9662]

2001-06-23 Thread Brian Dennis
Try using dialer pool 1 under the dialer interface and dialer pool-member 1 under the BRI interface(s). Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 5G Networks, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of hwen

RE: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-19 Thread Dwayne Saunders
I am using a FE module out of a 2621 on a 2610 with no problems even though Cisco config tools says you can't D'Wayne Saunders Senior MIS Operator -Original Message- From: mondo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2001 15:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can I use

Re: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-19 Thread Vincent Chong
Yes, you can. But there is a case, ISL Trunking will not functon properly. I do not know other feature will perform properly or not. May be the new release of IOS will tackle this problem. Just like wic-2T will not work for Cisco 3600 in 11.xx series, now it work fine in 12.x.x series. HTH

Re: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-19 Thread Rashid Lohiya
Appreciate your answers guys, even though some were conflicting. It seems officially I am unable to do this, but some people have tried and it seems to work for them. Well here goes ! Regards Rashid Rashid Lohiya wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have been told

RE: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-18 Thread William E. Gragido
www.cisco.com Check out the products and applicable cards. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rashid Lohiya Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040] I have been told by a friend that

Re: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-18 Thread Circusnuts
I don't believe you can use FA's. http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Hardware:2600s=Hard ware_Info#Modules Phil - Original Message - From: Rashid Lohiya To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040] I have been told by a friend

Re: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-18 Thread John Neiberger
Watch the line wrap. According to that page there is no 10/100 Network Module available for the 2600 series. The Fast Ethernet Network Modules are available for the 3600 series. If you want Fast Ethernet in the 2600 series you need to have a 2620 or 2621. HTH, John Rashid Lohiya 5/18/01

RE: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-18 Thread Rizzo Damian
As you'll find out, there is no 10/100 network module for the 2600 series router. If you want a 10/100 capable router, you'll need a 2620, 2621, 2650 or 2651 router. -Rizzo -Original Message- From: Rashid Lohiya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:32 PM To:

Re: Can I use FE in 2610 [7:5040]

2001-05-18 Thread mondo
I tried using Cisco's configurator tool and it does not list any 10/100 add on modules with a 2610. They are on the 2620s and up though. Hope this helps. Rashid Lohiya wrote in message ... I have been told by a friend that I cannot use a FE 10/100 network module in my Cisco 2610. Can someone

Re: Can I use sniffer pro to simulate an IPX server in my network?

2001-04-09 Thread Javier Contreras
Hi Well, don4t know with sniffer, but you can do it with your router directly: ipx sap 4 fs2 3BBB... 451 1 4 is type, fs2 is server name Regards Vincent wrote: Hi; To all sniffer expert, I would like to simulate IPX traffic in my pc, so I can pratice IPX acces-list in

Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?

2001-01-31 Thread netlinesys
Hello there, I think BCRAN and CIT are ok . for BCSN you need to have the knowledge of ACRC ( check the exam outlines to know what to read from this book ) you need know BGP . for BCMSN you need to have the knowledge of CLSC ( check the exam outlines to know what to read from this book )

Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?

2001-01-31 Thread Traceroute
I would think they would be valuable for the basics but check the objectives for the new exams and get the proper materials for those new objectives not covered in 1.0. This method could save you some $... - Original Message - From: "Alec Smiths" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Can 2523 use the same IOS as 2501

2000-11-22 Thread Chuck Larrieu
According to the Cisco upgrade planner yes all IOS images for the 2500 series will work on the 2501 through 2525 Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of michael Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Can 2523 use the same IOS as 2501

2000-11-22 Thread michael
Chuck,thank you very much!!! On 22 Nov 2000 20:12:21 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Chuck Larrieu") wrote: According to the Cisco upgrade planner yes all IOS images for the 2500 series will work on the 2501 through 2525 Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-19 Thread arthurx4
Jack From what I remember - SNAP and VC-Mux are two differnet encapsulations for layer 3 protocols over ATM. I think VC-mux only allows one protocol/vc while SNAP (because of the additional header) allows multiple layer 3 protocols/vc of course at an additional cost of the SNAP header which I

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-18 Thread Jack Walker
Hi Group, Could you please light me up on the following comments: "OSPF allows use of ATM VCmux encapsulation (so TCP acks fit in one ATM cell); IS-IS requires ATM SNAP encapsulation, forcing two-cell TCP acks (but Henk Smit's NLPID hack fixes this)." I have no clue what this means, please

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-17 Thread Brian Lodwick
with Europe. Brian Go Alternet! From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IS-IS use?? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:59:01 -0500 "William Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, IS-IS

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-17 Thread Russ Meyer
s very cool to learn this information from someone with such a wealth of experience! I did not realize the difficulties we ran into with Europe. Brian Go Alternet! From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-17 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Don't get me wrong. There are definite times to use ISIS, there are definite times to use OSPF, and there are times either will work just fine. Russ Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote IS-IS is considered more stable because you can manually set the refresh time as far out as 18 + hours. This is

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread McCallum, Robert
Chuck, come on IS-IS is an "OPEN" standard. I am the total opposite to you as to say I have no been without it in 2 companies that I have worked for. As for when you should use it - to be honest I am hearing of more and more businesses using it as people are starting to "think" that IS-IS is

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Spolidoro, Guilherme
on that? Guilherme -Original Message- From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:03 AM To: 'Chuck Church'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: IS-IS use?? Chuck, come on IS-IS is an "OPEN" standard. I am the total opposite to you as to say I ha

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Peter Van Oene
IS-IS is used by a large percentage of 1st tier internet backbone providers. From what I understand, it was chosen not for technical superiority over OSPF, but becuase cisco's IS-IS code was more stable at the time. At present, IS-IS maintains a couple advantages over OSPF in the ISP world.

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Jack Walker
makes easier to find people to implement/support it Any inputs on that? Guilherme -Original Message- From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:03 AM To: 'Chuck Church'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: IS-IS use?? Chuck, come on IS-

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Tom Holbrook
From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:03 AM To: 'Chuck Church'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: IS-IS use?? Chuck, come on IS-IS is an "OPEN" standard. I am the total opposite to you as to say I have no been without it in 2

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 09:38 AM 11/16/00, Spolidoro, Guilherme wrote: UUNet for example uses IS-IS on their core while the rest (or the majority) of the ISPs use OSPF. I wonder why UUNet chosed for IS-IS instead of OSPF. Maybe somebody on the list has an answer? Today I would chose OSPF over IS-IS because: - much

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Rik Guyler
Well, I believe that Cisco's take on this is that OSPF does not scale as well for very large networks as does IS-IS. At least so sayeth an instructor SE that I happen to know. Rik -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 1:20 PM Subject: RE

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread William Gragido
of the US Government(ie Military), to accomadate its World Wide network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rik Guyler Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:50 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: IS-IS use?? Well, I believe that Cisco's take

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Jack Walker
I am not familiar with the ISP enviroment at all. When we say UUNet uses IS-IS on their core, do we mean that they redistribute their BGP routes from their edge routers into IS-IS and redistribute back into BGP and the far end edge routers? Which means the edge routers are running BGP to learn

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Rik Guyler
(CCIE 3xxx or so) agrees with. I know absolutely nothing about IS-IS, so this is not my opinion, only a repeat from those that know much more than me! ;-} Rik -Original Message- From: William Gragido To: 'Rik Guyler'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 5:38 PM Subject: RE: IS-IS use

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Spolidoro, Guilherme
use ATM would also use ATM to load balance traffic between links, etc. Does it help? :-) Guilherme -Original Message- From: Jack Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IS-IS use?? I am not familiar with the ISP

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Chuck, I think this is a good question. I always looked for comparisons between IS-IS and OSPF and never really could find any good source (I mean, Doyle describe both protocols very well, but that's not what I'm looking for, I'm looking for large implementation descriptions, explaining

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Jack Walker wrote, Sorry for jumping into this. I think I agree with Bob that IS-IS is more like something a service provider should consider. OSPF is sufficient for enterprise network, at least I think so, just imagine a network with 3000 or more routers, how could we design a OSPF

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 09:38 AM 11/16/00, Spolidoro, Guilherme wrote: UUNet for example uses IS-IS on their core while the rest (or the majority) of the ISPs use OSPF. I wonder why UUNet chosed for IS-IS instead of OSPF. Maybe somebody on the list has an answer? Today I would chose OSPF over IS-IS because: - much

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Well, I believe that Cisco's take on this is that OSPF does not scale as well for very large networks as does IS-IS. At least so sayeth an instructor SE that I happen to know. Rik It depends on how you define "large." Neither will handle extremely large networks. Truly large networks use

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Peter Van Oene
the aforementioned SE (CCIE 3xxx or so) agrees with. I know absolutely nothing about IS-IS, so this is not my opinion, only a repeat from those that know much more than me! ;-} Rik -Original Message- From: William Gragido To: 'Rik Guyler'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 5:38 PM Subject: RE: IS-IS use

Re: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Peter Van Oene
ISP's use IGP's (be they OSPF or IS-IS) for internal reachability (IBGP peering is generally done on loopbacks and these networks need to be advertised) and for next hop resolution. Hence, all the perimeter BGP next hops will be advertised into the IGP so that all IBGP speakers can properly

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
"William Gragido" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, IS-IS is most definetly still alive and kicking. The US military utilizes it, and it works very well. OSPF is a different animal, and Rik, I would disagree with your statement as to its scalability. IS-IS was designed to provide complete non-vendor

RE: IS-IS use??

2000-11-16 Thread Driessens.Hans
: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 16 november 2000 23:58 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: IS-IS use?? ISP's use IGP's (be they OSPF or IS-IS) for internal reachability (IBGP peering is generally done on loopbacks and these networks need to be advertised

Re: IS-IS use?? [gets O-T]

2000-11-16 Thread Marty Adkins
"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: The direct ancestor of IS-IS is DECnet Phase IV routing, principally designed by Radia Perlman. DEC contributed its work to ISO, and IS-IS was initially developed as a pure OSI routing protocol (i.e., for CLNP). IS-IS became the native IGP for DECnet Phase V,

RE: How to use mzmaker

2000-08-17 Thread Timmons, Robert
Yes. When the router reboots, it will load and uncompress the image. I don't know if the filename matters, but I used .MZ The first time I tried it, it failed for some reason. It's worked each time I tried since. The file might have been corrupted the first time, or the compression failed or

Re: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-16 Thread bellis
A calculator??? For the CCNA test??? For what??? -B ""Pichi"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8nbm3s$iul$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nbm3s$iul$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am taking the CCNA this afternoon and I would like to know if we are able to use the calculator?? Pedro

RE: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Silly - for counting how many questions there are, and calculating the passing score! :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re

RE: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread Marshal Schoener
NOPE! Sorry :-) -Original Message- From: Pichi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can you use the calculator in tests? I am taking the CCNA this afternoon and I would like to know if we are able to use the calculator??

RE: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread Jorge Rodriguez
Probably no, because subneting questions really does not involve complex calculations. You are only aloud a pen and peace of paper. You can write anything on that paper before starting the test, if subneting is your concern I advice you to write all important aspects of subneting/chart and OSI,

RE: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread Chuck Larrieu
] Subject:RE: Can you use the calculator in tests? Probably no, because subneting questions really does not involve complex calculations. You are only aloud a pen and peace of paper. You can write anything on that paper before starting the test, if subneting is your concern I advice you

Re: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread David Ristau
no calculator. here is how I remembered 2^n-2 for class c 2 6 14 30 62 62 30 14 6 2 one is backwards, one is forwards, top is # of subnets bottom is number of hosts class B is the same just in powers of 2 to 16384(-2) for the subnets and the reverse 16384 to 2 for the hosts if you know

Re: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread Kevin Wigle
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jorge Rodriguez" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Pichi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 15, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: RE: Can you use the calculator in tests? Just so everyone knows, the last three times I have tested, I was presented with a useles

RE: Can you use the calculator in tests?

2000-08-15 Thread Chuck Larrieu
, 2000 10:30 AM To: Chuck Larrieu; Jorge Rodriguez; Pichi; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Can you use the calculator in tests? no wonder you get higher scores than me!!! :-) Seriously though, they gave you a "physical" four banger calculator?? doesn't happen in my normal tes

Re: May I use your on-line routers...?

2000-08-09 Thread Israr Akram
Hi thanks for the website it great, one question non of the interface have ip address, which why they are down..how do know what ip addresses to assign? "Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here is the site and it's still free

Re: May I use your on-line routers...?

2000-08-09 Thread Billy Monroe
st 08, 2000 11:29 PM Subject: Re: May I use your on-line routers...? Here is the site and it's still free http://www.r1r2.com/ Now what you need to do before telneting on is go to the site and get the instructions. Billy Monroe wrote: Hello: I need to practice urgently BGP, OSP